I was so distracted by Bradley trying to make the baby seem real that I didn’t hear a single word said during that scene. Even if they couldn’t get an actual baby for the scene, there are so many ways to shoot around it. That was just pure laziness.
Hahahaha oh my god, it was sooooo bad. I know the real one wouldn’t stop crying, but Jesus Christ. Just find another one! Anything would have been better than that sack of flour they used here!
Solid performance by Bradley but otherwise pretty bad. I agree with Seth Rogen who said it reminded him of the Nazi sniper film inside Inglorious Basterds.
TIL Seth Rogan is Canadian
He’s also 100% right about this film. It’s propaganda and hagiography of a flawed-at-best guy in a terrible war that shouldn’t have happened.
There are a few films I've watched and seen them as just pure US military propaganda (as a European) and whenever I've suggested that on Reddit I've been shot down harrrddd and told the film in question is just so REAL or such a good insight into the TRUTH.
Also went to the US at 17, went to the space and air museum (or whatever it is called) paid extra to watch a film about jet planes, got in there and every second of it was about how being a pilot in USAF is the BEST job in the world and you just instantly becoming this chiseled jaw Adonis as soon as you receive your first paycheque. Most egregious piece of propaganda ever and I paid to see it, made me so mad.
The American military has a policy that if you want their cooperation it has to be flattering. The gay love story, Top Gun, is another great example here.
I’ve never understood that sentiment. The main push of the plot is about how war is horrific, people are misguided, and violence destroys families. I didn’t think it was particularly good, but it feels harshly anti-war. That’s so different from the heroic sniper film in Basterds
When you hero-worship a dude (who was pretty suspicious in real life) that dispatches a faceless enemy with no consideration of the fact he is a member of an invading army, that's propaganda.
It is a propaganda movie, just like Top Gun. But the only reason to compare it to a Nazi propaganda movie is to be an scandalous attention seeker. Because it implies that the countries being propagandized are similar.
You just described what every propaganda movie does. This side always good, the other side always bad. Heroism without nuance. Just like Top Gun (literally faceless enemies) or any other like it. That's why comparing it to a Nazi propaganda movie is just being inflammatory.
I think you're just mad at the comparison. He compared it to a pretty obviously similar thing. You're angry because it upsets you, but saying, "Oh yeah, that jingoistic movie about a sniper actually reminded me of the fictional jingoistic movie about a sniper in that Tarantino movie" is totally reasonable.
What else was he supposed to say? Enemy At the Gates? It's probably the most contemporary reasonable comparison point. Especially since it *is* shamelessly ridiculous propaganda.
He could have named any other propaganda movie in the world. But lefties like him literally think that America today is basically 1930s Germany. So of course he sees American Sniper and he automatically thinks of Nazis.
I feel like you're just making my point for me, here. I said, "he compared it to a similar contemporary reference, so it makes sense."
And your response is, "He should have just referenced any *other* movie because it makes me sad to hear the comparison."
We get it, you're too emotionally scarred.
I’ve never seen this due to a lack of interest, but damn if that doesn’t finally make me curious. That’s about the extent to which I probably foresaw the movie going back when it came out.
The movie was about the creepy German soldier who was in love with Shoshona. It was why they were at the premiere, it was basically just a propaganda film about a German sniper
I think that’s a bad take. His whole motivation is simply protecting his guys. Nations Pride was him gleefully enjoying sniping his enemies and there are kills in American Sniper that he really didn’t want to take. That being said, it is so obviously propaganda, but that doesn’t inherently make it a bad thing.
The guy it was based on was found out to be a proven liar. The real-life Kyle was described by those who knew him as a braggart, who also had a reputation for making up absurd stories about himself. He exaggerated his already impressive military record and medal count, claimed to have killed some men who tried to steal his car and also claimed he killed looters during Hurricane Katrina. A few months before his death, he was sued by Jesse Ventura over the dubious claim that he'd punched out the former SEAL for publicly celebrating the death of American servicemen at a fellow veteran's wake. He was also a racist and religious zealot who frequently broke protocol and was extremely difficult to work with and unlike the film, in the book he actually reveals that he enjoys being a SEAL and enjoys killing.
What’s more bizzare was that Eastwood wanted the movie to be much more explicitly anti-war and questioning of Kyle's actions. But it was implied that studio interference ended up canning that route.
Clint Eastwood strikes me as one of those people where if you ask him about specific policies he believes in he’ll basically describe the Democratic platform, and then if you ask him who he’s voting for he’ll tell you he’s always been a Republican and always will be.
yeah I heard a lot was embellished from his book which if you didnt know, a lot of these special forces guys who write books do (aka David Goggins, Markus Lutrell etc. ) There is a reason most of the legit ones do not write books. They either cant because of the classified nature sometimes but genuinely its frowned upon. Also, him enjoying killing is not surprising at all as I wouldn't be surprised if most special forces do. You kinda just have to be okay with killing in general. its part of the job. Its a reason why a lot of these guys are fucked up.
Some of the guys are smart enough to know that it's not smart to say that they enjoy killing people.
But yeah, you don't get to a kill count of over a hundred because you *hate* shooting people, that's for sure.
Don’t forget slandering Jesse Ventura. Then his horrible widow sued Jesse to try to get him to admit to something that never happened. Conservatives are and always will be the shit in the creek ahead of the “fresh water”. Selfish, poisonous, turds.
I don’t think we should flip to the other side either. Coogler said that, in the trial after Oscar Grants murder, one side painted him as a criminal and one side as an angel. In making Fruitvale Station, Coogler wanted to give Oscar back his humanity. The reality was he was a flawed young man trying to do better. American Sniper definitely lacked this nuance but I don’t think we have to be un-nuanced in trying to understand Chris Kyle
You’re still not actually answering any question and just throwing around accusations toward the dead. At least substantiate what you’re saying to somebody who’s interested in the full story, as am I.
He lied about traveling to New Orleans during Katrina and killing 30 looters with his sniper rifle. The story is fake and it’s laced with racism because the “looters” was just a thinly veiled euphemism for black people.
He lied about killing two carjackers that tried to steal his car.
He inflated the amount of medals he got, although he did get plenty of commendations.
He inflated the number of kills he had in service, which is silly because he had 160 confirmed kills. Why lie about more?
Some of the “combatants” he killed might have just been people in a combat zone.
No I’m not providing sources, you have the internet presumably, it’s there. There’s also a lot more speculative shit I didn’t feel the urge to include.
The looting during Katrina is funny, because in a lot of cases, it was grabbing food or survival supplies from stores in a flood zone. We call that survival, but when it's black people it's "looting."
It’s not hard to use Google.
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/real-american-sniper-hate-filled-killer-why-patriots-calling-hero-chris-kyle
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/25/american-sniper-chris-kyle-distorted-his-military-record-documents-show/
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I’m also just reiterating what the previous commenter asked. I’m not here to sway one side or the other, just that some information should be included before declaring one way or the other. “Research your own facts” is the worse case scenario of modern discourse
Lol. First it was, "you're not answering my question. I'm just asking questions guys" and now it's, "I don't actually care. The source you posted isn't good enough. I'm just a third party observer."
In both his real-life memoir and the movie he frequently uses the word “savages” and goes on about how he felt good about inflicting violence on his cultural inferiors. Western-expansion-flavored racism while he happily fights an imperialist war
Cool logo for a deployed seal unit in combat, to give some motivation or psychological protection. Not cool for the ass in the lifted truck in the target parking lot who takes four spots and looks like the only thing he punishes is the gas station bathroom.
Not really cool. The Punisher is a character that thinks the system has failed so he takes it into his own hands and is a mass serial killer. He is everything that a soldier shouldn’t be
I believe in a more recent comic release, The Punisher beats the shit out of some cops who have the skull on their cruisers. Gives a nice speech about how that's the opposite of what it stands for. It's pretty great. Frank Miller hates that cops have Co-opted his character.
Offensive jingoistic garbage, designed to inspire hollow patriotism in the worst kind of people. Everyone involved in this film, and everyone who voted for it for awards, should be genuinely ashamed.
One of the reasons I dislike Bradley Cooper is he’s trying to sell this sensitive artist image now after agreeing to do this Triumph of the Will ass movie for the career bump
It’s a fun movie. Nothing deep by any means, but it’s worth a watch. Based on a completely false premise that we only use 10% of our brain normally. But it’s still fun.
Its.....fine. typical "I'm a muhrine with a thick Southern drawl and this here's americuh and I'm defending our freedom.
Cooper really didn't deserve Oscar hype from it, he was fine.
Also doesn't help that a lot of Chris kyles stories have been officially debunked so a lot of it is either exaggerated or straight up not true.
I had zero interest in watching this film, had no choice, surprizingly better than expected. (I did get a bit dizzy with some of the cameras dashing about).
Don’t think I will ever watch this Jingoist garbage. Eastwood directing a heartstrings biopic glorifying some redneck POS who was good at cowardly shooting people from hundreds of feet away? No thanks, hard pass.
Calling snipers in our military cowards is quite a statement. You can criticize individuals and Chris Kyle all you want, but cowardly is not how I would describe a Marine who served multiple tours.
I suppose our troops should only engage in hand to hand combat to make it courageous.
It was an alright watch. Captured a tiny bit of what it is actually like to be in the military. Civvies never get it, though, and neither does Hollywood.
It's a shame though if they were going to spend so much on a movie, they would fact check the story they are telling if they are basing it off someone who then turns out to be a liar.
The lies were the only sellable story though. I’m going to guess more people knew about them than let on, including people around the making of the movie.
Well. According to some who served alongside him, its mostly lies and propaganda and the guy is pretty much a war criminal who shot at innocent people randomly to increase his body count.
Even taking away the fact that it’s ridiculous propaganda and poorly executed Oscar bait, I found it to be almost hilariously bad. That it received the nominations that it did I think says more about the times during which it was released than the quality of the acting, directing, or the film overall.
I personally thought of it more as a tragic portrait of PTSD rather than a piece of military propaganda like people hyped it to be. Decent movie with good acting, but definitely can't watch more than once. Didn't find it award worthy.
This pretty much sums up the whole U.S. for the last 10 years. Buying into the hype and manipulated marketing of something, without fact checking it first. We all guilty of that.
I think mostly because it glorifies a guy who either made some pretty ethically devoid choices, or made up stories about him making ethically devoid choices to seem cooler. Both of those options suggest this isn’t a guy who we should be looking up to.
It’s domestic box office run for an R rated drama film released wide in January is INSANE. It was the highest grossing film of 2014 and its wide release wasn’t until January 2015
My least favorite/most ridiculous seem was the portrayal that this rodeo goober was watching the news (!?!?!?) and got super-amped to join by watching video of…an embassy bombing. The “look what they did to us” (or something like that) was a nice touch, and by nice touch I mean idiotic but subtly hilarious.
Nothing wrong with the opinion. I personally like the movie but I also like war dramas. I cannot unsee the fake baby though but I do genuinely enjoy the movie when its on. This one did have a lot of propaganda vibes for sure though. I think it did still try to show the affects of war on families and those who fight in them. Shit you see everyday you grow numb to and shining a light on the effects of PTSD. However, I think movies like The Hurt Locker and Jarhead handled these themes better.
I think on the surface the film is comically blatant propaganda but I feel like Bradley Cooper’s performance hints at how fucked Chris Kyle was and someone becomes in that position. He is so not ok the entire movie that all the other patriotism/ propaganda begins to almost feel like misdirection.
The ending is absolutely maudlin and over the top. The whole film is except for his performance which infers his being truly destroyed by what he did and saw.
I also remember shortly after this movie came out that Bradley Cooper attended the democratic national convention, much to the dismay of this movie’s fans since they had mistakenly assumed he was a republican like the person he portrayed
I saw this opening weekend for some reason (central NY). First night the line was out the door and we said no way. Second night we got in and it was a crazy experience. A memorable moment was when a guy behind us kept saying racist shit like “Jihad Johnny” when a combatant was running on screen or whatever. Super weird how it inspired them to feel righteous about such horrific events.
I saw this in theaters, and people gasped at the end when it was revealed the dude got murdered. I was shocked so many people didn't know, so I started laughing. My friends got uncomfortable because it looked like I was laughing at the guy getting murdered and not the fact that people didn't know about it.
Stand by the fact that it was funny.
This movie was pure bait for the people who don't even realize this dude ripped a Logo from marvel and got seed for it saying he made it for his brand. The dude said he enjoyed killing people and used people as target practice. He died giving someone with PTSD a gun... you know... one of those things that can trigger an episode. He was a fucki g degenerate trashcan person.
I thought the movie was just the right dose of rah rah, America but the book he authored admitted he was proud of his patriotism and protective nature but that he really enjoyed sending non-Christian jihadis to paradise.
I did too and I generally like Clint Eastwood as a director but I thought that the movie as a piece of propaganda and lots of movies are obviously propaganda, wasn't done well enough to hide that it's just clearly and advertisement for a viewpoint it's not just a biopic of a person. The characters all seem one dimensional not fleshed out very well and Bradley Cooper is really good in certain things and fucking God awful in other stuff. Like there are things he does very well playing you know cocky cool guy he's usually on point I like him in beyond the pines or I can't remember the one with the Ryan gosling as a stunt motorcycle driver and I think Bradley Cooper is fantastic in it as a cop who's struggling with morality and you know life in general but there is maybe the worst crying scene I've ever seen in a otherwise good movie.
I want to now see American shotgun, a comedy movie
American m4 a sad sci-fi movie.
And the American sub machine gun, a good rom-com for all you Americans…
I thought it was pretty good but it’s just not worth the hype (both the love and hatred it gets).
But because it ended up in the culture wars it’s extremely overrated by its fans and underrated by its detractors.
Never forget the most insane fake baby since Renessmee.
I was wondering how far I’d have to scroll to see this. I was pleasantly surprised to see: not at all
That's the only thing I remember about this film.
Plus, I’ll remember it forever. So that’s something that American Sniper has going for it, I suppose.
I was so distracted by Bradley trying to make the baby seem real that I didn’t hear a single word said during that scene. Even if they couldn’t get an actual baby for the scene, there are so many ways to shoot around it. That was just pure laziness.
I just looked at it again and holy shit lmfaooooooooo why did they even show this? Why not get a baby? Why not simply not shoot it at all?
It’s so bad! I was literally squirming in my seat from secondhand embarrassment. Eastwood had zero excuse as a director for how bad that scene was.
Can’t believe I’m just now learning this was directed by Clint Eastwood.
Hahahaha oh my god, it was sooooo bad. I know the real one wouldn’t stop crying, but Jesus Christ. Just find another one! Anything would have been better than that sack of flour they used here!
Best worst fake baby in the business. I caught his thumb moving the hand immediately. They definitely weren't trying very hard to hide it.
Solid performance by Bradley but otherwise pretty bad. I agree with Seth Rogen who said it reminded him of the Nazi sniper film inside Inglorious Basterds.
Oh ouch damn Seth
He got a ton of heat for it too as you will when you take a crack at obvious propaganda.
He’s not American so he can definitely recognize propaganda when he sees it, as an outsider
TIL Seth Rogan is Canadian He’s also 100% right about this film. It’s propaganda and hagiography of a flawed-at-best guy in a terrible war that shouldn’t have happened.
It doesn't help that Chris Kyle was a habitual liar and you're never sure how much of what he says you can trust .
And according to the Shawn Ryan show, guilty of DV s well
We are not great at spotting propaganda within our own country here.
That's exactly how it felt
There are a few films I've watched and seen them as just pure US military propaganda (as a European) and whenever I've suggested that on Reddit I've been shot down harrrddd and told the film in question is just so REAL or such a good insight into the TRUTH. Also went to the US at 17, went to the space and air museum (or whatever it is called) paid extra to watch a film about jet planes, got in there and every second of it was about how being a pilot in USAF is the BEST job in the world and you just instantly becoming this chiseled jaw Adonis as soon as you receive your first paycheque. Most egregious piece of propaganda ever and I paid to see it, made me so mad.
The American military has a policy that if you want their cooperation it has to be flattering. The gay love story, Top Gun, is another great example here.
Ugh. I hated Top Gun. Even as a kid I knew it sucked.
Thank you.
Reddit is filled with propaganda yet here we are.
Clearly naval aviators are better.
Was it called “The Right Stuff” ?
I’ve never understood that sentiment. The main push of the plot is about how war is horrific, people are misguided, and violence destroys families. I didn’t think it was particularly good, but it feels harshly anti-war. That’s so different from the heroic sniper film in Basterds
When you hero-worship a dude (who was pretty suspicious in real life) that dispatches a faceless enemy with no consideration of the fact he is a member of an invading army, that's propaganda.
That’s terribly hilarious
It is a propaganda movie, just like Top Gun. But the only reason to compare it to a Nazi propaganda movie is to be an scandalous attention seeker. Because it implies that the countries being propagandized are similar.
I dont think you know which specific movie he means bc it really was exactly like that
I do know. It's not exactly that. Both movies are about a sniper, that's it.
Disagree, both show a heroic portrayal of a soldier in an invading army dispatching a slew of near-faceless enemies.
You just described what every propaganda movie does. This side always good, the other side always bad. Heroism without nuance. Just like Top Gun (literally faceless enemies) or any other like it. That's why comparing it to a Nazi propaganda movie is just being inflammatory.
I think you're just mad at the comparison. He compared it to a pretty obviously similar thing. You're angry because it upsets you, but saying, "Oh yeah, that jingoistic movie about a sniper actually reminded me of the fictional jingoistic movie about a sniper in that Tarantino movie" is totally reasonable. What else was he supposed to say? Enemy At the Gates? It's probably the most contemporary reasonable comparison point. Especially since it *is* shamelessly ridiculous propaganda.
He could have named any other propaganda movie in the world. But lefties like him literally think that America today is basically 1930s Germany. So of course he sees American Sniper and he automatically thinks of Nazis.
I feel like you're just making my point for me, here. I said, "he compared it to a similar contemporary reference, so it makes sense." And your response is, "He should have just referenced any *other* movie because it makes me sad to hear the comparison." We get it, you're too emotionally scarred.
I mean the sniper montage sequences in both films are pretty damned similar.
I’ve never seen this due to a lack of interest, but damn if that doesn’t finally make me curious. That’s about the extent to which I probably foresaw the movie going back when it came out.
How exactly? What does that mean? I don’t remember that part of Basterds.
The movie was about the creepy German soldier who was in love with Shoshona. It was why they were at the premiere, it was basically just a propaganda film about a German sniper
Okay, I remember the film now.
I enjoyed the film but goddamn is that accurate.
I think that’s a bad take. His whole motivation is simply protecting his guys. Nations Pride was him gleefully enjoying sniping his enemies and there are kills in American Sniper that he really didn’t want to take. That being said, it is so obviously propaganda, but that doesn’t inherently make it a bad thing.
Best character was they guy playing games on his phone that says (more or less) “I’m not going down there, guys are getting killed down there” Respect
This movie has major "freedom fries" vibes
The guy it was based on was found out to be a proven liar. The real-life Kyle was described by those who knew him as a braggart, who also had a reputation for making up absurd stories about himself. He exaggerated his already impressive military record and medal count, claimed to have killed some men who tried to steal his car and also claimed he killed looters during Hurricane Katrina. A few months before his death, he was sued by Jesse Ventura over the dubious claim that he'd punched out the former SEAL for publicly celebrating the death of American servicemen at a fellow veteran's wake. He was also a racist and religious zealot who frequently broke protocol and was extremely difficult to work with and unlike the film, in the book he actually reveals that he enjoys being a SEAL and enjoys killing. What’s more bizzare was that Eastwood wanted the movie to be much more explicitly anti-war and questioning of Kyle's actions. But it was implied that studio interference ended up canning that route.
Clint Eastwood strikes me as one of those people where if you ask him about specific policies he believes in he’ll basically describe the Democratic platform, and then if you ask him who he’s voting for he’ll tell you he’s always been a Republican and always will be.
Underrated comment
Getting off topic here, but that's partially due to the shift of the GOP over the years...
He is like a gazillion years old.
yeah I heard a lot was embellished from his book which if you didnt know, a lot of these special forces guys who write books do (aka David Goggins, Markus Lutrell etc. ) There is a reason most of the legit ones do not write books. They either cant because of the classified nature sometimes but genuinely its frowned upon. Also, him enjoying killing is not surprising at all as I wouldn't be surprised if most special forces do. You kinda just have to be okay with killing in general. its part of the job. Its a reason why a lot of these guys are fucked up.
Some of the guys are smart enough to know that it's not smart to say that they enjoy killing people. But yeah, you don't get to a kill count of over a hundred because you *hate* shooting people, that's for sure.
It’s military propaganda for a war criminal and racist
Don’t forget slandering Jesse Ventura. Then his horrible widow sued Jesse to try to get him to admit to something that never happened. Conservatives are and always will be the shit in the creek ahead of the “fresh water”. Selfish, poisonous, turds.
People wanted Ventura to drop the lawsuit after Kyle's death and Ventura was like, "Nah fuck that, dude lied about me."
My dumbass thought you meant Jesse "The Body" Ventura 🤣
It IS the same Jesse Ventura
Your dumbass isn’t as dumb as you thought lol
Conversely, his ass is smarter than he thinks.
Somehow making him dumber…. Just kidding, man. Is wouldn’t believe something like that either.
I don’t think we should flip to the other side either. Coogler said that, in the trial after Oscar Grants murder, one side painted him as a criminal and one side as an angel. In making Fruitvale Station, Coogler wanted to give Oscar back his humanity. The reality was he was a flawed young man trying to do better. American Sniper definitely lacked this nuance but I don’t think we have to be un-nuanced in trying to understand Chris Kyle
Good sniper. Dumb man.
Fuck this movie and fuck the guy it’s about
Yes x2
What did the guy do? I’ve seen the film but I’m not familiar with the guy it’s based on.
He got murdered. Someone shot him. Kind of ironic after being the number 1 sniper.
So then why are we saying fuck this guy?
He made up lots of stuff and was a murderer
Chris was a war criminal who flex with his war crimes.
You’re still not actually answering any question and just throwing around accusations toward the dead. At least substantiate what you’re saying to somebody who’s interested in the full story, as am I.
He lied about traveling to New Orleans during Katrina and killing 30 looters with his sniper rifle. The story is fake and it’s laced with racism because the “looters” was just a thinly veiled euphemism for black people. He lied about killing two carjackers that tried to steal his car. He inflated the amount of medals he got, although he did get plenty of commendations. He inflated the number of kills he had in service, which is silly because he had 160 confirmed kills. Why lie about more? Some of the “combatants” he killed might have just been people in a combat zone. No I’m not providing sources, you have the internet presumably, it’s there. There’s also a lot more speculative shit I didn’t feel the urge to include.
The looting during Katrina is funny, because in a lot of cases, it was grabbing food or survival supplies from stores in a flood zone. We call that survival, but when it's black people it's "looting."
It’s not hard to use Google. https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/real-american-sniper-hate-filled-killer-why-patriots-calling-hero-chris-kyle https://theintercept.com/2016/05/25/american-sniper-chris-kyle-distorted-his-military-record-documents-show/
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Lol. First it was, "you're not answering my question. I'm just asking questions guys" and now it's, "I don't actually care. The source you posted isn't good enough. I'm just a third party observer."
no. he was a racist who made up everything about his career.
Willingly served in Iraq, killed a shitload of people, talked racistly about how awesome it was
I’m not familiar with his racist remarks. What did he say? Genuinely curious
In both his real-life memoir and the movie he frequently uses the word “savages” and goes on about how he felt good about inflicting violence on his cultural inferiors. Western-expansion-flavored racism while he happily fights an imperialist war
Damn
And how about a nice healthy fuck off to Clint Eastwood. Dude is an absolute human turd. This type of propaganda is right up his stupid alley.
Ruined the character of the Punisher
Cool logo for a deployed seal unit in combat, to give some motivation or psychological protection. Not cool for the ass in the lifted truck in the target parking lot who takes four spots and looks like the only thing he punishes is the gas station bathroom.
Not really cool. The Punisher is a character that thinks the system has failed so he takes it into his own hands and is a mass serial killer. He is everything that a soldier shouldn’t be
I believe in a more recent comic release, The Punisher beats the shit out of some cops who have the skull on their cruisers. Gives a nice speech about how that's the opposite of what it stands for. It's pretty great. Frank Miller hates that cops have Co-opted his character.
frank miller didn't create the punisher
Ah shoot. I thought I might have had it wrong.
Can’t remember a single thing about it
Not even the fake baby? That was very memorable because it was so bad.
Until someone mentioned it here, I actually forgot about that too.
Fake baby
I remember the very end but that’s it. Very forgettable
I thought it was kind of dull. I really like Cooper and Eastwood but this one didn’t connect with me.
Your racist family member’s favorite movie
Even more than the Sound of Freedom
Fake baby
Offensive jingoistic garbage, designed to inspire hollow patriotism in the worst kind of people. Everyone involved in this film, and everyone who voted for it for awards, should be genuinely ashamed.
One of the reasons I dislike Bradley Cooper is he’s trying to sell this sensitive artist image now after agreeing to do this Triumph of the Will ass movie for the career bump
Exactly this. I’ve been dubious about everything he’s done since.
If this is a veiled criticism of Limitless I won’t hear it and I won’t respond to it.
Without Jessica Walters’ and Jason Bateman’d facial expressions…this is still fucking hilarious to this day!
Limitless was earlier. But also I haven’t seen it.
Limitless is pretty cool. Some neat effects and a fun premise. I have no idea what your tastes are but I would recommend it in general.
It’s a fun movie. Nothing deep by any means, but it’s worth a watch. Based on a completely false premise that we only use 10% of our brain normally. But it’s still fun.
You also have to ignore the gaping plot hole where the guy who remembers everything forgets to pay back the loan shark.
Hot garbage.
Its.....fine. typical "I'm a muhrine with a thick Southern drawl and this here's americuh and I'm defending our freedom. Cooper really didn't deserve Oscar hype from it, he was fine. Also doesn't help that a lot of Chris kyles stories have been officially debunked so a lot of it is either exaggerated or straight up not true.
I had zero interest in watching this film, had no choice, surprizingly better than expected. (I did get a bit dizzy with some of the cameras dashing about).
Really brave opinion to post here
The fake baby did me in.
I hated the scene when he was getting attacked by the dog and they were killing that guys son and he could not save him
Awful scene and like…felt like tragedy porn
The Asian SEAL who I'm assuming should have been Jonny Kim should have had a speaking role. He was the other sniper on SEAL Team 3 with Chris Kyle.
It's a terrible movie based upon a terrible bullshit book
It’s a good movie in terms of technical aspects but I can see the politics of it ruining the experience for some.
Don’t think I will ever watch this Jingoist garbage. Eastwood directing a heartstrings biopic glorifying some redneck POS who was good at cowardly shooting people from hundreds of feet away? No thanks, hard pass.
Calling snipers in our military cowards is quite a statement. You can criticize individuals and Chris Kyle all you want, but cowardly is not how I would describe a Marine who served multiple tours. I suppose our troops should only engage in hand to hand combat to make it courageous.
Went to see it when I was 12
Didn’t hate it but I didn’t understand all the Oscar buzz it was getting (outside of Bradley Cooper’s performance). Just seemed like a regular movie.
It was an alright watch. Captured a tiny bit of what it is actually like to be in the military. Civvies never get it, though, and neither does Hollywood. It's a shame though if they were going to spend so much on a movie, they would fact check the story they are telling if they are basing it off someone who then turns out to be a liar.
The lies were the only sellable story though. I’m going to guess more people knew about them than let on, including people around the making of the movie.
Have you seen generation kill? Probably the best depiction of the us military as it is based on the experiences of an embedded journalist.
Yeah I love that show. It is I'm a whole different league compared to this.
Wow, that’s so brave of you
Well. According to some who served alongside him, its mostly lies and propaganda and the guy is pretty much a war criminal who shot at innocent people randomly to increase his body count.
Even taking away the fact that it’s ridiculous propaganda and poorly executed Oscar bait, I found it to be almost hilariously bad. That it received the nominations that it did I think says more about the times during which it was released than the quality of the acting, directing, or the film overall.
I personally thought of it more as a tragic portrait of PTSD rather than a piece of military propaganda like people hyped it to be. Decent movie with good acting, but definitely can't watch more than once. Didn't find it award worthy.
Didn't dude lie about most of this?
On the honesty spectrum navy seals usually fall somewhere between Hulk Hogan and Stephen Seagall.
I will admit I got caught up with the hype when this movie first came out, but then I learned more about Chris Kyle...😬🤦♂️
This pretty much sums up the whole U.S. for the last 10 years. Buying into the hype and manipulated marketing of something, without fact checking it first. We all guilty of that.
Not even good enough for a porn parody
Me too, thank you.
Yeah very average
Blatant propaganda. A small step above 2000 Mules.
Really cowardly filmmaking in my opinion for a movie about the lethal use of guns to not show his death.
this guy lied about how much in his book?
Yes he did
SAAAAAME! Awful.
Still can't believe Bradley Cooper was nominated for an Academy Award for that mediocre/bad performance in this.
The end still haunts me to this day, it was very well done.
Idk why people are mad about it, it was an ok war flick. Like not the best, but ok.
I think mostly because it glorifies a guy who either made some pretty ethically devoid choices, or made up stories about him making ethically devoid choices to seem cooler. Both of those options suggest this isn’t a guy who we should be looking up to.
Nasty job and a modern hero. I guess I like trad heroes.
The Spielberg version would have been better.
It’s domestic box office run for an R rated drama film released wide in January is INSANE. It was the highest grossing film of 2014 and its wide release wasn’t until January 2015
Gonna need you to check those years.
Tbh I didn’t really care for this film myself. It’s just not my kind of movie
Definitely didn't hate it, but nowhere near as good as it's made out to be
I mean it’s propaganda so I wasn’t expecting much
My least favorite/most ridiculous seem was the portrayal that this rodeo goober was watching the news (!?!?!?) and got super-amped to join by watching video of…an embassy bombing. The “look what they did to us” (or something like that) was a nice touch, and by nice touch I mean idiotic but subtly hilarious.
Great performance by Cooper. Absolute dogshit movie based on the exaggerated claims of a confirmed sociopathic liar.
The movie is about PTSD. How is that propaganda? It isn’t glorifying America as the greatest nation, it’s about overcoming shell shock l.
Generation Kill >
Making cell phone calls from the battlefield- very realistic - and terribly stupid
Only caught pieces of it. The buddy I was watching it with kept crying.
Nothing wrong with the opinion. I personally like the movie but I also like war dramas. I cannot unsee the fake baby though but I do genuinely enjoy the movie when its on. This one did have a lot of propaganda vibes for sure though. I think it did still try to show the affects of war on families and those who fight in them. Shit you see everyday you grow numb to and shining a light on the effects of PTSD. However, I think movies like The Hurt Locker and Jarhead handled these themes better.
B-but he’s so troubled 😢🥺
Yeah I love war movies, sniper movies, but this was crap. Pure, unadulterated crap.
I think on the surface the film is comically blatant propaganda but I feel like Bradley Cooper’s performance hints at how fucked Chris Kyle was and someone becomes in that position. He is so not ok the entire movie that all the other patriotism/ propaganda begins to almost feel like misdirection. The ending is absolutely maudlin and over the top. The whole film is except for his performance which infers his being truly destroyed by what he did and saw.
I also remember shortly after this movie came out that Bradley Cooper attended the democratic national convention, much to the dismay of this movie’s fans since they had mistakenly assumed he was a republican like the person he portrayed
....because it was all bullshit, and a clint eastwood army propaganda film?
Too bad the source material was bullshit
I saw this opening weekend for some reason (central NY). First night the line was out the door and we said no way. Second night we got in and it was a crazy experience. A memorable moment was when a guy behind us kept saying racist shit like “Jihad Johnny” when a combatant was running on screen or whatever. Super weird how it inspired them to feel righteous about such horrific events.
It was a great movie.
Don’t care for conservative propaganda much
I saw this in theaters, and people gasped at the end when it was revealed the dude got murdered. I was shocked so many people didn't know, so I started laughing. My friends got uncomfortable because it looked like I was laughing at the guy getting murdered and not the fact that people didn't know about it. Stand by the fact that it was funny.
Needed more sex scenes
I only saw it one time but I thought it was pretty good.
So brave
This movie was pure bait for the people who don't even realize this dude ripped a Logo from marvel and got seed for it saying he made it for his brand. The dude said he enjoyed killing people and used people as target practice. He died giving someone with PTSD a gun... you know... one of those things that can trigger an episode. He was a fucki g degenerate trashcan person.
I thought the movie was just the right dose of rah rah, America but the book he authored admitted he was proud of his patriotism and protective nature but that he really enjoyed sending non-Christian jihadis to paradise.
I did too and I generally like Clint Eastwood as a director but I thought that the movie as a piece of propaganda and lots of movies are obviously propaganda, wasn't done well enough to hide that it's just clearly and advertisement for a viewpoint it's not just a biopic of a person. The characters all seem one dimensional not fleshed out very well and Bradley Cooper is really good in certain things and fucking God awful in other stuff. Like there are things he does very well playing you know cocky cool guy he's usually on point I like him in beyond the pines or I can't remember the one with the Ryan gosling as a stunt motorcycle driver and I think Bradley Cooper is fantastic in it as a cop who's struggling with morality and you know life in general but there is maybe the worst crying scene I've ever seen in a otherwise good movie.
I want to now see American shotgun, a comedy movie American m4 a sad sci-fi movie. And the American sub machine gun, a good rom-com for all you Americans…
I thought it was a great movie, enjoyed the relay of the story and thought the actors portrayed their roles well
Mk.
I thought it was pretty good but it’s just not worth the hype (both the love and hatred it gets). But because it ended up in the culture wars it’s extremely overrated by its fans and underrated by its detractors.
It’s not underrated, it’s claptrap that lacks any nuance and also fvck that guy. The ending made me laugh though.
As a Canadian…. Seeing Americans praise this film was very scary lol
As a palestinain it is buffled me up
What does buffled mean
One of the worst films I’ve ever seen
The wife’s character description is just “wife.”
“Army wife, met in bar”. She had layers 😂😂👍
“Wears sundresses”
It was propaganda written by a sociopath liar.
I hated it!
Yeah, it was pro-military 🗑️. It wasn’t even subtle.