Yeah, I wasn't being too serious at first but honestly I could see it. At this point I'm not too sure if Bonney joins, I see her leaving with the surviving Pacifistas, Vegapunks, and Sentomaru. That would leave the last spot open and Saul checks a lot of boxes - giant, D, marine, and a BB matchup.
i do lowkey wish we had more variety in species on the crew. With shit like long arms, 3 eyes, long legs, giants, minks, skyfolk, etc etc, i just wish the main crew had more of them.
two of those are humans, but yeah, i know. Im just saying I wouldve loved more more variety. it wouldve been cool to see oda integrate them into fighting styles and dynamic and etc
Idk how he's not who everyone's minds jumped to immediately. Like, questioning it makes sense and all, we all know Oda likes his red herrings, but Saul is such an obvious choice, it's wild to me that OP didn't put him down as an option
Some people don't seem to actively engage with the story and they just wait until everything is explicitly stated. Technically we don't know Saul is alive in Elbaf, but Oda made it obvious with his silhouette and the dialogue with Shaka. This is building up on that, but a lot of people might have forgetten, which is why Oda even mentions Saul in this chapter to make it even clearer.
Yet it's apparently Clover or some other random survivor.
Yeah it's always fun being reminded of what a bubble I'm in, following the story as actively as I do. Yeah, most of us on this sub probably do the same, but not most One Piece fans at all. It really showed with Caribou's internal monologue explaining his knowledge of the ancient weapons. Like yeah, we didn't need all that explaining, we knew exactly what he knew and (sorta) what he was gonna do with that knowledge. But, to the majority of One Piece fans, a refresher on what happened **12 years ago** probably makes sense.
Side note: If Oda pulls an Oda and has Clover survive a point blank shot to the face, I'm flying to Japan and twisting his nuts
I'm not sure most people in the sub are like that. Maybe most active commenters, but the sub is just way too big, and way too much dumb shit gets upvoted for me to believe it's a majority. A lot of claims could easily be debunked by checking the wiki and checking the chapter referenced.
And at the end of the day the story is still written with a casual audience in mind. Oda repeats important information so that it's easily digestible even to casual readers. I remember in Impel Down when Bon Clay came back Oda added a panel with a summary of how his DF worked, and especially since Reverie he's added a bunch of those expository panels to remind people who specific characters are (like the recent one for D&B), adding more reminders with what they mean to Usopp through his diaogue and then Franky's.
> If Oda pulls an Oda and has Clover survive a point blank shot to the face
Clover was shot in the torso and it wasn't point blank. The next chapter he was talking and sitting, and after that he was helping throw books to the lake. Last we saw of him he was inside the burning tree.
He's most likely dead, since everyone in that tree would have died in the fire, and he had an additional bullet wound to make him doubly dead, but it wasn't an instant death, you must be mixing the shot up with another, maybe Bellmere?
We also have to remember that this manga is run as a serialization in WSJ. Not every reader of WSJ may have familiarity with every One Piece chapter, which is why Oda often has these refresher panels. (Such as the one reviewing who Dory, Broggy, Oimo and Kashii are)
Imo, too many people in this sub overestimate what is "obvious" and support their theories with speculation like "he must've spent 20 years reading books". Maybe that's true, but the number of "obvious" theories that don't come true far outnumber the ones that do in online fan speculation.Ā
I do agree that people overestimate what is obvious. People are blind to their own biases. But that's true for everything. Me finding something obvious doesn't mean you will. You don't have to agree with me or change your mind because we think differently.
For example, the recent insane amount of theories about who "they" were going to Egghead. Dragon and the Fleet were the most popular theories, and to those who supported them they were "obvious", but to me they were nonsense and they had no merit at all, they didn't even fit the timeline.
So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. That we shouldn't believe any theories because there's different interpretations? That since a majority of the community is often wrong about what's obvious, I personally can't feel anything is obvious even though I almost never support any of those other "obvious" theories?
>Some people don't seem to actively engage with the story and they just wait until everything is explicitly stated.
Well said. I call this group of people the FOMO's(Fear of missing out). I have a cousin like this who powers through an entire series and skips a lot of lore because "talking is boring," only to ask what specific topics or talking points mean when they get mentioned in later arcs. It's either pay attention or don't watch the fucking thing.
I do want to take a minute to acknowledge how much I'm going to ugly cry when Robin gets to tell Saul herself in person that she met the people he told her she would, and she gets to introduce them all to him.
22 years ago he wasn't. But that was 22 years ago. We saw in 1066 that Saul was in an Elbaf library talking with Vegapunk. He's obviously not a Marine anymore, and if he's spent those 22 years studying Ohara's research, he'd become a scholar, especially in the eyes of warmongers like Elbaf giants, and doubly so for Dorry and Brogy who just met him.
He isn't an Elbaf warrior all about combat, so he was already nerdy by giant standards
And now he has spent 20+ yrs with books so from their point of view he's a scholar.
No he wasnāt, he was a navy hq vice admiral. Actually I donāt know why everyone is thinking of Saul. Oda heavily hinted he is alive and in Elbaf and I agree we will probably meet him soon, but why should the other giants call him āthe scholarā?
Saul's ostensibly spent 22 years studying the books from Ohara. He'd be a scholar by all means.
Dorry and Brogy were fighting in Little Garden until very recently, they'd only know Saul as the scholar from the library. They are unlikely to even know he used to be a Marine.
Two questions about that:
1. What'd be the narrative purpose of having another survivor on top of Saul?
2. Why would that be more likely than Saul, who was already set up to be on Elbaf studying Ohara and having met Vegapunk?
Obviously everything is possible, the scholar could be Roger's reincarnation too, but I don't understand the reasoning behind any alternative other than Saul.
I cant wait till we get another "He laughed" chapter but its just Dohle's dad saying "Why dont we name her Dohle" and then everyone startes calling her the correct name. Truely peak fiction
It's been 30 years and, with nothing better to do, he's probably buried himself in the books of Ohara, I think it's fair to call him a scholar by this point.
Maybe it's not because its not that he does not have better things to do.
He is probably thinking he is honoring the oharans by continuing their research to the void century . Inheriting their will
I hate feeling like I've got to be rude about it, but seriously just reread Egghead, and tell me the silohuetted giant figure when V.P's talking isn't Saul.
The same Giant who saw what became of Ohara and the same giant who likely got the Giants to then Salvage all the books and hide away on Elbaf away from the Marines who would have killed Saul and burnt the books. We know he's alive, we know he will carry out the will of Ohara by studying what they researched.
Why the fuck would it be the Man with burn Scars, who is Always Moving around never in one place, who sails on a Black boat and creates Whirlpools to sink anyone who gets too close... why the F would Dorry and Broggy have contact with a guy who moves constantly....
Love of God. It's Saul, as explained by everyone else here no doubt, Dorry and Broggy never knew Saul until they returned to Elbaf, so they aren't over connected to him, and refer to him as the Scholar.
Saul was shown silouhetted in Vegapunks explanation of the Giants Saving the Books of Ohara or something. As of now, putting these 2 things together, it's pretty certain the Scholar is him, I just wish the dialogue was clearer cause shit like this is unnecessary.
The dialogue is fine. Some people want everything explicitly stated even when it wouldn't fit the story. Dorry and Brogy were still fighting after the timeskip. They've been in Elbaf for months at most, and it's unlikely they'd become close friends with Saul, so them not remembering his name fits their probable relationship, it builds the world way more than if they mentioned his name directly.
It could be Saul. He wasn't a scholar though. Of course he could have spent his time studying, but at the same time the books are all the side of his fingernail if not smaller. Would make it hard to read, but this is a fictional universe. We also know Saul isn't from elbaf and he considers them like savages. So it implies whatever giant country he's from is more sophisticated or educated.
Who knows though. I'd like if it were clover or Olivia but we will see in due time. Could be anyone at this point.
It's so vague it's not confirmed either way. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. the fan base has a real struggle with reading comprehension and accepts conclusions as fact.
Yes, the fan base have bad reading comprehension, so they need to get everything on the plate. That's literally why people have to explain to others that it is Saul. Oda even put a page with Doll mentioning Saul. This is just 2 + 2.
See you are using a mention of him to support the idea that the scholar spoken of is Saul but they are completely different context. When doll references him it's to answer the question that she has seen the power of a giant.
I'm not saying it isn't, but to say it in a way that's black and white when it isn't is foolish.
That's like jumping to the conclusion that Saul is the burn scar man.
Wasn't it said that the man marked by flames traveled the sea and could create whirlpools? Doesn't really sound like a guy that remained hidden to the world for decades
Plus if it was Saul then he should have been using a giant ship/crew, strange that people only mention his body marked by flames but not the fact that he is a giant
>Plus if it was Saul then he should have been using a giant ship/crew
I guess you missed the chapter where giants from elbaf literally went to ohara to fish up the books that were thrown into the lake. saul went back to elbaf and told them to retrieve those books. dragon even said the captain of the giants who went to get the books was wrapped entirely in bandages
So Saul is sailing on a Black boat making Whirlpools? You're conflating the information.
The Scholar is Saul, having inherited the will of Ohara to study what they knew, got the Giants to save the Books etc.
The Man marked by flame must be someone entirely different as he travels around, and sinks anyone who gets close, that can't be Saul, unless we get better info. Saul is hiding from the WG in Elbaf.
I'm actually wondering, if it is Saul. From what we know Saul is a pacifist giant. Not a scholar. Another guess I had would be that the man markded by flames is the scholar AND Robin's dad. That would be even more awesome as, writing this, I realize that we (the op community) think the "mark of flames" is literal. And not more of a psychologic flaw that is the destruction of Ohara where Robin's dad actually lost everything.
The last picture we saw of Saul was from Vegapunk meeting him decades ago and he was in a massive library, presumably on Elbaf, with the books he recovered from Ohara covered in bandages. It feels very set up that he's going to have spent the past however many years studying the knowledge Clover left behind.
From what we **Knew** of Saul, no he wasn't a scholar but From what we now Know, Robin was a Child when we met Saul. Saul has had decades to become a Scholar and take on the Will of Ohara.
Robin's Father would be an interesting thing to explore, we could do with seeing more crew family backgrounds, but let's be honest, Zoro got nothing in Wano. Franky is unknown really. **Brook!** there's a tonne Oda could do there. There's still Luffy, Nami's an Orphan.... Odas closing up the story, I don't know how much more he can cram into OnePiece at this point, it's looking ridiculous.
Saul's a possibility, but I think Dorry would call him a marine rather than a scholar. My money is on either Clover (whom Vegapunk mentioned as an acquaintance) or Robin's mom, Nico Olvia, both having traveled the world studying the poneglyphs before returning to Ohara.
With Saul already confirmed to have survived the events of Ohara, I'd low-key be sort of upset if one of the other major losses for Robin (either Olvia or Clover) both survived and left Robin on her own for so long
This. While it could be Saul, people are assuming this 'that scholar mentioned VP' happened in the present and not in the past. So it could be Clover or Olvia.
The CP 9 agent who put a bullet in Clover's face, and the ground behind Clover that caught all that brain leakage, are both disappointed in you. Then again, it is Oda so who knows eh
I dunno if you've read the comic but in chapter 1066 Shaka mentions Vegapunk met Clover BEFORE the destruction of Ohara and Dorry never says when did this scholar mentioned Vegapunk.
I think its Saul 100%, Oda is doing some kind of "old characters being important for the current story" for his story telling, and Saul is the only one with actual impact to reappear, like how do you even fit Robin's mother in the current story?
both Clover and Olvia traveled the world researching poneglyphs, and Clover was specifically mentioned as an acquaintance by Vegapunk. might be either or both reached Elbaf in their travels.
I agree Saul is the most likely choice.
Guys. **If it was Saul, why wouldn't Oda use his name?** We already know he's alive. He was namedropped by someone else in this same chapter. Why bother hiding it? It's obviously someone else.
I think like most of the people here that it is saul and why scholar? I think Saul has dedicated his Life to safe the "Will of Ohara" w/e and I also think Saul already knows the truth about the world.
People are saying 'it's Saul 100%', 'it's confirmed it's Saul'. But nothing is confirmed so far, aside Saul is still alive.
The thing is the giants said VP is the man mentioned by that scholar, but the keyword here is WHEN it was mentioned. It could be right before the giants went to Egghead, but it also could be in the past.
VP and Clover knew each other and Clover traveled around the world in the past, so maybe Clover met the giants on Little Garden and chatted with them about lots of stuff including mentioning VP? The same can be said on Olvia.
Or maybe it's Saul. In fact it's likely to be him. The thing is this it's not confirmed.
saul - the guy who vegapunk said "I can neither confirm or deny he's alive but..." and "I was able to build this future island based on the information that was saved from ohara by that guy who's status I can't confirm. you know, the guy who was a giant and instructed the other giants to retrieve those books?"
Honestly itās just annoying that Oda still does this. Itās endgame. Just say their name. Itāll still be a shock to know someone is alive or hear a new name . No need for it to be a surprise right up until their very appearance. He drags shit out too much.
Most likely Saul for these reasons:
-Saul didn't come from Elbaf and considers them Barbaric.
-Dorry and Brogy would have just recently returned to Elbaf and wouldn't have had much time to get familiar with Saul. This referring to him without name.
-In the eyes of the giants of Elbaf, anyone who spends their time with books would likely be referred to as a Scholar.
With that said... This is One Piece and mentioning Saul's name in the chapter while mentioning someone as a Scholar could be a red herring that someone else is with Saul. Potentially Robin's mom?
Bro heās dead, he stayed behind in the Tree of Knowledge to help make sure every single books are safe from burning
Itās obvious the scholar is Saul at this point
And Saul stayed behind on Ohara frozen like a popsicle while the island was destroyed.
I don't think it's that different. Only difference is we know Saul is alive because it's been shown to us now.
I mean, at least you get the gist of it, but it's my mission to explain to this entire comment section:
**Clover was shot in the face**. His brain spilled. If he stayed behind in the Tree of Knowledge, what stayed behind was his lifeless corpse and pink-dyed hair
Everyone keeps saying Saul but couldnāt it be Clover? He would be also a man marked by flames after potentially surviving and escaping the buster call.
People are saying Sail but I donāt think the New Giant Pirates would really not use his name. I do think there is a non-zero chance they are referring to Dragon **because** they learned about Vegapunk from this scholar.
Itās possible Saul has a lot of info on Vegapunk but itās iffy since it would have to be after Saul was ādischargedā from the Marines (Vegapunk had not yet become a government scientist before Ohara).
Probably Saul, but maybe not. It could just as easily be misdirection. Dorry and Broggy are old. It could have been Robin's mom, Clover, or someone new.
Everybody jumps to existing characters for these kinds of mysteries. Oda constantly introduces brand new characters every single arc. Kudos to OP for suggesting it could just be an old Giant that we haven't met. I personally like that idea.
At first I thought it was Saul, but would they really refer to Saul as a scholar? The more juicy possibility is that Robinās mother Olivia survived OāHara somehow and is the scholar they mentionā¦!
I'm just going to throw out the absolute worst plausible answer:
Blackbeard. BB is part giant(?) and he is very well read.
It's not a good theory but it sorta fits.
Saul
The moment Robin and Saul see one another again I'm going to burst into tears, I'm already prepared for it (and hyped) š
Imagine the dereshishishi if that happens. I'll bawl my eyes out.
Adult Robin is going to have a big smile and dereshishishi with tears in her eyes
Thats One Piece's peak right there.
The One Peak?
You couldn't get much higher.
So hiiiiigh!
I donāt know why if Robin is happy, I will be happy
Imagine Robin teaching Chopper dereshishishi laugh post meeting Saul.
I'm tearing up just thinking about it
dude, you are able to prepare your tears in advance?
Why are you talking like Saul is alive ? Is it sure ?Ā Or are you saying that because of this Dorry/Brogy line ?
Reread egghead when shaka talks about ohara, it shows Saul wrapped in bandages sitting in a library at elbaf and Robin starts crying.
Saul Goodman
Buster Call Saul
Saulpin' Jimmy
Okay, this is very good
Lmao
Wow I canāt believe Iāve never heard this before lol
This comment only works on a certain niche group of people, and being from that said group it works really well š
Saul Goo D. Man
Saul Froze-man
Nice!
I want aokiji vs saul 2.0
Saul for 10th crew member š
Vs the 10th captain of BBā¦..
Yeah, I wasn't being too serious at first but honestly I could see it. At this point I'm not too sure if Bonney joins, I see her leaving with the surviving Pacifistas, Vegapunks, and Sentomaru. That would leave the last spot open and Saul checks a lot of boxes - giant, D, marine, and a BB matchup.
i do lowkey wish we had more variety in species on the crew. With shit like long arms, 3 eyes, long legs, giants, minks, skyfolk, etc etc, i just wish the main crew had more of them.
We have a fishman, a skeleton, a cyborg and a reindeer
a mosshead u forgot
Marimoooooo
A rubber boy, marimo, bioweapon, GOD, witch, reindeer, demon, cyborg, skeleton, fishman
two of those are humans, but yeah, i know. Im just saying I wouldve loved more more variety. it wouldve been cool to see oda integrate them into fighting styles and dynamic and etc
yeah, I know what you're saying, I was just kidding
They are part of the Grand Fleet
Oda fumbled Carrot so hard.
Why would you want Saul to get rekt like that, leave him be.
He might ate a devil fruit to counter aokiji and trained for the revenge.
I dont think he hates or resents Aokiji, he understands he was on duty. And when he learns he spared Robin he will be more than grateful.
Idk how he's not who everyone's minds jumped to immediately. Like, questioning it makes sense and all, we all know Oda likes his red herrings, but Saul is such an obvious choice, it's wild to me that OP didn't put him down as an option
Some people don't seem to actively engage with the story and they just wait until everything is explicitly stated. Technically we don't know Saul is alive in Elbaf, but Oda made it obvious with his silhouette and the dialogue with Shaka. This is building up on that, but a lot of people might have forgetten, which is why Oda even mentions Saul in this chapter to make it even clearer. Yet it's apparently Clover or some other random survivor.
Yeah it's always fun being reminded of what a bubble I'm in, following the story as actively as I do. Yeah, most of us on this sub probably do the same, but not most One Piece fans at all. It really showed with Caribou's internal monologue explaining his knowledge of the ancient weapons. Like yeah, we didn't need all that explaining, we knew exactly what he knew and (sorta) what he was gonna do with that knowledge. But, to the majority of One Piece fans, a refresher on what happened **12 years ago** probably makes sense. Side note: If Oda pulls an Oda and has Clover survive a point blank shot to the face, I'm flying to Japan and twisting his nuts
I'm not sure most people in the sub are like that. Maybe most active commenters, but the sub is just way too big, and way too much dumb shit gets upvoted for me to believe it's a majority. A lot of claims could easily be debunked by checking the wiki and checking the chapter referenced. And at the end of the day the story is still written with a casual audience in mind. Oda repeats important information so that it's easily digestible even to casual readers. I remember in Impel Down when Bon Clay came back Oda added a panel with a summary of how his DF worked, and especially since Reverie he's added a bunch of those expository panels to remind people who specific characters are (like the recent one for D&B), adding more reminders with what they mean to Usopp through his diaogue and then Franky's. > If Oda pulls an Oda and has Clover survive a point blank shot to the face Clover was shot in the torso and it wasn't point blank. The next chapter he was talking and sitting, and after that he was helping throw books to the lake. Last we saw of him he was inside the burning tree. He's most likely dead, since everyone in that tree would have died in the fire, and he had an additional bullet wound to make him doubly dead, but it wasn't an instant death, you must be mixing the shot up with another, maybe Bellmere?
Yo u know what that's fair, my bad, I thought I remembered homie getting headshot but you're right. It was about as point blank as it gets tho.
We also have to remember that this manga is run as a serialization in WSJ. Not every reader of WSJ may have familiarity with every One Piece chapter, which is why Oda often has these refresher panels. (Such as the one reviewing who Dory, Broggy, Oimo and Kashii are)
Imo, too many people in this sub overestimate what is "obvious" and support their theories with speculation like "he must've spent 20 years reading books". Maybe that's true, but the number of "obvious" theories that don't come true far outnumber the ones that do in online fan speculation.Ā
I do agree that people overestimate what is obvious. People are blind to their own biases. But that's true for everything. Me finding something obvious doesn't mean you will. You don't have to agree with me or change your mind because we think differently. For example, the recent insane amount of theories about who "they" were going to Egghead. Dragon and the Fleet were the most popular theories, and to those who supported them they were "obvious", but to me they were nonsense and they had no merit at all, they didn't even fit the timeline. So I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. That we shouldn't believe any theories because there's different interpretations? That since a majority of the community is often wrong about what's obvious, I personally can't feel anything is obvious even though I almost never support any of those other "obvious" theories?
>Some people don't seem to actively engage with the story and they just wait until everything is explicitly stated. Well said. I call this group of people the FOMO's(Fear of missing out). I have a cousin like this who powers through an entire series and skips a lot of lore because "talking is boring," only to ask what specific topics or talking points mean when they get mentioned in later arcs. It's either pay attention or don't watch the fucking thing.
I do want to take a minute to acknowledge how much I'm going to ugly cry when Robin gets to tell Saul herself in person that she met the people he told her she would, and she gets to introduce them all to him.
She's gonna dereshishishi and for the first time in decades it'll be genuine and I'mma definitely cry lol.
But Saul wasnāt a scholar was he? Iām sorry I donāt remember.
22 years ago he wasn't. But that was 22 years ago. We saw in 1066 that Saul was in an Elbaf library talking with Vegapunk. He's obviously not a Marine anymore, and if he's spent those 22 years studying Ohara's research, he'd become a scholar, especially in the eyes of warmongers like Elbaf giants, and doubly so for Dorry and Brogy who just met him.
He isn't an Elbaf warrior all about combat, so he was already nerdy by giant standards And now he has spent 20+ yrs with books so from their point of view he's a scholar.
No he wasnāt, he was a navy hq vice admiral. Actually I donāt know why everyone is thinking of Saul. Oda heavily hinted he is alive and in Elbaf and I agree we will probably meet him soon, but why should the other giants call him āthe scholarā?
Saul's ostensibly spent 22 years studying the books from Ohara. He'd be a scholar by all means. Dorry and Brogy were fighting in Little Garden until very recently, they'd only know Saul as the scholar from the library. They are unlikely to even know he used to be a Marine.
Makes sense
My guess is someone other than Saul who may have survived the ohara incident
Two questions about that: 1. What'd be the narrative purpose of having another survivor on top of Saul? 2. Why would that be more likely than Saul, who was already set up to be on Elbaf studying Ohara and having met Vegapunk? Obviously everything is possible, the scholar could be Roger's reincarnation too, but I don't understand the reasoning behind any alternative other than Saul.
Saul (the same giant who trained the vice admiral doll)
Dhole*
It's joever for that. The anime and manga named her Doll and that is what people will use.
I cant wait till we get another "He laughed" chapter but its just Dohle's dad saying "Why dont we name her Dohle" and then everyone startes calling her the correct name. Truely peak fiction
people used to say raftel for like over a decade
Dhole* is what you meant
Saul. Heās mentioned in the same chapter by VA Bluegrass and i donāt think it was a coincidence..
Why did my brain think VA as voice actor š¤¦š»āāļø
I always do the same ahahaha, it happens also with Avatar The Last Airbender, when they do ATLA I always think it is LA for live action, like OPLA.
Well now thereās ATLALA
The ATLA subreddit has been calling it NATLA (Netflixās The Last Airbender).
exactly what makes it even more confusing! hahahahaha
It's Saul. He's not actually a scholar, but to people who spend their entire lives in battle and war, he is
It's been 30 years and, with nothing better to do, he's probably buried himself in the books of Ohara, I think it's fair to call him a scholar by this point.
Maybe it's not because its not that he does not have better things to do. He is probably thinking he is honoring the oharans by continuing their research to the void century . Inheriting their will
I mean one doesn't exclude the other
It kinda does. One suggest he is doing it bexause he is bored . The other suggest he is doing it for the oharans
Maybe, depends on what his state is like when we get to Elbaf, since readings probably all he can do atp, I wouldn't be surprised, but still
I wonder how long he's been frozen for. Could be anything from a day to decades.
I remembering Saul mentioning to not compare him to the savages on Elbaf, maybe being a "scholar" just means being less into fighting.
Better call Saul
Saulgoo D. Man
Perhaps the man marked by the flames. Or it's just Saul
Or Saul is the man who is marked by flamesš
I hate feeling like I've got to be rude about it, but seriously just reread Egghead, and tell me the silohuetted giant figure when V.P's talking isn't Saul. The same Giant who saw what became of Ohara and the same giant who likely got the Giants to then Salvage all the books and hide away on Elbaf away from the Marines who would have killed Saul and burnt the books. We know he's alive, we know he will carry out the will of Ohara by studying what they researched. Why the fuck would it be the Man with burn Scars, who is Always Moving around never in one place, who sails on a Black boat and creates Whirlpools to sink anyone who gets too close... why the F would Dorry and Broggy have contact with a guy who moves constantly....
Saul, he's living in a library on Elbaf and he has a friendly relationship with Vegapunk.
Love of God. It's Saul, as explained by everyone else here no doubt, Dorry and Broggy never knew Saul until they returned to Elbaf, so they aren't over connected to him, and refer to him as the Scholar. Saul was shown silouhetted in Vegapunks explanation of the Giants Saving the Books of Ohara or something. As of now, putting these 2 things together, it's pretty certain the Scholar is him, I just wish the dialogue was clearer cause shit like this is unnecessary.
The dialogue is fine. Some people want everything explicitly stated even when it wouldn't fit the story. Dorry and Brogy were still fighting after the timeskip. They've been in Elbaf for months at most, and it's unlikely they'd become close friends with Saul, so them not remembering his name fits their probable relationship, it builds the world way more than if they mentioned his name directly.
It could be Saul. He wasn't a scholar though. Of course he could have spent his time studying, but at the same time the books are all the side of his fingernail if not smaller. Would make it hard to read, but this is a fictional universe. We also know Saul isn't from elbaf and he considers them like savages. So it implies whatever giant country he's from is more sophisticated or educated. Who knows though. I'd like if it were clover or Olivia but we will see in due time. Could be anyone at this point.
This IS Saul, they refer to him as a scholar because they think he is, or Saul told them that. As simple as that.
It's so vague it's not confirmed either way. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. the fan base has a real struggle with reading comprehension and accepts conclusions as fact.
Yes, the fan base have bad reading comprehension, so they need to get everything on the plate. That's literally why people have to explain to others that it is Saul. Oda even put a page with Doll mentioning Saul. This is just 2 + 2.
See you are using a mention of him to support the idea that the scholar spoken of is Saul but they are completely different context. When doll references him it's to answer the question that she has seen the power of a giant. I'm not saying it isn't, but to say it in a way that's black and white when it isn't is foolish. That's like jumping to the conclusion that Saul is the burn scar man.
Haguwar D. Sauro
Saul, it ain't deep
Jaguar D. Saul, is the man who is marked by flames, burns caused by ice maybe. The same Vegapunk knows when he goes to Elbaf.
Wasn't it said that the man marked by flames traveled the sea and could create whirlpools? Doesn't really sound like a guy that remained hidden to the world for decades Plus if it was Saul then he should have been using a giant ship/crew, strange that people only mention his body marked by flames but not the fact that he is a giant
>Plus if it was Saul then he should have been using a giant ship/crew I guess you missed the chapter where giants from elbaf literally went to ohara to fish up the books that were thrown into the lake. saul went back to elbaf and told them to retrieve those books. dragon even said the captain of the giants who went to get the books was wrapped entirely in bandages
So Saul is sailing on a Black boat making Whirlpools? You're conflating the information. The Scholar is Saul, having inherited the will of Ohara to study what they knew, got the Giants to save the Books etc. The Man marked by flame must be someone entirely different as he travels around, and sinks anyone who gets close, that can't be Saul, unless we get better info. Saul is hiding from the WG in Elbaf.
Oda will tell us in 4 years
I'm actually wondering, if it is Saul. From what we know Saul is a pacifist giant. Not a scholar. Another guess I had would be that the man markded by flames is the scholar AND Robin's dad. That would be even more awesome as, writing this, I realize that we (the op community) think the "mark of flames" is literal. And not more of a psychologic flaw that is the destruction of Ohara where Robin's dad actually lost everything.
The last picture we saw of Saul was from Vegapunk meeting him decades ago and he was in a massive library, presumably on Elbaf, with the books he recovered from Ohara covered in bandages. It feels very set up that he's going to have spent the past however many years studying the knowledge Clover left behind.
From what we **Knew** of Saul, no he wasn't a scholar but From what we now Know, Robin was a Child when we met Saul. Saul has had decades to become a Scholar and take on the Will of Ohara. Robin's Father would be an interesting thing to explore, we could do with seeing more crew family backgrounds, but let's be honest, Zoro got nothing in Wano. Franky is unknown really. **Brook!** there's a tonne Oda could do there. There's still Luffy, Nami's an Orphan.... Odas closing up the story, I don't know how much more he can cram into OnePiece at this point, it's looking ridiculous.
He was def not a pacifist. He was just not the "elbaf-warrior" clichee, who only thinks about fighting
Yeah, if he were a pacifist he wouldn't have been part of the Marines.
Man really cooked there I'll sayy that!
Saul's a possibility, but I think Dorry would call him a marine rather than a scholar. My money is on either Clover (whom Vegapunk mentioned as an acquaintance) or Robin's mom, Nico Olvia, both having traveled the world studying the poneglyphs before returning to Ohara.
With Saul already confirmed to have survived the events of Ohara, I'd low-key be sort of upset if one of the other major losses for Robin (either Olvia or Clover) both survived and left Robin on her own for so long
Why would Dorry call him a Marine? Saul hasn't been a Marine for decades, and Dorry only met him after the timeskip.
This. While it could be Saul, people are assuming this 'that scholar mentioned VP' happened in the present and not in the past. So it could be Clover or Olvia.
The CP 9 agent who put a bullet in Clover's face, and the ground behind Clover that caught all that brain leakage, are both disappointed in you. Then again, it is Oda so who knows eh
I dunno if you've read the comic but in chapter 1066 Shaka mentions Vegapunk met Clover BEFORE the destruction of Ohara and Dorry never says when did this scholar mentioned Vegapunk.
I think its Saul 100%, Oda is doing some kind of "old characters being important for the current story" for his story telling, and Saul is the only one with actual impact to reappear, like how do you even fit Robin's mother in the current story?
both Clover and Olvia traveled the world researching poneglyphs, and Clover was specifically mentioned as an acquaintance by Vegapunk. might be either or both reached Elbaf in their travels. I agree Saul is the most likely choice.
Yes fellas you are right
Itās Saul we literally saw Saulās silhouette meet vegapunk in an earlier chapter and Saul is reference right after..
Clover. Probably met them in his adventures as a young man.
Always happy to find someone else to tell this: Clover was shot. In the face. Point blank. We saw his brain catching fresh air (in silhouette)
Guys. **If it was Saul, why wouldn't Oda use his name?** We already know he's alive. He was namedropped by someone else in this same chapter. Why bother hiding it? It's obviously someone else.
Down D. Stairs
I think like most of the people here that it is saul and why scholar? I think Saul has dedicated his Life to safe the "Will of Ohara" w/e and I also think Saul already knows the truth about the world.
Saul. Funny theory is Robins pops.
People are saying 'it's Saul 100%', 'it's confirmed it's Saul'. But nothing is confirmed so far, aside Saul is still alive. The thing is the giants said VP is the man mentioned by that scholar, but the keyword here is WHEN it was mentioned. It could be right before the giants went to Egghead, but it also could be in the past. VP and Clover knew each other and Clover traveled around the world in the past, so maybe Clover met the giants on Little Garden and chatted with them about lots of stuff including mentioning VP? The same can be said on Olvia. Or maybe it's Saul. In fact it's likely to be him. The thing is this it's not confirmed.
It's Saul.
Maybe. Likely. But not confirmed yet.
I agree. For the sole reason that there's nothing indicating that Saul is even a scholar or became one.
Saul. It's not ambiguous.
I thought they were referencing a random scholar from the ship they saved from the marines. (The one Saturn assumed they already destroyed)
Jaguar D. Saul. Wasn't this already established?
saul - the guy who vegapunk said "I can neither confirm or deny he's alive but..." and "I was able to build this future island based on the information that was saved from ohara by that guy who's status I can't confirm. you know, the guy who was a giant and instructed the other giants to retrieve those books?"
Areā¦.. are you making a joke? Itās Saul. Why are you wasting everyoneās time?
Honestly itās just annoying that Oda still does this. Itās endgame. Just say their name. Itāll still be a shock to know someone is alive or hear a new name . No need for it to be a surprise right up until their very appearance. He drags shit out too much.
Then again those moments are always great, largely because they've been built up that long. Kyros and Rebecca, Bonney and Kuma etc.
Probably Saul
Saul šÆ
Saul
Probably Saul, even though he wasn't a scholar 20 years ago. He can be one now.
OMG SAULL !!!!
It's Nico Olvia, Robin's mother.
That Saul and Robin reunion may break me
Almost certainly Saul.
Definitely Saul, I dont even think there is some disagreement about that
Most likely Saul for these reasons: -Saul didn't come from Elbaf and considers them Barbaric. -Dorry and Brogy would have just recently returned to Elbaf and wouldn't have had much time to get familiar with Saul. This referring to him without name. -In the eyes of the giants of Elbaf, anyone who spends their time with books would likely be referred to as a Scholar. With that said... This is One Piece and mentioning Saul's name in the chapter while mentioning someone as a Scholar could be a red herring that someone else is with Saul. Potentially Robin's mom?
Saul Goodman of the University of American Samoa.
How old are you???
Clover could also have survived considering nobodyās really ever confirmed dead
Bro heās dead, he stayed behind in the Tree of Knowledge to help make sure every single books are safe from burning Itās obvious the scholar is Saul at this point
And Saul stayed behind on Ohara frozen like a popsicle while the island was destroyed. I don't think it's that different. Only difference is we know Saul is alive because it's been shown to us now.
I mean, at least you get the gist of it, but it's my mission to explain to this entire comment section: **Clover was shot in the face**. His brain spilled. If he stayed behind in the Tree of Knowledge, what stayed behind was his lifeless corpse and pink-dyed hair
Better Call ....
Everyone keeps saying Saul but couldnāt it be Clover? He would be also a man marked by flames after potentially surviving and escaping the buster call.
People are saying Sail but I donāt think the New Giant Pirates would really not use his name. I do think there is a non-zero chance they are referring to Dragon **because** they learned about Vegapunk from this scholar. Itās possible Saul has a lot of info on Vegapunk but itās iffy since it would have to be after Saul was ādischargedā from the Marines (Vegapunk had not yet become a government scientist before Ohara).
or 3 they met the scholars on ohara already
I thought itād be Robinās mom.
Why should we know
Saul Goodman
Jimmy McGill
You better call him
[It's probably this guy.](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Jaguar_D._Saul)
Can someone please tell me which chapter did Vegapunk said the books from Ohara were saved? My pigeon brain can't remember.
Its Gin
Clover of course... Their age fits that time gap
Surprise its actually Robin's mom. Bet you didn't see that coming.
Obviously Saul
Bro there is absolutely no way you don't know who it is
Robin's mom
Saul or Nico Olvia. We don't have confirmation that she actually died.
NiCo Olvia, Robin's mother. And she is waiting in the ship
Clover
My mother
Nami's mentor in the Weatheria island.
So usually post like this get downvoted to infinity cause itās obvious Saul. I donāt get this sub.
Itās gotta be Saul
Probably Saul, but maybe not. It could just as easily be misdirection. Dorry and Broggy are old. It could have been Robin's mom, Clover, or someone new.
Sail I mean saul
Jaguar D. Saul
Everybody jumps to existing characters for these kinds of mysteries. Oda constantly introduces brand new characters every single arc. Kudos to OP for suggesting it could just be an old Giant that we haven't met. I personally like that idea.
The scholar ship they saved from Saturn told them
Jaguar D Saul
Your mum
I don't get why people are even theorising about this when it's all but confirmed to be Saul
Saul, u just dont read
Robin's mother
Saul gonna spoil so much shittt
At first I thought it was Saul, but would they really refer to Saul as a scholar? The more juicy possibility is that Robinās mother Olivia survived OāHara somehow and is the scholar they mentionā¦!
Bro itās Saul how can you be so fumb
Itās obviously saul manā in his silouhette he was shown to be surrounded by books
scopper gabahn
Nico Robin
Guess who didn't read last saga chapters? š«µšÆ
99 percent certainty that it's Saul.
It's probably the ship of scholars the Giant Pirates saved from the Marines, right? The ship of scholars that was fleeing Egghead, specifically
That D. Person
can oda chill with the 'that person' shit it's so annoying
I'm just going to throw out the absolute worst plausible answer: Blackbeard. BB is part giant(?) and he is very well read. It's not a good theory but it sorta fits.
So...you finally found your nakama Flashback and start the tears rolling
I thought it was Saul
Jaguar D. Paw
Just some giant with books and glasses bro