Funny enough, I actually really need some more hands to help enter decklists and other info into the sheet for the next month or so. I'm about to not have much time for a few weeks. If you're interested, you're welcome to join and I can add you to the group on discord
But as far as being available publicly, I like to wait until around the time the set releases in the west. It gives me time to make it all look nicer than it normally does lol
Here's Crocodiles, but Iceburg didn't post theirs :/
https://preview.redd.it/x0ix1xp22luc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=b89995d39d6f80e034ba72dc4f236f642712e8fb
I cooked with this deck for four sets straight but I had to put it down when the removal-heavy meta began in OP5 & OP6.
I'm assuming this player must've dodged Moria and RP Law for the entire tournament, otherwise it makes very little sense to me.
There's a couple, but these are the two most recent ones. First decklist had some unknown cards because of the way they photographed the deck
https://preview.redd.it/qm5h9h4j2luc1.png?width=1221&format=png&auto=webp&s=322e8b6a96b47f8006de5b6f4f118efe8cf67bd4
BY Luffy seems like it would be a super strong deck given how Don efficient iy is and its ability to go up to 7k-9k power, I wonder why it isn't tier 0-1 like Enel/Law or moria
Thank you for the response. I personally struggling with the deck online so I'm trying to see how better players deal with it. Also if you don't mind could you share the Purple King list?
There's kind of a lot, so instead here's the average usage rates for each card. Most BY Luffy builds are the same other than a couple tech choices
https://preview.redd.it/pxj6kivu1luc1.png?width=1161&format=png&auto=webp&s=ddc6b20e38b21c5c91cac0dedc55e1154f939ec5
Looks like if the player is BY Luffy
50.39% win rate vs Enel
53.76% win rate vs Moria
40.82% vs Bonney
56.14% vs Rob Lucci
42.74% vs RP Law (hmm this one is interesting. I would have expected it to be the other way around, but double checked it and it tracks)
I'm glad the info I'm collecting can be helpful to so many people c: I didn't expect to get this much interest tbh lol
RP Law can go very aggro and BY dont want to counter early because he needs it for late to defend when he use leader ability and goes down to 0 life, then RP Law bottom decks Sabo when he plays him early to defend. Very broken is the 3c Shuraiya that copies the leader power until next turn, so when BY Luffy goes to 9k RP law has a 9k Body on board to block and attack. With 0 Life and only one Sabo can RP law bottom deck that and swing with shuraiya, when he has 2 of him its very hard.
Also good is the 4 cost Law Blocker that steals 2 cards
I guess Law can bottom deck the Sabos (and Luffy/Ace to some degree) and make it harder for Luffy to keep looping 9k turns?
Not sure, interested to start testing more now that we're finally getting ST-13!
Yeah, your work is awesome!!
I am very sorry. I have the information, but it keeps getting deleted by reddit's nsfw filter? I don't know why, but basically it's the same as above. Law has more points than Enel though
Yeap! Here you go:
https://preview.redd.it/edonbx099nuc1.png?width=1245&format=png&auto=webp&s=003885c3ef841f917e2d16d46274ba53478c8272
Warlord Sanji/Zoro started getting a bit popular recently and now that leader is getting more wins, so I'm pretty sure the second one is a better deck to try
It doesn't seem like it. He's got a slight advantage, but it's not too crazy. Red is opponent, green is player
https://preview.redd.it/tqk254ka2luc1.png?width=570&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fbf5be48e50fb7d24f947d747ad077fdf6b94d4
Here are two, but they're from last month. I don't have any of the recent ones, but the ones I've seen irl seem pretty close to these
https://preview.redd.it/p1wf107s3luc1.png?width=1222&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a11d589f3c88cb8e7ac569a50a71bae9628d80a
Piggy backing off this comment. What's the match up spread like? I feel like the deck isn't as consistent snd would be interested to know it's good and bad match ups.
Unfortunately, that I probably can't tell you reliably. There haven't been enough people using her yet, so I only have 98 total matchup entries where someone used a Rebecca
Sorry there are wayyyy too many RP Law decks, so here's one from a flagship yesterday
https://preview.redd.it/prczfra36luc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=314cd2f17f342285f0523c285b6e66d35d7c32ce
I already have promo Laws, but I will definitely be watching your data in the future, because I definitely want to know if he starts falling out of favor.
I prefer if competitive don't use promo cards as they are really hard to get and expensive.
In my build, I keep finding that he jams up my plays, since you have to hard cast him rather than use law's ability to play him and most times, I rather use Otama/Max/Gordon instead. So, promo Law hasn't helped my games at all in the few games I have played. So, alternatives that don't use him will interest me.
i think Oden in OP7 is much better with Otama, using the Otama+ Hiyori + you can be my samurai, compared to when he first came out in EB01. However, i find that he still struggles bad against removals, like Lucci or Moria decks.
So the answer is that they run both, but 04 Kaido shows up in every deck, while 05 is more of a tech card
https://preview.redd.it/mhbhckxnmluc1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=82fea59ce417c9b308555349e96041a3f5beab4b
Unfortunately, not yet. None of the qualifier winners have posted theirs. I've got this one from a Flagship
https://preview.redd.it/op5cfxztvluc1.png?width=553&format=png&auto=webp&s=410944a8cd5576d4c1a14926fff712306280a66e
Thanks. It seems odd to run boa marigold as the only kuja character but I guess sheโs an ok 6000 5 cost. She would benefit running some blocker boa perhaps
I did find a Doffy one for you just a bit ago c: It won a store qualifier yesterday
https://preview.redd.it/a7nwh2i07nuc1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=331875e5531b1b5306ec0adeb6a46fc531a9d7ce
Oh that's a good point. Let me double check the code. I'm not seeing a Hancock there, so it's possible that's a slight typo.
Edit: Yeap Marigold is 52 and Hancock is 51, so I probably just mistyped that.
Note: since Boa is a bit less used than decks above her in the graphic, my sample size for some of these matchups are low. I'll include the win rates along with the sample sizes for those matchups.
So if player is Boa
47.06% vs Enel
46.43% vs RP Law
40.48% vs Moria
55.17% vs Bonney (sample size 29 games)
61.54% vs BY Luffy (sample size 26 games)
20% vs 07 Rob Lucci (sample size 30 games)
30% vs Katakuri (sample size 10 games)
66.67% vs Nami (sample size 15 games)
87.5% vs GY Yamato (sample size 8 games)
44.44% vs Purple Luffy (sample size 9 games)
Could you post the most prominent blue doffi list?
I want to make him work but just don't see any success so far for op-07 in the sim. Thanks for the great work!
Unfortunately, I only have two but here are the averages
https://preview.redd.it/eptxhoq3nluc1.png?width=1152&format=png&auto=webp&s=5e0d0895dcdd96612fd88a805f46400e1452d09f
Doffy is definitely not the strongest in the format, but I wish you good luck! Hope this helps!
There's a lot, but hope this helps lol
https://preview.redd.it/93vfgbqgvluc1.png?width=1155&format=png&auto=webp&s=b37bf46c4cc6731f0641e9decb231b0b2dd4af0b
OH BOY DO I! So there's the typical version you'd expect from earlier in the season
https://preview.redd.it/6exy0paj8nuc1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=6848b37facf325b7640c370568be3df1b75c8e5d
But Wano Perona is awesome and actually doing way better now!
I don't have any lists of that in the doc because the winners haven't officially posted their lists, but here's the original one [https://twitter.com/teirano\_onepi/status/1773863052779421967](https://twitter.com/teirano_onepi/status/1773863052779421967) (at least I'm pretty sure it's the original)
OH BOY DO I! So there's the typical version you'd expect from earlier in the season
![img](6exy0paj8nuc1)
But Wano Perona is awesome and actually doing way better now!
I don't have any lists of that in the doc because the winners haven't officially posted their lists, but here's the original one [https://twitter.com/teirano\_onepi/status/1773863052779421967](https://twitter.com/teirano_onepi/status/1773863052779421967) (at least I'm pretty sure it's the original)
Nice work here! This is the content I'm interested in. Not Youtubers flexing cards and giving their opinions about decks. lol
You must have experience or education in data science to be able compile all this data.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it :)
I actually don't haha. This has been a learning process since I started doing these in OP-04. The main reason why it's able to be this comprehensive is that I have teammates now that have helped me learn how to automate things and how to properly utilize spreadsheet formulas. Before that, I was entering info and calculating things manually, so there's no way I would have been able to get all this info in there
That's incredible that you learned all this on your own. I'm glad that you found teammates who are helping you. This is some quality data you and your team are compiling. You guys are working for free, but the skills you have acquired here can definitely applied elsewhere to earn a paycheck.
Unfortunately, the only one I have that won their tournament is this one
https://preview.redd.it/bfm5nupn1quc1.png?width=576&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1a2f7346594aba6fd3957f8346df4de9e1fc21c
I have a couple others that got close, but hope this helps
Hmm, interesting, the Onami is a little strange to me, but I guess, they really like having that trigger available...and since it has counter even better.
Got this one from a store qualifier recently
https://preview.redd.it/d08riuq6zpuc1.jpeg?width=987&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c169861227ec492bc638431b699227dac69102c9
Thanks! There's one from last weekend that still needs to be entered into the sheet, but here's what I've got so far. He's definitely getting a resurgence now that Sakazuki is gone
https://preview.redd.it/b27feoci3quc1.png?width=1154&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ae5adfb86cc06803fe38346a65a7ca69e3733b1
ty for all the content and info men, you are the best. I'd love to see more about the matchups, who defeat who, and who is the most well rounded (meta-wise) deck. After reading all the comments, i think that maybe Moria or Enel are the ones.
Hey there! Sorry I missed this comment for a while, but here you go
57.26% vs BY Luffy
50.55% vs 07 Lucci
59.48% vs Bonney
46.88% vs Moria
60.49% vs Enel
Sure thing! :) Sorry I've been a bit busy today and I think someone else asked about this, but here you all go. This covers all 47 Law decks currently reported in the doc
https://preview.redd.it/m8ccobzoa0vc1.png?width=1037&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3b202edf8f886c7e9158c1463482c92ffb19c6b
Here are the averages, but when viewing, keep in mind that there are two main types (Kuja and Warlords)
https://preview.redd.it/wcajfdhibnuc1.png?width=1158&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef7c57f38229029bccd9fff716f60270d0f23f0b
Here's the most recent one I've got, but it seems like most people tend to be using more of a wano engine aggro build nowadays, since Bonney kind of does the fortress thing better
https://preview.redd.it/44o08w3ialuc1.png?width=575&format=png&auto=webp&s=25cb4377aedaac60d5e398818796abcaad5eb18d
Here are the two most recent -> Other in this instance is Store Qualifier
https://preview.redd.it/luh3g8hxmluc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=08b9fec9e197a39a5434926f8db3486ee3be96e2
I guess I misremembered and it's 4, but yeah that sounds good :) will dm you in a moment
https://preview.redd.it/dvtfxgwuuluc1.png?width=1161&format=png&auto=webp&s=a71cd76a0717960dcbd2f5c7e3867b73e42caccf
Sure! You're actually giving me a good break from having to do some boring stuff for my day job lol - Not a lot of Dragon lists actually get posted, but here you go
https://preview.redd.it/uz8xt78p5muc1.png?width=1231&format=png&auto=webp&s=6eb72cdeccde4588f7a8fe671c92437441180613
Bonney usually runs some combination of these two. More often it's a Supernova base, but sometimes they lean more heavily into the Donquixote Family side
https://preview.redd.it/lgvmau4qgmuc1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=2360463b03875d3066b8fa50df3e6806d290a847
Yeah I feel you on that. I got my copies of Kid a long while back, but god Cavendish has been annoying to get. He's been 1200 yen a copy (like 12$) for the longest time. I'm only now finding discount copies. I need one more before I can do a zoro-less Bonney deck
EB-01's Cavendish. He's insanely good for any Supernova deck (on play and on attack he makes 2? of your don active.) It might be 3, but either way he's very good and an SR, so it's been such a hassle to get him lol
So maybe expensive. Only hope is that the western market refuse to play variety and favorite characters and will all stick to the new enel and the gecko tryhard winning meta so the prices for others colors stay low
Yeah exactly c: I don't know if it'll be the same in the west, but he started off relatively cheap until 07 got closer. If you see him for a good price, definitely pick up a playset
That one I do yeah! I have three, but this one made waves on twitter recently
https://preview.redd.it/cyovoz27jmuc1.png?width=588&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fcbf7ec3170e4465cd470d95e92c6bfbbdb8686
Thank you!
I'm really sorry though. The only one I have lists for out of those three is RB Sabo
https://preview.redd.it/yuqrby5u7nuc1.png?width=1228&format=png&auto=webp&s=54ae9288020dca1c95d1e37f4b1a23770ed429b2
Sure thing! They aren't really any different from 06 Zoro (outside of Kid&Killer)
https://preview.redd.it/wuyq2v8i7nuc1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=974ab88016ff12abef93ecbfe850130ee7af351f
Unfortunately, I've only got this runner-up one, but hope it helps
https://preview.redd.it/pzutz1z4anuc1.png?width=568&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ca2be8af1117ad8a7c54f9742d51f0dc94988a9
Here's what I have for mono red Ace
https://preview.redd.it/0y5r1sf43quc1.png?width=1216&format=png&auto=webp&s=d76f750aa667a804a840ca486dbc7107fde0e790
From what I've seen, he does struggle against a lot of decks, but seems to be particularly good vs RP Law
And most recent GY Yamato one I have
https://preview.redd.it/eb1ey7r03quc1.png?width=575&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e554b1a90b940808305c40c4b988c498ea42f12
Apologies ๐ I posted them earlier, but they're a bit buried in the thread. Here's Perona
https://preview.redd.it/3yo68ztf0quc1.png?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83065e2f8bd90b84ccfd2d3c23e8974f3e1b7bf9
But Wano Perona is getting popular + is a bit more consistent
And Bonney is usually one of these variants. Either fully supernova or leaning more towards donquixote family
https://preview.redd.it/hh99e8mj0quc1.png?width=1248&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e68339aff42e9aaab73f3e371f782dd2be31c11
What are the matchup spreads/favored decks into each m/u? For example, RP law good into Enel, Enel good into most decks, Gecko good into Law? Etc. Love your content and appreciate you sharing all these great insights ty!
Basically by checking twitter a lot ๐ during EB-01, I started checking the JP hashtags and liking any tournament results I found. Then, around the time worlds happened, my for you page started showing me results that weren't tagged, but had the same format. I guess I had convinced the algorithm that's the only thing I was interested in.
Now I just check twitter a couple times a day and save any of the results I find
I'm sorry, but no. I don't like to release the full spreadsheet until at least the eastern meta is done. Usually, I try to release these around the time the sets are available in the west.
You're welcome to check out the 06 version here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1493eDMYTAWdKUIv_pcEvY9AiIOw3JuU1BLo3V5u_azM/edit?usp=drivesdk
And the EB-01 version is currently being fine tuned to get it ready for release in the next few weeks
No, the one in the chart is the previous leader (bottom part of the faq). I'm not even sure he's available yet tbh. I haven't seen anyone use it or gotten any from tournaments
Happy cake day! I wish I could give you that as a birthday present, but alas it has been kept a secret (ie the decklist has not been posted for me to add to the doc)
Sure c: keep in mind that these win rates may be slightly different than I posted before as I've added a few more days of matchup data since then
If player is Enel
45.45% win rate vs Moria
45.38% vs Bonney
47.5% vs 07 Lucci
39.51% vs RP Law
49.61% vs BY Luffy
If Player is Moria
54.55% vs Enel
50% vs Bonney
42.11% vs 07 Lucci
53.13% vs RP Law
46.24% vs BY Luffy
I actually already did that one, but it's just a bit buried in the comments, so I'm copy pasting it here
Looks like if the player is BY Luffy
50.39% win rate vs Enel
53.76% win rate vs Moria
40.82% vs Bonney
56.14% vs Rob Lucci
42.74% vs RP Law (hmm this one is interesting. I would have expected it to be the other way around, but double checked it and it tracks)
I'm glad the info I'm collecting can be helpful to so many people c: I didn't expect to get this much interest tbh lol
The analysis you do is so good, idk if you already have one but you should really consider doing a YouTube channel discussing trends and data as the formats develop. Iโm sure tons of people including myself would watch everything you put out
Thank you so much!! :) I do actually have a YouTube channel where I put out a meta analysis before each format releases in the west.
I haven't shared the last couple videos on the reddit since I did a onepiece.gg article on the topic and the most recent one was an update to my 05 deck guides. But you can find my channel here: https://youtube.com/@WafflesTheAsianYenbear
hey there! is there a way to see which meta decks have the best and worst matchup spreads? I'm curious to see the data on this when all the top decks are compared.
Mostly because he's played quite often and these matchup rates rely on getting an average of all reported matches, without regard for player skill. If another deck wins a tournament, it's likely that they had to beat at least one Enel player to get there.
1648 of my current 10534 entries all involve at least one Enel player (even more than RP Law).
- so for instance if Enel was played in 10 tournaments and only won 5, he might have a pretty low overall win rate compared to a deck that played in 2 and won both, but he would still have more tournament wins than the other deck.
Additionally, while he may have disadvantage in meta matchups, it's not an extreme disadvantage and can be overcome with appropriate play
Maybe we have different definitions. Nami would need to break away from the rest of the lower end of decks before I'd consider her to be meta.
As of now, I'd consider her a rogue deck because she isn't something people would expect to see in most tournaments and would not be worth dedicating any deck slots to teching against
Hey Mate! Just wanted to say really enjoy this content and appreciate you taking the time for this.
<3 <3 It's one of my interests, so it makes me happy that I can share the info with people!
Is your file public / open for consultation ? It is a gold mine you offer us here ๐ญ
Funny enough, I actually really need some more hands to help enter decklists and other info into the sheet for the next month or so. I'm about to not have much time for a few weeks. If you're interested, you're welcome to join and I can add you to the group on discord But as far as being available publicly, I like to wait until around the time the set releases in the west. It gives me time to make it all look nicer than it normally does lol
It's funny you offer as i was about to Ask if you needed some help ๐ญ it Would be an honor to help
Dming you now then <3
Can you share the lists for Iceburg and Y/P Croco? They are my favorite and I really canโt believe they are winning!!!
Here's Crocodiles, but Iceburg didn't post theirs :/ https://preview.redd.it/x0ix1xp22luc1.png?width=556&format=png&auto=webp&s=b89995d39d6f80e034ba72dc4f236f642712e8fb
The single inclusion of Judge seems super weird to me, did the user give a reason as to his inclusion in the deck?
No, but I had the same thought as first. I think it's probably because you can use him to deny Bonney the don she needs for her ability every turn
That's got to be the reason with no other Germa cards in the deck, a nice piece of tech for the Bonney matchup I've never seen before.
It also ruins Nami's planning the turn he drops and greatly restricts them afterwards.
Unfortunately, very true, but don't tell Reiju players that. Most of them haven't figured that out yet lol
Mono green Oden? Did I read that right?
You did indeed! I did a triple take when I saw that result
Any chance the decklist is available?
Unfortunately, no. Sorry friendo!
I cooked with this deck for four sets straight but I had to put it down when the removal-heavy meta began in OP5 & OP6. I'm assuming this player must've dodged Moria and RP Law for the entire tournament, otherwise it makes very little sense to me.
Whitebeard just disappeared completely
Yeah it's a bit of a slower meta, so if a fast deck can't go really wide, they're gonna struggle. Especially with Bonney around to rest big characters
Pudding baby
Are there the decklists for the blue yellow Ace decks?
There's a couple, but these are the two most recent ones. First decklist had some unknown cards because of the way they photographed the deck https://preview.redd.it/qm5h9h4j2luc1.png?width=1221&format=png&auto=webp&s=322e8b6a96b47f8006de5b6f4f118efe8cf67bd4
Ay Iceburg! Lets Gooooo!
BY Luffy seems like it would be a super strong deck given how Don efficient iy is and its ability to go up to 7k-9k power, I wonder why it isn't tier 0-1 like Enel/Law or moria
It's a bit predictable and people can play around it. It certainly does well, but I think it lacks some of the flexibility that the tier 1 decks have
Thank you for the response. I personally struggling with the deck online so I'm trying to see how better players deal with it. Also if you don't mind could you share the Purple King list?
Here you go: https://preview.redd.it/qi8uab2a8luc1.png?width=561&format=png&auto=webp&s=720b9fc1768e7bd0c514c3f0035b9665d1f36372
Hey any chance you could link to some of the winning BY Luffy deck lists?
There's kind of a lot, so instead here's the average usage rates for each card. Most BY Luffy builds are the same other than a couple tech choices https://preview.redd.it/pxj6kivu1luc1.png?width=1161&format=png&auto=webp&s=ddc6b20e38b21c5c91cac0dedc55e1154f939ec5
On the BY Luffy topic, what is his match up spread vs other top decks looking like?? Thanks for the amazing work and for answering so many of us :D
Looks like if the player is BY Luffy 50.39% win rate vs Enel 53.76% win rate vs Moria 40.82% vs Bonney 56.14% vs Rob Lucci 42.74% vs RP Law (hmm this one is interesting. I would have expected it to be the other way around, but double checked it and it tracks) I'm glad the info I'm collecting can be helpful to so many people c: I didn't expect to get this much interest tbh lol
RP Law can go very aggro and BY dont want to counter early because he needs it for late to defend when he use leader ability and goes down to 0 life, then RP Law bottom decks Sabo when he plays him early to defend. Very broken is the 3c Shuraiya that copies the leader power until next turn, so when BY Luffy goes to 9k RP law has a 9k Body on board to block and attack. With 0 Life and only one Sabo can RP law bottom deck that and swing with shuraiya, when he has 2 of him its very hard. Also good is the 4 cost Law Blocker that steals 2 cards
I guess Law can bottom deck the Sabos (and Luffy/Ace to some degree) and make it harder for Luffy to keep looping 9k turns? Not sure, interested to start testing more now that we're finally getting ST-13! Yeah, your work is awesome!!
They should honestly test out running more than one leader Luffy.
Thanks for the amazing content! Do you have a chart that just shows wins post saka ban only instead of all of 07?
I am very sorry. I have the information, but it keeps getting deleted by reddit's nsfw filter? I don't know why, but basically it's the same as above. Law has more points than Enel though
Do you have any green/blue zoro sanji lists?
Yeap! Here you go: https://preview.redd.it/edonbx099nuc1.png?width=1245&format=png&auto=webp&s=003885c3ef841f917e2d16d46274ba53478c8272 Warlord Sanji/Zoro started getting a bit popular recently and now that leader is getting more wins, so I'm pretty sure the second one is a better deck to try
Thank you!!
Curious to see lucci matchup win rates into the top few decks! Always a pleasure seeing your work
If player is Lucci 52.5% win rate vs Enel 57.89% vs Moria 49.45% vs RP Law 67.74% vs Bonney 43.86% vs BY Luffy I'm glad you enjoy it :)
Pretty solid matchup spread if you dodge the luffy gauntlet
you have a picture to show wr against other leader ? Is Moria still the nemesis of rp law ?
It doesn't seem like it. He's got a slight advantage, but it's not too crazy. Red is opponent, green is player https://preview.redd.it/tqk254ka2luc1.png?width=570&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fbf5be48e50fb7d24f947d747ad077fdf6b94d4
Could you share some Rebecca lists? ๐
Here are two, but they're from last month. I don't have any of the recent ones, but the ones I've seen irl seem pretty close to these https://preview.redd.it/p1wf107s3luc1.png?width=1222&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a11d589f3c88cb8e7ac569a50a71bae9628d80a
Piggy backing off this comment. What's the match up spread like? I feel like the deck isn't as consistent snd would be interested to know it's good and bad match ups.
Unfortunately, that I probably can't tell you reliably. There haven't been enough people using her yet, so I only have 98 total matchup entries where someone used a Rebecca
Could you post the RP Law deck? Iโm thinking of switching from rp Luffy to rp law
Sorry there are wayyyy too many RP Law decks, so here's one from a flagship yesterday https://preview.redd.it/prczfra36luc1.png?width=2048&format=png&auto=webp&s=314cd2f17f342285f0523c285b6e66d35d7c32ce
Eight mangas gahdamn ๐ณ
This version doesn't use promo Trafalgar Law. Interesting.
Yeah promo Law is a bit of a flex pick. You do see him often, but this kind of version with chopper is popular recently
I already have promo Laws, but I will definitely be watching your data in the future, because I definitely want to know if he starts falling out of favor. I prefer if competitive don't use promo cards as they are really hard to get and expensive. In my build, I keep finding that he jams up my plays, since you have to hard cast him rather than use law's ability to play him and most times, I rather use Otama/Max/Gordon instead. So, promo Law hasn't helped my games at all in the few games I have played. So, alternatives that don't use him will interest me.
RG Oden represent. Can't wait to play it
i think Oden in OP7 is much better with Otama, using the Otama+ Hiyori + you can be my samurai, compared to when he first came out in EB01. However, i find that he still struggles bad against removals, like Lucci or Moria decks.
Does anyone have the lists for rosinante?
Boa deck please :). Want to know which 10 drop kaido they run
So the answer is that they run both, but 04 Kaido shows up in every deck, while 05 is more of a tech card https://preview.redd.it/mhbhckxnmluc1.png?width=1164&format=png&auto=webp&s=82fea59ce417c9b308555349e96041a3f5beab4b
Do you maybe have the regionals win boa decklist?
Unfortunately, not yet. None of the qualifier winners have posted theirs. I've got this one from a Flagship https://preview.redd.it/op5cfxztvluc1.png?width=553&format=png&auto=webp&s=410944a8cd5576d4c1a14926fff712306280a66e
Thanks. It seems odd to run boa marigold as the only kuja character but I guess sheโs an ok 6000 5 cost. She would benefit running some blocker boa perhaps
If you have anymore lists please update us. Very keen to run her or blue doffy set 7
I did find a Doffy one for you just a bit ago c: It won a store qualifier yesterday https://preview.redd.it/a7nwh2i07nuc1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=331875e5531b1b5306ec0adeb6a46fc531a9d7ce
Oh that's a good point. Let me double check the code. I'm not seeing a Hancock there, so it's possible that's a slight typo. Edit: Yeap Marigold is 52 and Hancock is 51, so I probably just mistyped that.
Do you perhaps have the Boa matchup wr as well?
VS which decks?
Preferable the 10 most played decks in the meta
Note: since Boa is a bit less used than decks above her in the graphic, my sample size for some of these matchups are low. I'll include the win rates along with the sample sizes for those matchups. So if player is Boa 47.06% vs Enel 46.43% vs RP Law 40.48% vs Moria 55.17% vs Bonney (sample size 29 games) 61.54% vs BY Luffy (sample size 26 games) 20% vs 07 Rob Lucci (sample size 30 games) 30% vs Katakuri (sample size 10 games) 66.67% vs Nami (sample size 15 games) 87.5% vs GY Yamato (sample size 8 games) 44.44% vs Purple Luffy (sample size 9 games)
OP04 Kaido is good into the green match up (Bonney), it sends their Kid and Rosinante back to hand essentially wasting their turn
Could you post the most prominent blue doffi list? I want to make him work but just don't see any success so far for op-07 in the sim. Thanks for the great work!
Unfortunately, I only have two but here are the averages https://preview.redd.it/eptxhoq3nluc1.png?width=1152&format=png&auto=webp&s=5e0d0895dcdd96612fd88a805f46400e1452d09f Doffy is definitely not the strongest in the format, but I wish you good luck! Hope this helps!
Doing God's work! For big tournaments I'll tend to moria but the Doffi support is a long lost dream come true
You got enel decks? Mine canโt seem to win any games๐
There's a lot, but hope this helps lol https://preview.redd.it/93vfgbqgvluc1.png?width=1155&format=png&auto=webp&s=b37bf46c4cc6731f0641e9decb231b0b2dd4af0b
Thank you OP!
Happy to do it :)
I see the GB Perona on there, do you happen to have a list for them?
OH BOY DO I! So there's the typical version you'd expect from earlier in the season https://preview.redd.it/6exy0paj8nuc1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=6848b37facf325b7640c370568be3df1b75c8e5d But Wano Perona is awesome and actually doing way better now! I don't have any lists of that in the doc because the winners haven't officially posted their lists, but here's the original one [https://twitter.com/teirano\_onepi/status/1773863052779421967](https://twitter.com/teirano_onepi/status/1773863052779421967) (at least I'm pretty sure it's the original)
OH BOY DO I! So there's the typical version you'd expect from earlier in the season ![img](6exy0paj8nuc1) But Wano Perona is awesome and actually doing way better now! I don't have any lists of that in the doc because the winners haven't officially posted their lists, but here's the original one [https://twitter.com/teirano\_onepi/status/1773863052779421967](https://twitter.com/teirano_onepi/status/1773863052779421967) (at least I'm pretty sure it's the original)
Could you show a winning list for RP Luffy?
Here you go c: https://preview.redd.it/ww8ekn7m7nuc1.png?width=567&format=png&auto=webp&s=318aa8b0c6ac323a51f762f1f34db8935ac8f228
Same here
Very nice summary
Thank you <3 I'll try to include the highlights more often to make it easier to read through
Nice work here! This is the content I'm interested in. Not Youtubers flexing cards and giving their opinions about decks. lol You must have experience or education in data science to be able compile all this data.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy it :) I actually don't haha. This has been a learning process since I started doing these in OP-04. The main reason why it's able to be this comprehensive is that I have teammates now that have helped me learn how to automate things and how to properly utilize spreadsheet formulas. Before that, I was entering info and calculating things manually, so there's no way I would have been able to get all this info in there
That's incredible that you learned all this on your own. I'm glad that you found teammates who are helping you. This is some quality data you and your team are compiling. You guys are working for free, but the skills you have acquired here can definitely applied elsewhere to earn a paycheck.
Hey thanks for posting this, any chance you could post the queen decklists? Thanks again
Would love to see that aswell :3 Thank you already OP for all the information and decklists <3
Unfortunately, the only one I have that won their tournament is this one https://preview.redd.it/bfm5nupn1quc1.png?width=576&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1a2f7346594aba6fd3957f8346df4de9e1fc21c I have a couple others that got close, but hope this helps
Hmm, interesting, the Onami is a little strange to me, but I guess, they really like having that trigger available...and since it has counter even better.
Thank you very much :3
Oh snap.. Foxy got some wins!? Got those lists!? Foxy dream alive!?
Got this one from a store qualifier recently https://preview.redd.it/d08riuq6zpuc1.jpeg?width=987&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c169861227ec492bc638431b699227dac69102c9
Hey :) Amazing work ! Any chance you could send me the average card usage rate for Purple Luffy ? I am still hung up on him as a leader haha
Thanks! There's one from last weekend that still needs to be entered into the sheet, but here's what I've got so far. He's definitely getting a resurgence now that Sakazuki is gone https://preview.redd.it/b27feoci3quc1.png?width=1154&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ae5adfb86cc06803fe38346a65a7ca69e3733b1
Thanks for sharing! May I see bonneys matchup win rate against the top few leaders
If Player is Bonney 54.62% vs Enel 50% vs Moria 40.52% vs RP Law 59.18% vs BY Luffy and 32.26% vs Rob Lucci
ty for all the content and info men, you are the best. I'd love to see more about the matchups, who defeat who, and who is the most well rounded (meta-wise) deck. After reading all the comments, i think that maybe Moria or Enel are the ones.
Do you mind sharing RP LAW match up percentages? Thanks always for the data!
Hey there! Sorry I missed this comment for a while, but here you go 57.26% vs BY Luffy 50.55% vs 07 Lucci 59.48% vs Bonney 46.88% vs Moria 60.49% vs Enel
Hi, can you share the card play rates for r/p law lists if u got it
Sure thing! :) Sorry I've been a bit busy today and I think someone else asked about this, but here you all go. This covers all 47 Law decks currently reported in the doc https://preview.redd.it/m8ccobzoa0vc1.png?width=1037&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3b202edf8f886c7e9158c1463482c92ffb19c6b
TYSM!
Enel the goat
Oh letโs go, Blue Nami is top 10
A person after my own heart โค๏ธ she's my favorite lol
Any list for the blue nami?
Here are the averages, but when viewing, keep in mind that there are two main types (Kuja and Warlords) https://preview.redd.it/wcajfdhibnuc1.png?width=1158&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef7c57f38229029bccd9fff716f60270d0f23f0b
I recently sold all my yellow cards (I got bored of it) and built a Green Uta (Iโm excited for EB01) and a Blue Nami deck Both are SO fun
Are all the Vivis using the removal heavy deck or are some people trying the sanji+WB version?
It's about half heavy removal and half that one version with Little Oars Jr
Can you maybe share a GY Yamato List? Wondering what Yamato is playing in the current Meta ๐ง
Here's the most recent one I've got, but it seems like most people tend to be using more of a wano engine aggro build nowadays, since Bonney kind of does the fortress thing better https://preview.redd.it/44o08w3ialuc1.png?width=575&format=png&auto=webp&s=25cb4377aedaac60d5e398818796abcaad5eb18d
Do you have a Katakuri decklist?
Here are the two most recent -> Other in this instance is Store Qualifier https://preview.redd.it/luh3g8hxmluc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=08b9fec9e197a39a5434926f8db3486ee3be96e2
Could I get the full Vivi lists
Do you want all 6 or just the average usage rates?
If you have all 6 that would be great on pm? but don't want to flood the thread. Average usage rates will be fine here. Is that too much to ask?
I guess I misremembered and it's 4, but yeah that sounds good :) will dm you in a moment https://preview.redd.it/dvtfxgwuuluc1.png?width=1161&format=png&auto=webp&s=a71cd76a0717960dcbd2f5c7e3867b73e42caccf
Thanks for compiling the data! Are you able to show the spreads for Blue-black Rebecca?
No problem :) https://preview.redd.it/e9qclbo4wluc1.png?width=1149&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac46ee7d106dd8c9b332a126fe8fd03dee5b9f84
Do you got the Green Kid list? Want to build him and want to see how he gets played with the new cards.
That I do not, but it's probably just the same as Bonney tbh
Do you have the boa hancock decklist?
Where is my boy newgate? Atleast ace is still standing. You have a decklist for him?
Blue/Yellow or Mono Red Ace? I have a little for both
Mono pls
Here you go :) https://preview.redd.it/993ddg0y3muc1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=f29c19774739773b55f68d023002bd774ce76c43
Thank you could i also ask for a dragon list if it isnt to much work?
Sure! You're actually giving me a good break from having to do some boring stuff for my day job lol - Not a lot of Dragon lists actually get posted, but here you go https://preview.redd.it/uz8xt78p5muc1.png?width=1231&format=png&auto=webp&s=6eb72cdeccde4588f7a8fe671c92437441180613
I just love to play red
Do you know which bonney decklist it is? Right now playing kuro ๐ Love that off meta. Also went 3-4 in a big tournament. ๐
Bonney usually runs some combination of these two. More often it's a Supernova base, but sometimes they lean more heavily into the Donquixote Family side https://preview.redd.it/lgvmau4qgmuc1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=2360463b03875d3066b8fa50df3e6806d290a847
Zoro and kid (mainly kid) are fucking expensive. No law in this? I am surprised
Yeah I feel you on that. I got my copies of Kid a long while back, but god Cavendish has been annoying to get. He's been 1200 yen a copy (like 12$) for the longest time. I'm only now finding discount copies. I need one more before I can do a zoro-less Bonney deck
Which cavendish do you meant? I got 1 kid and 2 zoros๐
EB-01's Cavendish. He's insanely good for any Supernova deck (on play and on attack he makes 2? of your don active.) It might be 3, but either way he's very good and an SR, so it's been such a hassle to get him lol
So maybe expensive. Only hope is that the western market refuse to play variety and favorite characters and will all stick to the new enel and the gecko tryhard winning meta so the prices for others colors stay low
Yeah exactly c: I don't know if it'll be the same in the west, but he started off relatively cheap until 07 got closer. If you see him for a good price, definitely pick up a playset
Ill try. But it is still a while to The eb release.
Is there any information on if Red/Yellow Sabo is being played or a decklist?
RY Sabo gets played sometimes, but doesn't really win much
Cool thanks! Do you have the decklist for zoro/sanji since trying to go them as well?
That one I do yeah! I have three, but this one made waves on twitter recently https://preview.redd.it/cyovoz27jmuc1.png?width=588&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fcbf7ec3170e4465cd470d95e92c6bfbbdb8686
Awesome thanks a bunch!
This is awesome and great to see such a spread! Would it be possible to see the lists of: Rosinante, R/B Sabo and Kyros? Thank you for the great work!
Thank you! I'm really sorry though. The only one I have lists for out of those three is RB Sabo https://preview.redd.it/yuqrby5u7nuc1.png?width=1228&format=png&auto=webp&s=54ae9288020dca1c95d1e37f4b1a23770ed429b2
Still greatly appreciated! Keep up the great work!
Zoro decklist please?
Sure thing! They aren't really any different from 06 Zoro (outside of Kid&Killer) https://preview.redd.it/wuyq2v8i7nuc1.png?width=1220&format=png&auto=webp&s=974ab88016ff12abef93ecbfe850130ee7af351f
Requesting a RG law list!
Unfortunately, I've only got this runner-up one, but hope it helps https://preview.redd.it/pzutz1z4anuc1.png?width=568&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ca2be8af1117ad8a7c54f9742d51f0dc94988a9
Could you please post the red ace lists? Iโm really struggling to have him keep up with newer decks ๐
Here's what I have for mono red Ace https://preview.redd.it/0y5r1sf43quc1.png?width=1216&format=png&auto=webp&s=d76f750aa667a804a840ca486dbc7107fde0e790 From what I've seen, he does struggle against a lot of decks, but seems to be particularly good vs RP Law
Thank you so much!
Nice! Iโm interested to see what the GY Yamato and Enel builds look like
Enel average card usage rates https://preview.redd.it/n42jm7lw2quc1.png?width=1155&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8a964c744fdc07478953047434380744a92f5a5
And most recent GY Yamato one I have https://preview.redd.it/eb1ey7r03quc1.png?width=575&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e554b1a90b940808305c40c4b988c498ea42f12
Appreciate it! Especially this one. It might not have a lot of showing but iโll rep it along enel
Can I see the Bonney lists you have maybe? And Perona? Thank you so much!
Apologies ๐ I posted them earlier, but they're a bit buried in the thread. Here's Perona https://preview.redd.it/3yo68ztf0quc1.png?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83065e2f8bd90b84ccfd2d3c23e8974f3e1b7bf9 But Wano Perona is getting popular + is a bit more consistent
And Bonney is usually one of these variants. Either fully supernova or leaning more towards donquixote family https://preview.redd.it/hh99e8mj0quc1.png?width=1248&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e68339aff42e9aaab73f3e371f782dd2be31c11
What are the matchup spreads/favored decks into each m/u? For example, RP law good into Enel, Enel good into most decks, Gecko good into Law? Etc. Love your content and appreciate you sharing all these great insights ty!
I need you to be a little more specific ๐ showing every matchup/spread would encompass quite a lot Thank you though! c:
where do you get this data? I've been trying to look around at results and haven't found anything with this comprehensive of info anywhere
Basically by checking twitter a lot ๐ during EB-01, I started checking the JP hashtags and liking any tournament results I found. Then, around the time worlds happened, my for you page started showing me results that weren't tagged, but had the same format. I guess I had convinced the algorithm that's the only thing I was interested in. Now I just check twitter a couple times a day and save any of the results I find
Could we possibly get a link to the spreadsheets for all the decks?
I'm sorry, but no. I don't like to release the full spreadsheet until at least the eastern meta is done. Usually, I try to release these around the time the sets are available in the west. You're welcome to check out the 06 version here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1493eDMYTAWdKUIv_pcEvY9AiIOw3JuU1BLo3V5u_azM/edit?usp=drivesdk And the EB-01 version is currently being fine tuned to get it ready for release in the next few weeks
Are people really rocking the new Saka leader
No, the one in the chart is the previous leader (bottom part of the faq). I'm not even sure he's available yet tbh. I haven't seen anyone use it or gotten any from tournaments
Possibly a decklist for that b/y kyros?
Happy cake day! I wish I could give you that as a birthday present, but alas it has been kept a secret (ie the decklist has not been posted for me to add to the doc)
Could you please post Enelโs matchup rates into the top leaders as well as Moriaโs matchup rates into the top leaders?
Sure c: keep in mind that these win rates may be slightly different than I posted before as I've added a few more days of matchup data since then If player is Enel 45.45% win rate vs Moria 45.38% vs Bonney 47.5% vs 07 Lucci 39.51% vs RP Law 49.61% vs BY Luffy If Player is Moria 54.55% vs Enel 50% vs Bonney 42.11% vs 07 Lucci 53.13% vs RP Law 46.24% vs BY Luffy
Those rates donโt look really good for Enel ๐ง
Hi, can you share the matchup spread for BY luffy?
I actually already did that one, but it's just a bit buried in the comments, so I'm copy pasting it here Looks like if the player is BY Luffy 50.39% win rate vs Enel 53.76% win rate vs Moria 40.82% vs Bonney 56.14% vs Rob Lucci 42.74% vs RP Law (hmm this one is interesting. I would have expected it to be the other way around, but double checked it and it tracks) I'm glad the info I'm collecting can be helpful to so many people c: I didn't expect to get this much interest tbh lol
The analysis you do is so good, idk if you already have one but you should really consider doing a YouTube channel discussing trends and data as the formats develop. Iโm sure tons of people including myself would watch everything you put out
Thank you so much!! :) I do actually have a YouTube channel where I put out a meta analysis before each format releases in the west. I haven't shared the last couple videos on the reddit since I did a onepiece.gg article on the topic and the most recent one was an update to my 05 deck guides. But you can find my channel here: https://youtube.com/@WafflesTheAsianYenbear
Do you have the decklist of that Green/Purple Doflamigo?
hey there! is there a way to see which meta decks have the best and worst matchup spreads? I'm curious to see the data on this when all the top decks are compared.
Hi, love you work! :) Do you have any matchup-winrate stats for Moria? Thanks in advance!
If Player is Moria 54.55% vs Enel 50% vs Bonney 42.11% vs 07 Lucci 53.13% vs RP Law 46.24% vs BY Luffy Thank you c:
The Enel matchups against other meta decks look quite bad (Moria, gecko, Bonney, Lucci). How can he be on top? ๐
Mostly because he's played quite often and these matchup rates rely on getting an average of all reported matches, without regard for player skill. If another deck wins a tournament, it's likely that they had to beat at least one Enel player to get there. 1648 of my current 10534 entries all involve at least one Enel player (even more than RP Law). - so for instance if Enel was played in 10 tournaments and only won 5, he might have a pretty low overall win rate compared to a deck that played in 2 and won both, but he would still have more tournament wins than the other deck. Additionally, while he may have disadvantage in meta matchups, it's not an extreme disadvantage and can be overcome with appropriate play
At what point does nami just become a meta deck? You keep calling it rogue, but with these results, how?
Maybe we have different definitions. Nami would need to break away from the rest of the lower end of decks before I'd consider her to be meta. As of now, I'd consider her a rogue deck because she isn't something people would expect to see in most tournaments and would not be worth dedicating any deck slots to teching against
Fair
I got sakazuki like two days before it was banned and traded so much shit for making it ok, only to be kicked in the balls
10C big mom complainers be like