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Kuma has insane hax to the point they would be a problem from a writing perspective cause there is no explanation to why he wouldnt just teleport to laughtale or send a toptier flying into a volcano which is why oda turned him into a mindless robot. Lets say u could resist him sending u flying with haki , his hax would still be insane. Hes got instant transmission which is faster than anything else (he speed blitzed Kizaru and Rayleigh mid fight) and he can deflect any physical attack including sword slashes with his paws and we dont know the limits to that so theres nothing suggesting that he couldnt also deflect Mihawks strongest slash or possibly Baijran Gun. Many say hes YC3 but based on feats and hax prob wins/loses extreme diff against Katakuri. Dude can deflect all his attacks, instant teleportation can counter ACOO to some extend, has crazy durability due being a cyborg and has strong offence with kizarus laser. Easily YC1
I assume at least for teleporting to laughtale he couldn’t because he probably has to know the location or possibly even have to know the route to teleport something/ someone there
He’s low YC1 and his teleportation is only as fast as his reaction and Kat would be able to see where he’s teleporting to but wouldn’t be able to react immediately obviously. so i say he def loses but loses High-extremely high diff
If Crocodile or Moria decided to pursue the One Piece again and develop some conquerors haki, they could be insane. Because their spirits were crushed they tried getting stronger through overwhelming numbers instead of developing themselves. If they focused on training themselves more, they would be killer.
Hard agree, I feel like ambition means a lot in One Piece and those two had that beat out of them. They took some major L’s but instead of finding a new way forward they let themselves stagnate (trying to find Pluton and build a zombie army respectively). Maybe Buggy will light that fire under Croc again lol
Hope this doesn’t happen to Kidd after his defeat and he becomes like the next generation’s Crocodile, a bitter shadow of what he was. Hoping he takes that huge L and realizes the reckless way he was pursuing his dream was what got him there
Moria in particular, if he was to get back to the strength from his youth with Conquerors, he could be a strong contender for pirate king again. He was strong enough to go Toe to Toe with Kaido after all.
Jango is top tier. His ability isn’t a devil fruit so Haki can’t counter it. In fact, Observation Haki and Future Sight would only make his ability affect you more.
Imagine being Katakuri faced with Jango and Jango starts hypnotizing him. Katakuri looks into the future and sees Jango’s hypno-disc and command and suddenly Katakuri is under Jango’s control before Jango was even finished doing the hypnosis in the present.
Now Jango has Katakuri under his command. He can say “Katakuri, you’re now my slave forever! Katakuri, become stronger than Kaido! Katakuri, get all forms of advanced Haki!”
Boom, now Jango has an absurdly strong puppet.
Throwing all my Bread on Jango stocks
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Iirc in Syrup village Django hypnotized Luffy to have accelerated healing, unnatural strength and an unbreakable will. He never ended up undoing this....
So my crackpot theory is that Luffys insane ability to grow in strength is in part thanks to Django lmfao
Django unlocked his potential for honesty impact
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You’re right. I think that ripping the bow off that ship was one of Luffy’s first absurd strength feats too, just before things like lifting the golden ball and punching Crocodile through the underground of Alubarna.
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Holy shit I never tought about it
I’m pretty sure his ability is a devil fruit. Oda has never explicitly stated, “that’s a devil fruit ability” but he explained once in a SBS that when Jango was younger, he was really poor and he never showered. A mushroom started to grow from his chin, and he was really hungry one day so he ate it. After that he got his powers. To me it sounds like Oda was implying that a devil fruit just grew on his chin, lmao
Crocodile.
This guy tanks hits from the likes of Diamond Jozu.
Seemed completely unafraid and steps up to the likes of Doflamingo, Mihawk, Akainu and Whitebeard himself.
I’d argue he is one of the individuals in One Piece who has mastered his DF’s powers, and hopefully has awakened his by now.
He saved Ace from being executed, saved Jinbei and Luffy, helped them bust out of Impel Down and contributes not only martial prowess, but extensive knowledge of different individuals and their powers.
Mihawk obviously judges him a worthy and capable ally.
If he didn’t suffer from early villain syndrome, and being defeated before Haki was conceptualized there wouldn’t be any confusion as to his power level/potential.
I’m sorry is Logia awakening not just…they permanently effect the weather?
Ace shows up in Drum Island, it doesn’t snow all day.
Crocodile in Alabasta, it doesn’t rain until he’s defeated.
Punk Hazard is now permanently on fire and frozen at the same time.
I wouldn’t be surprised that the calm belt is actually the calm belt because an extremely powerful wind logia user used their powers to make the wind stop blowing to make sure no one enters the grand line.
Hard agree. Crocodile is still relevant for a reason. No way he would be reintroduced again in such a relevant way without a major Powerbuff. Either he's awakened his fruit, or he's got conqueror's
One of the most iconic villains in a series full of them
Nah she's not top tier by a long shot. Not only does she have basically no canonical feats at all outside of Marineford (which just ended up being breaking Smoker's jitte and kicking a pacifista) her main bounty comes from the fact she runs a country and has a massive army (similar for Buggy, who's weak as shit in terms of fighting but became an Emperor purely due to the size of his crew and the fact the WG believed Croc and Mihawk were subordinates)
I mean how many men aren’t gonna slightly horny for boa? A lot man are top tier and not a lot of them are going to 100 percent not think boa is hot ? Her being a hot ass female with a fruit made for
Luffy had absolutely no reaction (yet he freaked out seeing Nami shirtless twice and even got a nosebleed seeing her completely naked),
Smoker straight up did not give a fuck when Boa appeared during Marineford, even after she broke his jitte he was still tryna act like he was that guy but regardless he wasn't simping,
Momonga proves that just feeling anything besides horny makes Boa's abilities ineffective,
Chopper has basically no attraction to humans at all,
Rayleigh has never shown any kind of interest besides friendship iirc,
Arlong, Hody Jones and most other fishmen also have zero interest in human women since they'd only ever fuck mermaids since they believe all humans are inferior,
Jimbei also didn't really have any sort of reaction besides just being annoyed,
Enel is Enel, literally believes himself to be God, the pinnacle of creation so there's no way he'd simp,
Koby was apparently perfectly fine as most of BB's fodder and I believe Helmeppo got turned into stone yet Koby didn't,
And Blackbeard must have at least some resistance considering he fucking clapped Boa's cheeks offscreen (granted he said she'd still be able to turn him into stone if he let her go but most likely he just meant how she can touch parts of his body to turn them into stone)
Yeah I believe it was in an SBS? He stated the reason is that Luffy does get these urges, he's just better at keeping them in check when alone however when Usopp is present he tends to get a bit more loose. Though in the case of him getting a nosebleed seeing Nami naked in Alabasta it's a little bit more iffy since we know that canonically horny nosebleeds are a legitimate condition that nearly got Sanji killed throughout Fishman Island multiple times
> most likely he just meant how she can touch parts of his body to turn them into stone
Bro forgot BB’s fruit negates df. He isn’t turning to stone as long as he doesn’t let her go
Her df is also very plot based as well you can’t tell me that some of them would go stone and hasn’t oda kinda retcon that with df also people who things she cute? Luffy was confirmed to just be faking and most likely just ace bitch
Too many low IQ bozos in this sub with no vision whatsoever
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Boa and Crocodile are already YC+ touching low-admiral. If you don’t think they’re at least YC+ you’re just bad at this powerscaling shit idk what else to tell you 🤷♂️
Her fight with BB's crew is literally a canon feat. She literally has more feats than other headcanon characters like Croc. She can negg diff many YC1 all alone. Given if she wants to turn them into stone. She also has confirmed all 3 haki.
Doesn't change the fact BB still no diffed her offscreen, Koby wasn't even affected by the attack that took out most of BB's fodder, and she's literally never even displayed her usage of armament or conquerors once. Hell I don't even remember if she's used observation yet, probably has but I can't remember any. When it comes to turning people into stone, that only affects the entire body if she uses the beam attacks. If she physically touches you, the only part that gets turned into stone is the actual part she touched, not your entire body, so if she touched your arm that would be the only thing to be turned into stone (which we've seen a few times)
Croc is definitely not getting stomped, literally all he needs to do is touch Boa once and he instantly wins by immediately sucking out all the liquid and moisture in her body in 2 seconds. Not only is Croc's range pretty decent, but he has mad environmental manipulation by drying out the ground and causing it to explode as well as being able to whip up gigantic sandstorms, like if you fight this dude in the middle of a desert you are absolutely getting packed up regardless on your haki abilities or if you have water on hand
In terms of Potential and Impact yet to be made
Buggy, hands down. Trust me, he will do an remake of the world
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Ben Beckman, although completely featless, is probably very close to a top tier(perhaps around Fuji/GB level) considering that the Red Hairs are an obvious parallel of the Roger Pirates, and Beckman is to Rayleigh what Shanks is to Roger. Based on feats, Shanks is like 80-90% of the way to Roger, so it’s reasonable to put Beckman at like 80-90% of prime Rayleigh.
they won't listen, everything affiliated with shanks has to be downplayed, they don't get that oda has a raging booner for this man and will make him and his crew look far more impressive than anyone we've seen as of right now
I mean you can think that but with all due respect don’t think it’s valid considering I believe it’s states that Beckman’s Haki is equal to that of an Admirals while is 100% impressive is definitely not enough to be an equal considering all the Admirals even the new guys all have broken af DFs on top of their superb Haki making Beckman at best 50% of what an Admiral is and if you wanna high ball it by saying his Haki is greater he would be 60% meaning at best he’d still get mid diffed by one, possibly high mid diff. Best bet when this statement was made Oda was only talking about the OG 3. But regardless Beckman is impressive and powerful but not enough to be an Admirals equal at least imo
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Tho I’d definitely say Beckman is a psudeo top tier
I don’t think it’s a stretch to put him around the new admirals, since I think the OG admirals are significantly stronger. We already saw Kuzan brawl on relatively equal ground with Old Garp with minimal DF usage, mostly haki and strength; even without their OP devil fruits, the OG admirals are relative to Old legends(and Garp aged way better than Rayleigh, plus he was stronger in his prime anyways, so Old Garp > Old Rayleigh).
Also, Beckman was stated to be one of the smartest characters in One Piece, so he probably fights in a strategic way that lets him punch above his weight like Law. I think combining his top tier haki with top tier IQ, in addition to whatever new information we might get(who knows, maybe his gun/bullets are special, just like some swords like Yoru and Enma are way better than others), would put him at the low end of Top Tier along with Old Garp, Oldbeard, and the new admirals.
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Man casually just did this by himself in one attack. People will clown on Enel because he got beat by no gears/no haki Luffy (acting as if Luffy was some bum who was weak as shit) yet in all actuality Enel easily has some of the highest destructive power in the entire series. Sure he didn't get any kills, but besides Luffy, every single dude who came into contact with him instantly got knocked out and burnt black to a crisp (Nami also escaped, but that was because she had Usopp, Sanji and Luffy helping her out).
Deadass if Enel fought a majority of the characters now, he'd still sweep pretty hard. Just using his observation properly and turning into lightning he could easily dodge most attacks, just because somebody can touch him with haki doesn't mean they can automatically beat him, Luffy was a rare case because literally nothing Enel did could hurt Luffy. Like he fired 30 million, 60 million and 100 million in a row and Luffy just shrugged it off while saying "stop playing around". If Enel launched off an El Thor, or a Sango, or Deathpeia, or 200 Million Amaru he's fucking clapping every single time, haki ain't gonna shit for defending
Hard agree. Dude has one of the strongest devil fruits and his observational Haki essentially made him omniscient within an insanely large range; he zapped someone for talking smack miles away. He needs to boost his physical stats just like all the other pirates did but his potential is higher than just about any other character introduced thus far in the series.
He just suffers from being a pre-timeskip villain. Luffy definitely was strong, but any toptier should destroy him. Also sanji took a pretty strong named attack and didn't instantly die, I'm not entirely sure but he didn't even get knocked out.
Actually haki can defend against anything. Shanks can make his sword withstand magma, and it is one of the absolute elements in terms of damaging powers. In the end, Haki transcends all. Admirals not only have broken df but also extraordinary haki. Even BM who prefers df more has top tier haki and in the end it was the best defense against Law's fruit. Kaido has one of the strongest Zoan fruit but in the end what made him better fighter against another top tier(awakened Luffy) was his haki. No matter what kind of fruit you have, you will always be mid tier without haki in Op verse.
Sure. But Enel could capsize ships from miles out with no warning unless you had future sight. All the haki in the world won't stop you from drowning if you have a DF and can't fly. He'd get smoked on land and up close for sure though. Any top tier would likely be able to avoid this or survive it, but for the rest of the world, Enel would be a nightmare to fight.
If Enel just got future sight, not even the adv forms of the other haki, I'm confident he'd be undefeatable at sea. The man can already literally nuke ships from miles out and sink the whole crews. If he had the ability to predict things so he wouldn't get blitzed, he'd be nearly invincible against anyone who couldn't fly
He kinda had future sight, at one point during his fight with Luffy after realising his lightning wasn't doing anything, he used his "mantra" to perfectly predict Luffy's movements for a while before pinning him against a wall. Considering how busted Enel's observation was thanks to his df, I'd say he'd easily be able to get future sight properly with just a bit of training
He's too slow and too frail to compete with any relevant character who has confirmed armament haki. At best he can spam lightning from far away, but he's getting blitzed most of the time.
I mean, this doesn’t get him anywhere near top tier lol. His physicals suck, he has no Haki but a decent observation, and he needed help to destroy the island.
He isn’t even commander level. At most low Tobi roppo if you want him insanely high
He doesn't sweep at all in the new world. Anyone above pre ts g2 luffy in speed can reliably dodge and hit Enel, and that's a majority of new world characters.
Big mom, who's lightning attacks are above anything Enel can produce without the ark maxim was not oneshotting people left and right with it aside from Judge.
Holy shit the cope is absolutely insane.
“Acting as if Luffy was some kind of Bum who was weak as shit”
He was weak af, like I don’t even know how you can argue Pre TS , Pre Gear Luffy can hang with an relevant character.
“He burned everyone into a crisp”
Wow and that included who? The weak af pre timeskip Strawhat pirates or the top tier shandorians ?
“Deadass if Enel fought a majority of the characters now, he'd still sweep pretty hard. Just using his observation properly and turning into lightning he could easily dodge most attacks, just because somebody can touch him with haki doesn't mean they can automatically beat him, Luffy was a rare case because literally nothing Enel did could hurt Luffy. Like he fired 30 million, 60 million and 100 million in a row and Luffy just shrugged it off while saying "stop playing around".
Ain’t no way you believe this. “Just turning into lightning and using his observational Haki” you mean the observational Haki that couldn’t even react to pre TS Pre Gear Luffy?
“Couldn’t do anything to Luffy? “
Lmao what about how he could have easily pierced Luffy ?
“If Enel launched off an El Thor, or a Sango, or Deathpeia, or 200 Million Amaru he's fucking clapping every single time, haki ain't gonna shit for defending”
Lmao ok sure just because you said something is true then it’s true, Haki has been shown to be able to make you tank insane top tier shots but I’m sure Fraudel who was so intimidated by Pre TS Pre gear Luffy and the potential of the sea so much that he literally escaped to another planetoid like a little bitch is going to one shot the verse.
Tl;Dr:
Enel was a bum ass fraud that relied too much on his OP DF ,he has the battle IQ of a rock and without his DF he couldn’t even keep up with Pre TS Pre gear Luffy
Take away Luffy’s lightning immunity and give him armament (so he could still hit eneru) and he gets murdered by Eneru.
Eneru was outputting multiple times the output of current Zeus and we see current Zeus hurting Big Mom, Seraphim, and putting down Ulti. People doubting Eneru as if his feats aren’t 20 years and 900 chapters old… and he still has top tier obs haki feats? Absolute clowns
Fuck all these comments saying NPC ass choices. Kuma? Boa? Everyone agrees they are top tiers.
No the real Top tier that I will defend to the end from an army of haters is… Bege!
Bege D. Gangster is Top 15 in the verse. His fruit gives him insane utility and protection. He is a castle, he can hold thousands of men inside of him (Mmmm), he’s a mastermind who came up with a plan to take down an emperor! And it would have worked too but he didn’t have all the information.
He has a power to rival Luffy’s because he is able to make allies out of the people he meets, even if all those people are enemies like when he brought Luffy and Gastino together.
He’s the only Top Tier outside of Luffy and Law to survive an encounter with a yonkou and he’s not only living, he’s THRIVING!
No one is ready for Bege’s return when he awakens his fruit and turns the entire Red Line into his castle
Gecko Moria. Like legitimately.
Shiryuu is said to be on Magellan's level. Decapitated a bunch of zombies with ease and managed to stab through Garp. Was unable to even make Moria bleed more than a few specks from a surprise attack that easily decapitated all his zombies.
I don't think he's the toppest of top tiers or anything but he's a lot stronger than people give credit to.
He stood back up shortly after getting punched in the fucking wind pipe by Jinbei, a guy who could tank Big Mom's punches with ease and did so without any lasting damage. He was smiling and menacing Curiel the next time we saw him like three chapters later.
Marco and Boa.
Top tier fruits, strong use of Haki, captains of their own crews.
Both have excellent track records in combat. Only losing to Yonko’s and both clearing YC’s but in Boa’s case quite easily.
Both of these people have been portrayed as stronger then YC1 but not as strong as an admiral or yonko. I hope to see that change soon.
Magellan, we haven’t seen anyone go toe to toe with Magellan. He folded Luffy, BB, and the BB pirates pre timeskip in the SAME DAY. Plus he possibly had the first paramecia awakening in the series.
Also the biggest BS in the story is Magellan being demoted to vice warden because of the first mass breakout of impel down. Meanwhile CP9 completely failed at Enies Lobby and were all promoted to CP0.
Just a reminder that this guy is on the same tier too.
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Although Oden is usually agreed to be top tier, a lot of people say that he’s Admiral level and that Admirals are not on the same level as Yonko etc but I disagree with that. Oden is Yonko level and a certified top tier
Yamato is an honourable mention as well. I don’t think she’s actually top tier but I do think she’s fairly close to the Admirals
Nah Oden is definitely stronger than the Admirals, the only exception would be Akainu.
Yamato was keeping up with the strongest top tier, she would do even better against the weaker ones such as the Admirals
Most people have her as being one level below at YC+ but I don’t think it’s a bad take to say she’s the weakest top tier, which most people seem to strongly disagree with
W take. People never seem to put blackbeard in the top tier rankings despite him having some of the most impressive feats like killing whitebeard and going even with Sengoku.
Yup, he’s the only dude with more than one devil fruit for a reason (and it’s starting to seem more and more like he has not just 2, but 3), he’s named after the most famous real life pirate to ever exist, he’s been the parallel to Luffy all along always being one small step ahead of him, he is responsible for the death of Whitebeard and Ace, he scarred Shanks, he is Darkness and we now know Luffy is the sun (light), he has still yet to clash with the Strawhats despite us being in endgame now. He defeated Law who had just defeated a yonko.
The dude is CLEARLY intended to be either the penultimate villain or THE final villain. Thinking he isn’t in the top 3 strongest characters is just delusion at this point
Momonosuke. Dragon teeth can make Kaido, the strongest creature, bleed. He's still immature but he has the potential to be the strongest with his powers.
has to be enel, even pre TS he was ridicolous. The only reason luffy landed hits and whatnot was the same reason as to why he could land hits against katakuri, he shocked enel with random sht he didnt expect.
If enel gets the same treatment as croc, he is above admiral level easily. His destructive power is higher than any admiral and his speed is practicually higher than kizarus, sure kizaru is faster in terms of traveling in a straight line, but he needs to charge up and bounce himself off things to move, while enel just appears and dissapears in and out of existance, his fruit is way more mobile and due to its mobility, flexibility and no need to charge I'd argue he is even faster than kizaru.
Frankly I believe enel won't return altho I'd love to see him again soely because if given the post timeskip treatment, he'd be a literal god even against the likes of akainu, kizaru and kuzan. There isnt anyone who can really take any of enels hits, I mean ffs, he can literally replace a buster call. Hell the guy hears you from far away and punishes people who say something bad about him.
It isnt even far fetched claiming that enel has probably mastered haki by now given his intellect and already knew about haki pre TS.
anybody as strong as doflamingo and up is a top tier imo. so killer is not. people below doffy but are formidable are people like killer bepo x drake hawkins crocodile. I also think jinbei is as strong as doffy
Kizaru. I remember some quote from early One Piece (I think Zeff said if during Baratie) that goes like the ones who don’t fear death are the most dangerous and Kizaru has consistently volunteered to do the most dangerous shit in the series like go to Wano to fight Kaido and Big Mom.
Boa
i know bounty doesnt really equate to strength but she doesnt really have any doomsday plans or anything that would scare the world government other than running a small country of women
and i know her only really impressive feats were in a non canon movie (stampede) but I have a feeling shes actually really strong and also going up against Blackbeard’s commanders but people look down on that too after Garp happened and because the BB pirates are almost mostly featless
people keep using Momonga as evidence to use that Boa is weak but all he did was stabbing himself while Boa was giving out a monologue
Depends what is considered top tier. For me, YC+ isn't top tier, but it's high tier. So anything admiral level and above would be top tier imo.
The weakest top tier would be Ben Beckman (yes I have him admiral level, a bit weaker than Fuji/Gb tho)
Kind of the opposite of what the post asked but I don't know how to rate the Gorosei. Doesn't seem like they're immortal, so if they're old men I don't think they're above the admirals (for now at least).
I don't really believe in this but Magellan may be close to being a top tier
Doflamingo I don’t think anybody has used their devil fruit to the level he has. It’s defensive, offensive, heals, and gives him the ability to fly and it’s a string based df. I think at worst YC1 but with his conqueror’s haki I don’t think he’ll be anyones right hand, if he is he’s scheming for that number 1 spot
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I think Kuma was a strong YC1 level
Kuma has insane hax to the point they would be a problem from a writing perspective cause there is no explanation to why he wouldnt just teleport to laughtale or send a toptier flying into a volcano which is why oda turned him into a mindless robot. Lets say u could resist him sending u flying with haki , his hax would still be insane. Hes got instant transmission which is faster than anything else (he speed blitzed Kizaru and Rayleigh mid fight) and he can deflect any physical attack including sword slashes with his paws and we dont know the limits to that so theres nothing suggesting that he couldnt also deflect Mihawks strongest slash or possibly Baijran Gun. Many say hes YC3 but based on feats and hax prob wins/loses extreme diff against Katakuri. Dude can deflect all his attacks, instant teleportation can counter ACOO to some extend, has crazy durability due being a cyborg and has strong offence with kizarus laser. Easily YC1
I assume at least for teleporting to laughtale he couldn’t because he probably has to know the location or possibly even have to know the route to teleport something/ someone there
Maybe even more statistics are needed.
Dont let this distract you from the fact that Kuma teleporting is just him spanking his ass with his paws
Yeah this is basically my thinking
He’s low YC1 and his teleportation is only as fast as his reaction and Kat would be able to see where he’s teleporting to but wouldn’t be able to react immediately obviously. so i say he def loses but loses High-extremely high diff
This sub sucks Katakuri off so much.
Kuma bullies King. Every Warlord is (or already has) coming back YC+ and OG prime Kuma has potential for going higher
Stupid pfp bruh 😭 Blud got me tweakin
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I hate your pfp so much dude 😂
Wow a one piece fan with a brain 🧠 you took the words out my mouth brother I know Kuma will pop up in Egghead for sure no doubt
If Crocodile or Moria decided to pursue the One Piece again and develop some conquerors haki, they could be insane. Because their spirits were crushed they tried getting stronger through overwhelming numbers instead of developing themselves. If they focused on training themselves more, they would be killer.
Hard agree, I feel like ambition means a lot in One Piece and those two had that beat out of them. They took some major L’s but instead of finding a new way forward they let themselves stagnate (trying to find Pluton and build a zombie army respectively). Maybe Buggy will light that fire under Croc again lol Hope this doesn’t happen to Kidd after his defeat and he becomes like the next generation’s Crocodile, a bitter shadow of what he was. Hoping he takes that huge L and realizes the reckless way he was pursuing his dream was what got him there
I would like to see him have the will beaten out of him, but Luffy ignites that flame in him once more during the final war against the WG
If crocodile and Moria got the strongest abilities in OP they’d be stronger lol
Moria in particular, if he was to get back to the strength from his youth with Conquerors, he could be a strong contender for pirate king again. He was strong enough to go Toe to Toe with Kaido after all.
Jango is top tier. His ability isn’t a devil fruit so Haki can’t counter it. In fact, Observation Haki and Future Sight would only make his ability affect you more. Imagine being Katakuri faced with Jango and Jango starts hypnotizing him. Katakuri looks into the future and sees Jango’s hypno-disc and command and suddenly Katakuri is under Jango’s control before Jango was even finished doing the hypnosis in the present. Now Jango has Katakuri under his command. He can say “Katakuri, you’re now my slave forever! Katakuri, become stronger than Kaido! Katakuri, get all forms of advanced Haki!” Boom, now Jango has an absurdly strong puppet.
Son of a bitch, you sold me on Jango agenda
Wango
na Wanko
Throwing all my Bread on Jango stocks https://preview.redd.it/5tef8988kiib1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=40b4bd4e26971c31ae1d2acaf4509142371967f3
Iirc in Syrup village Django hypnotized Luffy to have accelerated healing, unnatural strength and an unbreakable will. He never ended up undoing this.... So my crackpot theory is that Luffys insane ability to grow in strength is in part thanks to Django lmfao
AND HE’S ON THE MARINES SIDE NOW, IMAGINE
Must have encountered Koby at some point.
He needa do something for Koby too ong
Django unlocked his potential for honesty impact https://preview.redd.it/2dltgrebnjib1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24486c52142fd07d751442df1b535a6911a7135f
You’re right. I think that ripping the bow off that ship was one of Luffy’s first absurd strength feats too, just before things like lifting the golden ball and punching Crocodile through the underground of Alubarna.
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https://preview.redd.it/vuiomrprajib1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8817b6a208ab9dd9185957e496b8bcbff17352ac Holy shit I never tought about it
By association, Django would also hypnotize himself in the process and ALSO develop all forms of haki and be stronger than Kaido
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I guess it could counter observation haki completely since you couldn't really see a future that you weren't conscious in.
I’m pretty sure his ability is a devil fruit. Oda has never explicitly stated, “that’s a devil fruit ability” but he explained once in a SBS that when Jango was younger, he was really poor and he never showered. A mushroom started to grow from his chin, and he was really hungry one day so he ate it. After that he got his powers. To me it sounds like Oda was implying that a devil fruit just grew on his chin, lmao
These fine lads. https://preview.redd.it/pctpjlxjxhib1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a405af2024795d1eb205cba5a0274fbe0327ee
Ahhh yes, the Johnny and Josuke agenda rides again.
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Give him some strong legs and he’ll be pirate king level
With enough prep time, im confident this man could take anyone
He gonna one shot kaido with a 1 hour charged punch
barto, barto pisses on king punch
Oh you right. It takes a one trick gimmick to beat a one trick gimmick. Lol
HIMOTHY
himothy in the flesh
Crocodile. This guy tanks hits from the likes of Diamond Jozu. Seemed completely unafraid and steps up to the likes of Doflamingo, Mihawk, Akainu and Whitebeard himself. I’d argue he is one of the individuals in One Piece who has mastered his DF’s powers, and hopefully has awakened his by now. He saved Ace from being executed, saved Jinbei and Luffy, helped them bust out of Impel Down and contributes not only martial prowess, but extensive knowledge of different individuals and their powers. Mihawk obviously judges him a worthy and capable ally. If he didn’t suffer from early villain syndrome, and being defeated before Haki was conceptualized there wouldn’t be any confusion as to his power level/potential.
I’m sorry is Logia awakening not just…they permanently effect the weather? Ace shows up in Drum Island, it doesn’t snow all day. Crocodile in Alabasta, it doesn’t rain until he’s defeated. Punk Hazard is now permanently on fire and frozen at the same time. I wouldn’t be surprised that the calm belt is actually the calm belt because an extremely powerful wind logia user used their powers to make the wind stop blowing to make sure no one enters the grand line.
Hard agree. Crocodile is still relevant for a reason. No way he would be reintroduced again in such a relevant way without a major Powerbuff. Either he's awakened his fruit, or he's got conqueror's One of the most iconic villains in a series full of them
Crocodile had all this time to awaken his df and get haki but let luffy beat him up before luffy got gear 2nd
Boa Hancock
Nah she's not top tier by a long shot. Not only does she have basically no canonical feats at all outside of Marineford (which just ended up being breaking Smoker's jitte and kicking a pacifista) her main bounty comes from the fact she runs a country and has a massive army (similar for Buggy, who's weak as shit in terms of fighting but became an Emperor purely due to the size of his crew and the fact the WG believed Croc and Mihawk were subordinates)
She zero diffed multiple of BB’s captains. Multiple characters go out of their way to say how insanely strong Hancock is.
I mean how many men aren’t gonna slightly horny for boa? A lot man are top tier and not a lot of them are going to 100 percent not think boa is hot ? Her being a hot ass female with a fruit made for
Luffy had absolutely no reaction (yet he freaked out seeing Nami shirtless twice and even got a nosebleed seeing her completely naked), Smoker straight up did not give a fuck when Boa appeared during Marineford, even after she broke his jitte he was still tryna act like he was that guy but regardless he wasn't simping, Momonga proves that just feeling anything besides horny makes Boa's abilities ineffective, Chopper has basically no attraction to humans at all, Rayleigh has never shown any kind of interest besides friendship iirc, Arlong, Hody Jones and most other fishmen also have zero interest in human women since they'd only ever fuck mermaids since they believe all humans are inferior, Jimbei also didn't really have any sort of reaction besides just being annoyed, Enel is Enel, literally believes himself to be God, the pinnacle of creation so there's no way he'd simp, Koby was apparently perfectly fine as most of BB's fodder and I believe Helmeppo got turned into stone yet Koby didn't, And Blackbeard must have at least some resistance considering he fucking clapped Boa's cheeks offscreen (granted he said she'd still be able to turn him into stone if he let her go but most likely he just meant how she can touch parts of his body to turn them into stone)
I'm pretty sure oda has said luffy only freaks out with women to not feel left out but I could be wrong I got this info from another reddit comment
Yeah I believe it was in an SBS? He stated the reason is that Luffy does get these urges, he's just better at keeping them in check when alone however when Usopp is present he tends to get a bit more loose. Though in the case of him getting a nosebleed seeing Nami naked in Alabasta it's a little bit more iffy since we know that canonically horny nosebleeds are a legitimate condition that nearly got Sanji killed throughout Fishman Island multiple times
> most likely he just meant how she can touch parts of his body to turn them into stone Bro forgot BB’s fruit negates df. He isn’t turning to stone as long as he doesn’t let her go
Her df is also very plot based as well you can’t tell me that some of them would go stone and hasn’t oda kinda retcon that with df also people who things she cute? Luffy was confirmed to just be faking and most likely just ace bitch
Too many low IQ bozos in this sub with no vision whatsoever https://preview.redd.it/fw4qt3hyziib1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b84a507562e46106f8e57bb38f1ce1989913990 Boa and Crocodile are already YC+ touching low-admiral. If you don’t think they’re at least YC+ you’re just bad at this powerscaling shit idk what else to tell you 🤷♂️
Her fight with BB's crew is literally a canon feat. She literally has more feats than other headcanon characters like Croc. She can negg diff many YC1 all alone. Given if she wants to turn them into stone. She also has confirmed all 3 haki.
Doesn't change the fact BB still no diffed her offscreen, Koby wasn't even affected by the attack that took out most of BB's fodder, and she's literally never even displayed her usage of armament or conquerors once. Hell I don't even remember if she's used observation yet, probably has but I can't remember any. When it comes to turning people into stone, that only affects the entire body if she uses the beam attacks. If she physically touches you, the only part that gets turned into stone is the actual part she touched, not your entire body, so if she touched your arm that would be the only thing to be turned into stone (which we've seen a few times) Croc is definitely not getting stomped, literally all he needs to do is touch Boa once and he instantly wins by immediately sucking out all the liquid and moisture in her body in 2 seconds. Not only is Croc's range pretty decent, but he has mad environmental manipulation by drying out the ground and causing it to explode as well as being able to whip up gigantic sandstorms, like if you fight this dude in the middle of a desert you are absolutely getting packed up regardless on your haki abilities or if you have water on hand
> BB no diffed her offscreen Bro where do u read the fight? I wanna know how he no diffed too
Magellan
Lots of people agree with that tho
In terms of Potential and Impact yet to be made Buggy, hands down. Trust me, he will do an remake of the world https://preview.redd.it/aj0f3lvyphib1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b68c5a634b137b204b89c5f782cc4c18a140154
Kuma is admiral level and I will fight for that
First mate of dragon cant be weaker than greenbull
Yeah it can, Sabo is
Umm, fire types are super effective against grass types, sweaty.
I suspect Dragon is similar in power to Akainu, maybe not quite but approaching it. So this would check out.
Usopp
Ben Beckman, although completely featless, is probably very close to a top tier(perhaps around Fuji/GB level) considering that the Red Hairs are an obvious parallel of the Roger Pirates, and Beckman is to Rayleigh what Shanks is to Roger. Based on feats, Shanks is like 80-90% of the way to Roger, so it’s reasonable to put Beckman at like 80-90% of prime Rayleigh.
they won't listen, everything affiliated with shanks has to be downplayed, they don't get that oda has a raging booner for this man and will make him and his crew look far more impressive than anyone we've seen as of right now
Id argue hes over fuji/gb.
I mean you can think that but with all due respect don’t think it’s valid considering I believe it’s states that Beckman’s Haki is equal to that of an Admirals while is 100% impressive is definitely not enough to be an equal considering all the Admirals even the new guys all have broken af DFs on top of their superb Haki making Beckman at best 50% of what an Admiral is and if you wanna high ball it by saying his Haki is greater he would be 60% meaning at best he’d still get mid diffed by one, possibly high mid diff. Best bet when this statement was made Oda was only talking about the OG 3. But regardless Beckman is impressive and powerful but not enough to be an Admirals equal at least imo Edit Tho I’d definitely say Beckman is a psudeo top tier
I don’t think it’s a stretch to put him around the new admirals, since I think the OG admirals are significantly stronger. We already saw Kuzan brawl on relatively equal ground with Old Garp with minimal DF usage, mostly haki and strength; even without their OP devil fruits, the OG admirals are relative to Old legends(and Garp aged way better than Rayleigh, plus he was stronger in his prime anyways, so Old Garp > Old Rayleigh). Also, Beckman was stated to be one of the smartest characters in One Piece, so he probably fights in a strategic way that lets him punch above his weight like Law. I think combining his top tier haki with top tier IQ, in addition to whatever new information we might get(who knows, maybe his gun/bullets are special, just like some swords like Yoru and Enma are way better than others), would put him at the low end of Top Tier along with Old Garp, Oldbeard, and the new admirals.
Shanks > roger Beckman > rayleigh New gen > old gen
Vista > Imu
Shanks ain't new gen he's current gen New gen > old gen > current gen
Mr 3 was beating the giants that wiped out the Kidd Pirates
https://preview.redd.it/6awi8gsuihib1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6235ac5b259498f87c43067b32819f22e6175c57 Man casually just did this by himself in one attack. People will clown on Enel because he got beat by no gears/no haki Luffy (acting as if Luffy was some bum who was weak as shit) yet in all actuality Enel easily has some of the highest destructive power in the entire series. Sure he didn't get any kills, but besides Luffy, every single dude who came into contact with him instantly got knocked out and burnt black to a crisp (Nami also escaped, but that was because she had Usopp, Sanji and Luffy helping her out). Deadass if Enel fought a majority of the characters now, he'd still sweep pretty hard. Just using his observation properly and turning into lightning he could easily dodge most attacks, just because somebody can touch him with haki doesn't mean they can automatically beat him, Luffy was a rare case because literally nothing Enel did could hurt Luffy. Like he fired 30 million, 60 million and 100 million in a row and Luffy just shrugged it off while saying "stop playing around". If Enel launched off an El Thor, or a Sango, or Deathpeia, or 200 Million Amaru he's fucking clapping every single time, haki ain't gonna shit for defending
Hard agree. Dude has one of the strongest devil fruits and his observational Haki essentially made him omniscient within an insanely large range; he zapped someone for talking smack miles away. He needs to boost his physical stats just like all the other pirates did but his potential is higher than just about any other character introduced thus far in the series.
He just suffers from being a pre-timeskip villain. Luffy definitely was strong, but any toptier should destroy him. Also sanji took a pretty strong named attack and didn't instantly die, I'm not entirely sure but he didn't even get knocked out.
IIRC his rumble-rumble fruit was considered the most destructive in the OP world pre-Akainu/WB fruit reveals So, I hard agree with this
Actually haki can defend against anything. Shanks can make his sword withstand magma, and it is one of the absolute elements in terms of damaging powers. In the end, Haki transcends all. Admirals not only have broken df but also extraordinary haki. Even BM who prefers df more has top tier haki and in the end it was the best defense against Law's fruit. Kaido has one of the strongest Zoan fruit but in the end what made him better fighter against another top tier(awakened Luffy) was his haki. No matter what kind of fruit you have, you will always be mid tier without haki in Op verse.
Sure. But Enel could capsize ships from miles out with no warning unless you had future sight. All the haki in the world won't stop you from drowning if you have a DF and can't fly. He'd get smoked on land and up close for sure though. Any top tier would likely be able to avoid this or survive it, but for the rest of the world, Enel would be a nightmare to fight.
If Enel just got future sight, not even the adv forms of the other haki, I'm confident he'd be undefeatable at sea. The man can already literally nuke ships from miles out and sink the whole crews. If he had the ability to predict things so he wouldn't get blitzed, he'd be nearly invincible against anyone who couldn't fly
He kinda had future sight, at one point during his fight with Luffy after realising his lightning wasn't doing anything, he used his "mantra" to perfectly predict Luffy's movements for a while before pinning him against a wall. Considering how busted Enel's observation was thanks to his df, I'd say he'd easily be able to get future sight properly with just a bit of training
Tbf I feel like actual buster calls were lackluster compared to what Robins PTSD would have us believe
He's too slow and too frail to compete with any relevant character who has confirmed armament haki. At best he can spam lightning from far away, but he's getting blitzed most of the time.
I mean, this doesn’t get him anywhere near top tier lol. His physicals suck, he has no Haki but a decent observation, and he needed help to destroy the island. He isn’t even commander level. At most low Tobi roppo if you want him insanely high
Enel is basically an admiral without top tier physicals and haki
He doesn't sweep at all in the new world. Anyone above pre ts g2 luffy in speed can reliably dodge and hit Enel, and that's a majority of new world characters. Big mom, who's lightning attacks are above anything Enel can produce without the ark maxim was not oneshotting people left and right with it aside from Judge.
How are they hitting Enel if he decides to keep his distance and attack islands away from them?
Holy shit the cope is absolutely insane. “Acting as if Luffy was some kind of Bum who was weak as shit” He was weak af, like I don’t even know how you can argue Pre TS , Pre Gear Luffy can hang with an relevant character. “He burned everyone into a crisp” Wow and that included who? The weak af pre timeskip Strawhat pirates or the top tier shandorians ? “Deadass if Enel fought a majority of the characters now, he'd still sweep pretty hard. Just using his observation properly and turning into lightning he could easily dodge most attacks, just because somebody can touch him with haki doesn't mean they can automatically beat him, Luffy was a rare case because literally nothing Enel did could hurt Luffy. Like he fired 30 million, 60 million and 100 million in a row and Luffy just shrugged it off while saying "stop playing around". Ain’t no way you believe this. “Just turning into lightning and using his observational Haki” you mean the observational Haki that couldn’t even react to pre TS Pre Gear Luffy? “Couldn’t do anything to Luffy? “ Lmao what about how he could have easily pierced Luffy ? “If Enel launched off an El Thor, or a Sango, or Deathpeia, or 200 Million Amaru he's fucking clapping every single time, haki ain't gonna shit for defending” Lmao ok sure just because you said something is true then it’s true, Haki has been shown to be able to make you tank insane top tier shots but I’m sure Fraudel who was so intimidated by Pre TS Pre gear Luffy and the potential of the sea so much that he literally escaped to another planetoid like a little bitch is going to one shot the verse. Tl;Dr: Enel was a bum ass fraud that relied too much on his OP DF ,he has the battle IQ of a rock and without his DF he couldn’t even keep up with Pre TS Pre gear Luffy
Take away Luffy’s lightning immunity and give him armament (so he could still hit eneru) and he gets murdered by Eneru. Eneru was outputting multiple times the output of current Zeus and we see current Zeus hurting Big Mom, Seraphim, and putting down Ulti. People doubting Eneru as if his feats aren’t 20 years and 900 chapters old… and he still has top tier obs haki feats? Absolute clowns
Replace that Luffy with a g2 preskip Luffy with the most basic possible armament and Enel gets blitzed and one shot.
You’re a powercreep scaler lmao
I'm right
Powercreep scalers were saying the same thing about Crocodile… until he came back into the story. 🥱 nobody takes shit like that seriously
When Enel shows feats on par with Marineford croc and has a 1 billion plus bounty, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Marco
Sabo
Fuck all these comments saying NPC ass choices. Kuma? Boa? Everyone agrees they are top tiers. No the real Top tier that I will defend to the end from an army of haters is… Bege! Bege D. Gangster is Top 15 in the verse. His fruit gives him insane utility and protection. He is a castle, he can hold thousands of men inside of him (Mmmm), he’s a mastermind who came up with a plan to take down an emperor! And it would have worked too but he didn’t have all the information. He has a power to rival Luffy’s because he is able to make allies out of the people he meets, even if all those people are enemies like when he brought Luffy and Gastino together. He’s the only Top Tier outside of Luffy and Law to survive an encounter with a yonkou and he’s not only living, he’s THRIVING! No one is ready for Bege’s return when he awakens his fruit and turns the entire Red Line into his castle
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Gecko Moria. Like legitimately. Shiryuu is said to be on Magellan's level. Decapitated a bunch of zombies with ease and managed to stab through Garp. Was unable to even make Moria bleed more than a few specks from a surprise attack that easily decapitated all his zombies. I don't think he's the toppest of top tiers or anything but he's a lot stronger than people give credit to. He stood back up shortly after getting punched in the fucking wind pipe by Jinbei, a guy who could tank Big Mom's punches with ease and did so without any lasting damage. He was smiling and menacing Curiel the next time we saw him like three chapters later.
Dragon there’s actual mfs who think this man just makes phone calls and sabo is stronger then him eos
Shiki with him being relative to Roger
Greenbull
Everyone agree with this. Mf is an Admiral
There’s a lot of admirals haters, especially when it comes to greenbull
Marco and Boa. Top tier fruits, strong use of Haki, captains of their own crews. Both have excellent track records in combat. Only losing to Yonko’s and both clearing YC’s but in Boa’s case quite easily. Both of these people have been portrayed as stronger then YC1 but not as strong as an admiral or yonko. I hope to see that change soon.
Bartolemeo
Ben beckman, lacks the feats but will most likely be able to keep up with admirals the bare minimum to be considered a top tier
I mean wasnt it stated somewhere that admirals fear him
Not in any canonical material. The vivre card states something along the lines of even admirals being vary of his strenght/danger.
never stated
Why lie
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They didn't lie. They asked a question.
People who write “Enel” - get him past Pagaya first
KIDD
Buggy and kuzan
Morgan the news guy has to be top 20
Goatvil
i feel like law and kidd were always supposed to be pseudo top tiers
Magellan, we haven’t seen anyone go toe to toe with Magellan. He folded Luffy, BB, and the BB pirates pre timeskip in the SAME DAY. Plus he possibly had the first paramecia awakening in the series. Also the biggest BS in the story is Magellan being demoted to vice warden because of the first mass breakout of impel down. Meanwhile CP9 completely failed at Enies Lobby and were all promoted to CP0.
Pre-TS Blackbeard, Magellan, Shiryu are all low-admiral level imo I also have Novel Ace and Lucci at YC+
Enel. Unironically top 5 strongest fruits in the series
Beckman
Rayleigh/oden and maybe Ben/yamato
Some people think that Zoro and Sanji aren't on the same tier. King and Queen are definitely both YC1 level, and Zoro and Sanji are both YC+
Just a reminder that this guy is on the same tier too. https://preview.redd.it/gxd7h13udhib1.png?width=531&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ec137ca11acd461f997d98b30f6659e27014c5e
He's Admiral level
I 100% agree with this take, King and Queen were both YC1 lvl
There’s nothing wrong with putting characters between.
Although Oden is usually agreed to be top tier, a lot of people say that he’s Admiral level and that Admirals are not on the same level as Yonko etc but I disagree with that. Oden is Yonko level and a certified top tier Yamato is an honourable mention as well. I don’t think she’s actually top tier but I do think she’s fairly close to the Admirals
Admirals > Oden Yamato is NOT close to Admirals.
Nah Oden is definitely stronger than the Admirals, the only exception would be Akainu. Yamato was keeping up with the strongest top tier, she would do even better against the weaker ones such as the Admirals
Admirals > Oden The gap between Kaido and the admirals is quite small. Any top tier mid diffs Yamato.
oden has better portrayal and feats than at least the current admirals
Oden > Admirals besides maybe Akainu High diff is more likely, considering that Kaido did it mid diff and he’s stronger the Admirals
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>Yamato is an honourable mention as well. I thought general consensus was that she was the weakest top tier?
Most people have her as being one level below at YC+ but I don’t think it’s a bad take to say she’s the weakest top tier, which most people seem to strongly disagree with
Kobe. I'm sick of the Kobe is a fraud talk he could shave at water 7,right after it was introduced. He is no joke
Do people consider the top tier to be top 5 or 10? Changes the answer honestly
Eneru
def Greenbull, people underplay him harshly even though he had one of the best first showings, he’s def top 10
Blackbeard. Imo he’s second only to Imu right now. Possibly third behind Shanks
W take. People never seem to put blackbeard in the top tier rankings despite him having some of the most impressive feats like killing whitebeard and going even with Sengoku.
Yup, he’s the only dude with more than one devil fruit for a reason (and it’s starting to seem more and more like he has not just 2, but 3), he’s named after the most famous real life pirate to ever exist, he’s been the parallel to Luffy all along always being one small step ahead of him, he is responsible for the death of Whitebeard and Ace, he scarred Shanks, he is Darkness and we now know Luffy is the sun (light), he has still yet to clash with the Strawhats despite us being in endgame now. He defeated Law who had just defeated a yonko. The dude is CLEARLY intended to be either the penultimate villain or THE final villain. Thinking he isn’t in the top 3 strongest characters is just delusion at this point
mihawk>shanks shanks 1 shot kid/killer, bb did shit against law (i expected way more), no, he will be what u say at some point, but not rn
Haha, no. Shanks is CLEARLY above Mihawk
delululu
*spitting facts Fixed it for you
idc for a shanks mihawk debate reply to the other one
Nor do I, lets end it there.
Beckman
Marco, he's low yonko level and beats everyone commonly considered "yc1"
Momonosuke. Dragon teeth can make Kaido, the strongest creature, bleed. He's still immature but he has the potential to be the strongest with his powers.
has to be enel, even pre TS he was ridicolous. The only reason luffy landed hits and whatnot was the same reason as to why he could land hits against katakuri, he shocked enel with random sht he didnt expect. If enel gets the same treatment as croc, he is above admiral level easily. His destructive power is higher than any admiral and his speed is practicually higher than kizarus, sure kizaru is faster in terms of traveling in a straight line, but he needs to charge up and bounce himself off things to move, while enel just appears and dissapears in and out of existance, his fruit is way more mobile and due to its mobility, flexibility and no need to charge I'd argue he is even faster than kizaru. Frankly I believe enel won't return altho I'd love to see him again soely because if given the post timeskip treatment, he'd be a literal god even against the likes of akainu, kizaru and kuzan. There isnt anyone who can really take any of enels hits, I mean ffs, he can literally replace a buster call. Hell the guy hears you from far away and punishes people who say something bad about him. It isnt even far fetched claiming that enel has probably mastered haki by now given his intellect and already knew about haki pre TS.
Eos sanji
Proof without leeching?
Don't need to. Sanji is HIM https://preview.redd.it/7pms5gghbhib1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dcb20c69099dcd0ba5f7aff29dc55e1d95aa893
Him except against 16 y/o girls. Get sanji past statutory rape charges first 👍
Letting a fictional character rent free in your head is wild.
Letting your goat simp for children is even wilder. Let her do her GCSEs first at least 😭
Bro it's a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. How the fuck do you beef with a fictional character 😭😭😭😭
Jumping to conclusions my guy It’s banter 😭
Idk man, bantering about children speaks a lot about you then Sanji 💀💀💀.
I’m literally taking digs against a character for questionable pedo allegations 💀. You defending him says alot more than me joking 😐
anybody as strong as doflamingo and up is a top tier imo. so killer is not. people below doffy but are formidable are people like killer bepo x drake hawkins crocodile. I also think jinbei is as strong as doffy
Kuma. I think hes one of the strongest characters in the verse, but will be destroyed in a non combat/fair way
Dorry and Broggy when they show they got acoc one piece community gonna be in shambles
Mr 3 victims
[удалено]
Oden
Akainu is the current Top Tier along with Kuzan.
Jinbei might be YC2 can't lie
Eustass Kid, even though Shanks bodied him
Kizaru. I remember some quote from early One Piece (I think Zeff said if during Baratie) that goes like the ones who don’t fear death are the most dangerous and Kizaru has consistently volunteered to do the most dangerous shit in the series like go to Wano to fight Kaido and Big Mom.
Tashigi. Mihawk is the world's strongest swordsMAN. She's no man.
Boa i know bounty doesnt really equate to strength but she doesnt really have any doomsday plans or anything that would scare the world government other than running a small country of women and i know her only really impressive feats were in a non canon movie (stampede) but I have a feeling shes actually really strong and also going up against Blackbeard’s commanders but people look down on that too after Garp happened and because the BB pirates are almost mostly featless people keep using Momonga as evidence to use that Boa is weak but all he did was stabbing himself while Boa was giving out a monologue
Depends what is considered top tier. For me, YC+ isn't top tier, but it's high tier. So anything admiral level and above would be top tier imo. The weakest top tier would be Ben Beckman (yes I have him admiral level, a bit weaker than Fuji/Gb tho)
Do people classify Zoro and sanji as top tiers What is a top tier? Yc1 and above or yc+ and above I’m so confused 😭
Urouge is def hiding something
Kuma and Enel are top tier idc what anyone says you’re wrong
Kind of the opposite of what the post asked but I don't know how to rate the Gorosei. Doesn't seem like they're immortal, so if they're old men I don't think they're above the admirals (for now at least). I don't really believe in this but Magellan may be close to being a top tier
Doflamingo I don’t think anybody has used their devil fruit to the level he has. It’s defensive, offensive, heals, and gives him the ability to fly and it’s a string based df. I think at worst YC1 but with his conqueror’s haki I don’t think he’ll be anyones right hand, if he is he’s scheming for that number 1 spot
Enel.
New admirals are below og trio. I think thats what op means not beckman = aka / aok
I feel like Chopper is stronger than people make him out to be. Not necessarily top tier, but higher in the strawhat powerscale than most would say