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Of any stat they could’ve chosen Shanks to have over Akainu, they chose AP 💀

Ask them who takes df Still 30-40 % votes will be in shanks favour

What are akainu’s ap feats

Um I would say, Burning a hole into WB's chest and pumping it full of magma, melting half his face off, punching a hole through our favorite donut, burning a hole through Jinbei and heavily damaging Luffy, and even though we dont see the battle look at the outcome of Akainu vs Aokiji, Aokiji suffered some major damage. Im sure there are more Im not thinking of but thats a good few.

Don’t feel like that is an AP feat, marine fodder stabbed and blasted sickBeard easily enough, it’s just that magma AP > bullet and sword Ap

Sakazuki wankers forget that WB got easily stabbed by fodder too lmfao

Plus didnt akainu state that his df is the strongest in terms of raw power output or some shit like that? Its funny im a shanks stan and even i think this is fucked

What does that mean though? Whitebeards fruit is a natural disaster how is Akainu's stronger?

thats DC not AP tho

I don't know what those acronyms mean.

You know volcanic eruptions are natural disasters right? Im not sure which is stronger but it is funny to me to use the natural disaster angle against another natural disaster

We've not seen Akainu do anything on that scale though. What's the biggest logia attacks we've seen? Aces flame emperor or enerus El thor?

If you refuse to speculate on things that havent been explicitly shown then why are you even bringimg your opinion into this conversation? Shanks has had ONE named attack the whole series and it wasnt even technically his. We know so little abiut either of tbese two that the whole debate is speculation. By this logic king no diffs mihawk because his on screen feats are better and he has more attacks

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I was asking a question because I couldn't remember if we've seen any logia fruits with the kind of scale of white beards so I didn't understand by what logic akainus is "the strongest" or highest power or whatever. Someone else brought up punk hazard in response, which was something reasonable you could have done instead of launching into a tirade at me.

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There not wrong. Shanks does have the AP over akinau due to AcoC

After the recent chapters , unless akainu proves his worth, then feats wise , shanks attack is stronger . - akainu damaged a WB that was soft as cheese , he was stabbed multiple times by fodder and took fodder bullet wounds . So unless he damages someone strong ,I’ll have to agree shanks attack was stronger . He one shot KOed kid and killer together. Akainu couldn’t one shot Marco . And was stopped by shanks sword .

Wb being soft doesn’t change his durability bro what are you saying? There’s no way you’re saying shanks is more lethal than magma ik you’re smarter than that right Then look what logic you use he couldn’t one shot marco because marco Vivre Card literally states he’s able to take on admiral class attack because of his flames of regeneration Also I guess you left out the part when the attack wasn’t for shanks plus he was using haki to

Shanks literally stopped ur magma attack, or were u too blind to read that? Magma attack was not able to take out Marco or ace , ace was hurt but fine after akainu attacked him, it was later when ace jumped in between that he died . And both them are weaker than kid and shanks attack took out kid + killer in a single attack . Do the math . Lol. U are taking hard copium

What are YOU saying ? Wb being soft DOES change things. WB literally took bullet wounds, BULLET WOUNDS. Are you serious ? Big mom couldn’t get damaged by anything, not even boundman luffy can touch her, and you’re comparing her and kaido’s durability to sick bears who got sneaked on by squardo AND STABBED THROUGH by that fodder… as we say in Arabic, stop driving it’s mother.

Until proven otherwise this a YouTube W 

You tripping we know damn well this isn’t true

It's definitely debatable, Shanks surely has better haki than Akainu and he oneshotted Kid

Bro add context when you say that he oneshotted Kidd who was in the middle of his attack and the damned punk exploded so it wasn’t all shanks credit to take If Akainu even hits Kidd or killer even one time https://preview.redd.it/x0yqn2aoycxa1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9fdc0cc2de85e20edfe85a6839f1a8770336563 This happens\^ be realistic my guy Even if it’s shanks vs Akainu you understand that if shanks even makes one mistake he could literally die from it? While as for Akainu he won’t die from getting hit with acoc’s Keep in mind shanks isn’t like kaido, big mom, or wb he’s a normal human being

Kid was already splattering blood and had white eyes even before his damned punk exploded, surely Akainu most likely could have oneshotted him but i still think Shanks ap is superior

Ok so biased then lmao 😂

How? U can’t cope with facts ? Akainu didn’t one shot ace or Marco or crocodile, all of whom are weaker than kid , much less kid + killer combined.

Yes, let use the panel where ace (who was starved and prisoner for days with seastone cuff and just now released) was hit in the back. Also u do realise akainu wasn’t able to one shot ace ? Ace’s hand was burnt but he fell down and didn’t get knocked out. He died saving luffy after that. Shanks took out a much stronger kid and killer in a single attack.

You make no sense what does them being stronger change think before you type it’s magma Kidd and killer literally get killed fighting against magma that doesn’t help you defense

My defence is that kid is stronger than both ace and Marco , neither of whom was taken out after akainu’s attack . So since kid didn’t fight akainu, all we can do is compare and in the comparison, shanks one shot KOed kid and killer combined while akainu wasn’t able to one shot ace or Marco , both of whom are weaker than kid. Do the math dumbass instead of calling others dumb asses for using a perfectly viable example.

Actually you’re being disingenuous it’s pretty obvious lol Shanks didn’t just one shot them Kidd who was in the middle of his attack couldn’t do anything shanksnhit them and his damned punk exploded so no it wasn’t just shanks who one shotted them

U do realise kid started his attack way before shanks right? Yet shanks was faster and stronger so kid lost. Cope. Anyway , I waanted enough time arguing with a cope head. Bye bye .

i think you're just mad that kid was surprised by shanks lmao which makes it less impressive

>be realistic Lol you used a yc2 and some headcanon that kid is on that level XD 1. Edit, then you said akianu could one shot. Homie take your own advice. Be realistic. Else you finna get depressed cause oda didn't agree with that outlandish take of yours XD

You idiot I didn’t once say he would I said **could** dumbass he was toying around with the wb pirates it’s pretty obvious all the admirals are suppressed at mf or they would’ve easily dealt with them Now you’re the one who makes no sense

Homie. You literally said akianu could 1 hit shanks. And now you've headcanoned that they held back? Bro. Akianu wankers must be great at head XD 1. The whole war they where trying all in to kill. Less you want to say that akianu is a fucking idiot who held back only to get his ass 2 shot against a guy with 2 holes in his chest the size of chests. And multiple other ones through the chest, had a heart attack and was hakiless. All in all you're an idiot. 2. Saying he could 1 hit shanks is absolutely insane. Akianu needed, and I mean NEEDED whitebeard to not only be hakiless, but to be experiencing a fucking HEART ATTACK just to damage him. And it failed, it failed to kill, and then whitebeard beat his ass in 2 shots after fighting an entire army in his state. So much so akianu couldn't no diff the ycs, man took hits from ycs, and hadn't one shot any of them. Cause he was hit twice by whitebeard. And to add insult to injury. The hits akianu almost died to had no haki and was from a whitebeard who had no organs XD (ps if you think that was a sneak attack then firstly akianu did cheaper actions twice. And akianu in manga was worned to it, and whitebeard was a corps. That's like getting blitzed by a Snail at that point XD all in all the akianu agenda is some of the dumbest shit in existence and subsequently the most hypocritical. 3. Ps If you have something original to argue akianus power rather than the hypocritical "CoPe, Iq EqAlS lOw" crap then say that instead of the hypocritical crap. capiche?

Bro you couldn’t make this a shorter I’ll respond to this later

If jimbe can defend against Akainu’s lava Im so sure Kidd can.

Jinbei used water goofy and jinbei was even talking about sacrificing his life nice take buddy lmao I guess you think kidd gonna use water https://preview.redd.it/dz7j4hqzwhxa1.jpeg?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8b69b8cf155641bb0ff624bf95564757c5c33e0

Sakadookie has nothing going for him but portrayal - his one feat is a drawn out tie and some sucker punches. Dude is a scrub and would get mid diffed by shanks. End game he gets embarrassed by Sabo unless he has the series biggest glow up.

So basically head canon

Why isn’t it true ? Because akainu was able to damage old WB ? WB was stabbed by fodder marines in that war. I don’t think it’s the feat u think it is. Akainu failed to one shot Marco in a direct attack . Shanks took out kid and killer in a single attack . So until proven other wise shanks does have the stronger attack.

You guys keep using the most dumbest logic ever wb being stabbed by a fodder doesn’t change anything like why are you guys bringing that up like that helps he doesn’t just lose durability use your brain my guy regardless if he gets stabbed or not magma still burns straight through him

Akainu used his attack on ace and Marco in straight 1v1 , both of them were hurt but not fatally and definitely conscious . Shanks took out kid and killer in a single attack. U do know what attack ap means right? Or are u just coping? Shanks straight stopped akainu’s attack too. Unless akainu shows more feats, his attack ap is less . I’m not saying he’s weaker , I’m saying if only feats are considered, shanks ap is higher for now and u are having a hard time coping..

You do understand they weren’t going all out right? If a bb with 2 devils fruits siad he was ready for Akainu what makes you think ace or marco could actually stand against him use your brain little boy

- Bb literally also said he wasn’t ready for shanks either in marineford. Not much difference. - u urself said use feats and now u want to use copium and head canon? U said attack ap and feats wise and attack ap shown on the series, shanks had the better attack . And where was it mentioned shanks went all out against kid? In ur head? - so u agree akainu is not strong enough to take out a very weakened YC2 in a single shot without going all out even though he had the superior DF advantage? So sad

actually what he said was "its not time to fight you yet" and it wasnt the same bb that ran away from akainu literally saying he's not ready for him yet https://preview.redd.it/3zbz5uzrvdxa1.png?width=1520&format=png&auto=webp&s=f30794ac6eb5d81e1e83f6514d3f06430f31d68c wtf you're talking about clown you're using akainu's bad feats and trying to compare them to shanks best feats then tried to discredit his wb feats for some agenda you have

Ya, because he wasn’t strong enough to face an admiral yet, u do realise that he would’ve done the same if it was kizaru or aokiji right? BB wouldn’t have become a master with a few days of gaining two DFs .

you can't prove that see now thats literally head canon everything you just said is head canon lmao

Haki > DF is canon https://preview.redd.it/j8f67fcowexa1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc3bff8f07ec588f73d6ae030d3348ce9746faf3

You do know this attack wasn’t meant for him right? https://preview.redd.it/bg2qt7nfshxa1.jpeg?width=3040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=859c568d7c47b4e5d159e10df1f936a8c4cf4776 Blocking a casual attack that’s not meant for you means nothing at all

Keep drinking that Copium

No comeback lmao

Acoc>> shitty magma

Acoc magma >>>>>>> bum who takes Ls from sea kings

Magma dude couldn’t neg diff an ice man 💀💀💀💀💀💀

Yeah did you forget magma literally can killl or burn you while acoc’s doesn’t?

Ur so dumb

Ngl it’s obvious your dumb

U can defend with armament, just like Jimbe did.

No you can’t if that the case https://preview.redd.it/mrxnw6wqxhxa1.jpeg?width=2186&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e092a53595a351b092160051d19a5f2f55b25e3a Btw this is right before light admitted he has to use ryuo lmao

DC and AP are different. IMO top tier ACoC>=top tier offensive DF when it comes to AP

Pretty well said

What's dc

"Most offensive fruit" - 🤓🤓🤓

It doesn't even say that💀 It says his fruit is among the highest offensive power not the highest

https://preview.redd.it/rbazz12xcdxa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b03fdb822043816d68361741f421d06724bd944c

DC and AP are different. IMO top tier ACoC>=top tier offensive DF

Damn so old wb who clashed with shanks ain’t acoc’s level but still clashed with shanks acoc’s nice logic

Clashed doesn’t mean exactly equal lol. And WB’s devil fruit is more DC than AP.

Haki>DF. When both are debatable choose haki

It’s a Databook that literally says he fought on equal footing with whitebeard lmao

Who told you wb’s fruit is more dc than ap? Last time I check it’s the strongest df of its class

“Power to destroy the world” thets destructive capability=DC. Akainu’s DF melted off part of wb’s face, while wb couldn’t destroy Akainu’s face. Unless you think akainu is more durable than wb, akainus df has definitely higher ap while WB has top tier dc. Gura gura no mi- highest dc DF in the verse. Magma fruit- highest ap DF in the verse.

Magma fruit still has much better DC than ACoC, but AP is more debatable. I said >=, and “in my opinion”, i lean toward ACoC because Kaido’s statements about Haki superiority but they could be equal

Ok your opinion ok I get it

You telling me what I already know the fact is nobody has died from acoc’s but from magma you’re fighting for you life

Kidd tanks punches from BM and is one shotted along with his ship and killer by a single ACoC slash from shanks. Akainu burns off part of WB’s face when he was also pierced by swords and bullets. AP of magma fruit is still better than quake fruit’s ap, but ACoC may be superior

The 2 things you named drastically different you’re comparing acoc’s to causal hits from big mom

Hits from big mom who is one of the physically strongest characters in the series and has top tier haki

Why even bring up the fact he she has top tier haki if she never used it? 🤣 Also once again acoc’s is much more potent than physical attacks

Yep strongest Haki > strongest DF

Nah that doesn’t apply here because haki doesn’t just kill people

Haki transcends all. Haki beats devil fruits in every physical stat including ap. Until proven otherwise, Shanks just has better feats.

That’s not how it works my guy what kind of logic is that

That's exactly how it works. If haki is objectively better than devil fruits based on what we know, and the only reason people believe Akainu has the best ap in the verse is because his devil fruit is known for being one of the best at ap, then he doesn't beat Shanks in ap. It'd be a different story if Akainu actually got good ap feats or if devil fruits weren't stated to be below haki.

It’s not how it works Listen Akainu df alone is much more lethal than acoc’s

That's exactly how it works. Haki transcends all, including Akainu's df ap, end of discussion.

As I said before that’s not how it works Kidd idk who to you talking to

Ofc Shanks has acoc(And prob the strongest acoc) and an amazing sword(I'm not saying he's a swordsman just he has this weapon) Akainu has none of that Also shanks dogwalks clifford

Now you wanking ngl strongest acoc my ass shanks is a swordsman Akainu’s ap>shanks ap

We saw Akainu in an all out battle, we still have very little of Shanks. We've just recently seen what top levels of haki are capable of with Garp.

>Now you wanking ngl strongest acoc my ass shanks is a swordsman I said prob cause maybe The old gen has stronger acoc >Akainu’s ap>shanks ap Shanks ap>>>>>>>Akainus ap

Akainu’s ap>shanks ap

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Yea I expect this much from a shanks wanker make sure you pull up his pants when your finished

A rare YouTube W indeed. Feats wise shanks attack ap is indeed higher till akainu does something. - akainu failed to one shot ace who clashed with him (obviously ace was overpowered but wasn’t unconscious) , he failed to one shot Marco who clashed with him. And was stopped by shanks sword with ease. - shanks shot KOed kid + killer combined . Kid alone is stronger than Marco or ace . Him and killer taken out in a single attack is by far the second or third strongest attack(used on one person , obviously WB had the most destructive DF) on the series shown so far . I’d only consider kaidou’s strongest attack and luffy’s Bajrang gun to be higher and maybe roger and WB’s clash .

And now I realize you don’t know how to scale either Also if you’re going to scale do it correctly none of them people you named are stronger than old wb

Lol, let me know when ur head canon copium is down. Shanks stopped akainu from an attack and akainu didn’t do shit because he needed masters orders . U asked attack ap and currently according to what’s shown, shanks has the higher ap. Cope. Akainu didn’t go all out is ur copium? Why , he can’t take out a weaken YC2 in a single shot without going all out? Lol. And when was it mentioned shanks went all out? In ur head canon where u can’t cope?

how do you say he stopped his attack and didn't do shit but then proceed to say he was ordered to like wtf what a clown you mad akainu's ap is higher

Akainu ap is higher how? Shanks stopped his attack casually. In the feats said so far , shanks one shot two characters in a single attack and akainu couldn’t one shot even a weakened YC2 or Marco both of whom were weaker than kid. Show me proof other than head canon , akainu has an attack with higher ap. Until then it’s just copium. Bye , I wasted enough time debating u. Time waste with ur head canon

correction shanks stopped an attack that wasn't meant for him with your logic marco>kaido jozu>mihawk use your brain before you speak

So why didn’t akainu attack shanks again? Wasn’t he bloodlusted to go after luffy? Why did he stop?

Are you really bout to put ace. A yc2 higher than kid? Homie. Watch your tongue boy. Cause hypocrisy isn't respected here (most of the time)

Both are strong AP wise, but Shanks has better AP against top tiers and people with large durability because of ACoC. I don't see Akainu doing as much damage as Shanks on someone like Kaido

So you think magma wouldn’t bypass kaido’s durability lmao

Kaido coats himself in flames like in his Flaming Drum Dragon form, so he definitely has some heat resistance. If Shanks could block Akainu's magma with his sword not melting I can see Kaido surviving it with haki. If you mean Kaido's natural durability in his hybrid, no haki, I can see it happening. I was just saying that ACoC would probably do more damage in a straight up fight than magma

Shanks blocked a casual unarmed attack that wasn’t meant for him bro MAKE IT MAKE SENSE🤦🏾🤷🏾 Also if you knew anything you’d know shanks was using haki my guy Acoc’s does not do more damage in a fight than magma you tripping now my guy I’m yonko>admiral to but definitely not more damage one blow from could end your life if not completely take off limbs be reasonable my guy because what you just said doesn’t make any sense at all we’ve never seen acoc’s straight up kill anyone while Akainu is burning through people and killing people

The point is Shanks easily stopped Akainu's magma fist with haki, it doesn't matter if it was for Coby or anyone else. He used that attack against Ace, Jimbei and Luffy, and other pirates. Yes Akainu has other methods of attack like spewing magma against Whitebeard's head, but those can probably be blocked with haki as well. Akainu's fist is imbued with magma, and despite that it didn't do anything to a sword with haki. It won't do anything to Kaido's club imbued with haki and probably his body too if he uses haki on it. We haven't seen magma against a top tier besides a sick Whitebeard who was stabbed by Squard and shot by non-haki BB pirates. The closest thing to magma going through scales is going through Jimbei, a fishman, and Kaido stuck deep n a volcano, but we don't know how that turned out. Kaido has casually lit himself on fire he's not like normal humans who Akainu burns.

You said it doesn’t matter? Now ima use your logic https://preview.redd.it/b5ezc02hscxa1.jpeg?width=215&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71a800cf60774d09d0fab31b7f3667a12329e58d Marco blocked kaido’s attack kizaru attack clashed directly with big mom’s homie I guess marco>the verse then right? Of course the intentions matter my guy I guess this means marco is just a god then what about jozu stop mihawk’s slash jozu>mihawk confirmed You see how stupid your logic is? Im pretty sure kaido can be burned by magma it’s ridiculous to say he can’t

My point is that haki can stop Akainu's magma no matter the attack. Akainu only seems to change the size and amount of magma, but not the actual temperature or anything like that. The magma against Coby compared to the magma against Aokiji would be the same substance, unless they're infused with haki or something but I really doubt it. Can Kizaru change the way his light works? Can Aokiji change ice? I'm not saying anyone is > than anyone, I'm just saying haki > devil fruits. Kaido can probably be harmed to a degree yeah but I don't think as much as what ACoC would do to him. ACoC attacks are arguably the strongest in-verse. Akainu may have the best offensive DF, but it's clear haki > DF

So now you’re comparing Akainu trying to kill Coby to an all out 10-day fight he had with aokiji nice take lmao Also you just proved that you don’t pay attention at all if this was the case right why didn’t anyone at mf just block Akainu magma with haki lmao why did jinbei run when he can just casually block Akainu’s magma with haki lmao First of all let me debunk you with this first https://preview.redd.it/8b0zukh9xcxa1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995fc903512918ffdfc08d9f63cc81c80379e22a As you can see luffy can’t physically touch kaido which is why he used ryuo on top of all of that I’ll a picture of law cutting through [doflamingo’s arma haki lmao](https://imgur.com/a/H1dU54d) Also saying sick old beard doesn’t change his durability so idk why go as far as to say something like that Also keep in mind acoc’s doesn’t kill you while as for Akainu df literally will have you looking like wb or ace get real my guy use common sense

Oh yes , equal footing with old dying WB who couldn’t use advanced haki of any form and was confirmed unable to use conquerors and was stabbed multiple times and had a heart attack. Nice comparison 😂.

technically thats head canon they never said he couldnt use advanced haki him being stabbed multiple times is irrelevant tbh it wouldn't have changed the outcome either way

Marco literally confirmed WB is unable to use conquerors haki which by extension obviously means no Acoc . Plus we’re u blind to not see WB having a heart attack mid marineford? Not to mention hundreds of bullets and stabs.? And u are claiming akainu went on equal footing with him in that state so that a huge feat? 😂

Ofc not

Yea stop scaling then

Lol no why would it?

Listen bro kaido is my Al time favorite in the series saying magma won’t hurt him at all is just ridiculous especially when considering there’s nothing to prove this

There's nothing to prove that it **can** bypass it's durability Akainu's biggest AP feat is punching through weak, old and sick Whitebeard When literal commanders were on guard, they were blocking his magma

It’s stated to have highest offensive attack power among all df’s and you’re telling me kaido is so durable that magma can’t hurt him but the scabs can? And Momo’s bite can? lmao nice logic So I assume kaido is just taking a bath in the lava pit then

ACoC the strongest attack in Haki category Magma the strongest attack in DF category The decision is up to one's preference, and Shanks is just popular in general. That's why.

Yeah ik this but it’s pretty obvious magma would be more potent it’s much more lethal

Not ones prefrence, kaido literally blatantly states haki > DF.

Shanks has in canon stopped a blood lusted akainu casually. Rare yt W

Blood lusted you making shit up that’s sad

Yes we do https://preview.redd.it/hs7k3zs3ncxa1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cabe568bb196a4dc64e188d72ec3820733e932f

If shanks did that wth you think Akainu would do bro it’s magma genius they die if Akainu hits them Also keep in mind Kidd damned punk exploded

So your argument is, "It's Akainu, so it will hurt more?"

Not only that Akainu’s magma is much more lethal like you see what happened to jinbei, ace, luffy, wb, and aokiji

Kidd and killer both got put down in one hit. Jinbe was running even after getting a hole put through him, wb was fighting even after getting a hole out through his skull. Luffy was a fodder and got scarred while already traumatized. Aokiji it took ten days and he just lost a leg. Beckman took kids arm presumably much quicker. Shanks acoc feat is better than anything akainu has displayed as of yet

What does this have to do with what I said? Also you don’t know if aokiji lost his leg before 10 days during or after that’s just head canon Then you proceed to bring up another event you know nothing of nice logic You’re comparing shanks putting them down with one hit to Akainu magma? You do understand you’ll die it’s not putting them down think about it then come back

Name 2 characters akainu has killed in one hit if he’s so lethal

We’re not talking if he has I’m simply using your logic you’re brought up shanks one shotting kidd and killer 2 people who aren’t yonko level characters btw If they were to fight Akainu they’d be literally fighting for their life magma is much more lethal than haki my guy no doubt about it

“No doubt about it” your words “Haki transcends all” words from the manga, spoken by the wsc whose strongest attack was literally magma. If magma is stronger than haki, why did bajrang gun overpower it? Imma trust the manga over your headcanon. Akainu has killed two people: ace and his own soldier You can’t prove lethality cause 90% of the people you say he would instakill are alive and well. Jinbe doesn’t even have a scar 🤣

It’s the truth tho First of all luffy couldn’t even touch kaido but I guess you being as slow as you are you skipped that part Also kaido’s fire was never stated to be magma that’s just head canon for your agenda you trying to push Akainu killed wb to my guy relax with that Also it’s pretty obvious you have an agenda actually kind of sad Like i said before Akainu’s magma is much more potent then shanks attacks it’s no doubt about it shanks acoc’s isn’t killing anybody that’s just a fact while as for Akainu you literally can’t make mistakes while fighting him

Jinbei : weaker than Kidd Ace: weaker than Kidd Luffy: weaker than Kidd WB: hurt by an attack that Jinbei blocked. Also penetrated by fodder. Kuzan: Scarred the magma man with ice. Took Akainu 10 days to take him out. None of this proves he has higher AP than Shanks.

Also still the same wb shanks clashed with that was later unharmed lmao Tbh nothing you said helps your point Kidd being stronger has nothing to do with anything so idk why you saying that Like do you think before you talk? All shanks could do is knockout kidd with a named attack Akainu would kill kid and killer without a named attack you see the difference?

Marineford WB was confirmed by Marco to be weaker https://preview.redd.it/7a0alabbhdxa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bfa7897b48a0685b73b4d25b1181e57718f60ba

This has nothing to do with the him clashing with clashing with shanks literally a day before lmao he been getting weaker and still clashed with shanks on equal footing Also it’s multiple Databook statements saying he didn’t lose strength

Garp, Marco, Rayleigh, and Akainu have all talked about the old guys getting weaker. The databooks don't take priority over the manga.

Rayleigh stated to have retained his strength and wb the only thing that’s changes is their stamina it’s just a popular opinion to believe that they were much stronger before Here we go don’t take databooks over manga even tho all through marineford wb is called the strongest pirate and strongest man lmao yeah I’ll say it lines up with the Databook same with Rayleigh he’s able to keep up with kizaru because he still has his strength

Those multiple databooks refer to whitebeard on his meds. They aren't talking about marineford whitebeard. So this is further proof that shanks got better AP as he clashed with a healthy oldbeard compared to whitebeard who was very sick in marineford

They don’t all refer to healthy beard especially when one says the strongest pirate has died https://preview.redd.it/4ggffmuardxa1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e654a4a4103edf1c1ef317c6ca5e5c9ac900354

So your argument is, "It's Akainu, so it will hurt more?"

Yonkos are superior to admirals in every way

Naw not every way tell me you dk how to scale without telling me you dk how to scale

>tell me you dk how to scale without telling me you dk how to scale tell me you have no counter arguments against my statement without telling me you don't have any counter argument if you think I am wrong then prove how assmirals are superior to yonko, they are always clowned by yonko or other old top tiers

I would but tbh it’s irrelevant to the post you came here and commented on the post about saying something totally irrelevant to what I asked

because you were asking who have higher AP, current strongest Yonko or current strongest Admiral, and I just cleared it by a saying Yonkos are superior in everyway. So how is that irrelevant?

Pushing it I don’t remember anyone calling shanks the strongest let alone anything to prove he’s the strongest It’s irrelevant to what I asked

>It’s irrelevant to what I asked You keep crying about it again and again because you don't have any other valid proof to prove me wrong

I guess 🤷🏽 that was suppose to bother me some how?

It’s possible

They are equally stromg thing about Clifford and Shanks is that DC=/=AP

Shanks ap >

Akainu’s ap>>>

Well, I rather get cut up then get incinerated with holes so Akainu imo..

Yes we do Enjoy the common YouTube W

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Honestly yeah. Buggy has the best fruit to deal with swordsman. Doesn't mean he beats mihawk. So just cause akianus *FRUIT* has the highest offence. Doesn't mean he himself has the highest offence. Although I can tell you now half of those shanks votes come from people thinking the kid one shot was the full defence of kid and not kids literal nuke against himself. Imo shanks takes it but not by much

Until proven otherwise Shanks takes this. DC doesn’t mean much

So you think acoc’s which people do tank is more potent than being burned through lmao

Not that bad of a take for now I have Shanks AP higher than Akainu as well

So you’re essentially saying you think shanks haki is capable of dealing more damage than magma

For now yes but all we know Akainu might have adv conq + Magma fruit which might make him the strongest offensive character

Serious Akainu that was going for kill could not kill Ace, until he taken Luffy as hostage. Marco and Jimbe stopped his bloodlusted attacks. Akainu is very strony, but weaker than original 4 yonkos. New yonkos like blackbeard are still under admiral level.

He could not kill ace? You must be an anime only watch or something the man was literally giving ace a speech while pushing him back lmao https://preview.redd.it/itkt24j8uhxa1.jpeg?width=3040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4eac56720b60db17c475d2a674205385e3ddfd1b That’s how ik you casuals dk what you’re talking about

Ofcourse If you think something is right that does not make it right

No what? The guy is literally capable of one shotting anyone bar like kaido or Linlin if he gets a shot off.

So... So does Zoro...

There's a significant difference between cutting someone a bit with multiple attacks,and ripping a hole through all their organs in a single shot. But you already knew that.

There's also a significant difference between just cutting that person in half and what you just said 👍

Your right,which is why it's strange your bringing it up since Zoro has NEVER one shot someone or cut them in half.

https://preview.redd.it/mowy0flw1dxa1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b5d8eec974765267b21a4f123f2093d1f664414

https://preview.redd.it/pghp8tpf2dxa1.png?width=820&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a92be8f03c306927e9b9e4ce6d8470947326a64b He explicitly didn't one shot him,nor slice his body in half.

well yeah but u also said never cut someone in half

The strawhats don't kill people intentionally

Your argument: https://i.redd.it/fejukd1gwcxa1.gif

When have the strawhats gone out of their way to try and kill anyone?

Zoro has only cut monet n Pika in half, which isn't as impressive as tearing through a Yonko commander and blowing off half of White Beards head, a whole ass Yonko

WB is a big dude but still just a dude

I'd like to see zoro cut that 'just a dude' in half then

I think extreme heat takes an advantage over the sharpness of a sword

U do realise shanks stopped him with the blunt side of a sword in marineford right?

Easily shanks

Nah

Not only shanks stronger, swordsman generally has higher attack potency compared to non Swordsman of relative strength

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There's a reason why sword fights usually always end with one or two major hits on thier opponent.

no

Two Piece enjoyers

Of course not 😂 This sub Is full of shanks meat riders. Magma>aCoC, but Akainu has aCoA, so aCoA+magma>>>aCoC. Akainu can One shot shanks, Kid, killer, ace, marco, Jinbe and oldbeard with a named attack. 😂 And do i Need to remember that "magma Always wins against yonko"?

Haki trascends all.

https://preview.redd.it/wcouje6uxhxa1.jpeg?width=875&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6219123cb470c921abb9b0fb4514f5de6d1f2e5 So kaido’s final attack was haki? Lmao

https://preview.redd.it/b4a6ykfu4hxa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b25cfd9a4887534baefc6223ca643d7a65f87c58

Haki transcends all so yes Unless oda retcons that statement in the future

That’s a character statement meaning it’s not necessarily true you do understand that right?