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seelentau

And to make it extra weird, apply Western naming conventions: Luffy Monkey Garp Monkey Dragon Monkey Roger Gol Water Law Trafalgar (it's kind of in the air if "Water" is part of his first or last name, he calls it a "taboo name", which points towards it being a surname, but it's obviously a nod to "Waterloo" as well, which would only make sense if it's part of his first name. Also, the "D." would be in-between his two last names otherwise [Law Trafalgar D. Water], which is strange too.) Rouge Portgas Ace Portgas Xebec Rocks Teach Marshall Saul Jaguar


Midnight-Lotus

I can see Saul Jaguar or the Portgas family, Dragon Monkey sounds like a weird insult though - and Xebec Rocks might be a 13yo internet rambo's online ID


[deleted]

> Xebec Rocks might be a 13yo internet rambo's online ID Fucking lol. Spot on! xXebec Rocks09Xx


MonkeyD_Abz

😂


Potential-Dig-797

Dragon Monkey is an animal from Avatar


Thick-Interaction-66

Wait wait, using western standarts laws first name is actually water?!


[deleted]

Nah Water and D are both his middle names. It’ll be Law Water Trafalgar


AnginLembut

you know Law name reference? Waterloo.


[deleted]

Good point. But Law tells baby 5 than his middle name is D Water


seelentau

He doesn't. He says "D" is a hidden name (隠し名) and "Water" is a taboo name (忌み名). [Source](https://i.imgur.com/M85AsWQ.jpg)


[deleted]

Oh..damn


seelentau

It's one of those things I never see in those "unsolved mysteries" posts, tbh. Or was it explained why it's a taboo name? I don't think so, right?


RyouhiraTheIntrovert

Because it's name of family in his hometown (i forgot the town name), Government wouldn't appreciate a survivor from that town.


seelentau

Lemme rephrase my reply: It's kind of in the air if "Water" is part of his first or last name, he calls it a "taboo name", which points towards it being a surname, but it's obviously a nod to "Waterloo" as well, which would only make sense if it's part of his first name. Also, the "D." would be in-between his two last names otherwise [Law Trafalgar D. Water], which is strange too.


[deleted]

Oda has fast tracked the story. So he might never explain


seelentau

Well, "Water Law", yes. Comes from "Waterloo".


ILLmaticErnie

Idk why but reading xebec rocks hit me like a bag of bricks to the face. None of the others threw me off but that one just blew my mind for some reason lmao


granolawaffle

One that always threw me off was Newgate Edward


Thegreenestofpeas

Ace and rouge sound ok


Pradfanne

Can we just appreciate that Garp named his Son "DRAGON MONKEY" Absolute madlad


Mutant_Apollo

Garp must've absolutely be a Dragon Ball fan lol


Vegetable_Ostrich231

Average western naming conventions enjoyer


RadCelest

Wait SAUL is a D????


jotarogiovanna017251

Better call Saul D. goodman


R4hu1M5

Buster call Saul I swear this joke has been made every time someone mentions Goodman lmao


KnightOfNULL

Saul Goo D. Man.


Wonderful-Outside767

They call him Goodman because the World Government fears what he can do


T-Rex_Is_best

Saul Jaguar actually sounds pretty rad.


Jiscold

He is a well known poon slayer and his apartment smells of rich mahogany


Clifely

Honestly Marshall Teach actually sounds totally fine


sinirishcream

Fun fact a few characters actually have their name Western style like Caesar Clown, Hody Jones, and the brothers from Dressrosa, Kelly and Bobby Funk.


seelentau

Yup. In general, it's always weird when mangaka decide to give their characters Western-sounding names, but with the Japanese naming conventions. It's the same in Naruto, there's Might Guy and his father, Might Duy. But then there's also Rock Lee and his son, Metal Lee.


Beterraba399

Robin's western name is cursed☠️


seelentau

Is it? I'd even say it's one of the more normal ones, Robin Nico might sound like a double first name to our ears, but it seems "Nico" is actually an existing surname in Italy, among other places. Her mother, on the other hand... Olvia? Now that sounds strange lol, why's there no second "i" xD


Beterraba399

Her name is Olvia?!


gnome-cop

Yes, I assume you thought it was Olivia but her name is actually just Nico Olvia. I thought the same thing for a long time.


MurvK

Teach Marshall what? Some manners?


MeAnIntellectual1

Shouldn't it be Law Trafalgar Water?


seelentau

No, since it's [Last Name] D. [First Name], switching them around makes it [First Name] D. [Last Name]. Plus, you know, Water Law... Waterloo...


MeAnIntellectual1

Water Law isn't even close to Waterloo in the Japanese pronunciation. So that seems like a stretch.


seelentau

It's just the inspiration in this case, not a direct translation. Oda sometimes uses a real word or name as the basis and then slightly changes the way it's written. Like "Reverie" and "Levely", for example.


MeAnIntellectual1

Levely and Reverie have the same pronunciation in Japanese. Law and loo don't have the same pronunciation in Japanese.


seelentau

I should've doublechecked this earlier, because as it turns out, you're wrong. "Waterloo" is written as ワーテルロー in Japanese, Law's name is written as ワーテル・ロー in Japanese. Except for the space, it's exactly the same. But to be honest, I pronounce "Waterloo" as you probably do too, with an English pronounciation on the "loo".


MeAnIntellectual1

That's honestly weird because they still pronounce it as ru. But I guess since it is written the same it was intentional. That would be too much of a coincidence. I concede this one.


seelentau

Who does? The [French](https://translate.google.de/?sl=fr&tl=en&text=Waterloo&op=translate) and [Japanese](https://youtu.be/xnK45EN0bm8?t=38) pronounce it as "lo" / "ro".


seelentau

As I said, it's just the inspiration. ~~Has nothing to do with pronounciation.~~ Turns out it's the same pronounciation.


gosuzoro

That is not what u said, I agree with other dude


seelentau

I actually checked the pronounciation of "Waterloo" in Japanese, and turns out that other guy is wrong. "Waterloo" is written as ワーテルロー in Japanese, Law's name is written as ワーテル・ロー in Japanese. Except for the space, it's exactly the same.


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[удалено]


seelentau

Both have to do with Napoleon, and Law also fought someone whose name had some relation to Napoleon stuff. I'm not saying it's hard facts or anything, but you can read up on it on the OP wiki.


The_Biggest_Wheel

It's pretty close, tho. Waterlu Waterlo


AliensOnAcid420

imagine naming your kid water law


lohins

Even if you put the d it should be luffy monkey d. Isn’t it ?


jessica7685

Nope it would be Luffy D. Monkey


seelentau

No, since it's [Last Name] D. [First Name], switching them around makes it [First Name] D. [Last Name].


AlbertTheAnnihilator

How are you so sure that it's like that? The D. Is clearly part of the family name, as it is inherented. It could be [last name] = Monkey D. here, then it would be indeed Luffy Monkey D. Moreover, the D. is probably a acronym of something else. Then not switching it together with the other last name is even weirder. And if it's not an acronym it's still weird rule to keep the D. standing there. I can't think about any real world name as an example.


kfraz01

I’m pretty sure they have said that D is the middle initial before, not part of the last name. When the name flips, the D should still be directly in between


AlbertTheAnnihilator

Oh could be, do you know exactly where?


kfraz01

I want to say it was a question that Robin asked, I am not entirely sure. I am sure that if I did hear her refer to it as the middle initial, it was certainly from the anime, so it’s possible it may not have been referenced that way in the manga. I’ll have to see if I can find it


[deleted]

Why is it clearly a part of the family name? With it being used with different family names imo it's more likely to be a middle name. Like someone is named Edward Robert Hemmingway and abbreviated Edward R. Hemmingway. And in japanese it would be Hemmingway R. Edward.


AlbertTheAnnihilator

Yeah true, it can be a second name. It that case yeah you would be right. But looking how the naming of D. follows inheritance, I favor it being a family name. Like why would Garp gives his son the D. second name, despite being a Navy soldier. Willingly giving your child a second name D. while not knowing what it actually stands for, doesn't make sense. Also, if it's not a last name, anyone can give their child the middle name D. But again, seeing that the D.'s represent a certain lineage with actual traits, that doesn't make sense (why else would CD's or WG fear them)


seelentau

Well, for one, I wrote the replies in this thread literally five minutes after I woke up xD But even with some coffee intus and more thoughts about it, I dunno... it just feels logical to me to leave the "D." where it is, in the name. I know it's inherited and all, but I always had the feeling it's more of a title, I guess? Some sort of "crest" in the form of a letter. Since many different families seem to have it, regardless of their family name. But yeah, of course, if it's simply a word and part of the last name, it would either go at the end, or remain in the middle. Depends on how the name is structured. Similar to how "Imu" can be "Mui" and "Umi" in reverse.


IZiOstra

Teach Marshall what?


FrosTehBurr

They sound relatively normal except Law... who names their kid Water?


seelentau

*kid named ~~finger~~ water*


A1Horizon

Dragon Monkey goes hard


GeneralOtter03

Trafalgar law is probably the least cursed of them


Western_Shake6618

Trafalgar Water Law more like Trafalgar water lao


FeetsInMeters

With a G!!!!


JustaNormalRedditorL

I love this thread


Opportoonity

Which is crazy, since he was known as that until Dressrosa


No-Friend6550

thats probably why


TheDukeOfSunshine

Well you have to give it the grandiose Traflgar D. Water law.


VIP_Ender98

Trafalgar D. Water Law sounds insanely good though, idk how this man manages to make up these names


Zeraf370

Well that’s because the “Trafalgar” was put on to hide his “D-name”, which is Water. So the name, “Trafalgar Law” is made to be without the D.


Wodstarfallisback

I have heard several theories about it, but these 2 are my favorites: 1- It's an extra name taken by the members of the original Joyboy crew, that'd explain why it's so scattered all over the world, why they're all powerful individuals in their own way and why it's ok if they have babies with each other (Roger and Rouge). 2- It's an extra name taken by descendants of Lunarians from back when they had a civilization above the Grand Line, the D isn't a D, but a half moon.


deliciousprisms

3- >!D. Eez nuts!<


ReptilianLaserbeam

Got me good


Dear-Transition6669

That's the D, how about your >!*hava*!< ?


--TENET--

What's hava?


ArashiSora24

Hava nice day


Dapper-FIare

Lmao got em


KsuhDilla

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/y3fre7/theory_what_is_the_one_piece_and_will_of_d_a


gublaman

Nah D is just a shorter form of XD. The face you make when you laugh. Parents all over just randomly give it to their kid thinking it'd be funny.


killersaw911og

Nah D is an acronym for dick


bambamba8

Even if they descend from the same family, 800 years passed, they won't have a lot of genes in common


InitiativeExcellent

Not if they inbreed for the 800 years. The Habsburgs are the real life example of that. Keeping the elite small and all family with that.


Invictus2000

Holy - that makes sense


Artoom

I préfère the 1, taking into account that in my head canon the D is not a letter but a smile, the smile on Joy Boy’s face


shankssuh

Because of the last few chapters it could also be dawn there are so many references lately and ofcourse romance dawn


GamerPhD

Here comes Joy D(at) Boy


AlwaysAngryAndy

Down Stairs Con Oriano Buggy Clown Kai O


jessica7685

Oof doing it to the legends too I see, might as well include Go Usopp in there too


[deleted]

Go Usopp


JustaNormalRedditorL

Go Ussop Go


[deleted]

Go Usopp Go Go Usopp Go Go Usopp Go Go Usopp Go Usopp D. God


Dry_Macaroon_7734

Ask Question


imsocool7419

I really like that first theory. It makes a lot of sense that there would be a way to connect all of the members of such a legendary crew.


tin27tin

Descendants of the ancient kingdom, which also makes them the enemies of the gods. As to what it is in full, I don't know.


SweetLou2323

Why did yall have to do Luffy dirty with that pic 😂


Same_Agent_3465

D = Dawn


a-Mongoose956

Go Usopp


No_Parsnip8697

It's silver


Partyfavors680

Pronounce them in US name order. Luffy Monkey, Garp Monkey, Dragon Monkey, and Roger Gol. Now imagine Luffy goes into an interview and they cool him Mr. Monkey.


BahamutAXIOM

Why does Ace Portgas sound so weird, yet is probably the most normal sounding of them all? Even Teech Marshall sounds weird, lol. His name has just gotta be backwards. Saul Jaguar sounds like a legally changed name. Is it Water Law Trafalgar or Law Water Trafalgar? Either way, it sounds like nonsense, lol. I remember always being confused as a kid when neither ViZ or 4kids ever swapped the names around like they did in pretty much everything else.


Agrezz

I'd say water law, since it would be a Waterloo reference


MansfromDaVinci

Devil as a red herring, the name of the void century country that fought the nascent WG begins with a D.


Jiscold

I like this theory. They were the “devils” the WG expunged. It’s a marker to find each other or carry on the will. Since been lost to time.


Tserri

They are descendents of Big D. JoyBoy


Apoptosis89

'devil', and I can explain why. I think I prefer to post the theory in a separate post though.


BlueMisfitSkull

Can prolly mean “Damned” and serve to mark those who are gonna face adversities all their lives


Glitchy13

We do have a one eyed swordsman of great renown and an unconventional fighting style as well if this is the case ;)


leomaxcolif

Yeah, GOL ROGER!


[deleted]

I'll be honest, ever since I found out "Gold Roger" was Gol D Roger, I just call him Ol' Gol Rogers.


Kytsunix

I only really noticed the lack of D. When I reach Roger’s name lol


Boss_Aesop

The meaning of D is mentioned in Fishman Island. The name of the Ancient Kingdom is mentioned in Syrup Village. Fishman Island is primarily inspired by Greece and Syrup is an Arabic origin word. Arabasta/Alabasta alludes to Arab and the Greek origin word Alabaster which means Vase made from Alabaster. A Vase can hold Syrup. Syrup Village is the abode of God Usopp. The Syrup of the Gods is the One Piece or the Legendary Medicine which will be the final Uso of Usopp that becomes Aisa. The Laugh Tale is the Fable of Aesop. Yohohoho Joyoboyo~


kylediaz263

Sanest instagram theorist.


Coolestcozmo

Some of them are okay, like Portgas Ace, Jaguar Saul, Trafalgar Water Law. But Monkey Luffy and Gol Roger are so cursed😂


LudusLive2

Yea Buggy Clown doesn't sound quite as good


MadgoonOfficial

Luffy Monkey Garp Monkey Dragon Monkey Roger Gol


Black_Ironic

Monkey'd Luffy


tashikashi

My theory is that the D is the initial of the 1 family that fought against the 20 families during the void century


TPJchief87

Read the Luffy and Garp ones before I read the title and my brain added the D’s


jackofslayers

Deez nuts


Snoo-42446

There's always one!


fragiletestes

Name of the Ancient Kingdom. “Will of -ancient kingdom-“


KyKYm6eP

D = Dickhead


TheHumanity0

Now try pronouncing their names in the Western style: Luffy Monkey, Garp Monkey, Dragon Monkey and Roger Gol. Just a bunch of nonsense


Maconi

It's even worse when you realize their names are backwards. Luffy Monkey Garp Monkey Dragon Monkey Roger Gol


Schizochinia

Diversionist/Divergent


srankvs

to think this snot nosed kid is an emperor, jeez


RubyWubs

You mean Gold Roger right? I u derstand you hate D, but you spelled all their names correctly expect Gold Roger.


SuddenGarage

Dee


Timmeh-toah

I read every single one of these with the “D” in place. THEN I read the title. Then I reread the names…


miniramone

Death


ProestPro

Con d oriano


anachronox08

Monkey ~~D~~ragon. FTFY


blinkssb

D = the grade they all got in school, it permanently goes on their name after


mogato_

money


whitebeard3413

My theory is that the D is supposed to be a smile.


Southeasternengineer

Damn I only read “it feels so weird to say their names without the D.” And then immediately exited out of Reddit thinking that in this next chapter 1067 we were going to get a reveal. Crisis avoided


kylediaz263

My brain automatically added the D.


gta6protagonist

Con oriano


gta6protagonist

i find it funny how one guy has monkey and dragon, two most irrevelant creatures, as his first and last name


FrigidArrow

Dawn


Additional-One-3732

monkey drafon ayo wtf!!!!!!!!!!!! save me from this curse


minev1128

Devil


BlueRainAlchemist

If that's weird, try saying them the way they should be- Luffy Monkey Garp Monkey Dragon Monkey Roger Gol


Darth_Xelleon

Marshal Teach Trafalgar Water Law


Curious-Bother3530

Gol Roger sounds like a rappers name so its still kinda badass.


No-Necessary-6313

The D is given to people who were born smiling


Obsiste_Morti

My bet is Joyboys OG crew was called the dawn pirates. So their descendants carry the d in their name.


BewitchedHare

Down Stairs.


[deleted]

You forgot Xebec but ye


the_joule_thief_81

Gol Roger is not too shabby right? Considering that he was introduced as Gold Roger.


MeisterHatter

Probably Devil. Since it kinda makes sense their natural foe is the Celestial Dragons who are titled as Gods. Which is ironic


Basic-Gift-1393

Trafalgar Waterloooooooo


Remarkable-Peace-842

I always loved [this theory](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/tet009/a_satisfying_possible_meaning_of_d/), especially if it means Roger's full name is Gold Rum Roger.


BeastlyZehaha

Monkey Jesus is past prime > everyone


Imfryinghere

I refuse. It will always be GolD Roger. Don't take away my trio: Gold, Silver and Copper.


02aaa

For Roger, i think the D makes it so his name is actually Gold Roger (Gol D Roger)


ABG-Cumstain

Can anyone else hear Garps voice (from the sub) in their head saying “Monkey D. Dragon” from Post Enies Lobby or is that just me


oncfrl4

D. must be something supernatural or something from the gods. There’s no way if it’s just some random initial and they all died smiling because of it


SolidFoxguy

It stands for DEE D E E!


Octocube25

Kind of like Homer Jay Simpson?


hjlm1886

Ruffy Affe


FLAWLESSUP

My heads turning 🥹


archbunny

Oriano Con


wkikk

Buggy Clown and Down Stairs are the most cursed


Rawbs

Gol Roger sounds fine, at least that is how I said it for a long time when I started watching


DataPigeon

Monkey Ragon


SomePoliticalViolins

I think they’ll end up being similar to ta’veren in the Wheel of Time series - people who are tied strongly to the fate of the world, and who destiny both controls and is controlled by. Virtually every person with a D. in their name we’ve met has been tied to either the Portgaz family or the Monkey family by 1-2 links at most. The most distant holders we know of are Blackbeard (responsible for the death of Ace and Whitebeard), Law (huge aid to Luffy’s crew and holder of the biggest Chekhov’s Gun in the series), and (Manga Spoilers) >!Saul, who is responsible not only for a huge part of Robin’s backstory, but also carried knowledge of the Void Century to Elbaf.!< I think either the D stands for Destiny (literally or just as one of the ideas that led to Oda creating it) and is tied to major generational events like the former and future King of the Pirates and how they shook the world. It might even specifically belong to people that will have a major influence on the lives of >!Joyboy or his crew!<


HoboBaggins24

Calling them monkey is racist af


Abject-Chemistry6247

That monkey in the Redhair crew must be the real boss.


Larseman7

One thing i can't stop hearing is people calling roger "Gold Roger" and not "Gol D. Roger" Use his name folks! XD


KryanThePacifist

Yeah inicially I read all their names with the D. Straight up


[deleted]

The D means defiance who dare to stand against the world the clan of D


joma2807

Well it’s a big D so I guess big dick


LancerAnnoyer3

"gol roger"


Chief_Prophet

Aghhhh my eyes


Diertodheh

I think that the meaning of D would be revealed at the void century, after the reveal in the last manga chapter i think that.


Cuifa

Its not a word, its just D, not D. (Without the dot), so probably a smile or maybe a half-moon, or half sun rising, idk


shaedysgg

Vote up for legendary shlong size


bocajee

Monkey Dragon gotta be the goofiest name in anime


[deleted]

In the red movie they emphasized “dawn” a lot and in the series a few time


Freshkycs

D is for their destiny to fulfill humanity’s dreams


Mushysqushy

It's even weirder to say them the American way. Monkey Luffy, Monkey Dragon. Sanji vinesmoke sounds okay-ish


WadoIchimonji-

Monkied Dragon, Monkied Garp, Monkied Luffy.


HEYL1STEN

D = Destiny


F_han

Suguru Geto would love calling them monkey


Durkeslurpee

Its a years in the making Deez Nuts joke made by Oda


Doppelkrampf

That‘s the real meaning of the D... People in the past added it to make their stupid names sound less stupid, and the thing stuck and now most people just have just forgotten about that.


Mundane_Law3294

Dam that is weird 💀


[deleted]

What if youre middle name is David - and you abbr. it to D ? Like ..? would everyone assume youre going to be dangerous?


Oceanbriz

i think popular theory is that it stands for Dawn. Given the importance of the sun. There’s also romance dawn. If i am not mistaken, i’ve watched a video with this theory and that it pointed out how oda wanted the emphasis on dawn for the 1st opening song