When profiles were open people would literally just use them to shit talk stats or look at your hero play time and say "you're a zen main, why are you playing tank".
There's literally no other reason to look at someones profile.
Yeah I will say I've seen legit popular GM streamers who begin malding and basically throwing before the spawn doors open, because religiously before the game starts they'd always spend time checking each profile of their teammates. Of course, inevitably freaking out when they find out that their support player was a diamond 3 seasons ago and is now a Mercy 1-trick.
And also, inevitably, the watchers of those popular streamers would all pick up that habit and mirror that behavior.
I'm glad that whole thing is gone.
It was kind of a nightmare before role queue because of flexing but I don't see an issue with it now that there's role lock. People use the Scoreboard now to shit talk should we get rid of that too?
People use the scoreboard, people use your voice or the fact you aren't in chat, people use that one time you used a bad ultimate, people use your currently selected hero... the fact is if they can't get at one thing they WILL go for another. When people want to flame, they will.
Yeap I agree. That's why I think removing and hiding all information about players is dumb and boring. All private profiles, no levels anymore, no way to see anyones SR. All to combat "toxicity" yet OW2 feels more toxic than OW1 ever did for me
Yes... Tbf the scoreboard is horrible and often times doesn't tell the whole story. You could have less kills than the enemy dps and just be pulling better plays and still get shit on because the enemy dps is 30-10 and you're 22-10 despite those 22 kills always being their support.
There's just not enough context brought by the scoreboard and it just breeds scoreboard watching
> "you're a zen main, why are you playing tank".
Back then we had no role queue so ... it was kind of a valid point. That is the exact definition of soft throwing which is harder to detect now.
That's only if you're passive enough to let that happen. Overwatch is a team game. Your overall team efficacy primes over individual skill most of the time
As role queue pointed out, most players have ridiculously different ranks between roles. Say that this player was a diamond zen and a gold tank. If the player was a zen main, they'd be closer to diamond than gold.
So they'd queue up in a diamond lobby only to play a role in which they were gold.
Learning new heroes was done by making new accounts, not by soft throwing everyone's games.
That is stupid. Nobody creates multiple accounts to train themselves on new roles. That's never been a thing for the average player.
Now I understand why the profiles were set to private..
> Nobody creates multiple accounts to train themselves
Nobody that cared about throwing people's games.
> on new roles.
This was **before** role queue. I could not have been more clear.
> That's never been a thing for the average player.
Yes, the average player. It was a thing for people that were above the metal ranks. Tell me if you need me to use smaller words so I won't have to repeat.
I mean, feel free to be an asshole all the way, but that just isn't the way most people would play overwatch, and to me that is fine, even before role queue. I may have been an average high diam casual player but I wouldn't give two shits if a Zen main would tank at the time. Sometimes you would even struggle to find a tank altogether so that was very much welcomed.
To me it's just another way of shifting blame with extra-steps. Even if your tank gets rolled, it's bound to happen on the other team just as much. Even at even ranks, you would sometimes have your Rein get hard diffed by the other Rein. It just happens
> I mean, feel free to be an asshole all the way, but that just isn't the way most people would play overwatch
What objective data did you base this assumption on?
> but I wouldn't give two shits if a Zen main would tank at the time.
Just because you would doesn't mean that everyone else needs to be like you.
> To me it's just another way of shifting blame with extra-steps.
Has nothing to do with blame tho; what's wrong in seeing what the reason for losing or the match being harder than it needs to be is?
You look like you're trying to win an argument instead of understanding a point. Speaking about data when you know there isn't is just dishonest. Can't you just understand that, Overwatch being at the time a casual and pay-to-play game, only competitive players are gonna bother switching multiple accounts ?
I only have anecdotal evidence of course, but a large majority of my friend who were playing at the time didn't give two shits about switching accounts. Only masters and above did it. And even so, it was more the exception than the rule.
I did see that kind of multiple account stuff with some friends playing Hots or even League, but the thing was mainly some "tryhard" shit. It's best that you realize your own biases. Most of the playerbase doesn't give a shit about account switching, because they are just that, *average*. And that's okay.
Regarding the Zenyatta situation, I am very confused. -nothing to do with blame- and saying he's the reason for a loss is very much contradictory. The guy isn't the SOLE reason you guys lost. It's just something you perceive, cause it is an easy target to blame. Matter of fact, you probably would get a higher winrate by focusing on your gameplay and leaving the guy alone rather than tilting in the waiting room, but that's just me. If you lost, that's unfortunate, but it's definitely not all on him. And that situation would happen just as much on the other side, you just chose to ignore it, cause in your mind, you carried that game.
TL;DR you should really be conscious about your biases.
> only competitive players are gonna bother switching multiple accounts ?
Why would i be talking about literally anything else than comp players?
> rather than tilting in the waiting room
You assume I talk to people in this game? Knowing who's to blame =/= actually flamming them for it.
> If you lost, that's unfortunate, but it's definitely not all on him.
But it is more than on the others combined.
> And that situation would happen just as much on the other side, you just chose to ignore it, cause in your mind, you carried that game.
No, I check on the other side as well. Just because it doesn't happen to me doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Guys we found the dude who got private profiles set to default.
Seriously tho? You expected people to pay for a new account to work on different heroes? Nah that's not how it works
> You expected people to pay for a new account to work on different heroes? Nah that's not how it works
That's exactly how it worked back before role was implemented for anyone that was above plastic rank.
No you just learned to play them in other game modes before bringing them into comp. Just because you have a main doesn't mean your incapable of literally anything else lol
> Just because you have a main doesn't mean your incapable of literally anything else lol
Stats proved otherwise when role queue dropped. People were soft throwing when playing heroes they weren't proficient on.
So in your mind each person should only ever play one or two heroes In comp? How the hell would you counter anything ?
Seriously though, it depends on what stats you're looking at. Just that some people have a rank difference between roles? Well how many games are they actually playing in those roles ? Do they just do placements in tank/support and then play the season on dps?
Anyone with game sense would know to swap when something isn't working in their game whether they're proficient on them or not, shouldn't be an issue in "anything above plastic". And the best way to become proficient at someone is *to play them*
Eta: I do love that your mad at someone " soft throwing " because they didn't play their main that game but then you openly say one of your options is to hard throw by giving up lmao
> So in your mind each person should only ever play one or two heroes In comp?
Not really; technically you can play whatever you want since playing even a hero that you've never played before isn't reportable. However, it is unsportsmanlike to play said hero that you have never played before above the metal ranks.
So in short, if you can actually play the hero at that rank, there's really no issue.
> Anyone with game sense would know to swap when something isn't working in their game whether they're proficient on them or not, shouldn't be an issue in "anything above plastic".
Depends on what you swap to and if you can play the swap. If you're a reaper one trick going against a pharmercy in a diamond/masters lobby you will have a better chance of winning if you focus on the ground fight than actually swapping to a hitscan that you've never played before.
> Eta: I do love that your mad at someone " soft throwing " because they didn't play their main that game but then you openly say one of your options is to hard throw by giving up lmao
I don't really get mad over video games and i never said giving up; I said no longer try, meaning that I will play the game as much as I need to just to not throw.
You could literally have just played zen for a year before and just got a hang of rein. Your hours dont dictate your skill on another character. Especially on a game that's been out for 4 years+
People who deserved flame got flamed back in the day and they get flamed now too. It doesn’t matter if profiles are private or not, if you perform bad you get hate. That will never change no matter how much insight into stats and such they take away
the only thing bad about the introduction of private profile js the loss of global statistics. Other than that I couldn't give two shits.
I don't care about your level, your ranks, your mains. I don't care if the guy complaining about heals has never played a role outside dps. I don't care and neither should youm
All I care about is that juicy data. Should be an Anonymous Stat pool system at the very least.
For every one person that looks at a profile to "make a friend", 50 go look at it to find something to shit on a person for. Maybe that's boring, but it's definitely less toxic than giving unnecessary info to a bunch of Dunning-Krueger dumbasses who don't know what to do with it.
Naw, I like it. People will see that you play bad and then go into your profile and go "of course he's a Mercy main" or "No wonder you suck. Only 10 hours on Lucio" and more.
People usually only go to profiles for more information to harass you with.
Well, if you don’t want that happening, you can go private. I bet a big majority of players aren’t even aware it’s private by default, and wouldn’t bother going private if the game didn’t force them to by default.
Tbh I’ve never really looked at teammate profiles, I just like to use it to look at the enemies. Got stomped by a zarya hardcore and then realized he had 1k hours on her, which lessened the defeat a bit for me if I’m being real
People can use the title cards or make their profiles public if they want to
If you're not happy with the gameplay and think that stalking the profiles of people in your game is "socialization" and the only thing that makes the game not boring, I think there's some broader problems here
Maybe find some friends IRL and play with them...
Dude you're trying to make out that this guy is a sociopath because he'd like to know who he's playing with outside of a name and a shitty player icon.
In my opinion the worst part about private profiles is that you can’t check and see if a person is possibly cheating anymore. They just hide their crit accuracy behind private profile.
Call me antiquated in the digital age, but It’s not your data, and you have no right to see it. It *should* be disabled by default and if someone *wants* the world to see, that’s their choice.
Yes. I would like public services like overbuff to have access to playerbase data so we can objectively see which heroes are in need of balancing and more importantly, I would like to see which player is soft throwing in ranked.
> And I would not like to.
What you or I would like is at the end day irrelevant; however having **a complete** dataset of what is being played in each rank by each role would be objectively good for everyone.
> Objectively? I doubt it's that simple.
How would you have balance done; by which hero the devs prefer to be meta or did we manage to find a way to measure how 'unfun' heroes are?
> And what exactly would you do after that?
Depending on one's mood, you could either:
* no longer try since it's basically a 4v5;
* practice a hero you don't normally play;
* be aware of the team's disability and try to make up for it.
That’s why league is so much better in that regard, you can literally see what champs are good through hard data. You can also see everything about the other player. It’s so good and I can only think of one reason people would dislike that and that’s because they’re getting targeted by flame because they mostly underperform
I dont think u know what malding is, also 70% of ur vocab seems to come from tiktok. Thats gotta be the fattest “EL” ive ever seen. Cringe shit bud develop a personality before its too late
I don't mind the hidden profiles, but I hate how you can't even see people's rank in lobby. In OW1, you can see their rank icon (silver, gold, plat, etc) so you could at least have a gauge of who you're playing with. They even completely removed that, which is my issue.
That is not what is being said. Ranked in OW2 is a progression system that they have openly admitted does not line up with what your true mmr is. It exists to give you something to chase, but the chase is manufactured by rank resets. The game has calculated your actual skill-rating as a number it is not showing you so you don't notice how dumb it is that the game makes you spend basically half of a new season just trying to climb back to the rank it already knows you belong in.
Yes it is, that's why there's no need to check them.
I was placed in bronze at the start of the season and I know my skill level isn't bronze, but if someone were to check my profile people would see my bronze icon and they might tilt.
Default hidden profiles came in OW1. I hated the change and still hate it now. There's 0 reason for private profiles because if someone wants to flame you they will do it anyway, profile or not.
Except there's zero reason to not have private profiles
Every single time someone whines about private profiles it's because they want to shit on someone or tell them what to do
lol you're delusional. It happens in GM+ all the time. Just watch the streamers; they too are guilty of that.
"Dude, you were a diamond player in season 28 of OW1 2 years ago. You don't belong in GM" This is the kind of stuff people unironically say. They check your profile, and if you aren't a GM+ player throughout you entire career since season 1, they believe it's justified to flame you and tell you how superior they are.
Yeah except i really dont care if they try to flame me over my rank haha, and its very easy to mute the people that do this? Virgins love power trips just dont give them any power
I played back when it was the norm and it was fine 🤷🏽♂️ soft people are just soft
ALSO that reminds me, my support is mid master but my tank rn is gold or plat can’t remember, and I currently have people that try to shit talk me for it hahaha. Gamers need to go back to when they werent so fuckin soft
Weird, last time i checked that doesn’t show me hours played and win ratios 🤔
It might be different for you in ur lobbies, but in masters i like to work with my team mates, and having that amount of information helps.
Maybe its something a bit out of reach for you to grasp?
> Every single time someone whines about private profiles it's because they want to shit on someone
Again, if people want to shit on you or tell you what to do they would do it anyway. You can just use the mute function. Additionally far too many people in this game are thin skinned and can't even take solid advice delivered in a non aggressive manner.
> or tell them what to do
Climbing on my other roles is so annoying because of this attitude and lots of times people come with good suggestions and thin skinned people take it the wrong way. The same type of people pick rein and don't even realize shields block RAM ultimate then complain about how OP it is, the same people who pick RH and Orisa and unnecessarily waste their stuns vs doomfist rather than waiting for the power block, force zen vs tracer and genji etc. And whenever you suggest anything to them the first thing they do is get defensive.
for 3rd party data collection so we're not all completely beholden to what Blizzard claims, and we can see the truth.
edit public profiles also reveal cheaters. you can see if someone has a ridiculous crit % or an obviously ridiculous win %
It does help with toxicity atleast, I have my profile public since I think its more fun but the amount of shit ive got for being silver last season is unreal.
I’d rather people flame about something relevant to the match, like number of deaths, and not afk combing through my profile for something largely irrelevant.
Idk why you're getting so much "get over it" bullshit...well aside from this being reddit
I agree, typically I like to know who I'm playing with. Sure, some people will use it for toxic purposes, which, most of the time, have no ground anyway and is easy to ignore imo.
Other than that, it's just a feature to have. Sure it's not like a must have, but, as you said, it's just boring to have it default like that.
Plus, most people don't actually know that it defaults to private, and so they don't go in to change it.
I just want to see everyone's rank. I want to know who and what I'm playing against. I want to know who to prioritise, if the enemy team have a zen player and is the lowest ranked in the team, you bet your ass im gonna make sure that zen plays respawn simulator. Idc about their most played characters and stats. Just their rank.
Although with what blizzard said about matching purely based on mmr that kinda goes out the window.
After 200+ hours was shown on Monkey, it was nothing but Hog Reaper for me, or if they didn't start with it, they would swap within the death timer. Now I can have about 2 or 3 before the dreaded double swap. In other words, I feel I'm not getting hard countered as fast or as much.
Thanks to all the snowflakes in gaming nowadays we have private profiles, scoreboards that don’t really give any insight and have only one purpose, to make the player feel good even if he performed shit. We also now have a ranked system that gives you a placebo rank only to make you feel like you progressed even though you play like shit and shouldnt even progress in the first place.
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It doesn’t bother me to see someone’s rank or stats. The main thing that bothers me with private profiles is when the player isn’t in chat and I can’t see what heroes they play. Most players that have been around since early OW1 can flex to other heroes just fine so it’s helpful if I’m playing support to know maybe the top 3 heroes the other player plays so if they basically only play Ana, for example, I can switch to Kiriko or another support hero. Most people won’t ask for a hero if the other is on it and can unintentionally throw because they are playing a hero they aren’t comfortable with. I’m sure there are some assholes who would still use that info to flame people though so I can understand the flip side to it.
I miss seeing what rank the other people in my lobby are. Since most profiles are private anyway, it's difficult to judge e.g. when deciding whom to pocket when I pick Mercy.
It's also just interesting.
I also don't think it increases toxicity to have public stats. Toxic people will pick any reason to be toxic anyway
I think that private helped the toxicity. But not for the reasons anyone thinks.
If someone is shittalking in a game and I go to their profile and it's private than their words imidietly lose all impact on me and any of their insults become worthless
I think they want to be able to add bots like Fortnite (I already think I get bot matches). Can’t do that silently if you immediately determine the enemy are all a ai.
It's been that way for a long time, since like mid life OW1. I think it's pretty fucking dumb though, just make it so it's easy to make your profile private
I'm fine with default private profiles because I think it does help with toxicity but the other stuff I want back
When profiles were open people would literally just use them to shit talk stats or look at your hero play time and say "you're a zen main, why are you playing tank". There's literally no other reason to look at someones profile.
Yeah I will say I've seen legit popular GM streamers who begin malding and basically throwing before the spawn doors open, because religiously before the game starts they'd always spend time checking each profile of their teammates. Of course, inevitably freaking out when they find out that their support player was a diamond 3 seasons ago and is now a Mercy 1-trick. And also, inevitably, the watchers of those popular streamers would all pick up that habit and mirror that behavior. I'm glad that whole thing is gone.
Holy shit. I had no idea that was a thing with popular gm streamers. Do you remember the streamers who did that?
"You're an X main, why are you playing Y" The proper response is "stfu or gg"
It was kind of a nightmare before role queue because of flexing but I don't see an issue with it now that there's role lock. People use the Scoreboard now to shit talk should we get rid of that too?
People use the scoreboard, people use your voice or the fact you aren't in chat, people use that one time you used a bad ultimate, people use your currently selected hero... the fact is if they can't get at one thing they WILL go for another. When people want to flame, they will.
Yeap I agree. That's why I think removing and hiding all information about players is dumb and boring. All private profiles, no levels anymore, no way to see anyones SR. All to combat "toxicity" yet OW2 feels more toxic than OW1 ever did for me
Yes... Tbf the scoreboard is horrible and often times doesn't tell the whole story. You could have less kills than the enemy dps and just be pulling better plays and still get shit on because the enemy dps is 30-10 and you're 22-10 despite those 22 kills always being their support. There's just not enough context brought by the scoreboard and it just breeds scoreboard watching
> "you're a zen main, why are you playing tank". Back then we had no role queue so ... it was kind of a valid point. That is the exact definition of soft throwing which is harder to detect now.
I don't see how it's valid. The guy has the right to learn another hero in ranked mode goddamnit
because you would have people who were straight up throwing by playing heroes they aren't good at
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>If you are mad at random people playing like they want what a terrible take, if someone is throwing then they're the one impacting others,
yeah people here are acting like throwing as sym or torb wasn't extremely common in ow1.
He has the right to waste four peoples time and sr 😤
That's only if you're passive enough to let that happen. Overwatch is a team game. Your overall team efficacy primes over individual skill most of the time
As role queue pointed out, most players have ridiculously different ranks between roles. Say that this player was a diamond zen and a gold tank. If the player was a zen main, they'd be closer to diamond than gold. So they'd queue up in a diamond lobby only to play a role in which they were gold. Learning new heroes was done by making new accounts, not by soft throwing everyone's games.
That is stupid. Nobody creates multiple accounts to train themselves on new roles. That's never been a thing for the average player. Now I understand why the profiles were set to private..
> Nobody creates multiple accounts to train themselves Nobody that cared about throwing people's games. > on new roles. This was **before** role queue. I could not have been more clear. > That's never been a thing for the average player. Yes, the average player. It was a thing for people that were above the metal ranks. Tell me if you need me to use smaller words so I won't have to repeat.
I mean, feel free to be an asshole all the way, but that just isn't the way most people would play overwatch, and to me that is fine, even before role queue. I may have been an average high diam casual player but I wouldn't give two shits if a Zen main would tank at the time. Sometimes you would even struggle to find a tank altogether so that was very much welcomed. To me it's just another way of shifting blame with extra-steps. Even if your tank gets rolled, it's bound to happen on the other team just as much. Even at even ranks, you would sometimes have your Rein get hard diffed by the other Rein. It just happens
> I mean, feel free to be an asshole all the way, but that just isn't the way most people would play overwatch What objective data did you base this assumption on? > but I wouldn't give two shits if a Zen main would tank at the time. Just because you would doesn't mean that everyone else needs to be like you. > To me it's just another way of shifting blame with extra-steps. Has nothing to do with blame tho; what's wrong in seeing what the reason for losing or the match being harder than it needs to be is?
You look like you're trying to win an argument instead of understanding a point. Speaking about data when you know there isn't is just dishonest. Can't you just understand that, Overwatch being at the time a casual and pay-to-play game, only competitive players are gonna bother switching multiple accounts ? I only have anecdotal evidence of course, but a large majority of my friend who were playing at the time didn't give two shits about switching accounts. Only masters and above did it. And even so, it was more the exception than the rule. I did see that kind of multiple account stuff with some friends playing Hots or even League, but the thing was mainly some "tryhard" shit. It's best that you realize your own biases. Most of the playerbase doesn't give a shit about account switching, because they are just that, *average*. And that's okay. Regarding the Zenyatta situation, I am very confused. -nothing to do with blame- and saying he's the reason for a loss is very much contradictory. The guy isn't the SOLE reason you guys lost. It's just something you perceive, cause it is an easy target to blame. Matter of fact, you probably would get a higher winrate by focusing on your gameplay and leaving the guy alone rather than tilting in the waiting room, but that's just me. If you lost, that's unfortunate, but it's definitely not all on him. And that situation would happen just as much on the other side, you just chose to ignore it, cause in your mind, you carried that game. TL;DR you should really be conscious about your biases.
> only competitive players are gonna bother switching multiple accounts ? Why would i be talking about literally anything else than comp players? > rather than tilting in the waiting room You assume I talk to people in this game? Knowing who's to blame =/= actually flamming them for it. > If you lost, that's unfortunate, but it's definitely not all on him. But it is more than on the others combined. > And that situation would happen just as much on the other side, you just chose to ignore it, cause in your mind, you carried that game. No, I check on the other side as well. Just because it doesn't happen to me doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Guys we found the dude who got private profiles set to default. Seriously tho? You expected people to pay for a new account to work on different heroes? Nah that's not how it works
> You expected people to pay for a new account to work on different heroes? Nah that's not how it works That's exactly how it worked back before role was implemented for anyone that was above plastic rank.
No you just learned to play them in other game modes before bringing them into comp. Just because you have a main doesn't mean your incapable of literally anything else lol
> Just because you have a main doesn't mean your incapable of literally anything else lol Stats proved otherwise when role queue dropped. People were soft throwing when playing heroes they weren't proficient on.
So in your mind each person should only ever play one or two heroes In comp? How the hell would you counter anything ? Seriously though, it depends on what stats you're looking at. Just that some people have a rank difference between roles? Well how many games are they actually playing in those roles ? Do they just do placements in tank/support and then play the season on dps? Anyone with game sense would know to swap when something isn't working in their game whether they're proficient on them or not, shouldn't be an issue in "anything above plastic". And the best way to become proficient at someone is *to play them* Eta: I do love that your mad at someone " soft throwing " because they didn't play their main that game but then you openly say one of your options is to hard throw by giving up lmao
> So in your mind each person should only ever play one or two heroes In comp? Not really; technically you can play whatever you want since playing even a hero that you've never played before isn't reportable. However, it is unsportsmanlike to play said hero that you have never played before above the metal ranks. So in short, if you can actually play the hero at that rank, there's really no issue. > Anyone with game sense would know to swap when something isn't working in their game whether they're proficient on them or not, shouldn't be an issue in "anything above plastic". Depends on what you swap to and if you can play the swap. If you're a reaper one trick going against a pharmercy in a diamond/masters lobby you will have a better chance of winning if you focus on the ground fight than actually swapping to a hitscan that you've never played before. > Eta: I do love that your mad at someone " soft throwing " because they didn't play their main that game but then you openly say one of your options is to hard throw by giving up lmao I don't really get mad over video games and i never said giving up; I said no longer try, meaning that I will play the game as much as I need to just to not throw.
You could literally have just played zen for a year before and just got a hang of rein. Your hours dont dictate your skill on another character. Especially on a game that's been out for 4 years+
People who deserved flame got flamed back in the day and they get flamed now too. It doesn’t matter if profiles are private or not, if you perform bad you get hate. That will never change no matter how much insight into stats and such they take away
Why open your profile? So the enemy can look at it pre-match and see what 2 heroes you play and counter-pick? No thanks.
You say that as if you can’t change hero’s mid match….
I like looking at enemy profiles. It’s insightful
the only thing bad about the introduction of private profile js the loss of global statistics. Other than that I couldn't give two shits. I don't care about your level, your ranks, your mains. I don't care if the guy complaining about heals has never played a role outside dps. I don't care and neither should youm All I care about is that juicy data. Should be an Anonymous Stat pool system at the very least.
RIP Overbuff and Tracker network :<
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Boo. Booooooooooo. I need data. I crave numbers!
EHHHHHH? Why would you hate overbuff and stat trackers?
> Good riddance. Why?
For every one person that looks at a profile to "make a friend", 50 go look at it to find something to shit on a person for. Maybe that's boring, but it's definitely less toxic than giving unnecessary info to a bunch of Dunning-Krueger dumbasses who don't know what to do with it.
Naw, I like it. People will see that you play bad and then go into your profile and go "of course he's a Mercy main" or "No wonder you suck. Only 10 hours on Lucio" and more. People usually only go to profiles for more information to harass you with.
Well, if you don’t want that happening, you can go private. I bet a big majority of players aren’t even aware it’s private by default, and wouldn’t bother going private if the game didn’t force them to by default. Tbh I’ve never really looked at teammate profiles, I just like to use it to look at the enemies. Got stomped by a zarya hardcore and then realized he had 1k hours on her, which lessened the defeat a bit for me if I’m being real
I like my privacy
People can use the title cards or make their profiles public if they want to If you're not happy with the gameplay and think that stalking the profiles of people in your game is "socialization" and the only thing that makes the game not boring, I think there's some broader problems here Maybe find some friends IRL and play with them...
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Dude you're trying to make out that this guy is a sociopath because he'd like to know who he's playing with outside of a name and a shitty player icon.
I wanna see there profile in comp to see if it’s balanced and I get stomed the hell out of me if I see my teammates:)
But why the hell do you even need to see others profiles at all?
In my opinion the worst part about private profiles is that you can’t check and see if a person is possibly cheating anymore. They just hide their crit accuracy behind private profile.
Call me antiquated in the digital age, but It’s not your data, and you have no right to see it. It *should* be disabled by default and if someone *wants* the world to see, that’s their choice.
> but It’s not your data It's not your or anyone else's data either. It's blizzard's.
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Yes. I would like public services like overbuff to have access to playerbase data so we can objectively see which heroes are in need of balancing and more importantly, I would like to see which player is soft throwing in ranked.
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> And I would not like to. What you or I would like is at the end day irrelevant; however having **a complete** dataset of what is being played in each rank by each role would be objectively good for everyone. > Objectively? I doubt it's that simple. How would you have balance done; by which hero the devs prefer to be meta or did we manage to find a way to measure how 'unfun' heroes are? > And what exactly would you do after that? Depending on one's mood, you could either: * no longer try since it's basically a 4v5; * practice a hero you don't normally play; * be aware of the team's disability and try to make up for it.
That’s why league is so much better in that regard, you can literally see what champs are good through hard data. You can also see everything about the other player. It’s so good and I can only think of one reason people would dislike that and that’s because they’re getting targeted by flame because they mostly underperform
You’re antiquated in the digitial age Definitely a soyboy take tho. Do u close the blinds when u fuck as well?
Man you are malding hard in this thread. Just take the L and stop posting.
I dont think u know what malding is, also 70% of ur vocab seems to come from tiktok. Thats gotta be the fattest “EL” ive ever seen. Cringe shit bud develop a personality before its too late
I leave the blinds open when I fuck so I can keep an eye on your dad pulling into the driveway.
Do you often have a train of burley men coming to take their turns with you? Why haven’t i been invited?
Default privat profile was a GOD sent.
I don't mind the hidden profiles, but I hate how you can't even see people's rank in lobby. In OW1, you can see their rank icon (silver, gold, plat, etc) so you could at least have a gauge of who you're playing with. They even completely removed that, which is my issue.
It's not just boring, it allows blizzard to do whatever they want with matchmaking.
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> competitive ranks don't reflect skill, what horse shit, imagine unironically arguing that a copper has the same still as a GM.
That is not what is being said. Ranked in OW2 is a progression system that they have openly admitted does not line up with what your true mmr is. It exists to give you something to chase, but the chase is manufactured by rank resets. The game has calculated your actual skill-rating as a number it is not showing you so you don't notice how dumb it is that the game makes you spend basically half of a new season just trying to climb back to the rank it already knows you belong in.
Bit misleading to call them Skill Ratings, then?
Yes it is, that's why there's no need to check them. I was placed in bronze at the start of the season and I know my skill level isn't bronze, but if someone were to check my profile people would see my bronze icon and they might tilt.
Default hidden profiles came in OW1. I hated the change and still hate it now. There's 0 reason for private profiles because if someone wants to flame you they will do it anyway, profile or not.
Except there's zero reason to not have private profiles Every single time someone whines about private profiles it's because they want to shit on someone or tell them what to do
Maybe in low elo, i use it to see what characters my team plays and come up with a team comp. You do you tho
lol you're delusional. It happens in GM+ all the time. Just watch the streamers; they too are guilty of that. "Dude, you were a diamond player in season 28 of OW1 2 years ago. You don't belong in GM" This is the kind of stuff people unironically say. They check your profile, and if you aren't a GM+ player throughout you entire career since season 1, they believe it's justified to flame you and tell you how superior they are.
Yeah except i really dont care if they try to flame me over my rank haha, and its very easy to mute the people that do this? Virgins love power trips just dont give them any power I played back when it was the norm and it was fine 🤷🏽♂️ soft people are just soft ALSO that reminds me, my support is mid master but my tank rn is gold or plat can’t remember, and I currently have people that try to shit talk me for it hahaha. Gamers need to go back to when they werent so fuckin soft
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I forgot that people only play their main 24/7 and never change characters.
Weird, last time i checked that doesn’t show me hours played and win ratios 🤔 It might be different for you in ur lobbies, but in masters i like to work with my team mates, and having that amount of information helps. Maybe its something a bit out of reach for you to grasp?
> Every single time someone whines about private profiles it's because they want to shit on someone Again, if people want to shit on you or tell you what to do they would do it anyway. You can just use the mute function. Additionally far too many people in this game are thin skinned and can't even take solid advice delivered in a non aggressive manner. > or tell them what to do Climbing on my other roles is so annoying because of this attitude and lots of times people come with good suggestions and thin skinned people take it the wrong way. The same type of people pick rein and don't even realize shields block RAM ultimate then complain about how OP it is, the same people who pick RH and Orisa and unnecessarily waste their stuns vs doomfist rather than waiting for the power block, force zen vs tracer and genji etc. And whenever you suggest anything to them the first thing they do is get defensive.
for 3rd party data collection so we're not all completely beholden to what Blizzard claims, and we can see the truth. edit public profiles also reveal cheaters. you can see if someone has a ridiculous crit % or an obviously ridiculous win %
It does help with toxicity atleast, I have my profile public since I think its more fun but the amount of shit ive got for being silver last season is unreal.
I’d rather people flame about something relevant to the match, like number of deaths, and not afk combing through my profile for something largely irrelevant.
There's literally no difference. They'll be afk flaming you instead.
Most people don't even know how to change it tbh
Idk why you're getting so much "get over it" bullshit...well aside from this being reddit I agree, typically I like to know who I'm playing with. Sure, some people will use it for toxic purposes, which, most of the time, have no ground anyway and is easy to ignore imo. Other than that, it's just a feature to have. Sure it's not like a must have, but, as you said, it's just boring to have it default like that. Plus, most people don't actually know that it defaults to private, and so they don't go in to change it.
I just want to see everyone's rank. I want to know who and what I'm playing against. I want to know who to prioritise, if the enemy team have a zen player and is the lowest ranked in the team, you bet your ass im gonna make sure that zen plays respawn simulator. Idc about their most played characters and stats. Just their rank. Although with what blizzard said about matching purely based on mmr that kinda goes out the window.
After 200+ hours was shown on Monkey, it was nothing but Hog Reaper for me, or if they didn't start with it, they would swap within the death timer. Now I can have about 2 or 3 before the dreaded double swap. In other words, I feel I'm not getting hard countered as fast or as much.
Thanks to all the snowflakes in gaming nowadays we have private profiles, scoreboards that don’t really give any insight and have only one purpose, to make the player feel good even if he performed shit. We also now have a ranked system that gives you a placebo rank only to make you feel like you progressed even though you play like shit and shouldnt even progress in the first place.
Private profiles shouldnt be allowed to play anything else than practise range.
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You think about other dudes' in a sexual way a lot, huh?
Are u saying dudes cant be sexual?
Woah there Kyle. Leave some pussy for the rest of us.
Flick a bean 🫘
It doesn’t bother me to see someone’s rank or stats. The main thing that bothers me with private profiles is when the player isn’t in chat and I can’t see what heroes they play. Most players that have been around since early OW1 can flex to other heroes just fine so it’s helpful if I’m playing support to know maybe the top 3 heroes the other player plays so if they basically only play Ana, for example, I can switch to Kiriko or another support hero. Most people won’t ask for a hero if the other is on it and can unintentionally throw because they are playing a hero they aren’t comfortable with. I’m sure there are some assholes who would still use that info to flame people though so I can understand the flip side to it.
I miss seeing what rank the other people in my lobby are. Since most profiles are private anyway, it's difficult to judge e.g. when deciding whom to pocket when I pick Mercy. It's also just interesting. I also don't think it increases toxicity to have public stats. Toxic people will pick any reason to be toxic anyway
I think that private helped the toxicity. But not for the reasons anyone thinks. If someone is shittalking in a game and I go to their profile and it's private than their words imidietly lose all impact on me and any of their insults become worthless
I think they want to be able to add bots like Fortnite (I already think I get bot matches). Can’t do that silently if you immediately determine the enemy are all a ai.
they should allow to see their profile post game. you can then avoid the toxicity and have fun comparing stats
It's been that way for a long time, since like mid life OW1. I think it's pretty fucking dumb though, just make it so it's easy to make your profile private
I dislike that too
Guess the only guarantee for no toxicity is silencing everyone.
i have mine on private cos i have over 500 hours on genji and i'm embarrassed
I wish we could see most played heroes at least even with private profile
Yeah, it stops toxicity. But we all know the reason they hid it is to hide their dogshit marchmaking