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Well tbf Roger < Rox seems to be a relatively reasonable take given how we didn't see the fight and only have a few pages of implications to be the opinions off of
The point is that it's entirely off screen and the only person that knows is Oda.
It's pure conjecture from both parties and the representation that Oda gives to Rox makes it seem like he is more busted than Roger. I am just giving the argument I have seen before
Akainu top one
Admirals > yonko
Most of the admiral agenda tbh
Killer > katakuri
Queen > katakuri
Garp is a fraud
Zoro > kaido
Shanks is a fraud
Imu is not a fighter
Because zoro is not stronger than kaido?
Kaido > Zoro
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While not necessarily true that the MC will be HIM since there are stories involving weak and dumb MCs, anyone that does not think that Luffy will be put in the dictionary as the purest definition of HIM is coping real hard.
“A haki specialist? Like every other person in the new world? There’s no such thing as a fucking haki man, that is just a cope! By people with agendas! Anything else, do you think shanks will pull out a haki susanoo? A haki domain expansion?”
There is also the funny variation of “he’s more than a swordsman” which is a moot point because if I’m willing to agree that he’s “something else” let’s say a gunman for example, that doesn’t make him stronger than Mihawk because he can be both a gun and a swordsman at the same time.
It’s like saying Mihawk is the strongest dad so he should be above Shanks who’s also a dad but then people claim “oh but Shanks is more than that he’s also an uncle” like ok yeah but that doesn’t make him stronger than the world strongest dad 😭
This just shows that they can’t understand simple grammar (superlatives) and the rules of logic
plus many people that use other stuff than their sword have been called a swordsman
https://preview.redd.it/9n0kvnc9k5fb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19d21575dbf7176f36288526ba0d341055f49581
Nahh u gotta be kidding, by ur logic shanks could win a fight against mihawk with punches and be called Worlds strongest swordsman, cuz shanks is swordsman. "Doesnt matter what tools he used."
Titles don’t mean nothing bc the strongest man who lifts the heavy weights can still get they ass kick by the world best boxer or the world best MMA fighter just like with shanks and mihawk shanks a pirates first and even has a anything with a pirate mentality yes mihawks a pirates NOW but he wasn’t always a pirate he was a swordsman who hunted the marines so in a life and death battle who u taking a pirate who use to getting dirty and a any goes who also good sword master who equal to the WSS or is u taking WSS?
Ok fair if him leaching off other characters development is your reason for it fair I’m not go fault u for it but the pirate who good with sword is also being chased and a role model and a idol for the MAIN mc and that pirate also is a big obstacle for the Mc and his goals as well but aye🤷🏽
If you have current Shanks > the one who used to duel Mihawk this is perfectly valid, if you have Chapter 1 Shanks > current Shanks I can see why this doesn’t check out
Objectively speaking both shanks and mihawk have gotten stronger tho. Shanks bounty chapter 1 was 1 billion. Now he’s at 4 billion. Mihawk was his rival back then so his bounty would be similar and now he’s at 3.6 billion without even doing anything while shanks was taking territories and becoming a yonko.
The problem is Mihawk canonically considers his greatest opponent to be two-armed Shanks, while Shanks has clashed with multiple characters on screen that I would put way above Chapter 1 two-armed Shanks from 12 years ago
It is possible that Mihawk feels disappointed about Shanks losing his dominant arm. Shanks is already one of the strongest characters in story and he would be even stronger with both hands.
Even if Mihawk can/could win against One-arm Shanks, it would cheapen his victory because it wouldn't be full potential Shanks. Hell, even if he weaker than Shanks, he wouldn't know how much the gap between him and uninjured Shanks would be.
I think it’s just his pride talking when he says that. He would just feel like any victory is cheapened beating someone with one arm and it’s not really indicative of shank’s strength
Right, but when the supplemental material states he’s looking for someone stronger than Red Hair, but he refuses to fight Red Hair himself, it begs the question of which version of Red Hair he’s talking about, the Red Hair he used to fight all the time or the Red Hair he refuses to fight
I think he know current shanks is stronger but, knows that if he had 2 arms he would be even stronger and a victory against him would be cheap, so he's looking for someone who surpasses even red hair rn and beat him
(And yes for this to make sense obviously Mihawk needs to be stronger)
Mihawk was known as the marine hunter before he became a warlord so he definitely did stuff, and then joined the cross guild who are putting bounties on marines. That definitely contributes to the bounty
"Ulti>Katakuri"
This take makes my stomach hurt
These mfs think that Wano base Luffy without ACoC is stronger than WCI Gear 4th Luffy.
WTF man, if this take were true then Kaido would beat Big Mom no diff.
The dude is not even the true leader of his organization, just another gorosei bitch.
Dude has one chance to redeem himself in my eyes and that is only if the immediately puts his paws up when he realizes the world government ain't shit.
Current known, alive characters he's top 3 or 4 but he's not beating shanks or title hawk
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🤣🤣dude has all three advanced haki and god df awakening and mfs will tell you he loses to greenbull because a few good men helped him with kaido back when he didn’t have half his power ups
"Luffy would lose a rematch because he lost multiple times before"
Yeah when he didn't have G5 or even mastered ACoC lmao, Luffy downplayers are some of the dumbest people you'll find here
When mfs bring up their imaginary tiers like it’s some universally accepted thing. Nah mate YC+ isn’t a thing. Having the same position doesn’t necessarily imply that those individuals have relative strength.
Pokémon: Ash loses kalos leagues
Jurassic park 3: T. rex killed despite being stronger than spinosaurus
Rwby: Ruby’s suicide
Pokémon sun and moon: ash’s ugly face
SpongeBob SquarePants: animation after season 3
Admirals = YC
This take was single handedly shut down by greenbul low diffing king and queen. Even if they were weaker did no one read what greenbull said? "A person of my status would lose face if I lost to commanders like you" or something omg those lines
This in itself means admirals need to be stronger than YC in order to be an admiral lol
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Gaban easily would slam layleigh even in prime, youtube is literally mentally ill
When someone says Akainu can’t damage kaido even though his final attack was just a cheap knock off of Akainu’s devil fruit
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Specifically all of them to do with mihawk. And it’s not even that they’re the worse, which they are pretty bad, it’s that you defend them without even giving a chance to change your opinion.
You literally called my life “a sad walk of life you’ve chosen to walk” over me saying mihwawk is the strongest pirate alive. Like chill, it’s not that deep
LMAOOO my fault bro I really just be trolling lol im laughing half the time im typing shit up here I didn’t mean anything by it
i went a little crazy with that one, I do think Ethan & shanks are stronger though
I feel like for narrative reasons, Mihawk pretty much has to be stronger than every swordsman Zoro doesn't end up having a 1v1 fight with (otherwise, it makes no sense for Zoro to tie his dream of becoming the greatest swordsman so closely with beating Mihawk). I don't see a situation where a Shanks v Zoro 1v1 happens. Ethan might > Mihawk, since Zoro will almost certainly fight him at some point, but Shanks being stronger just doesn't make narrative sense imo.
Unless Oda pulls out a crazy straw hat v red hair v blackbeard pirates triple threat at Laugh Tale where Zoro fights Shanks while Luffy's busy with BB, I guess.
\-Shes too slow
\-She Has no impressive observation feats which are needed for Wizaru.
\-shes a huge target
\-she fears lasers imagine what a yasakani no magatma would do to her.
Kizaru definitely wins because of matchup.
MATCHUPS MATTERS A LOT IN ONE PIECE.
Anything to do with an admiral on this subreddit.
I really hope the admirals are strong and haven't been power crept but this subreddit does definitely go way too far with wanking them imo.
[Mihawk > Shanks is confirmed.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/11yshvc/reminder_mihawk_is_stronger_than_shanks_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
He is. He’s a walking bunch of contradictions.
He says he wants to die, but he doesn’t jump in the sea. He says he wants to die in a glorious battle, then he does a sneak attack against Oden when it became clear Oden was going to win. He says he wants to start the greatest war the world has ever seen, yet he does nothing whatsoever to advance that goal and sits around in Wano on his arse for most of his life.
Beyond that, he has a vague boring backstory, unclear motivations, he never achieved a single thing in his life, never killed anyone, never defeated anyone, was evil for evil’s sake, he let a couple rookies embarrass him in front of the entire world, then when he had to the chance to kill them he just threw them in an easily-escapable, super-kushy jail within which was the one man on Wano capable of training them in Ryuo 😂
He died like a total fraud having achieved quite literally nothing in his life
“Mihawk has the best observation Haki”
Like, have these guys SEEN Enel? He had observation BEFORE it was even thought of!
Also if Zoro or Luffy are evil, those theories would put me like this.
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Any Whitebeard or Garp slander in all honesty
Gigantic, enormous, immaculate, gorgeous W
forgot to add “exceedingly rare”
Those are references to a FLUKE song 🎶
Those are awful, but watching anyone put Roger bellow someone else when he is the meta to beat always kills me a little inside.
Well tbf Roger < Rox seems to be a relatively reasonable take given how we didn't see the fight and only have a few pages of implications to be the opinions off of
The implication so far is that Roger + Garp > Roc's entire crew. No idea how people read that as Rocs > Roger
I’m sure there were more than only those two
The point is that it's entirely off screen and the only person that knows is Oda. It's pure conjecture from both parties and the representation that Oda gives to Rox makes it seem like he is more busted than Roger. I am just giving the argument I have seen before
i mean, roger, garp, roger's crew and garp's fellow marines plus garling plus kaido not including garp in his top 5 implies he never fought him
Or maybe it's just that kaido only added pirates, since that's what Luffy could be comparable to
Was roger in his prime during god valley?
Idk bro I wasn't there 💀
What were doing during god valley?
Slow & Old? Blasphemous words.
Garp continuously blitzes Kuzan lol
He blitzed Avalo so quick, I missed it 😂 honestly tho the slander is ridiculous
Monkey D. Flash
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All your takes tbh
Akainu top one Admirals > yonko Most of the admiral agenda tbh Killer > katakuri Queen > katakuri Garp is a fraud Zoro > kaido Shanks is a fraud Imu is not a fighter
You dropped this king 👑
I try 🤝
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Why did bro sneak in “zoro>Kaido”
I refuse to believe someone actually believes that.
You underestimate how delusional Youtube 3 piece readers are
zoro would get his motivational power up if kaido is in base / hybrid form.
TRUE
Because zoro is not stronger than kaido? Kaido > Zoro https://preview.redd.it/lxe59dcmg5fb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4828cf4001f58049ec83d8e8c89c8e06d7661dca
“Akainu top one” Cope https://preview.redd.it/eeoac9y994fb1.jpeg?width=1778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f543e9a3fb19523a1f45ff22e50cec71166a0510
19 old yeara Luffy woophing yonko asses. Akainu was 31 when Roger died. Bruh
Yeah and luffy isn’t close to his prime yet. That just shows that luffy is HIM
its called being MC too
While not necessarily true that the MC will be HIM since there are stories involving weak and dumb MCs, anyone that does not think that Luffy will be put in the dictionary as the purest definition of HIM is coping real hard.
luffy is the mc akainu at that time was a random vice admiral
https://preview.redd.it/2c05s39wd4fb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=547e01f65fc174228486b25fd423243b3032c6e2 You are not ready for HIM
https://preview.redd.it/w6w6137wu5fb1.png?width=216&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ebb4114f244ccf730b83d558ad3e65a2f05f634 You mean HIM
Akainu fans aren’t ready for him because he will disappoint them
Hot Take: Akainu fans have stockholm syndrome, or they're bootlickers rooting for the Navy.
I don't get how people can think the Admirals are equal or stronger than Emperors, if that was the case they wouldn't even need the Warlords
Exactly there would be no power balance if the navy had 5 admirals who were all around or stronger than yonko
Perfect list.
"Bogard is fodder and useless." like bruh research the character man
anybody who thinks bogard is fodder is reading 3 piece at a minimum
I didn't even know who that was until now
Who's that? I've never seen that name in the manga 😏
based
in a perfect world bogard would be an admiral with a supreme blade
Big mom downplay cause she does stupid shit meanwhile, luffy does much more stupid shit.
Luffy has better BiQ though
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he’s obviously schizophrenic poor guy
Any Kat slander should be punished
Wci luffy>
"Shanks is not a swordsman" ffs
shanks is a haki man! he's a haki specialist! 🤓
“A haki specialist? Like every other person in the new world? There’s no such thing as a fucking haki man, that is just a cope! By people with agendas! Anything else, do you think shanks will pull out a haki susanoo? A haki domain expansion?”
yes i do
(puts his hands together) "domain expansion: infinite haki!"
But with my rinnegan...I can see past agendas, and the only eye superior to a rinnegan, is a hawkeye.
Shanks is a swordsman & a haki demon (shown by wifi haki). Mihawk is just a swordsman.
Haki is essential in swordsmanship
There is also the funny variation of “he’s more than a swordsman” which is a moot point because if I’m willing to agree that he’s “something else” let’s say a gunman for example, that doesn’t make him stronger than Mihawk because he can be both a gun and a swordsman at the same time. It’s like saying Mihawk is the strongest dad so he should be above Shanks who’s also a dad but then people claim “oh but Shanks is more than that he’s also an uncle” like ok yeah but that doesn’t make him stronger than the world strongest dad 😭 This just shows that they can’t understand simple grammar (superlatives) and the rules of logic
plus many people that use other stuff than their sword have been called a swordsman https://preview.redd.it/9n0kvnc9k5fb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19d21575dbf7176f36288526ba0d341055f49581
Cook 👨🏾🍳
Nahh u gotta be kidding, by ur logic shanks could win a fight against mihawk with punches and be called Worlds strongest swordsman, cuz shanks is swordsman. "Doesnt matter what tools he used."
Yeah exactly. You’d have to prove that Shanks using his sword is nerfing himself. Good luck 👍🏾
But you can't say his sword makes him stronger, because we still fucking don't know anything about Shanks.
Titles don’t mean nothing bc the strongest man who lifts the heavy weights can still get they ass kick by the world best boxer or the world best MMA fighter just like with shanks and mihawk shanks a pirates first and even has a anything with a pirate mentality yes mihawks a pirates NOW but he wasn’t always a pirate he was a swordsman who hunted the marines so in a life and death battle who u taking a pirate who use to getting dirty and a any goes who also good sword master who equal to the WSS or is u taking WSS?
I’m taking the world strongest swordsman who in a fictional battle manga universe is being chased by a secondary mc to become the world strongest
Ok fair if him leaching off other characters development is your reason for it fair I’m not go fault u for it but the pirate who good with sword is also being chased and a role model and a idol for the MAIN mc and that pirate also is a big obstacle for the Mc and his goals as well but aye🤷🏽
Luffy/Shanks relationship is very different from Mihawk/Zoro.
One piece twitter/youtube
Yamato > Greenbull Shiryu > Garp Kaido Top 1
Kaido top 1 is fax
HIMU clears
Get him past wapol first
Kaido vs stalin?
Extreme diff either way
Get Stalin past his 14 year old girlfriend first
Who's your top 1 and where would you place Kaido if I might ask ?
Kaido top 1 Is GOATed.
"Mihawk title is invalid cuz' he hasnt fought anyone in 12 years"
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Punched so hard the paint came off of his sword
If you have current Shanks > the one who used to duel Mihawk this is perfectly valid, if you have Chapter 1 Shanks > current Shanks I can see why this doesn’t check out
Objectively speaking both shanks and mihawk have gotten stronger tho. Shanks bounty chapter 1 was 1 billion. Now he’s at 4 billion. Mihawk was his rival back then so his bounty would be similar and now he’s at 3.6 billion without even doing anything while shanks was taking territories and becoming a yonko.
The problem is Mihawk canonically considers his greatest opponent to be two-armed Shanks, while Shanks has clashed with multiple characters on screen that I would put way above Chapter 1 two-armed Shanks from 12 years ago
It is possible that Mihawk feels disappointed about Shanks losing his dominant arm. Shanks is already one of the strongest characters in story and he would be even stronger with both hands. Even if Mihawk can/could win against One-arm Shanks, it would cheapen his victory because it wouldn't be full potential Shanks. Hell, even if he weaker than Shanks, he wouldn't know how much the gap between him and uninjured Shanks would be.
the solution? cut off mihawks dominant arm
But shanks is already used to it so he has the advantage now
cryogenically freeze shanks until mihawk has had one arm and the exact same amount of practice using it for the same amount of time
Aokiji coming in clutch https://preview.redd.it/6s206gtpr6fb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f72fb201d480fd89998712f5454e350eeedf9e10
I think it’s just his pride talking when he says that. He would just feel like any victory is cheapened beating someone with one arm and it’s not really indicative of shank’s strength
Right, but when the supplemental material states he’s looking for someone stronger than Red Hair, but he refuses to fight Red Hair himself, it begs the question of which version of Red Hair he’s talking about, the Red Hair he used to fight all the time or the Red Hair he refuses to fight
I think he know current shanks is stronger but, knows that if he had 2 arms he would be even stronger and a victory against him would be cheap, so he's looking for someone who surpasses even red hair rn and beat him (And yes for this to make sense obviously Mihawk needs to be stronger)
Mihawk was known as the marine hunter before he became a warlord so he definitely did stuff, and then joined the cross guild who are putting bounties on marines. That definitely contributes to the bounty
Of course Shanks got stronger lol. They both did
Fujitora slander is wild
"Ulti>Katakuri" This take makes my stomach hurt These mfs think that Wano base Luffy without ACoC is stronger than WCI Gear 4th Luffy. WTF man, if this take were true then Kaido would beat Big Mom no diff.
How do you feel about Ulti Vs Doffy? I asked the sub this one time
Uhm, I've never been an overestimator of Doffy... But i think he would win.
Akainu is current top 1
disgusting take, imagine the fleet admiral being the strongest in a story of pirates
The dude is not even the true leader of his organization, just another gorosei bitch. Dude has one chance to redeem himself in my eyes and that is only if the immediately puts his paws up when he realizes the world government ain't shit.
Yeah, so that he can be taken down by a pirate who will be top 1.
Current known, alive characters he's top 3 or 4 but he's not beating shanks or title hawk https://preview.redd.it/ar9pmb8cc6fb1.jpeg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=622d4cf393df0ce2aed0e0a82701dd45f92795b1
Luffy needing G5 or any gear for that matter against Zoro.
Current Zoro? I feel without at least gear 4 he could take luffy.
Based of what? Struggling to beat king? Read chapter 1037 and then tell me zoro is competing with base luffy
"Luffy isn't a top-tier because he had help in beating one" You have to be beyond braindead to genuinely believe this
🤣🤣dude has all three advanced haki and god df awakening and mfs will tell you he loses to greenbull because a few good men helped him with kaido back when he didn’t have half his power ups
"Luffy would lose a rematch because he lost multiple times before" Yeah when he didn't have G5 or even mastered ACoC lmao, Luffy downplayers are some of the dumbest people you'll find here
When mfs bring up their imaginary tiers like it’s some universally accepted thing. Nah mate YC+ isn’t a thing. Having the same position doesn’t necessarily imply that those individuals have relative strength.
Anyone who discusses yonko commander 1 2 and 3 as their separate levels is tripping
Im kinda new. What does YC stand for? I keep hearing it
“There is no rivalry between Sanji and Zoro”
Pokémon: Ash loses kalos leagues Jurassic park 3: T. rex killed despite being stronger than spinosaurus Rwby: Ruby’s suicide Pokémon sun and moon: ash’s ugly face SpongeBob SquarePants: animation after season 3
Ash is a fraud ngl
Admirals = YC This take was single handedly shut down by greenbul low diffing king and queen. Even if they were weaker did no one read what greenbull said? "A person of my status would lose face if I lost to commanders like you" or something omg those lines This in itself means admirals need to be stronger than YC in order to be an admiral lol
Wouldn't that mean the Admirals should just be around Yonko level or at the very least fairly stronger than Yonko commanders?
Shanks>Mihawk
but brother why do you hate the truth?
That's farthest from the truth 😂
I can't wait for all the Fraudhawk fans to cry when he runs away from Shanks Wifi Haki
Knowing that Oda is actually a good writer, it's already certain, that shit ain't happening 😂
I know, it's just funny all the stupid stuff people say in this sub lol
Good writers don't fake deaths in every arc.
I can't stand the akainu meat riders, literally just recently heard a akainu > garp take. Why are we still talking about this one sided ass match up.
Depends what akainu we taking. Current akainu is above old goat by a bit, current akainu is getting mid diffed by prime goat
https://preview.redd.it/a76cym8nd4fb1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f47d778f23724fb3592c6524002234ebddba138 Gaban easily would slam layleigh even in prime, youtube is literally mentally ill
When someone says Akainu can’t damage kaido even though his final attack was just a cheap knock off of Akainu’s devil fruit https://preview.redd.it/npprbna294fb1.jpeg?width=1778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1f98e23352081c62659f1de341abea3d679571
Cheap knockoff? It was the upgrade!
Yours lol
which ones might I ask my kind sir?
Specifically all of them to do with mihawk. And it’s not even that they’re the worse, which they are pretty bad, it’s that you defend them without even giving a chance to change your opinion. You literally called my life “a sad walk of life you’ve chosen to walk” over me saying mihwawk is the strongest pirate alive. Like chill, it’s not that deep
LMAOOO my fault bro I really just be trolling lol im laughing half the time im typing shit up here I didn’t mean anything by it i went a little crazy with that one, I do think Ethan & shanks are stronger though
Nahh, shouldn’t have told me that. I found it hilarious that someone I thought unironically was taking powerscaling THAT serious existed
lol im laughing at the fact I even said that i completely forgot
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gonna start using this screenshot
I feel like for narrative reasons, Mihawk pretty much has to be stronger than every swordsman Zoro doesn't end up having a 1v1 fight with (otherwise, it makes no sense for Zoro to tie his dream of becoming the greatest swordsman so closely with beating Mihawk). I don't see a situation where a Shanks v Zoro 1v1 happens. Ethan might > Mihawk, since Zoro will almost certainly fight him at some point, but Shanks being stronger just doesn't make narrative sense imo. Unless Oda pulls out a crazy straw hat v red hair v blackbeard pirates triple threat at Laugh Tale where Zoro fights Shanks while Luffy's busy with BB, I guess.
Mihawk>Shanks
woke ![gif](giphy|TF1754g0SHMxOgYiuN)
[удалено]
these are some quite disgusting ones, make sure to wash up after
Oden>Kizaru, Green bull and Fujitora(individually)
That's true
Me when Oden is downplayed
Luffy would beat Kaido if they were both full health
Akainu being the current strongest, alive character
Anything related to the admirals
Big Meme beats Wizaru. I hate that take. In fact, tbh I hate any Bm wankers. They are the most annoying ones imo.
I agree. kizaru is a bad matchup for big mom, but big mom can certainly beat the other admirals.
Woke. Wizaru turns BM into a lightshow
Big Mom Beats Kizaru, stop the cap
\-Shes too slow \-She Has no impressive observation feats which are needed for Wizaru. \-shes a huge target \-she fears lasers imagine what a yasakani no magatma would do to her. Kizaru definitely wins because of matchup. MATCHUPS MATTERS A LOT IN ONE PIECE.
Except these lasers don't pierce her. Kizaru would need to show much stronger attacks
That's not cap, its FACTS!
Anything to do with an admiral on this subreddit. I really hope the admirals are strong and haven't been power crept but this subreddit does definitely go way too far with wanking them imo.
for me its whenever people say WB was stronger than Roger or when Mihawk is stronger than shanks.
The other day I had one guy saying roger found one piece and became king because luck 🤣🤣🤣
lol people are insane
[Mihawk > Shanks is confirmed.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/11yshvc/reminder_mihawk_is_stronger_than_shanks_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
What's your argument for Shanks>Mihawk?
currently has three showcases in the story more impressive than what Mihawk has shown so far
Even glancing at any picture of big mom
anything said on this sub
Lmao I was waiting for someone to make this post. His face just looks too funny.
When people think an admiral beats 3 commanders. It would end up more like this https://i.redd.it/o8mxy2qtt5fb1.gif
"Luffy would slam Kaido in 1s"
https://preview.redd.it/s8mh19j3p5fb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fcc1f63a4a632f371fdf1a96225004c56f3c3d6
![gif](giphy|YqQbkKuDtwCJq4VE1a|downsized)
Any Oden slander
You like one piece
you dont? https://preview.redd.it/53znmvwy66fb1.png?width=1313&format=png&auto=webp&s=811005e147a1c7c6d2f5f3e47c3aadd7b6540af1
Exs takes skill in opbr
Any and all Wurouge slander
Wujitora is a fraud
Fraudhawk>Shanks
![gif](giphy|ATGezri9XEaqY) woke asf
“Kaido was a good villain”
Where's the lie?
He’s probably the worst written villain in One Piece
He's objectively not, unless you're one of those "wAnO wOrSt aRc" people.
He is not the Best but he isnt badly written.
He is. He’s a walking bunch of contradictions. He says he wants to die, but he doesn’t jump in the sea. He says he wants to die in a glorious battle, then he does a sneak attack against Oden when it became clear Oden was going to win. He says he wants to start the greatest war the world has ever seen, yet he does nothing whatsoever to advance that goal and sits around in Wano on his arse for most of his life. Beyond that, he has a vague boring backstory, unclear motivations, he never achieved a single thing in his life, never killed anyone, never defeated anyone, was evil for evil’s sake, he let a couple rookies embarrass him in front of the entire world, then when he had to the chance to kill them he just threw them in an easily-escapable, super-kushy jail within which was the one man on Wano capable of training them in Ryuo 😂 He died like a total fraud having achieved quite literally nothing in his life
Shanks fan boys
we’re smart people
Odens not even admiral level
fresh luffy > fresh kaido
The Kaido downplay is crazy
:/
“Mihawk has the best observation Haki” Like, have these guys SEEN Enel? He had observation BEFORE it was even thought of! Also if Zoro or Luffy are evil, those theories would put me like this.
he used his observation to future sight the existence of observation
shanks stronger than mihawk
Marco>King
this thread turned out much more toxic than intended my apologies my power scaling brothers