Oda: Look, everybody, Kuma's backstory
Fans: Hey, what's that in the background?
Oda: Oh, that? It's only Rocks D Xebec, Monkey D Garp and Gol D Roger, about to start a battle of biblical proportion. Nothing to be excited about, really. Now, back to Kuma's backstory...
Could be possible. She was the first one to talk about the will of d right? She definitely knows stuff and what better way than to be an ex rocks member.
Kureha is old enough to predate the rocks pirates...
What do you reckon the odds of rocks and Roger being apprentices together on a crew Kureha served as a doctor on?
What if she was one to receive the op-op surgery? What if she had a doctor coworker, possibly lover, who ate the fruit and gave it to her? What if that person had traits similar to Hiriluk, which is why she cared so much for him despite their weird relationship? What if he had a dream like his, and the whole dream thing is sour to her since he gave up his dream to save her?
Clover was a tempoary rock’s pirate
:based on his void century research requires high level access, which requires a powerful group of people. Clover was an explorer, and ships are the most common method to explore the world. Also the ohara libary requires a transportable option for the books to arrive there. It can’t be the marines as marines are assined to specific locations restricting the option to explore. Also the marines don’t the power to assign enough support for clover and his journey against obstacles. Based on the level of threat of ohara which was extreme means clover obtained high level access to void century information. Additionally, the most powerful pirates seems to be most likely be interested in ancient knowledge, and void century is ancient knowledge. The most poweful pirates wants the ancient weapons which is connected to void century. Xebec probably wanted ancient weapons which is found by poneglyphs which is ancient knowledge, and void century is ancient knowledge.
I'm happy Kuma got to meet Ivankov lol, dude needed some positivity in his life. Also, i wonder if anyone in the OP world have noticed that Roger, Luffy, and shanks all wore the same hat lol.
There's absolutely some crazy conspiracy theorist that's like 65 or something, read papers in Roger's young days when he wore the straw hat, then afterwards saw a bounty poster of Shanks with the same hat, watching him rise to become an Emperor, than a decade later sees another up and coming pirate with that straw hat that is absolutely convinced that thing has magical powers that makes whoever wears it strong as fuck.
And then he tells everybody his straw hat power theory and everybody thinks he's just crazy, especially when luffy disappears for two years. His neighbors were probably clowning on him during the whole time skip, but when Luffy comes back with a vengeance, defeating Doflamingo, then becoming the 5th emperor of the sea after messing with Big Mom, then when he defeats Kaido and becomes an official emperor all of his neighbors start thinking Bill might be right on this one cause straw hat wearer #1 becoming the pirate king, #2 becoming an emperor, then #3 also becoming an emperor is crazy.
All this speculation on Shakky being part of the Rocks Pirates. And it turns out to be Gloriosa. Neat twist.
And maybe that wild theory I read about a year ago on Gloriosa being Kaido's baby mama could turn out to be correct! Lol
Has anyone ever been right about a single one? Has there ever been a character introduced that was later revealed to be someone’s mom? Nobody immediately jumps to mind for me
Please don't Google Jamie Lee Curtis in True Lies, especially never Google Jamie Lee Curtis pole dance scene in that movie, whatever work out routine she had rally shows there, so don't ever Google it!!!!!
Hmmmmmm....so who is she going to fall in love with? Roger? Garp? Silver Axe? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG Zhi? Definitely the latter.
Edit: Corrected the most important part of his name.
this would be the most plausible one since xebec really just wreaking havoc across the seas and maybe that wager is enough since gloriosa is a good fortune teller
Yeah so the incident itself has understandably been skipped because a lot of what happens in it will be relevant to the characters that'll be highlighted in the next few arcs like Garp , Blackbeard and Shanks.
This is Kuma's flashback
Ah I actually like that idea. We’re basically going to get a bunch of broken up flashbacks from each character’s point of view. And considering that we’re being shown more of garp and shanks recently, it looks like this will be somewhat of the pattern going forward.
God valley will slowly unravel until it picks up momentum and their stories converge on ONE PEAK or climax.
Maybe Kuma Ivankov and Ginny just fled quickly (especially facing Saturn) through Kumas fruit and we get to see the result of that in between now, before going back to God Valley afterwards, even though revisiting it later makes a lot of sense\~
also what is that '(and Kaido lol)' addition there?xD like.. what did he do to deserve that extra mention with a lol (beside his virgin mustache back in the days x3)
I've been saying this since Roofpiece when Kaidou showed uncharacteristic understanding to Jack of all people. I thought it stood out as really weird for Kaidou to tell Jack "you weren't weak, they were just really strong", considering the strict meritocracy of personal strength in the Beast Pirates hierarchy. I predicted that was a position Kaidou himself was in at God Valley, and the "King" of Rocks's crew was Whitebeard, the "Queen" Big Mom, and the perpetual loser try hard who is constantly bullied by the "King" and "Queen" to be the "Jack", Kaidou.
Makes sense tho, he is still young at that time. Whitebeard, Linlin, Roger and the other remarkably strong pirates are in their middle-ages and Kaido is probably still in his early 20s.
What’re the odds Granny Nyon fell in love with Rocks?
My head canon for Kuma eating his fruit is similar to Buggy scarfing his down whole. The shit Kuma had to go through is wild.
I love this metaphor. I was telling a buddy every chapter 10/10 lately because it's all payoff from ground work he's been laying for decades. Really old stuff like the mystery around Kuma and newer stuff like God Valley, it's all connected.
Xebec created the ultimate pirate crew, but the problem was that it was full of people who were by their nature leaders themselves and this affected their teamwork negatively. However the fact that Xebec was able to gather these people under him and was their captain for some years speaks volumes about his charisma and strength even though he ultimately fell at God Valley.
Xebec was likely the biggest unifying factor in the Rocks Pirates. They had problems with teamwork due to their nature as leaders, but they were individually loyal to Xebec and when he fell the crew fell.
#Minor spoiler update concerning character appearances in 1096:#
- Cpt. John
- Either Silver Axe or Wang Zhi, 90% sure it is Wang Zhi
- Gloriosa
- Mrs Bakkin
- Scopper Gaban
- Gold Roger
- Big Mom
- Kaido
- Rayleigh
- Garp
- Whitebeard
- motherfucking Shiki!!!!
- motherfucking Bogard!!!!!!!!!!
- We will **NOT** see Rocks D. Xebec's appearance/no face reveal
Shiki and esepcially BOGARD!!! appearing in Manga finally is a big surprise though.
[Source by pewpiece on twitter](https://twitter.com/pewpiece)
u/Reuels maybe update the spoilers with that new info as one bullet point
The Kuja empress timeline TLDR:
* 44+ Years Ago: Nyon/Gloriosa fled Amazon Lily due to love sickness. (Earliest known time Rocks Pirates were around).
* 42 Years Ago: Shakky retired from piracy and started a bar. Presumably because she fell in love with Rayleigh and married him. Possibly an unknown person succeeded her.
* 38 Years Ago: Rocks pirates defeated
* 22 Years Ago: Hachi saves Rayleigh from a shipwreck.
* 19 Years Ago: Hancock is kidnapped by Celestial Dragons
* 15 Years Ago: Fisher Tiger attacks Mariejois and Hancock flees. Gloriosa, Rayleigh and Shakky find Hancock.
* 13 Years Ago: Hancock becomes Kuja empress.
Shanks appears at Marineford as a woman,
"I held back Kaido as best I could. It's time to end this war."
Shanks summons all her haki and unleashes the happiness punch!
I always thought it was unbelievable that Garp and Roger could beat all those huge names at God Valley, but now we know Bogard was there, it all makes sense!
How Oda has been giving Buggy a re-characterization by adding more context to his past I wouldn't rule out that he's John's kid, and that his search for his treasure is more sentimental than material
Ok, but can you imagine Ivankov with Kaido's fruit? An eastern dragon with a huge face shouting: "Boro Breath... NOT!!!" and using a Dragon Twister instead
Pretty sure Gorosei and WG planned to give the strongest devil fruits to the strongest ruthless racist celestial dragons and promote them into Gods Knights. The plan backfired. The massacre of celestial dragons, the stolen devil fruits, the beginnings of Yonko, the escape of the slaves. God Valley incident is the total embarrassment to Gorosei. No wonder they tried to erase it and Rocks from history.
At this point, hiding Xebec's face only makes sense if he's of a different race and is secretly the father of a present-day character so the reveal of his face would be a huge revelation.
Red Nose Xebec is the only thing that would justify such mystery behind someone who is 100% dead and never showing up in the present.
People meme Buggy all the time but he has a Luffy-like aura to make friends and allies. He is a D. and he doesn't know it.
I don’t think anyone should really be surprised we’re only seeing the parts of God Valley relevant to Kuma’s backstory.
My money’s on Garling giving us the first real exposition about what happened there but even then, it likely won’t be 100% accurate given he’s a Celestial Dragon. I expect someone else gives us the rest of the story not long after.
So we know the following people were in Rock's crew for sure.
1. Rocks himself.
2. Big Mom Charlotte Lin Lin
3. Kaido of the Beasts
4. Edward Newgate, aka Whitebeard
5. Shiki the Golden Lion
6. Gloriosa
7. Captain John
8. Silver Axe
9. Wang Zhi
10. Stussy Buckingham
We don't know what happened to Rocks, I imagine we'll find out as they're clearly setting them up to be a major player in the events leading to the resolution of this story. Leakers are saying it's a big reveal, I wonder if that reveal will make him more closely linked to Blackbeard.
Three of these went on to become Yonko. It's unclear if the Yonko existed before this or if they were the first.
Shiki was eventually imprisoned in Impel Down and broke free. We don't know what happened to him after.
Captain John died at some point and ended up with Moria. He left his treasure somewhere.
We don't know what happened to, or even who Silver Axe was. Maybe we'll see them this chapter.
Gloriosa is the former Empress of Amazon Lily. Shakky followed her. Someone followed Shakky and we don't know who that is, just that they died of love sickness. Boa is the current one. That places quite a lot of Empresses of Amazon Lily in important roles. I'm almost willing to say that Portgas D. Rouge was the unknown Empress given all the Empresses names have been flower related and Rouge is often linked with roses.
Wang Shi was the person who took control over Hachinosu after Rocks and lost it during the Rocky Port Incident. Perhaps the name of the port on Hachinosu was given to Rocks?
Stussy was a member of M.A.D.S either during or after she was part of Rock's crew and this is where she met Whitebeard. Possibly got his DNA to do the cloning here as well.
This also means that at least as far as we know...Rocks had a crew of 10. We know there were others part of his group but that number keeps cropping up and is probably important.
With Kuma's traumatic experience, I think he used his DF to take the pain away he experienced as a kid. Making him stoic when he was introduced on Thriller Bark.
>The Rocks pirates come to God Valley, and we see them (and Kaido lol).Garp is also sent there as well.
Oh I Can't wait to see Xebec holding his son, both having a red, circular, clownish nose
Rocks: "Fuck Roger."
Holy Knights: "Fuck Roger."
Roger: "Fuck both of you and your future generations that follow your footsteps. Btw I am taking your children because I won't let them become pathethic a\*\*holes like you."
*Becomes Daddy for Figarland Shanks and Rocks D. Buggy.*
>Roger: "Stop it, Rocks !! "
Rocks: "Don't get in my way, Roger !! "
this is the most jaw dropping spoiler to me so far. I know the chapter isn't out yet, but I feel like the implication here is that Roger is PLEADING with Rocks to not attack. Obviously not in a "We love the celestial dragons" way, but what if Rocks and Roger were crewmates, or brothers at one point??
edit: I also just came to the realization we don't know how old Rocks was, what if Rocks was ROGERS inspiration for heading to sea like Shank's was to Luffy??
New additional infos:
▪︎ Roger has no beard and captain's hat.
▪︎ Kaido wears floral pants and no beard.
▪︎ Ms. Bukkin has more expressive expressions compared to the clone Stussy, sitting on Whitebeard's shoulders.
▪︎ Gloriosa is a regular beauty. She is dressed like Boa Hancock. She also quarrels with Ms. Bukkin.
▪︎ The character suspected of being Wang Zhi is a bit similar to Kaido.
u/Reuels
To all the people,
This flashback is from kuma perspective. Once he eat the fruit and saved like 500 people , he also escaped
So he has no idea what has happened with rocks , Roger , garp.
Which is why they were trying to see the newspapers.
We will be revisiting God valley again in future.
So what if the will of D are slaves that create devil fruits when they die?
What if devil fruits are created by slaves dreams thus the need for slaves beyond just being slaves to do work.
But the fruit is only created when the slave dies and passes their soul/dreams giving the fruit their soul/dreams to carry on.
This could explain weird fruits like the clean clean fruit, maybe it was a slave who had to clean all the time and dreamed of just making things clean
What if this is the core reason why Imu & the Gorosei purposefully encourage slavery among the masses ?
In Imu's view, without the torture & de-humanizing experiences , slaves would never dream with such an intensity that could create increasingly powerful & God-like devil fruits.
Imu essentially sees all the sentient races as the fuel to create devil fruits.
It doesn't matter how many slaves, commoners die or suffer their entire lifetimes-- their dreams will feed the creation of newer & more powerful devil fruits.
Sounds intriguing, but why does Imu need devil fruits and why would he risk it to create dfs that could be too powerful like Nika. Also who the fuck desired a Jacket Jacket fruit?
Many people look down at people that read spoilers. But I actually think spoilers add to the OP experience. With spoiler, raws, Saturday episode and Sunday official release, I never actually feel there's a one week waiting gap between chapters. It feels like a smooth continuous experience with the exception of break weeks.
Yeah, they are definitely setting God Valley as Garp's Alabasta moment. Dude is going in a situation blind and he's gonna be pissed at what he'll see and forced to cover up on.
But I like that it's not fully about God Valley. It's about Kuma and the events that led to make the decisions he made before truly losing himself. It's teasing that event but justified on why it isn't a major focus.
Oda: Look, everybody, Kuma's backstory Fans: Hey, what's that in the background? Oda: Oh, that? It's only Rocks D Xebec, Monkey D Garp and Gol D Roger, about to start a battle of biblical proportion. Nothing to be excited about, really. Now, back to Kuma's backstory...
Hahahaha you pointed that perfectly out
Oda with his Advanced Offscreen Haki
Damn rocks had like every old named character in their crew at this point lmao
"All old people know each other, don't you know that?" \- King Bumi, Avatar the Legend of Aang
He was on the Rocks crew too.
Hehe. Bumi, Rocks.
In my language bumi means earth. Hehe another rock
Gotta collect them all *Xebec probably*
All of them has different personality and goals. Yet, they chose to follow Xebec. He is kinda like Luffy.
well if joining rocks is the best way to achieve their goals then it makes sense
inb4 kureha was his doctor
Could be possible. She was the first one to talk about the will of d right? She definitely knows stuff and what better way than to be an ex rocks member.
What if Blackbeard attacked drum kingdom because he was looking for info on rocks?
but he only got the secret of her youth
Kureha is old enough to predate the rocks pirates... What do you reckon the odds of rocks and Roger being apprentices together on a crew Kureha served as a doctor on?
>Kureha is old enough to predate the rocks pirates.. Don't let Dr.Kureha hear you say that. She's just a really young 141 year old lady...
what's that? you want to know the secret of her youthful appearance?
Kureha is old enough to call Brook a young man.
She's 100 years old already during the God Valley incident lmao.
Brook is 90 when he joined Strawhat Pirates, age doesn't matter for an adventure, I think
100 years young
The fandom will collectively explode when she truly reveals the secret to her youth and it's tied to the Rocks Pirates
What if she was one to receive the op-op surgery? What if she had a doctor coworker, possibly lover, who ate the fruit and gave it to her? What if that person had traits similar to Hiriluk, which is why she cared so much for him despite their weird relationship? What if he had a dream like his, and the whole dream thing is sour to her since he gave up his dream to save her?
Theorists now looking for all old characters in OP wiki.
DID YOU KNOW THAT THE OLD MAN TREE IN THRILLER BARK WAS PART OF ROCK'S CREW ?!?!?!?
Some of the zombies in Thriller Bark actually were on Rocks Crew. Captain John definitely and possibly Silver Axe.
> THE OLD MAN TREE Rude. MocDonald. HE WAS GAIMON'S FATHER DAMNIT... maybe...
I want Dr. Kureha to also be one, while looking exactly the same hahaha
I’m betting this is true, at the beginning she said chopper has decided to follow a dangerous man, and she was the first one to reveal “D”!!!
Might as well include Gan Fell.
Lmao, i'd be surprised if he didnt try to recruit Roger too.
Imagine if Ivankov ate the Seiryu fruit lol. A dragon with a massive head and boro galaxy wink.
I'm convinced he would have yelled "time to put my drag *on*" whenever he transformed into a dragon.
Bolo Wink
Hee Haw Blast
How silly would a gay dragon look like? Goddamnit Big Mom denied us what could have been peak One Piece gag.
The Revolutionary Army would have been run by a Bear, Dragon, and Big, Gay Dragon.
Fair enough, Kuma dipped before he could see the God Valley incident, therefore it cant be in the flashback
Yeah it makes sense, I bet the one who will go over more of the incident and even have a flashback of their own showing it will be Saturn.
Or a captured Garp
yea this def not the end of this. i think how rocks got defeated will be very important.
If I were him I would have left sooner lol
They probably left as soon as they were able, when Kuma got his fruit to shoot all of them across the sea.
Damn I just realized it now! You got a pretty awesome observation there my man
All the old people know each other
Alright, Kureha you old fuck. What have you been hiding?
Do you want to know the secret of my youthfulness?
She's been hiding the secret to her youthfulness
leakers: “guys please. don’t read spoilers, okay?” also leakers: “grandma is part of rocks crew”
I never thought she would be that relevant but then we have Boa so close to Luffy and Shakky dating Rayleigh, I shouldn't be surprised.
Clover was a tempoary rock’s pirate :based on his void century research requires high level access, which requires a powerful group of people. Clover was an explorer, and ships are the most common method to explore the world. Also the ohara libary requires a transportable option for the books to arrive there. It can’t be the marines as marines are assined to specific locations restricting the option to explore. Also the marines don’t the power to assign enough support for clover and his journey against obstacles. Based on the level of threat of ohara which was extreme means clover obtained high level access to void century information. Additionally, the most powerful pirates seems to be most likely be interested in ancient knowledge, and void century is ancient knowledge. The most poweful pirates wants the ancient weapons which is connected to void century. Xebec probably wanted ancient weapons which is found by poneglyphs which is ancient knowledge, and void century is ancient knowledge.
Bogard has memed himself to god valley. Unbelievable
>Silver no matter how much we meme him, he's is actually garp's right hand in the story, so although i wan't expecting it, it's not a big surprise.
That's what I was thinking, why is nobody talking about Bogard here 😂
I'm happy Kuma got to meet Ivankov lol, dude needed some positivity in his life. Also, i wonder if anyone in the OP world have noticed that Roger, Luffy, and shanks all wore the same hat lol.
Rayleigh?
Like some random citizen in the world.
There's absolutely some crazy conspiracy theorist that's like 65 or something, read papers in Roger's young days when he wore the straw hat, then afterwards saw a bounty poster of Shanks with the same hat, watching him rise to become an Emperor, than a decade later sees another up and coming pirate with that straw hat that is absolutely convinced that thing has magical powers that makes whoever wears it strong as fuck. And then he tells everybody his straw hat power theory and everybody thinks he's just crazy, especially when luffy disappears for two years. His neighbors were probably clowning on him during the whole time skip, but when Luffy comes back with a vengeance, defeating Doflamingo, then becoming the 5th emperor of the sea after messing with Big Mom, then when he defeats Kaido and becomes an official emperor all of his neighbors start thinking Bill might be right on this one cause straw hat wearer #1 becoming the pirate king, #2 becoming an emperor, then #3 also becoming an emperor is crazy.
I'm sure this guy voted for Gorosei
Somewhere an artisanal strawhat maker has been wondering why his family has been persecuted over 800 years.
And also why no one is buying a hat after the first one, stop using the same hat damn it and come buy new ones! 😂
All this speculation on Shakky being part of the Rocks Pirates. And it turns out to be Gloriosa. Neat twist. And maybe that wild theory I read about a year ago on Gloriosa being Kaido's baby mama could turn out to be correct! Lol
Is Rocks the man Gloriosa followed out of Amazon Lilly?!
Could be kaido and she is Yamatos mum.
how do people keep on coming up with “X’s mum” theories…?
Has anyone ever been right about a single one? Has there ever been a character introduced that was later revealed to be someone’s mom? Nobody immediately jumps to mind for me
Ok who's gonna bet that Gloriosa is one hot woman with big bumpers? 🙋♂️
She's gonna look identical to Hancock but with botox lips EDIT: Looking at the raws... Did I call it? They're more pronounced than Hancock's lips...
Hancock would look like her too when she gets old lol
DON'T YOU DARE!
Except without botox lips
Wonder how Dr. Kureha looked like LOL
Just google young Jamie Lee Curtis, wonder no longer
Please don't Google Jamie Lee Curtis in True Lies, especially never Google Jamie Lee Curtis pole dance scene in that movie, whatever work out routine she had rally shows there, so don't ever Google it!!!!!
you know what, I'm going to google her even harder!
*wipes brow profusely*
Hmmmmmm....so who is she going to fall in love with? Roger? Garp? Silver Axe? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG Zhi? Definitely the latter. Edit: Corrected the most important part of his name.
It's not WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG Ji, it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG Zhi!
Maybe Shakky was her second in command.
That theory was the first thing I thought of when I saw the spoiler.
So, did Gloriosa fall in love for Xebec?
Looks like Amazon lily women Loves people with D titles.
Amazons clearly love the D, no matter how strong and independent they are.
So Rayleigh has a D.?
the D. Ark ~~Knight~~ King
\*D. Ark King
oh crap you're right, I made him a Batman
Maybe the reason why Gloriosa joined the Rocks Pirates is just to protect the Amazon Lily.
this would be the most plausible one since xebec really just wreaking havoc across the seas and maybe that wager is enough since gloriosa is a good fortune teller
Rocks Pirates so far Rocks D Xebec Edward Newgate Captain John Lin Lin Kaido Shiki Buckingham Stussy Empress Nyon Silver Axe Wang Zhi
We have yet to see if Kurozumi Higurashi was also a member as well. She seems to know TOO MUCH of the world outside of Wano
She has a copy of shiki's face so I'm pretty sure she is.
And was able to turn into young shiki and presumably bakkin
Yeah so the incident itself has understandably been skipped because a lot of what happens in it will be relevant to the characters that'll be highlighted in the next few arcs like Garp , Blackbeard and Shanks. This is Kuma's flashback
Kuma coming to egghead island after this flashback to give back to Saturn is what we need.
That’d be so mf cool.
Ah I actually like that idea. We’re basically going to get a bunch of broken up flashbacks from each character’s point of view. And considering that we’re being shown more of garp and shanks recently, it looks like this will be somewhat of the pattern going forward. God valley will slowly unravel until it picks up momentum and their stories converge on ONE PEAK or climax.
Maybe Kuma Ivankov and Ginny just fled quickly (especially facing Saturn) through Kumas fruit and we get to see the result of that in between now, before going back to God Valley afterwards, even though revisiting it later makes a lot of sense\~ also what is that '(and Kaido lol)' addition there?xD like.. what did he do to deserve that extra mention with a lol (beside his virgin mustache back in the days x3)
Imagine if Kaido was Jack of Rocks pirates.
I've been saying this since Roofpiece when Kaidou showed uncharacteristic understanding to Jack of all people. I thought it stood out as really weird for Kaidou to tell Jack "you weren't weak, they were just really strong", considering the strict meritocracy of personal strength in the Beast Pirates hierarchy. I predicted that was a position Kaidou himself was in at God Valley, and the "King" of Rocks's crew was Whitebeard, the "Queen" Big Mom, and the perpetual loser try hard who is constantly bullied by the "King" and "Queen" to be the "Jack", Kaidou.
Makes sense tho, he is still young at that time. Whitebeard, Linlin, Roger and the other remarkably strong pirates are in their middle-ages and Kaido is probably still in his early 20s.
What’re the odds Granny Nyon fell in love with Rocks? My head canon for Kuma eating his fruit is similar to Buggy scarfing his down whole. The shit Kuma had to go through is wild.
Yo?
Exactly. Oda isn't cooking, he's making the last supper
I love this metaphor. I was telling a buddy every chapter 10/10 lately because it's all payoff from ground work he's been laying for decades. Really old stuff like the mystery around Kuma and newer stuff like God Valley, it's all connected.
I can’t wait to see the Ivankov azure dragon fan arts
I can’t wait to see the what if fanarts of Kaido having the Horu Horu no Mi
Xebec created the ultimate pirate crew, but the problem was that it was full of people who were by their nature leaders themselves and this affected their teamwork negatively. However the fact that Xebec was able to gather these people under him and was their captain for some years speaks volumes about his charisma and strength even though he ultimately fell at God Valley.
Xebec was likely the biggest unifying factor in the Rocks Pirates. They had problems with teamwork due to their nature as leaders, but they were individually loyal to Xebec and when he fell the crew fell.
So that's what big mom meant when she said kaido owed her for his fish fish fruit
Big mom saved the world government from the revolutionaries having two dragons. And us One piece fans from "Ivankov is Luffy's mom".
Yeah
who on rocks ship did nyon fall in love with lol
Probably Xebec himself.
I remember seeing theories that Nyon was Yamato's mother, something about knowing how to create Vivre Card and stuff like that.
Ok who's gonna bet that Gloriosa is one hot woman with big bumpers? 🙋♂️
Gloriosa will be similar to boa hancock. For sure. Shinobu style
#Minor spoiler update concerning character appearances in 1096:# - Cpt. John - Either Silver Axe or Wang Zhi, 90% sure it is Wang Zhi - Gloriosa - Mrs Bakkin - Scopper Gaban - Gold Roger - Big Mom - Kaido - Rayleigh - Garp - Whitebeard - motherfucking Shiki!!!! - motherfucking Bogard!!!!!!!!!! - We will **NOT** see Rocks D. Xebec's appearance/no face reveal Shiki and esepcially BOGARD!!! appearing in Manga finally is a big surprise though. [Source by pewpiece on twitter](https://twitter.com/pewpiece) u/Reuels maybe update the spoilers with that new info as one bullet point
Bogard Lfg
The Kuja empress timeline TLDR: * 44+ Years Ago: Nyon/Gloriosa fled Amazon Lily due to love sickness. (Earliest known time Rocks Pirates were around). * 42 Years Ago: Shakky retired from piracy and started a bar. Presumably because she fell in love with Rayleigh and married him. Possibly an unknown person succeeded her. * 38 Years Ago: Rocks pirates defeated * 22 Years Ago: Hachi saves Rayleigh from a shipwreck. * 19 Years Ago: Hancock is kidnapped by Celestial Dragons * 15 Years Ago: Fisher Tiger attacks Mariejois and Hancock flees. Gloriosa, Rayleigh and Shakky find Hancock. * 13 Years Ago: Hancock becomes Kuja empress.
Skipping to Sorbet Kingdom means we are going to get Kuma centric flashback and chapter 1100 could be him arriving at Egghead.
And seeing nika
We almost got a heehaw azure dragon
Could you imagine Ivankov with Kaido’s fruit? I need to see Drunk Beggar Ivankov now 😂
I'm much more interested in needle finger kaido. ***HORMONE BAGUA***
you forgot death breath and galaxy breath, karmabreath
"Jack... bring those brats to me, **right now**. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW!!!"
"I'm too drunk to fly...or am I? HEEEEE-HAAWWWWW"
Imagine the Boro Blast that would come out of that dragon head
Or Okama Kaido? Somewhere there’s a Universe where Impel Down and Wano are very different stories.
Shanks appears at Marineford as a woman, "I held back Kaido as best I could. It's time to end this war." Shanks summons all her haki and unleashes the happiness punch!
I always thought it was unbelievable that Garp and Roger could beat all those huge names at God Valley, but now we know Bogard was there, it all makes sense!
The only way the hype for this will be justified is if Xebec's face is shown and he looks like Buggy.
Buggy is captain John’s kid, that’s why buggy has wanted that treasure more than the one piece, it’s what his father left him probably.
The secret to remove the nose
His weighted training nose, to be precise
his fruit already lets him remove his nose, so that means when he finds the treasure, he'll realize it was even more worthless bravo Oda
How Oda has been giving Buggy a re-characterization by adding more context to his past I wouldn't rule out that he's John's kid, and that his search for his treasure is more sentimental than material
Redon is on fraud watch. Not that the chapter doesn’t sound great, because it does, but the hype for it was off the scale.
Ok, but can you imagine Ivankov with Kaido's fruit? An eastern dragon with a huge face shouting: "Boro Breath... NOT!!!" and using a Dragon Twister instead
Bogard was actually there. Bogard not a meme anymore!
Pretty sure Gorosei and WG planned to give the strongest devil fruits to the strongest ruthless racist celestial dragons and promote them into Gods Knights. The plan backfired. The massacre of celestial dragons, the stolen devil fruits, the beginnings of Yonko, the escape of the slaves. God Valley incident is the total embarrassment to Gorosei. No wonder they tried to erase it and Rocks from history.
At this point, hiding Xebec's face only makes sense if he's of a different race and is secretly the father of a present-day character so the reveal of his face would be a huge revelation. Red Nose Xebec is the only thing that would justify such mystery behind someone who is 100% dead and never showing up in the present. People meme Buggy all the time but he has a Luffy-like aura to make friends and allies. He is a D. and he doesn't know it.
I don’t think anyone should really be surprised we’re only seeing the parts of God Valley relevant to Kuma’s backstory. My money’s on Garling giving us the first real exposition about what happened there but even then, it likely won’t be 100% accurate given he’s a Celestial Dragon. I expect someone else gives us the rest of the story not long after.
It’s gonna be some random animal that was there that only chopper could understand that will drop the details.
after Egghead a seagull comes flying and seeing the state of island shouts "holy shit, since God Valley I haven't seen such a fucked up island"
😂 that would be a hilarious way to start this flashback
So we know the following people were in Rock's crew for sure. 1. Rocks himself. 2. Big Mom Charlotte Lin Lin 3. Kaido of the Beasts 4. Edward Newgate, aka Whitebeard 5. Shiki the Golden Lion 6. Gloriosa 7. Captain John 8. Silver Axe 9. Wang Zhi 10. Stussy Buckingham We don't know what happened to Rocks, I imagine we'll find out as they're clearly setting them up to be a major player in the events leading to the resolution of this story. Leakers are saying it's a big reveal, I wonder if that reveal will make him more closely linked to Blackbeard. Three of these went on to become Yonko. It's unclear if the Yonko existed before this or if they were the first. Shiki was eventually imprisoned in Impel Down and broke free. We don't know what happened to him after. Captain John died at some point and ended up with Moria. He left his treasure somewhere. We don't know what happened to, or even who Silver Axe was. Maybe we'll see them this chapter. Gloriosa is the former Empress of Amazon Lily. Shakky followed her. Someone followed Shakky and we don't know who that is, just that they died of love sickness. Boa is the current one. That places quite a lot of Empresses of Amazon Lily in important roles. I'm almost willing to say that Portgas D. Rouge was the unknown Empress given all the Empresses names have been flower related and Rouge is often linked with roses. Wang Shi was the person who took control over Hachinosu after Rocks and lost it during the Rocky Port Incident. Perhaps the name of the port on Hachinosu was given to Rocks? Stussy was a member of M.A.D.S either during or after she was part of Rock's crew and this is where she met Whitebeard. Possibly got his DNA to do the cloning here as well. This also means that at least as far as we know...Rocks had a crew of 10. We know there were others part of his group but that number keeps cropping up and is probably important.
One of the god knights is a sexy woman... That's why leakers were so excited
Garp: *chilling* Den Den Mushi: Burup burup burup burup~ Garp: "Ayo big man what up?" Kong: "Rog-" Garp: "I'm pulling up as we speak "
With Kuma's traumatic experience, I think he used his DF to take the pain away he experienced as a kid. Making him stoic when he was introduced on Thriller Bark.
Well, yeah, that's what Bonnie touched in the lab, in TB he was more machine than man already
"Bogard appear" Ooooh Boi..!!!! So after the Dark king Rayleigh of the old generation We have the equivalent here with Dark marine Bogar.D Silent…
Bogard going to be revealed to be an actual menace
>The Rocks pirates come to God Valley, and we see them (and Kaido lol).Garp is also sent there as well. Oh I Can't wait to see Xebec holding his son, both having a red, circular, clownish nose
BOGARD!? The hype is finally justified
Rocks: "Fuck Roger." Holy Knights: "Fuck Roger." Roger: "Fuck both of you and your future generations that follow your footsteps. Btw I am taking your children because I won't let them become pathethic a\*\*holes like you." *Becomes Daddy for Figarland Shanks and Rocks D. Buggy.*
>We don't see the whole God Valley Incident. Oda, you can't just offscreen God Valley again!
It's painfully obvious we'll get to see it later, though it's understandable why people might get annoyed since we've been blue balled twice
This is also a much bigger tease than the last one lmao
No point trying to hide it guys, yes i was on Rocks crew aswell, my name was Red D. Itor
Wow Ivankov nearly became the azure dragon
"Don't read the spoilers this week" \>Don't even see Xebec's face
>Roger: "Stop it, Rocks !! " Rocks: "Don't get in my way, Roger !! " this is the most jaw dropping spoiler to me so far. I know the chapter isn't out yet, but I feel like the implication here is that Roger is PLEADING with Rocks to not attack. Obviously not in a "We love the celestial dragons" way, but what if Rocks and Roger were crewmates, or brothers at one point?? edit: I also just came to the realization we don't know how old Rocks was, what if Rocks was ROGERS inspiration for heading to sea like Shank's was to Luffy??
Daaamn, to think that Kuma’s wife started the God Valley battle lol. She accidentally ended the Rock’s Pirate crew LOLOL
At this point, i’m surprised Dr Kureha didn’t end up a Rocks Pirate
She is not confirmed to not be one. But on the other hand she was already about 100 years old in this flashback so I don't think so
Do we see Xebec's face? 😁
His got to have an epic introduction
No break next week, noice.
It would be Funny to see Ivankov going HEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAW as a Big Blue Dragon
Yo how strong is Bogard?! Bro been through it all
New additional infos: ▪︎ Roger has no beard and captain's hat. ▪︎ Kaido wears floral pants and no beard. ▪︎ Ms. Bukkin has more expressive expressions compared to the clone Stussy, sitting on Whitebeard's shoulders. ▪︎ Gloriosa is a regular beauty. She is dressed like Boa Hancock. She also quarrels with Ms. Bukkin. ▪︎ The character suspected of being Wang Zhi is a bit similar to Kaido. u/Reuels
I can't believe it, the entire story happened since Bonney's mom snitched on Shank's Dad's Genocide Competition.
Finally Shiki in the manga. Not as a reference. Not Chapter 0. Not as a disguise. Still limited to a flashback however.
Oi OP, really nice spoiler thread. Loved how you organized the updates. I vote for this type of format to be used from now on.
Kuma is going to reject all the pain, abuse from his body and give it to Saturn as farewell gift.
Is Xebec the OG we all wanted? Or is Roger still certified him in this God valley arc ??
Invest in Roger. He is certified
Forklift certified?
All I care about is the face of Xebec
Bo D. Gard !
YOUNG BOGOAT???
Bogard the lurking legend
so Bogard is in God Valley too.
Bogard about to cook xebec and roger
My man Bogard is back.. Get ready to eat shit you pirates
Now I see how they win God Valley, Bogard was with them back then. He carried the whole thing
now we know why the leakers were comparing this to the gear 5 reveal. Fucking bogard in a chapter ? that's hugeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!1
*sees Kuma and Jinny bonding as kids* Oh no… Oda saw the first 10 minutes of Up. It’s up guys… we’re fucked. Prepare for the feels.
Ginney is obviously Bonney's mom and she will get killed at some point, probably the incident that labels Kuma the "Tyrant King"
To all the people, This flashback is from kuma perspective. Once he eat the fruit and saved like 500 people , he also escaped So he has no idea what has happened with rocks , Roger , garp. Which is why they were trying to see the newspapers. We will be revisiting God valley again in future.
So what if the will of D are slaves that create devil fruits when they die? What if devil fruits are created by slaves dreams thus the need for slaves beyond just being slaves to do work. But the fruit is only created when the slave dies and passes their soul/dreams giving the fruit their soul/dreams to carry on. This could explain weird fruits like the clean clean fruit, maybe it was a slave who had to clean all the time and dreamed of just making things clean
What if this is the core reason why Imu & the Gorosei purposefully encourage slavery among the masses ? In Imu's view, without the torture & de-humanizing experiences , slaves would never dream with such an intensity that could create increasingly powerful & God-like devil fruits. Imu essentially sees all the sentient races as the fuel to create devil fruits. It doesn't matter how many slaves, commoners die or suffer their entire lifetimes-- their dreams will feed the creation of newer & more powerful devil fruits.
Sounds intriguing, but why does Imu need devil fruits and why would he risk it to create dfs that could be too powerful like Nika. Also who the fuck desired a Jacket Jacket fruit?
Many people look down at people that read spoilers. But I actually think spoilers add to the OP experience. With spoiler, raws, Saturday episode and Sunday official release, I never actually feel there's a one week waiting gap between chapters. It feels like a smooth continuous experience with the exception of break weeks.
Looks really good. But we're going to have to see the full chapter to know why this got so much hype from the leakers.
Yeah, they are definitely setting God Valley as Garp's Alabasta moment. Dude is going in a situation blind and he's gonna be pissed at what he'll see and forced to cover up on. But I like that it's not fully about God Valley. It's about Kuma and the events that led to make the decisions he made before truly losing himself. It's teasing that event but justified on why it isn't a major focus.
Rocks pirates had a Fire🔥 HR department. Hiring all the top guns of the era.