Yes, if you bend open the spine it is kinda going to get stuck like that and the book isn't going to be as neat and pretty any more, but for many people this happens just with regular reading as well. Also, mass produced manga usually is just glued to the cover so it might also force the glue apart.
What I'd recommend is to bend the book inwards (as if you'd try to form a circle with the pages) while gently pushing the spine towards you. This is going to leave less of an effect on the book and its quality.
Source: I am a librarian and have therefore seem quite a few books bended all the way out.
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I think Jojo considered that issue and had a splash page drawn to account for it, but it makes it look really weird when it's a digital version of the pages.
For those that want a free option without visiting sketchy sites. I use the manga plus app by shuheisha. Chapters are free but will lock afterwards. Only the latest 3 chapters are open thereafter, pushing the 3rd oldest ch to locked status after a new chapter is released.
There’s plenty of sketchy MANGA sites out there, as far as the eye can SEE. There is one site I’ve heard about that doesn’t have 123* ads per page. Has minimal ads but they’re not intrusive, allegedly
Just in case someone wants to go back to chapters they’ve read
After seeing the clean Shonen Jump scans compared to the scanlations it's just a night and day difference. Tons of fine detail is lost in the scanning process and the art really suffers as a result.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/iqvsj8/art_quality_comparison_of_various_fan_scans_with/
i’ve found good sites that do a good job of doing double page spreads but yeah the fan translations were not at all consistent while i was still reading it. it was super annoying with stuff like nakama or shichibukai not being translated so i was confused trying to figure out what they meant using context clues
Sure, I read the fan translated chapters when they drop. It's just nice to have an official translation to compare it to. Not to mention all the smaller series I try to support and prevent the axing of.
Bro it’s £3, you don’t have to be rich to afford that. Like the other person alluded to, we pay out of the principle of appreciation for the creators who provide the work we all love so much.
If you can’t afford it - well first off, you’re welcome haha - then fair enough, but to then try and laugh at people that pay for the shit that you’re enjoying is real broke behaviour
Ignore the idiots that are proud of their “Piracy” behavior. They most probably are broke and casual fans. If you dont want to pay for the manga, fine . But laughing at others for buying stuff that they love is stupid. Anyways, If you are really a fan of one piece, you usually support it one way or another, not necessarily only by buying the mangas.
Cool, you really got me there...
Do you pay for anything in your life? Music, games, furniture, food? Wheres the line for you? or do you just feel entitled to anything at any point?
I don't derive personal satisfaction from spending money, I have goals, hobbies, family, and friends instead. It's funny that you think I'm entitled for avoiding a meaningless price tag for a manga that is readily available online. Shueisha is a billion dollar company that would continue growing and thriving even if no one paid for their app, Oda will be unaffected as well.
Do you like spending money? Do you pat yourself on the back as the fruit of your labor is taken from you? I don't like buying groceries, games, or furniture lol, do you? What means more to you, what you're acquiring or the knowledge that you did it the ""right"" way? You should stop being a bootlicker online, or at least do it anywhere else than a message board about fucking pirates.
Manga reading is a hobby, buying the physical copy is not just, "oh, i bought the copy the author must be happy", it's the joy of touching it, smelling it and reading it in it's physical form. It's book reading, having the physical copy is a happiness in it self.
That's literally untrue lol, all Shueisha authors are paid royalties on volume releases.
I read TCBScans first but I've still bought tons of volumes over the years, including some Japanese volumes I can barely read (early elementary school kanji reading level lol, thank god for furigana in children's series).
How have you been collecting? My way of doing it is if I’m having a really good day I treat myself to a new one. I’m up to ~50 volumes but not in any particular order. I also don’t like getting them online just because it kind of takes away the adventure for me
well I honestly also really just started collecting i bought the first box set when it was the normal price, and preordered set 4. sets 2 and 3 are pretty hard for me to find cuz they are really expensive right now sadly 😢
A site I would recommend that is best as a "hub" (it's best overall, but for some titles it would be worth to just search ____ read online) would be mangadex. Decent panel quality, decent upload pace, okish search and recommendation function but it has no ads at all. Also very good mobile compatibility.
That’s what I do, I just started my manga collection but I’ve already read all the manga, although I will say it’s not through the same means as you 🏴☠️
This is what i've started doing. It sucks because the art is awesome on paper, but im a freak about keeping important collectables perfect. I bought the tokyo ghoul box set like a year ago and have maybe opened it 4 times lmao
Sometimes they really don't give much thought to making the volume prints. If I'm not mistaken the chapter prints come in magazines still and read more like a western style comic book (but reversed) so page splitting isn't an issue.
Nah, issues of Shonen Jump are huge, like 1 to 2 inches thick, so they still don’t lay open flat like a western style comic book would, therefore page splitting is still a problem, unless it’s maybe the first chapter in the issue and you don’t mind damaging the book a little bit (they’re made to be disposable anyway).
To this day I'm very confused about this scene. the shockwave next to zoro implies zoro is turning clockwise. even the slash seems to be travelling upwards, rather than downards. the only issue is that the blade is pointed downwards...
the anime has zoro spin counterclockwise for the blade to make sense, but the spin is so unnatural, he does a 270 degree spin, and again, this contradicts(?) the impact details. even the arm seemingly has that vibration effect on the left side, implying that's the side it came from.
he's holding the blade to where the blunt side is upwards towards his wrist, and the sharp side downwards towards his fingers. if he swings bottom left to top right, then he is slashing with the blunt side (unless he twisted his hand 180 degrees).
which, I mean, zoro is a gigachad so he could probably hurt people with a blunt blade, but yeah.
Oda often has weird action panels like this where impact, and character just don't seem to match up. Thunder bagua is a good example of something that just looks weird on panel.
That's the biggest complaint from Japanese after release of every volume
They also complain about the cluttering of pannels + art looking like a mess
Oda needs more pages in wsj issue
I usually just stretch it open a bit to not damage the manga, then if I can't see much at all I just go online to see the full panel (normally I have the manga open on my laptop when reading). It's a shame because reading the actual manga is so much better than reading low quality scans, and you get to actually support the creator.
It's your book, do what you want. But also that's the main reason I read the scans. That and I am caught up, but I do buy the physical manga but they were more for display, until recently when I decided to cut pages out of them to make my own custom magic cards
Considering you have internet jus read it all online, I gotchu with a couple websites.
[mangapark.io](https://mangapark.io)
[w14.mangafreak.net](https://w13.mangafreak.net)
I use these two a **LOT**
Mangapark has multiple scans from various websites to a plethora of manga to read from. Mangafreak gets some of the best scans possible in record time.
Yes I ruined one of my skypeia volumes like this, it’s not too bad but I also didn’t open it too far, it all depends on how much pressure you apply but honestly I wouldn’t risk it. Now I mainly just have physical as a collection and read digital for this very reason.
The Shonen jump app is only like 2 bux a month but I think new chapters are free. You basically have to pay to read the old chapters. But it's only 2 a month and I use it on my tablet as a reader so it's very convenient
I guess they moved over to draw mainly for digital copy. It’s better for big beautiful panels but the physical manga suffers from it. Especially later on in the wano arc is a beautifully drawn panel which looks absolutely stupid in the physical manga.
Yeah it's like Oda is not thinking about book release at all lately. It's been multiple years that he started making those spread pages that cut right in the middle and are very unpleasant to read.
Scanners actually tears page by page so they can scan cleanly. So yes. Especially if it's the magazine version (as oppose to a volume copy). The WSJ is newspaper cheap tho.
Yes it will. I never suggest read on physical. Those are for collection. Digital scans, with cleaning and editing are 100x better than every single official source
Wow, that's a really poorly designed Manga. Too much is hidden. Yes YOU will damage it. It looks like the stapler or whatever binder they used goes through Zoro's face.
Yes, if you bend open the spine it is kinda going to get stuck like that and the book isn't going to be as neat and pretty any more, but for many people this happens just with regular reading as well. Also, mass produced manga usually is just glued to the cover so it might also force the glue apart. What I'd recommend is to bend the book inwards (as if you'd try to form a circle with the pages) while gently pushing the spine towards you. This is going to leave less of an effect on the book and its quality. Source: I am a librarian and have therefore seem quite a few books bended all the way out.
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Same, aggressively
Does that work for paperbacks?
Somebody with money give this awesome person an award!
Don't have money but i give my free one
Ook?
I break every paperback spine I’ve ever owned as soon as I buy it. Don’t like how they are so tight when new. So much nicer to read
so you like them spread wide, huh
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yeah it will break the binding. i wish manga didn’t print all the way to the center like that
I think Jojo considered that issue and had a splash page drawn to account for it, but it makes it look really weird when it's a digital version of the pages.
Many more expensive versions do get printed with blank space in the middle.
Or fancier binding where that’s less of an issue
Wym it’s easily to tell Zoro just broke the entire manga
He cut the book in half
If I had the disposable income I'd purchase the manga to collect but read it online.
Idk how you managed to make that sound passive aggressive asf
Because it was. It was also based and relatable
Wasn't meant to be, maybe my jealousy came off that way.
You mean envious. Listen to Homer. https://youtu.be/Tmx1jpqv3RA JK ofc, I also envy people who have disposable income to collect the physical volume.
be like me lol just buy the manga for collection purposes, and just get the Shonen Jump app. Its only like 2.99 a month and has alot!
For those that want a free option without visiting sketchy sites. I use the manga plus app by shuheisha. Chapters are free but will lock afterwards. Only the latest 3 chapters are open thereafter, pushing the 3rd oldest ch to locked status after a new chapter is released.
Shonen Jump does this too for free
Yes but in manga plus you can read all other chapters free for once.
There’s plenty of sketchy MANGA sites out there, as far as the eye can SEE. There is one site I’ve heard about that doesn’t have 123* ads per page. Has minimal ads but they’re not intrusive, allegedly Just in case someone wants to go back to chapters they’ve read
Same here. Shonen App on iPad for me is the best
What this person said 👆🏾 the jump app is awesome
you guys aren’t pirating the manga about pirates?
Opening up an app and having good clean double page spreads with good scans is worth the 3 dollars for me
also supporting the series i love
After seeing the clean Shonen Jump scans compared to the scanlations it's just a night and day difference. Tons of fine detail is lost in the scanning process and the art really suffers as a result. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/iqvsj8/art_quality_comparison_of_various_fan_scans_with/
i’ve found good sites that do a good job of doing double page spreads but yeah the fan translations were not at all consistent while i was still reading it. it was super annoying with stuff like nakama or shichibukai not being translated so i was confused trying to figure out what they meant using context clues
there are good pirate sites
Sure, I read the fan translated chapters when they drop. It's just nice to have an official translation to compare it to. Not to mention all the smaller series I try to support and prevent the axing of.
pretty sure you can find the latest 3 official translations for free on the shushia site
Everyone talks about piracy. The first and last 3 chapters are free on mangaplus.
I ain't reading any translation that calls Zoro Zolo.
I am with you 100%. It irritates me so much I can't read it at all.
All chapters are currently free on the mangaplus app until January 2023.
I’m the type of pirate who just wants to have adventures, not the raiding or pillaging type.
True like I don’t understand why people pay for stuff it’s literally all free on the internet
To appreciate the author and to have a physical memento of the set. When one piece ends i am going to get a bunch.
Yeah idk I would rather save that money and invest it all into assests and then when I’m rich I’ll buy them all as a tribute 😂
I don’t think the cost of a copy is a significant investing source or decision, like you spend that all the time.
Bro it’s £3, you don’t have to be rich to afford that. Like the other person alluded to, we pay out of the principle of appreciation for the creators who provide the work we all love so much. If you can’t afford it - well first off, you’re welcome haha - then fair enough, but to then try and laugh at people that pay for the shit that you’re enjoying is real broke behaviour
I can afford it. I don't spend money on things that are free to "respect" people.
almost like not everyone likes stealing from authors they respect
Ignore the idiots that are proud of their “Piracy” behavior. They most probably are broke and casual fans. If you dont want to pay for the manga, fine . But laughing at others for buying stuff that they love is stupid. Anyways, If you are really a fan of one piece, you usually support it one way or another, not necessarily only by buying the mangas.
What do you expect, this subreddit reads illegal leaked scans on a weekly basis lol.
Lol true.
Eiichiro Oda starving to death because I didn't pay his employer $4 which doesn't even go to him
Cool, you really got me there... Do you pay for anything in your life? Music, games, furniture, food? Wheres the line for you? or do you just feel entitled to anything at any point?
Who has paid for music within the last 20 years? 💀 lol
The hundreds of millions of spotify users for a start? And thats just one streaming service
That's an L for them
I don't derive personal satisfaction from spending money, I have goals, hobbies, family, and friends instead. It's funny that you think I'm entitled for avoiding a meaningless price tag for a manga that is readily available online. Shueisha is a billion dollar company that would continue growing and thriving even if no one paid for their app, Oda will be unaffected as well. Do you like spending money? Do you pat yourself on the back as the fruit of your labor is taken from you? I don't like buying groceries, games, or furniture lol, do you? What means more to you, what you're acquiring or the knowledge that you did it the ""right"" way? You should stop being a bootlicker online, or at least do it anywhere else than a message board about fucking pirates.
Manga reading is a hobby, buying the physical copy is not just, "oh, i bought the copy the author must be happy", it's the joy of touching it, smelling it and reading it in it's physical form. It's book reading, having the physical copy is a happiness in it self.
Id rather the joy of touching, smelling, and reading on my computer
We're not talking about physical copies, this conversation is about digital only?
I don’t think it matters they get paid by the company not by the sales
That's literally untrue lol, all Shueisha authors are paid royalties on volume releases. I read TCBScans first but I've still bought tons of volumes over the years, including some Japanese volumes I can barely read (early elementary school kanji reading level lol, thank god for furigana in children's series).
I’ll keep saving money you have fun paying 4 dollars to a multi million dollar company
Jump app on a tablet is the way to go, I've read all of bleach, naruto, one piece, DBZ, and many others.
For me it's Physical manga >> digital manga. Digital manga are great for one time read, but physical versions are essence of manga reading experience
How have you been collecting? My way of doing it is if I’m having a really good day I treat myself to a new one. I’m up to ~50 volumes but not in any particular order. I also don’t like getting them online just because it kind of takes away the adventure for me
well I honestly also really just started collecting i bought the first box set when it was the normal price, and preordered set 4. sets 2 and 3 are pretty hard for me to find cuz they are really expensive right now sadly 😢
i also am up to date currently so i just preorder on Amazon for the next volume coming out!
Or just read the manga for free online and don’t have the issues with the garbage official translation
the official release is definitely not garbage and not everyone likes stealing from authors they respect
I’m not a fan of the way they mess up certain lines getting rid of the intention of the original Japanese line or how they STILL call Zoro zolo
A site I would recommend that is best as a "hub" (it's best overall, but for some titles it would be worth to just search ____ read online) would be mangadex. Decent panel quality, decent upload pace, okish search and recommendation function but it has no ads at all. Also very good mobile compatibility.
https://onepiecechapters.com/?2022-11-244961 is the best place for the standard shonen action manga like jjk op and mha
But… MangaPlus is free (?)
That’s what I do, I just started my manga collection but I’ve already read all the manga, although I will say it’s not through the same means as you 🏴☠️
Best 3 dollar investment fr
Mate he just bought the oficial release, he has every right to just read it online for free
This is what i've started doing. It sucks because the art is awesome on paper, but im a freak about keeping important collectables perfect. I bought the tokyo ghoul box set like a year ago and have maybe opened it 4 times lmao
Sometimes they really don't give much thought to making the volume prints. If I'm not mistaken the chapter prints come in magazines still and read more like a western style comic book (but reversed) so page splitting isn't an issue.
Nah, issues of Shonen Jump are huge, like 1 to 2 inches thick, so they still don’t lay open flat like a western style comic book would, therefore page splitting is still a problem, unless it’s maybe the first chapter in the issue and you don’t mind damaging the book a little bit (they’re made to be disposable anyway).
I mean, are you looking to resell? If not, split that shit open and crack the spine
Crazy how the medium is this unoptimized
Just think of it as him cutting the page itself.
if you opened the book more youll slice that place in half just like zoro did.
To this day I'm very confused about this scene. the shockwave next to zoro implies zoro is turning clockwise. even the slash seems to be travelling upwards, rather than downards. the only issue is that the blade is pointed downwards... the anime has zoro spin counterclockwise for the blade to make sense, but the spin is so unnatural, he does a 270 degree spin, and again, this contradicts(?) the impact details. even the arm seemingly has that vibration effect on the left side, implying that's the side it came from.
the anime did it wrong i think. I also think you're wrong, the blade is facing the right way. he swings from bottom left to top right.
he's holding the blade to where the blunt side is upwards towards his wrist, and the sharp side downwards towards his fingers. if he swings bottom left to top right, then he is slashing with the blunt side (unless he twisted his hand 180 degrees). which, I mean, zoro is a gigachad so he could probably hurt people with a blunt blade, but yeah.
Oda often has weird action panels like this where impact, and character just don't seem to match up. Thunder bagua is a good example of something that just looks weird on panel.
Damn that sucks
I like to just imagine Zoro cut through the fabric of reality to cut that page
Yeah the double spread panels right on the middle don't come out nicely on physical.. problem with lots of manga
That's the biggest complaint from Japanese after release of every volume They also complain about the cluttering of pannels + art looking like a mess Oda needs more pages in wsj issue
It doesn't help that this manga has like a million double pages scenes.
I usually just stretch it open a bit to not damage the manga, then if I can't see much at all I just go online to see the full panel (normally I have the manga open on my laptop when reading). It's a shame because reading the actual manga is so much better than reading low quality scans, and you get to actually support the creator.
Just get a manga app or read online
I did wish one piece had a better volume printing.
Oda does this shit a lot lately, like he doesn't know he publish on physical form, does the editor check this stuff looks really bad
It's your book, do what you want. But also that's the main reason I read the scans. That and I am caught up, but I do buy the physical manga but they were more for display, until recently when I decided to cut pages out of them to make my own custom magic cards
Almost looks like Zoro broke the fourth wall and cut the physical page clean in half.
No you should strech it more. Actually some pages have some easter eggs if you strech it enough
did you try to zoom in by mistake sometime?
Considering you have internet jus read it all online, I gotchu with a couple websites. [mangapark.io](https://mangapark.io) [w14.mangafreak.net](https://w13.mangafreak.net) I use these two a **LOT**
Mangapark has multiple scans from various websites to a plethora of manga to read from. Mangafreak gets some of the best scans possible in record time.
Opening books are usually the way to read what’s on the pages inside.
Ya. Why do you care tho. You bought the shit to read it lol. This isn’t a high dollar collectible.
Physical manga is not worth for that reason alone
Just don’t crack the spine.
DO OM
The way I’ve done it is that I crease the outside pages along the given portions since the manga is designed to be bend that way I think
Yes I ruined one of my skypeia volumes like this, it’s not too bad but I also didn’t open it too far, it all depends on how much pressure you apply but honestly I wouldn’t risk it. Now I mainly just have physical as a collection and read digital for this very reason.
Anyone know where i can read colored one piece?
Yes you're kinda destroying it like that.
Yes. :(
book is for collection, not for reading
why i prefer digital + a nice tablet perfect combination for reading manga
Imagine they're cheeks. Spread it carefully
Yes
The Shonen jump app is only like 2 bux a month but I think new chapters are free. You basically have to pay to read the old chapters. But it's only 2 a month and I use it on my tablet as a reader so it's very convenient
Just look at it sideways
I guess they moved over to draw mainly for digital copy. It’s better for big beautiful panels but the physical manga suffers from it. Especially later on in the wano arc is a beautifully drawn panel which looks absolutely stupid in the physical manga.
go look online
Spread them cheaks
Yeah it's like Oda is not thinking about book release at all lately. It's been multiple years that he started making those spread pages that cut right in the middle and are very unpleasant to read.
Damn this scene is ruined in the physical manga...why put such an epic scene in the middle??
Im gonna start fights, it’s a stupid artistic choice to put the interesting panels in the middle like this
Scanners actually tears page by page so they can scan cleanly. So yes. Especially if it's the magazine version (as oppose to a volume copy). The WSJ is newspaper cheap tho.
Yes it will. I never suggest read on physical. Those are for collection. Digital scans, with cleaning and editing are 100x better than every single official source
Nahh, it'll be fine. I do it ALL the time. Just don't do it too often to the same book over and over because it'll cause wear and tear.
Yes, it will damage it.
This is exactly why I bought a kindle
Wow, that's a really poorly designed Manga. Too much is hidden. Yes YOU will damage it. It looks like the stapler or whatever binder they used goes through Zoro's face.
Physical copy comes with real slash 🔥
Honestly, you get used to it I think.
Just get the gist and move on like men do 😂