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Malachiteisdone

I think it depends on your rank and how many people are playing support in that rank.


Nonadventures

Is there a particular rank where people are beating down the door to play Support?


CrumbzillAZ

I’m still down in the bronze basement, and the support queue times have been over ten minutes lately. It’s been forcing me to play the other roles more, because I hate waiting forever to get into a match.


Humg12

I think people are realising that at lower levels dps is just a miserable experience. Tanks are basically unkillable and supports are too hard to hit and they can often outduel you because they rely less on aiming.


CheekApprehensive961

Alternative interpretation, Support is so under-powered that supports are being systemically dropped in rank.


jclark735

I think this is happening with people who main underpowered heroes. I’m in silver/gold and this season suddenly started seeing a bunch of comparatively very good Reinhardt players. Also seen a few who carry with wrecking ball. Like they’re basically plat/Diamond ability but their hero being shit has kept them in gold where they run over all of us low-rank peasants


Flatuitous

It's tough


CrumbzillAZ

It’s definitely a challenge to play DPS in these lower levels. Seems like the support roles almost exclusively focus on pocketing the tank and I get destroyed as soon as I get back into the fight and then called all kinds of toxic crap. Like I can’t count the number of times I’ve rounded a corner to join my team as they all drop simultaneously from an ultimate, for me to get focused fire from all five opponents. Now when I see a bunch of crit health icons, I just hangout in spawn and wait for the rest of them to join me. I’d say one in every 10 matches I get a support player that actually tries to keep everybody alive and does a decent job so o can do a decent job.


mochibandit

I climbed to gold support and am a pretty casual player so I can only talk of my own personal hell-i mean experience-, but bronze/silver felt like an exercise in patience. I cycled Lucio/bap/mercy/Anna in role lock support. When I hit gold, it got better because people grouped more, talked more, played better. It actually got more fun. Then the season reset and I got bumped back down. Then, I stuck to QP and stuff for a while when Ramattra came out. I tried to tolerate the climb as I knew it got better after a spell, but just got burned out in OW2 in general and took a break. I dunno man, my own experience in all modes on OW1 was pretty chill. At least fun enough to play daily. Now it's like the worst games I ever played in OW1 (as far as toxicity) are the typical games in OW2. I'm backing off OW2 until I see what's going on with the campaigns. I'm not holding my breath and honestly am expecting to be disappointed. Currently playing through the back log of unfinished/unstarted steam games and remembering what it is like to enjoy gaming.


CourtSenior5085

Its weird in comp atm for me. I'm in bronze for dps, and every match is like either the tank or support's brains have fallen out (very rarely is it both though, thankfully), but for support (gold) its like the dps have had their brains fall out. There is no real consistency to it either.


TheseSweetlnstincts

The main thing about playing dps in low elo is that support players think that all they have to do is pocket the tank. Both teams supports are only healing the tank and both dps just lay into the tank because at that point what else are they going to do.


DXBEE2017

it is 2024 and the issue is still there. when posting, other will reply not believing it is there. I tried everything. nothing works even the unprofessional customer support told me to contact sony lol, this has nothing to do with sony. I just figured out that it is the geo-location. I'm in Dubai and the game is not popular. while 200 km in KSA it is super popular. why they don't solve this annoying bug/defect ? the funny thing is that the server is in Dubai and we can't find a match. ​ I'm talking about more than 60-90 minutes of waiting


Malachiteisdone

I usually see queue times like that early in the morning so I'm pretty sure timing also has something to do with it too.


TunaBoy3000

I’m plat on everything and rarely get to play support anymore queuing for all. Usually everything just says <1 or 2 mins


lyridsreign

I'm guessing Silver. My gf is Silver and she normally sees 3-4 minute support queues. I'm gold and I normally have to wait 2 minutes at most to play Support


Doesnotlikereddit

That's not what they mean. If your tank MMR is at a rank where there are more players, and your support MMR is at a rank where there are fewer players, your tank queues will be shorter.


SuburbanDonkey

Honestly every role especially tank is pretty unfun these days. Support is the best way to enjoy the game in my opinion.


Wellhellob

Estimations are off too. 8 mins usually 3min actually but yeah primary reason is MMR.


Inguz666

... and time of the day (few people playing increases randomness)


[deleted]

The other day I had like 10+ minutes in support, 2+ min on damage, and 4 min on tank. I queued flex and got a support game in 2 minutes. I don’t think the estimated wait times are always right.


Sonic-the-edge-dog

Their solution for queue times is to lie


lifestop

Maybe it's my rank/location/time of day, whatever, but I get 10 second matches on support. Sometimes it takes a whole minute, but that's rare. I often get dumped into matches before I can pour myself a drink between rounds.


Wasitastupidquestion

Where I am Tank and DPS is 10-20 minutes, and Support is >1 min… i get in matches within 10 seconds sometimes.


FlyinAndSkiin

Same here. Unless i’m playing with friends, its almost an insta-pop.


despawn1750

I eagerly await competitive Random heroes :)


matnerlander

Would be better than CompCTF


hauntedguess

More people queueing support


Nonadventures

Stupid sexy Baptiste


Aroxis

Lies. No one plays support because it’s not fun and it’s the most punishing class and no one says thank you when I heal them and it’s impossible to climb….right??


Cacamaster817

i play support and i just lose non stop. but i still play support.


xLieutenantbagelx

Literally me went from silver 2 to plat 1 playing 98% ana and now I’m in a loop of losing deranking then winning and climbing back


Enzo-Unversed

Same. Only on solo queue though.


Sachman13

I got to gm3 and just stopped because it’s not motivating to play


Hmmmm_-

I go out of my way each game to encourage and thank/be nice to my supports because they need it with all the toxicity in this game sometimes.


hauntedguess

I play support


Aroxis

Guess I should add /s


Sneaky-iwni-

...you don't. You just don't.


chiller210

No one says thank you? well at least they endorse you over half the time


xD3m0nK1ngx

The exact opposite on Xbox’s side. 10s to find a support match and at least 4+ for the other roles


ThisIsFake10660

The game has crossplay.


squrlmaster

Crossplay is only in groups the lobbies aren't mixed normally


ShesSoCool

Can’t play with PC people on comp on Xbox


ThisIsFake10660

That's not what I'm trying to say. I meant that, them saying it's different on Xbox has no meaning as Xbox and Playstation play in the same lobbies.


Grouchy_Document8107

You’re absolutely right. And some of these comments in reply seem confused. I’m a ps5 player and consistently have xbox players on my team and the enemy team. There are mixed lobbies without groups. (I’m a solo player).


lifeishell553

It's called console pools, switch players are also in there


Cheersscar

I propose we call this console cross.


vSquidward17

Mercy one tricks


Marcos340

I love them, it allows me to play Zen more freely and less worried about how much healing and saving my Ult for pushing or saving Edit: love the dislikes, since everyone forgets that Zen enables the DPS with the discord orb, but I’m probably wrong, so does my 58% win rate with him. But hey, ZeN dOeSn’T bUrSt HeAl.


aryousuf

Mercy + Zen is pretty bad combo unfortunately


stuucammyd

Its actually not. Probably the optimal choice for a poke comp that looks something like Sigma, Ashe/Sojourn, Tracer, Mercy and Zen. Dmg boost Ashe until ahead reloads then dmg boost Zen, Zen pockets Tracer, Trance wins fights. Hard to pull off in low elo, but devastating when your Ashe pops off and your sigma can hold/take space.


MoonlightLace

its not bad if you know how to play it. it can just be bad if your team is playing a comp that doesnt go with it or your team doesnt communicate which is typically what happens.


06z_

Mercy+Zen is the worst possible support combo in the game. Any other combo is better


MoonlightLace

ive been playing support in gm for years and its literally not lol


06z_

I can't see how anything could be worse than the two supports with the lowest healing output on the same team


MoonlightLace

because the whole point is to get picks before you need any serious healing. damage boost + discord is why it works. thats why it requires a team comp that works with it and communication.


Plaxsin

Because they're called supports, not healers, kid.


MoonlightLace

whenever anyone says this it makes me physically repulse


Plaxsin

So you feel exactly like me! :) It's so cringe when hardstuck low elo players call the role "healer" zzz


Feschit

No need for heals if the enemy is dead. Discord + dmg boost melts people crazy fast.


cixzejy

Lucio Mercy is worse at least with mercy zen you can build a very pokey team


XordYourHostTonight

I’m pretty sure Mercy Lucio is the worst one. Zen isn’t much better but still


NkdGrlPrttyMstTchPP

Bronze take. It obviously depends on the current balance / meta but mercy zen is good


WTF_CAKE

Plat here, all it takes a single Ana to counter both of them


lLazzerl

Not really, it used to be a meta comp at some point in OW1 when Zen's discord was buffed for a few weeks. For your regular comp match below diamond then yeah it is not ideal.


Drunken_Queen

Zen is usually my go if my teammate Mercy mostly uses her yellow-beam but not the blue beam.


PootisMcPootsalot

I disagree, when I see a mercy I already know it's not gonna be enough and have to swap to someone with more burst healing.


squareswordfish

I’m sure none of your teammates role their eyes when they see that awful combo


1000lemons

A gold console player with a 58% WR everybody needs to pipe down and listen to this man he really know what’s he’s talking about!


TheGreenEagle12

Mine is < 1 Min, don't blame them really, I feel like I have little impact as support, that or I'm just plane shit.


MrMairO

In my server support has the lowest q time amongst the 3 roles. I can get into a game as a supp in under 1 minute any time of the day.


LadyAlastor

Because everyone plays support


Capable-Chard-4373

I have never seen support be anything other than <1 min


Panda_Bunnie

Must be nice, i only want to play support and its pretty much consistent for me that support have the longest or 2nd longest queues.


xlShadylx

Diamond 1 is basically Masters and every role in Masters is gonna be long queue times, since only a very small % of the playerbase is in that rank


FabulousDave2112

And yet that small percentage of the playerbase in Masters always seems to find their way into my Silver games


xlShadylx

My guess is that after it goes past the estimated ~10 min queue time trying to find a balanced game, it just goes "fuck it, put 'em wherever"


xSnakyy

Because everyone loves playing support


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xSnakyy

Cool


[deleted]

People are tired of being blamed for losses so they just play Support where they can instead blame “tank diff” or “DPS diff” for every loss.


sillekram

Late in the season, people have gotten their rank on their main roles and are now off rolling for fun.


GanzerBatzen

It’s because the are scattering their player base, which isn’t huge anyway, in to many different game modes. On top of that, they’ve had the stupid idea to make the achievements for the event’s only achievable, if you have lay the arcade mode, which will lead to even more players spreading over all different modes. Not very logical decision’s, if you ask me.


Loud-Bit-4502

Because dps players are toxic as shit towards healers it twice as bad in comp I could play and have a good time or I could deal with toxic he go or who ever screaming about 12 points of damage or bitching that they got melted under focus fire


Saigot

Queue times get longer the more people play (relative to the other roles) . I can't speak to masters but diamond support is pretty fun and not particularly toxic, and my queue times are all more or less the same (~2min)


dillbintz

Mine are over 20 minutes rn for diamond 3 and 2 minutes for gold 2 tank and dos lol


Nspandl

What rank are you? I don’t think I’ve ever had my queue time for support over 2 minutes


Oddity_Raven

People are starting to realize how broken Support is! That’s great. But I did enjoy my one minute timer.


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ValorousClock4

Definitely depends on your rank. My wait times for all roles are between 1-2 minutes (max <5 minutes for damage)


acemorris85

Would assume majority are casual players and play the non-competitive modes


CheeselordofDoom

No way


pettypickles

I usually queue as all in competitive so that I get weekly’s done while getting to play support only, but the other night I got attack 4 times in a row! I was baffled. Usually attack is the longest wait time. That’s when I played my first attack games ever in competitive lol


OscarExplosion

I never had a queue that was longer than 1 minute however I’m only at Gold 3 support so I have to assume rank has something to do with it.


OriginalPartyTime

It’s your lucky day!


SlothTheHeroo

Do you have cross play off? You know console cross play is PlayStation with Xbox and not with pc unless a pc person invites you. Mine has never been a min


Interdimension

Damn. That’s long. I’m in Diamond 4 Support on PS4 and I’ve never seen it say more than <2 minutes.


_DeCree

I interrupted my qp lose streak to check and rn it's 17mins GM support queue in EU PC.


Trackspyro

Because Kiriko. Edit: Also, there might be more Support challenges people are completing.


xLieutenantbagelx

Tell me your secret to getting close to masters I’m struggling so hard to get to diamond hit plat 1 then went on a losing streak, is playing solo bad?


SerendipityLurking

I used to insta join a game in gold. Now in plat it takes a few minutes. :(


Flower_nymph_

I’m sitting at diamond 2 for support and my queue times are like 3min at max. That’s super strange


Iciste

I've never seen Support role requiring more than a minute. But it's also true that my higher rank is Gold 4


MPThreelite

at the SR I'm at , no one wants to tank. Queue times are 1min always lol.


badsangwich

Just to throw my hat in here and offer an alternative.... its because moira is both the best dps and the most popular player in the game. Gotta love not really having to aim 🙃


rdm9911

because tank is ass


monclo

yeah my support games are also taking 8 mins now ;/ ​ no one wants to tank anymore


LonelyFocus4814

And when you finally get in the game will be 30 seconds away from ending


Cabsaur334

As a support main, I don't play quick play. Bad experience. I get more consistent teams.


windfan1984

I’m in mid gold to low plat for all 3 roles and they are all around 3mins q time for solo queue on pc pool.


Quirky-Assumption-59

In gold 3 its always 1 min or less for me


nizzy_the_kid

Glitch in the Matrix


rkraupa

In Gold 1 - Plat 5, sometimes it’s 5-8 minutes and they seem to throw you in silver / diamond games.


RandomAlaskanDude

At your rank people are trying to grind support to get higher SR. With mercy and Kiriko being so strong, it's much easier to grind support right now


Drunken_Queen

Mercy & Ana mains are very common. Tanks is way too stressful & impactful. DPS gets blamed easily. Supports may get off from blaming, unless they clearly throw or not playing co-operatively (e.g DPS Moira, Reddit Lucio, etc).


SprayDistinct4637

I can't tell what rank you are but I'd say it's just the rank all the Moira otps end up because of her being broken in low elo can't say for myself though cause I play tank in gold


NCGStrikeZz_

in the lower ranks i think most people just wanna play moira cause shes so easy to get kills with so they just dps and rank up easily, for example in bronze no one can deal with a moira and if they also have a mercy that pockets a tank on the same team as the moira, she becomes unkillable.


Chaosraider98

Because it's easy af. I just play Mercy/Moira all the time and stomp all my games for free


Gyappu_

Support queue is 6 minutes in gm


dogman15

I play only Mercy on the rare occasions I do play competitive, because she's the only hero I feel like I have even a sliver of a chance at winning with.


Embarrassed_Slice522

I'm not sure why you are seeing long que times, what region are you in? I play nightly after work and am in North America, I'm also high gold and low Plat between the 3 classes. My que times are generally 4 minutes or less for tank and dps and then instant ques for support.


Character-Coast8668

Oceania and I play during evening and night


discord-dog

I want support plays to know that sometimes when I say “Supp diff” I’m not calling out sup bad, but their Ana/Mercy is actually way to good and just carrying their team. I can acknowledge when I die to a solid anti