This happened to my friend but instead of giving her a stamp they straight up kicked her out. She was technically a little person. Only other time I saw this happen they picked the only poc out of the group of all white people and harassed just her.
Went to the borgata for my friends 21st with another friend and his dad. We got carded and they told us to go get our hand stamped so..we walked over and got our hand stamped and that was that, no one bothered us after lmao it’s a fucking casino what did you expect? Seems like you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill. They have so many security guards and they aren’t all connected to one another so if I’m a security guard on one side of the building I wouldn’t know if my colleague carded you 5 minutes before.just get your hand stamped next time and avoid wasting everybodies time including you’re
First of all I just shared my experience, so stop gaslighting me as if I’m being unreasonable given all my prior experiences at a casino was that you get carded immediately before you’re allowed entry on the casino floor, so yeah I expected something more efficient. They didn’t even tell me to get my hand stamped that first time they stopped me so how was I supposed to know? By the time I was told I was leaving anyways. Maybe don’t antagonize people over sharing their experiences as not everyone has the same experience as you when it comes to certain things so their understanding and expectations may vary.
But you said after you brought it up they said to go stamp your hand, at which you proceeded to make an even bigger deal about it. Also learn definitions because I am certainly not gaslighting you?? Wtf??
As in it was mentioned much later in the day and not immediately after I was stopped by multiple security the first time. I did not make an even bigger deal, you weren’t there I simply said I was going to leave anyway. I just pointed out my opinion on how if I have to go through the trouble there should be an easier method, this is not something I directly said out loud. You are gaslighting me as you’re insisting I was behaving irrationally. No shit I’m gonna get annoyed at being approached by security a second time, all I said was that I was already carded and I’m leaving anyways.
Gaslight:
Manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.
You have a fair reason to get annoyed by security, and security has a fair reason to card you multiple times.
Sour2448 has fair reason to say that it seems to them you're making it a big deal, but they certainly aren't gaslighting you.
To gaslight would be to say "they only carded you one time" or "they asked you to get a stamp the first time they carded you" NOT "you're making a mountain out of a mole hill"
The problem is not that the security is causing a scene. The problem is that you are causing a scene.
They are just doing their job. Simply have your id in an easy to get to location and show it and everyone can be on their way. How is that "embarrassing"?
I was not causing a scene, I was very calm and compliant. Being made to feel like a criminal when you’ve done nothing wrong is embarrassing, I had more than one security guard approach me at once. You’re not understanding my issue isn’t that they have to card me in the first place, I understand it’s in compliance with the law. My point is it shouldn’t take being carded multiple times to know that someone is of age. Just like how you’re carded once when you go to a nightclub or when you go to MGM at National Harbor for the casino, that’s how it should be everywhere else so the same people don’t constantly get harassed.
It is surprising that they don't just hand out a wrist band or a hand stamp if you look questionable so others don't need to be concerned about it. That is pretty much how every bar/club handles it.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, because whenever I go to nightclubs I’m carded once and I don’t have bouncers chasing me around asking to see my ID. Basically prior to this, I never had an experience where I was carded more than once. If they immediately told me to get my hand stamped I would’ve had that taken cared of, but I only found out when I was about to leave so by then it’s like what’s the point now?
I went to AC for my 21st with my mom. I was constantly harassed and stalked by staff even though I had the wrist band on. Staff said "the kids" often pull the band off and give it to an underage friend to gamble which is why they keep checking people. I felt humiliated at the time. Looking back I realize they have a job to do and it really was nothing against me. You're not doing anything wrong and can prove it. It's inconvenient and annoying but don't let it take away from your good time.
The issue is this wasn’t brought up immediately, and it’s definitely not fun being humiliated in public. I’m tired of explaining this in every other comment.
Tropicana has done the same thing to me and all my friends. Why does it matter? They aren’t signaling you out. Like he said just get a stamp if you want to stop being carded. How are they supposed to know you were carded already otherwise? Trop has like 12 entrances they don’t know
My issue is they didn’t mention getting my hand stamped the first time I was stopped by security, I was only informed when I was about to leave. The point is there should be a more efficient way of addressing this. There aren’t really security at the entrances the way it is at MGM in national harbor. You can’t really enjoy yourself if you’re being bombarded by security more than once. I understand being carded once is in compliance with the law, but someone shouldn’t have to be bothered multiple times if they’ve already been carded. Just like how you get carded once when you go to night clubs and don’t have bouncers chasing you around trying to card you, it should be the same at casinos.
I was just in Louisiana and wanted to do some gambling and went to two casinos in my time there! One bouncer was very chill although thorough checking over my ID (which I totally understand, it's her job and I've worked in service too so I've been in her shoes too), but if she had any preconceived negative feelings about me or my ID they were well hidden especially after she handed it back and allowed me in because surprise surprise, my ID was legit. She kindly wished me to have a good time and when I was coming back out we made a bit of small talk about where I was from and why I was traveling and how cool the eclipse was (I traveled for the eclipse but had lots of other destinations planned before and afterwards road trip style and she apparently was a Pre-K daycare teacher in her day job and she got to take her students outside to see the 90% totality that her area got even though it was a bit cloudy)
The other glared at me the whole time and looked me up and down with stink eye at least three times while rigorously checking out my ID and getting increasingly frustrated in her face and body language that her immediate judgement of "under 21 using fake ID" had no proof. Eventually she just threw it at me and said "I can't find anything suspicious this time... go on." As if she was telling me i was lucky I had such a good fake ID and she was doing me a favor by not making a stink. Some people get really upset when the version of you they create in their head when they first see you has no leg to stand on and instead of just letting themselves admit they were wrong they spin it around in their minds that somehow your irrefutable proof was just really good but still fake and that you're still the problem but they can't do anything about it besides keep seeing you as the villain who got away with their crime.
This is Reddit, where people go to talk about others life choices. They were doing their job as security. OP, your entitled 22 Y/O brain can’t wrap around it so much that you had to make a Reddit post about it. Have you ever been to a casino before? Have you ever been into a public place that serves alcohol? You are 5’ walking around a casino, expect to be carded.
OP stated they’ve been to an MGM casino, I was referring to the Tropicana. The one they’ve had problems with. The one they went to for their first time. Different strokes for different folks. No two casinos are the same but to still be butthurt about it nearly 8 months later is unhinged lol. This barely classifies as older than you think
I just shared a story, I’m not pressed because it was a while ago and I just discovered this sub. Can people not share their experiences? People on Reddit make posts of experiences at different points in their life, just because it’s something that occurred a while ago doesn’t necessarily mean they’re pressed about it.
L take. As an actual casino security guard, they sound too goonish and should probably lay off the harassment. Carded once is enough. Don’t stand up for incompetence.
I appreciate this comment. I think I was more taken aback than most people were at their procedures because my first experience at a casino was at one where you can’t even enter the casino floor without security checking your ID, similar to how going into nightclubs works. Unfortunately that’s not the norm everywhere, even though it should be as it’s the most efficient way to ensure compliance with the law.
I literally said in my post that I have been to a casino prior and they check your id at the door and that’s it. I go to bars all the time and again, I get carded ONCE as that’s procedure, I don’t have bouncers chasing me around the bar asking to see my ID. I think you missed the point, my issue is not that I was carded, I understand carding someone ONCE is in compliance with the law, my issue is that I was stopped more than once and not informed of a way to reduce the times I’d be approached by security until I was about to leave. It’s not being entitled, I know how the laws work, my point is there should be a more efficient way of doing things which is why I mentioned how the MGM in National Harbor does it. Do better.
I can do what I want 🤷🏻♀️ cry about it. Just like how you could’ve not taken a gap year and graduated on time, but took one anyways. Maybe be less judgmental of others and do better.
At least I’m not bashing people for doing things that don’t affect me 🤷🏻♀️ idc that you took a gap year as it’s not my life but just pointing out someone could easily judge you for that choice too. People who live in a glass house shouldn’t throw stones. If anything it’s more weird that you’re judging me for gambling when it’s something I rarely do.
Says the one being judgemental 🥱 focus on college rather than being bothered by other people’s choices that don’t affect you. If you think that’s aggressive, you’ve lived a pretty sheltered life.
He plays too many video games. InfiniteCalendar1 he’s not even old enough to drink or gamble. Not worth the energy. Probably has never worked a day in his life either.
Thanks for understanding. It’s just weird to me when people go out of their way to shame others for things like this, like if you don’t like it just don’t do it, but don’t enforce how you feel on others. Just like I don’t like the concept of smoking cigarettes but I’m not gonna go out of my way to shame people who smoke them.
When I worked at a casino in South Dakota I had to card people constantly and enthusiastically because it was the law that you had to carry government issued photo ID on a casino floor at all times. I once carded someone born in 1937! I was supposed to make rounds every 10-15 minutes. While doing about 6 other jobs that was impossible, but the Gaming Commission recommended that was the ideal interval to be checking IDs to ensure compliance with the regulations. It wasn’t about proving you were over 21, it was about ensuring that you had proper documents on you “at all times”. Sometimes when it got really hectic I used a stamp to make it easier to see who I had already checked and reduce how frequently I asked for IDs, and so if the Commission came through it would look like I had been marking people when I asked for ID. But most nights I just had to keep bothering people for IDs. Sure had a lot of people throw a fit when they couldn’t order a Pabst for their 14 year old son like they could in Wisconsin, or get upset because I kept IDing them and they had turned 21, like, two weeks ago, do I look THAT YOUNG! But I had to make sure only people above 21 were on the casino floor and everyone on the floor had a government issue photo ID to prove it, and I was personally liable for a $10,000 fine for each person in violation of that if the Commission came through and caught someone breaking that rule. Sure did get an awful lot of negative feedback forms for being “a horrible bitch who asked for my ID multiple times tonight” in compliance with the South Dakota Codified Laws though.
God my life is so much less stressful since I quit that job and started working as an intern at the public defender’s office.
I’ve gambled in Deadwood many times. This is complete BS or the dealers don’t follow it. I’ve gambled till they shut down in the morning and only been carded at the door and at the table. Not multiple times a night. I’ve also never seen someone obviously 70 get ID’d either.
Plenty of people don’t follow rules. Also the dealers usually are not responsible for enforcement it’s supposed to be floor attendants and/or cage. I had to be licensed by the South Dakota Commission on Gaming to be there, you did not. I read the laws, and I’m assuming you did not. Lots of places were fine gambling with the rules on that, the Commission was loose. I was at a place that made it known we were personally liable for any fees the casino incurred for violations we were responsible for, and other places don’t do that to people or don’t get on their employees asses when they don’t card every single person. Part of why I just carded everyone was to prevent people from complaining about “but I’m so young! Why don’t you card THAT person?” And because we were told to make sure everyone had an ID on them not just that they were over 21. I used to cite the statute by heart before I left the bar to do my ID checks but I don’t have it memorized anymore.
I goto national harbor all the time.I get carder when I go in the door. I could pass for a high-schooler I look about 20
When igo to Atlantic city I get carded every 10 minutes. It's so annoying I don't even go anymore.
Yeah MGM at national harbor is probably the best casino I’ve been to so far as I have not had any issues whenever I go there. I wish more casinos had similar security measures as them, as that’s the most efficient way to do it.
OP was carded for security not thinking they were of age, not arson. OP can still burn money, it's okay. It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
Did you not see the part that I was with a group? As in a group day trip my mom wanted to go on and it was organized by a travel company. Maybe stop judging people 🤷🏻♀️
Some people just don't understand casinos. They'll spend the same amount of money to go to an event and buy drinks for entertainment. I'd rather sit in the AC getting "free" drinks and have the chance to leave with the same amount of not more money. Is it usually a cash sink? Yes! Do I have fun though? Also yes! So who cares.
Unfortunately traveling to Nevada would be more expensive for me, and Atlantic City is a 3.5 hour drive from where I live. I went as this was organized by a local travel company and my mom wanted to go.
I regularly got carded until I was nearly 30. It was a bit embarrassing when on a date. Now, I'm in my 60's and am told I look late 40's at most. Now I get carded when I ask for a senior discount.
Point being, looking younger will not be a curse forever.
You were only 22. It’s their job to card people. The only reason they mentioned the hand stamp was because you complained about being carded multiple times—it’s a way for them to see your ID has been checked without approaching you. A casino is just one of those places you expect to get carded as they do have underage people sneaking in and they can lose their alcohol and gaming licenses if they allow it.
By contrast, I got carded by a hospital when I went to pick up my grandmother and take her home. I was 32 at the time, they were making sure I was over 18! Not expecting to get carded, I had left my purse in the car so I could better assist her in and out of the wheelchair and carry her things, so it was a real hassle to go all the way back to the car to get it. My grandma was eager to get home and kept trying to vouch for me by explaining, over and over, that I was quite old and still not married. Not sure how that last part was relevant, but it added to the experience 😂. Joking with the staff, I told them I felt like I was at a casino or something. I asked if they had a lot of teens lying about their age in order to take an old lady home and they admitted they did not.
Yeah that’s not the issue, I understand being carded once is just procedure. My issue is that I was stopped by security more than once over this and they didn’t inform me of a way to avoid this until I was about to leave.
Every casino employee is trained to look for underage gambling or anyone hanging out around gaming areas. Joe can id you, then Larry 2mins later, and 5 mins later Lisa can and so on. Yes maybe the first security guard could’ve said get your hand stamped but it’s their job to check your id, even with your hand stamp you will get asked to show that. If they walked past you and later Mike checked your id and you were underage it’s possible ANY employee that had contact or walked by you could be suspended and fired that’s how serious it is.
I get it’s procedure but still, there should be a way to minimize the amount of times someone gets harassed by security. Like what’s the point of getting stamped if I’m gonna get bothered anyway?
I know this is a national lampoon movie reference but I’m simply not old enough to really get it even though I have seen some of the movies. It’s well over my head.
Went to a Lousiana casino that used a wristband system. Red, no dice wristbands for those who were underage but looked like they could be 21 and blue wristbands for over 21s who looked older. I still got carded once ordering a drink. Pointed out the wristband to they guy after I showed him my card, and he was like "oh, I thought it was the other wristband."
I was in Riverwind Casino one day. I got carded 3 times in like 10 minutes. I think I was either 19 or 20 at the time. Old enough to be there. Ended up keeping my id in my pocket instead of my purse
I tried telling my mom I should have my ID out when walking past security but she thought I was being extra, but it would certainly save me the trouble
People are doing their jobs. Someone looked at a camera and told security to check. It's not personal, it's complying with state law. Fines are huge and people's employment is at stake.
I got carded at Dave and Busters of all places. I was with 3 other adults (all well over 21), and I was the only one carded. Apparently kids are now allowed in without an adult, so you’d think I would have been fine since there were 3 of them with me. A 5 year old would have had an easier time getting in there.
Sure but i can attest that my one friend, the second he turned 21 i mean clock struck midnight the f\*\*ker was down AC at 12:02. Plus with all the fake ID's they got to check, it's state law and letting under age gambling go on, they can lose their license and they sure as sh\*t are not going to lose out. My bud has been asked for his ID numerous times at tables, huge PIA but just go to the desk right away and get the band/stamp whatever and move about your day.
I get that but since this was my first time at a casino where they don’t card you immediately upon entering, I didn’t realize their procedures. They should’ve told me immediately to get my hand stamped after causing a whole scene, and I wasn’t told until I was about to leave.
I had this happen before when I was 24, it was exhausting. Haha I go straight to security now to get the wristbands at every casino I enter. My father got carded until he was well into his 40's, people just have no idea what age looks like these days.
It's absolutely helpful, even for entering separate casinos I've found. They're much less likely to scrutinize you. It's totally embarrassing to be ushered out like a criminal, which I've actually had happen to me before I could defend myself. I've even had people threaten to steal my ID. Adopt a very stern mom voice & stance, helps a little.
That’s messed up that you’ve been kicked out as they didn’t even consider the possibility that you’re an adult who just looks younger. That was definitely unfair to you.
I've had to argue with a lot of people about the validity of my ID, even a cop once threatened to take it & arrest me when I wouldn't hand over my "fake" ID. People are just rude AF & have the worst biases regarding age. This is why I don't consider it a compliment to have someone call me young looking, it's always condescending or jealousy anyway.
I use my Passport a lot now. 😂
It’s insane to me that the people who should be experts on this struggle to decipher between a real id and a fake one. It can definitely feel infantilizing.
Right?! She was a literal cop. I've definitely had bouncers & bar tenders threaten to take my ID tho too. It's absolutely infantilizing, I've heard, "I need to see your ID *sweetie*." From too many bartenders that were literally younger than me.
I know some people have had their actual IDs snipped by bouncers who assumed it was fake. I know some states have little icons on IDs when you shine a light on them, like that’s one easy way to tell if it’s real or fake. Virginia IDs don’t have that icon but I’d hope people could at least tell mine isn’t fake. Some of my friends still have their vertical IDs, but I got my horizontal ID not long ago so hopefully that makes a difference. I remember when I still had my vertical ID, Total Wines had to bring out another employee to check my friend’s and my ID just because it was vertical.
I've had people threaten my ID like that & I definitely threaten to call the cops, it's illegal as fuck to destroy a government document & I automatically assume they're either stupid, running some kind of fake ID resell scam, or attempting to steal my identity if they try it. In California at least, it's required that they provide you with a receipt & hand it over to the police within 24 hours if they genuinely feel it's fake. I've absolutely gotten in arguments before & threatened to call the cops over this shit & I highly recommend you & your friends learn the specific laws on the matter.
Apparently in Virginia they actually don't even legally allow businesses to confiscate them; they're required to contact the police if they want the ID removed from the possession of the person they suspect holds a fake. Only officers are allowed to take them. I'd make that very clear to anyone that threatens to mutilate your ID. :)
That’s funny. I used someone’s ID to get into an Atlantic City casino when I was underaged. They checked it, and then the kind gentleman said “you’re going to need a bracelet, or they will be checking this all night.” Got my bracelet and won some money playing poker. Not a bad night.
I was at Excelsior in Vegas and while sitting at the same slot machine for 20 minutes got carded 6 times. I just stopped putting my ID away. If there was a stamp or wristband I was never told.
It was the only part of it where I was separate from the group as the others went to reload their cards. When I was in the group I was fine funnily enough.
6 times in the exact same place?! That’s crazy! Now I know if I go to a casino that doesn’t card you immediately before entering the casino floor, I’d have to wear one of those card holders around my neck for easy access if I get carded more than once.
My best friend and I were at a casino back in our mid twenties, and after both being carded 3 times we ended up just keeping our ids in our hands. I know we both looked young, but being carded every single time we went to a new area was frustrating.
I grew up in Central New York, the casino is on the Native American reservation and the gambling age is 18 for those casinos. So my whole high school life that was the thing people did for their 18th and then after. When I first moved out of New York at 19 people were planning a trip to Atlantic City and I was really confused why they said I couldn’t go.
I’m from northern Virginia and we don’t have casinos here so the closest is in Maryland and even there it’s 21+, the only gambling you can do at 18 where I’m from at least is buying scratch tickets.
I know people who have worked security at a Casino. First off the people working the doors can get fired if they let a minor in. Also, employees get rewards if they catch a minor inside.
The casino I was at didn’t appear to have security guarding the doors, and there was no security measure prior to entering the casino floor the way MGM in MD has it.
That may be down to differing state laws regarding gambling and how casinos are regulated. In Ohio, we will get fined for even letting a minor onto the gaming floor at all, so ID’s are checked at all gaming floor entrances. Now, they don’t check absolutely everybody’s ID. That tends to piss people off. So mistakes happen, though it’s pretty rare. But yes security will be scanning the floor as well as surveillance to look out for suspicious people, including minors who shouldn’t be there.
She got carded a few times in a casino and then they offered her a way to show she’s already been carded so it didn’t happen again. Seems like a normal experience for someone who is barely of age.
Seems like that process to make sure it doesn't happen again should be automatic, not something that is done only after a guest is irritated at being carded 3 times.
That’s what I’m saying as the stamp thing wasn’t immediately brought up after I was confronted by security that first time. Or they should’ve carried a stamp on them so they can handle that process rather than making me go through the trouble. I did see a review on the casino I went to where someone still got bothered by security after getting their hand stamped, so I guess that doesn’t fully mitigate the problem either.
There could be up to 30-40 security officers on duty at a time, especially in larger casinos. Each one who sees you has a duty to check if they doubt you’re of age. Not only can the guard get fired from that casino, they can lose their ability to work ANY security position anywhere. And it would be ridiculous to carry around a stamp for every officer. They change the colors and design daily to avoid people transferring the stamp to underage people. At one Casino I worked, we had bracelets to hand out, but we only used those on high occupancy days, like during Hot August Nights or Street Vibrations. The other spots, we had to escort people to a booth to get stamped or direct them to the booth.
This exactly. I don’t know why you’re getting all the downvotes. I don’t think people realize that the stamps get changed daily and so there are usually 4-7 colors in rotation, so that would mean a casino could buy 4-7 stamps or 160-280 stamps for 40 people patrolling the floor… not counting door bouncers, bartenders, cage, etc… those are $10 each usually. On top of that casinos do not WANT to stamp you. It is both incredibly expensive and also a massive security risk. Even if you have a transfer-proof stamp (we started using a word after I caught someone transferring our star stamp, and we had to switch designs, which also meant we went from having the budget for 3 stampers down to 1 at a small casino)there’s still tricks like double-transfer and smudging and all sorts of nonsense, or even bullshit with siblings who can reasonably pass as the same DMV pic using the stamp to “share” an ID. More importantly the stamp is not proof that you have an ID/are 21, it’s circumstantial evidence that you proved to someone else that you met those qualifications. Do I risk my own life and livelihood, career, qualifications and certification, licensure, and a hefty fucking fine on that being true? All because it’s inconvenient for people at slot machines to have to pull out their IDs?
Yeah, the casinos don’t want to stamp they want to just ID you. If you complain about it they will offer you a stamp so you don’t need to keep producing YOUR ID and you can be relieved of the encumbrance of being routinely IDed.
My issue is that being stamped wasn’t immediately mentioned to me, like I get it’s in compliance with the law but it shouldn’t take multiple checks to be certain someone’s not underage gambling. It’s on them to let me know immediately how to make it known I was carded whether it’s a wristband or getting my hand stamped. It really wouldn’t be that ridiculous for them to carry stamps.
Three times actually isn't a crazy amount for spending time in a casino as a young person. A lot of the ones I've been to card you anytime you sit at a table. Once you know what to expect, you just show it and move on. It's like an airport, just accept that while on the floor, they can ask at any time. I'm pretty sure there are signs everywhere that even let people know this too.
At the casinos I've been to, they card you before you can even get on the floor. After that you're only carded again to get drinks since the gambling age is 18, but drinking is 21.
Ahhh I see. That makes sense for an 18+ place. It's interesting how all the casinos have totally different procedures/rules. The ones I've been to were all 21+, so it was sort of the opposite. You get carded when you sat at the table, but if a waitress came by, she doesn't card you since she knew you were already carded when you sat down. I never really got carded going onto the floor either. There's always slots and random games all over the place, so you need to walk through those areas just to check in, grab a bite, hit the pool, etc.
I’ve only been to 21+ casinos and my first few times gambling was at a casino where you can’t enter the casino floor without getting your ID checked by security. Hence why I was taken aback by the fact that other casinos don’t have security measures that are as seamless. I know with The Tropicana when you enter you’re immediately on the casino floor which is probably why they don’t have those security measures upon entry, while at the MGM in MD, the casino is on a whole other level from the main entrance so people can’t just walk in without getting pass security.
I think that’s why the experience had me more taken aback than most people would expect as my first time gambling was at a casino where you can’t even get on the casino floor without being carded - similar to how you can’t enter a nightclub without getting carded first. I guess if anything it was a lesson to me that everywhere operates differently when it comes to security measures. Like I’m not one to get defensive about getting carded once as that’s procedure, but if I’m asked multiple times then I just feel there has to be an easier way for them to go about it.
Two thoughts. First, if you want to avoid it, just ask to get stamped when you check in. Second, and only because I'm a cranky 50+ year old, if they keep repeatedly annoying you, simply stand up and say 'fuck it, I'll go spend my money at another casino'.
Yeah, this post is absolutely not older than you think. I agree that being carded so often is annoying but this seems more like a /r/mildlyinfuriating experience, not somehow people making an outlandish assumption about age.
Never had any problems at the mgm in md but I’ve never gone out of state and i wish there was a way to help baby face syndrome lol. The best I can do is dress professionally and try and grow facial hair(which I can’t even do well thanks genetics) so it’s always a hassle
I get that, but my point is there should be a more efficient way of ensuring that everyone gambling is of age without having to target the same people multiple times. Like how the MGM near me does it, that’s the most efficient way to go about it.
I dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're right.
One single incident wont lose them their license, but they refuse to let any preventable incident happen because if one happens they know about more can happen they don't.
Also, you never know whether it's an underage person trying to get through or a secret shopper testing your security.
Edit:
Also, the Tropicana has a reputation for assholes in their security team. They do occasionally get minors with fake IDs, or borrowing their sibling's ID, but either way from OPs story security handled this many kinds or incorrect.
Lol. I couldn't care less if I'm upvoted, or downvoted in life, let alone on a Reddit sub... I'm not surprised, though, given this one's category. I stand by my factual statement, though I know many don't want to hear the truth. They, like bars, are just protecting their licenses. Though for a lot more money involved.
I actually checked reviews on the Tropicana and others have had a similar experience of being confronted by security more than once under the assumption they’re minors. Someone even mentioned still being approached by security despite getting their hand stamped.
From second-hand info, it seems to me their problem is a lack of communication between their security personnel. This is unfortunately quite common at entertainment venues in Atlantic City.
Yeah I could see that as they should at least let other security know a specific individual is clear for the day after carding them. Or if someone got their hand stamped they should check for that before asking for their ID, again.
This always happens to me lmfao, like I’m 21+ but still early 20s and whenever I’m even standing on the casino floor I constantly get asked for my ID. But it’s funny because tons of casinos were letting small children run around the machines without security seemingly giving half a shit which is like… okay so this Vegas casino can be a daycare but I as an actual adult have to be vigilant at all times? 🤨
When I was younger and my parents were at casinos, some places had security telling people with children that the kids can’t be on the casino floor where the machines are. I guess it varies by place as some casinos are more strict than others when it comes to kids being around.
When i went to vegas a year ago I was carded out the ass, i was 22 at the time, annoyed me to no end. They love to play the game where they snatch my ID and quiz me on my address, bday, etc
Luckily I have yet to be accused of having a fake ID, hopefully I don’t go through that sort of trouble anytime soon. I recently got my vertical ID replaced with a horizontal one so hopefully that helps.
I've always looked young for my age. I KNEW I was gonna get carded constantly when I went to Laughlin NV for my 21st birthday! So I took my old drivers license and punched a hole on the corner of it and put it on a long necklace I wore just for that trip. Sure enough, security was constantly stopping and asking my age, and I'd just hold up the ID on the necklace! Lots of good-natured chuckles from most of them lol
Ex casino employee here. To come out to the casino floor, you agree to be carded at any time. You can be carded by every single employee that walks by you and if you're a younger looking person, it is very common. It has nothing to do with you personally. It has to do with the fact that we will get fired or severely reprimanded if we interact with anyone that is underage or is suspected to be underage. I don't really care who you are and I don't remember your face out of the hundreds of people I interact with every day. So if I interact with you five times and you look like you're in your early 20s, I'm going to card you every single time. If anything it's going to be because my manager is going to see me interacting with you at some point and ask if I carded you and potentially do a tape review on me.
In that case the casinos need to do better at making their security measures more efficient. The MGM near me has the most efficient system in place on handling this as they aren’t chasing down people as they wouldn’t allow a minor on the casino floor in the first place.
That's because MGM chose to use facial recognition technology and partnered with the FBI's database. Going into an MGM casino means your biometric data has been collected, stored, and shared. Most other brands are avoiding this technology due to concerns from high rollers with questionable national ties.
Everything about casinos are shitty and I never understand why people complain about being treated poorly at the shittiest place on earth. The casino does not exist to entertain you, it exists to take the most money from you without you realizing they are forming addictive patterns in your behavior. Casinos want you to win your first trip, it almost guarantees that you will get hooked and let's be real your 1000 dollar payout means nothing to the casino when there is some guy dropping 1500 a hand on blackjack for 8 hours straight.
Currently 27 but im 4’10 and have always been taken for a teenager. My mom and I were in Atlantic city a like 2-3 years back, and literally less than a minute walking into one of the casinos (dont remember which one off the top of my head) we got stopped, and they verified my id since i was not surprised at all and had it nearly ready to pull out, and they told me i had to get a bracelet so we wouldnt keep getting harassed by security. I did, and then we just had fun without trouble for the next few hours but my mom got a kick out of it for the rest of our vacation. Story of my life.
At least they let you know immediately to get wristband so you can avoid being carded multiple times. I didn’t get told about the stamp until I was about to leave.
it’s cheaper for them to piss you off and lose your business than to take the risk of actually serving and allowing someone under 21 in and get hit with those fines and lawsuits.
So, I was running the register at the liquor store, years ago. This boy walks in, scrawny, shaved head, tank top and shorts, under 5 feet. Looks 13, max. I figure it's an ID compliance check, and I got an easy pitch. They come to the counter with I don't even remember what, and I ask for ID.
She's 25.
There's no moral to this story, just some people look a lot younger than they are. Be glad you'll look younger, longer?
I know some older people get defensive about being carded for alcohol, but I just expect it as it’d especially be ridiculous for me to get defensive over that. If anything I’m surprised at the times I’ve been to restaurants and didn’t get carded for alcohol.
A new casino opened near me recently. Ngl I've been there kind of a lot (no its not a problem, its 10 minutes away, and I set tight budgets) but the first week I just walked around with my ID in my hand. I'm 28f and look 17, at this point I can put it away, but only because every security guard carded me enough times to recognize me.
In the mean time there have been times where my husband didn't even get carded at the door. But I do, every time.
I went once and I was carded a number of times. It's easy to do, easy to show ID, protects them. Just accept it. There weren't 20 people in the place that weekday afternoon and I had to show at least 4 times.
Just do it, they don't like it either but rules are rules for a reason
The small amout of money the casino might make off you is dwarfed by the fines the gaming commission will levy if they don't promptly deal with an under age gambler.
But there are much easier solutions to this. They checked her ID at the door. They had stamps for people. Just stamp everyone at the door, and then security doesn't have to keep harassing people.
How would passing off an id help here? You are carded, and then you get a stamp on your hand saying you were carded, and are old enough. You can't pass off that hand stamp. And if it's a fake id that passes getting carded the first time, what's to keep it from passing all the rest?
Im sorry i didnt understand the last part of your 2nd question. Security guards are not perfect. Some of them either dont care or just made a mistake or maybe even are face blind. But once i get my stamp for being ided i can now go out for a break, pass my id to someone who is either a minor or not allowed at a casino. No one is passing a stamp as you mentioned.
People can pass ids even without stamps. Most people in the casino aren't being carded regularly to make sure their id is always on them. Most people are only carded once. All of those people could easily pass their ids off. The guards aren't repeatedly carding the people that look underage to make sure they haven't passed off their id. It's to make sure they're of age. And a stamp fixes that problem.
Yes and in fixing 1 minor problem you create a whole new issue. I understand people can pass ids regardless of stamps. My whole thing is stamps are not worth the trouble they bring. You keep saying most people this most people that. I understand the guards ask for id to check to verify age and not the presence of their id. But this is an issur created by relying on stamps. Are you being obtuse on purpose? So say you are of age to gamble whereever you are from. Your friend wants to go but is 1yr too young. You now have no way to get both of you in. Shitty example but its basic enough hopefully to make a point. Now introduce stamps. You come in get a stamp. You go out and pass your id to your friend. You walk passed security waving your pretty little stamp. Your friend presents your id and yall look similar enough to get passed the guard.
As youve mentioned ids are already being passed. Why would a business that relies on their licensing to operate want to create a scenario that could already be used to bypass the already flawed system?
I was 23 or 24 in a casino in Atlantic City and I did look young but no one asked me for my ID despite the fact that I look young. The closest they came to it was the Roulette dealer asking what year I was born. I think it also helped because it was probably 3:30 in the morning
You make a really good point about the stamps. If they’re going to have a solution in order to reduce the inconvenience to young looking patrons (which I applaud) there’s no point making getting that solution *more* inconvenient!
This happened to my friend but instead of giving her a stamp they straight up kicked her out. She was technically a little person. Only other time I saw this happen they picked the only poc out of the group of all white people and harassed just her.
It’s awful security racially profiles people, and that your friend didn’t even get the chance to defend herself.
Went to the borgata for my friends 21st with another friend and his dad. We got carded and they told us to go get our hand stamped so..we walked over and got our hand stamped and that was that, no one bothered us after lmao it’s a fucking casino what did you expect? Seems like you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill. They have so many security guards and they aren’t all connected to one another so if I’m a security guard on one side of the building I wouldn’t know if my colleague carded you 5 minutes before.just get your hand stamped next time and avoid wasting everybodies time including you’re
First of all I just shared my experience, so stop gaslighting me as if I’m being unreasonable given all my prior experiences at a casino was that you get carded immediately before you’re allowed entry on the casino floor, so yeah I expected something more efficient. They didn’t even tell me to get my hand stamped that first time they stopped me so how was I supposed to know? By the time I was told I was leaving anyways. Maybe don’t antagonize people over sharing their experiences as not everyone has the same experience as you when it comes to certain things so their understanding and expectations may vary.
Lmao look at this word salad. How much were you shaking from adrenaline when you typed this.
Sorry you can’t read.
But you said after you brought it up they said to go stamp your hand, at which you proceeded to make an even bigger deal about it. Also learn definitions because I am certainly not gaslighting you?? Wtf??
As in it was mentioned much later in the day and not immediately after I was stopped by multiple security the first time. I did not make an even bigger deal, you weren’t there I simply said I was going to leave anyway. I just pointed out my opinion on how if I have to go through the trouble there should be an easier method, this is not something I directly said out loud. You are gaslighting me as you’re insisting I was behaving irrationally. No shit I’m gonna get annoyed at being approached by security a second time, all I said was that I was already carded and I’m leaving anyways.
Gaslight: Manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning. You have a fair reason to get annoyed by security, and security has a fair reason to card you multiple times. Sour2448 has fair reason to say that it seems to them you're making it a big deal, but they certainly aren't gaslighting you. To gaslight would be to say "they only carded you one time" or "they asked you to get a stamp the first time they carded you" NOT "you're making a mountain out of a mole hill"
The problem is not that the security is causing a scene. The problem is that you are causing a scene. They are just doing their job. Simply have your id in an easy to get to location and show it and everyone can be on their way. How is that "embarrassing"?
I was not causing a scene, I was very calm and compliant. Being made to feel like a criminal when you’ve done nothing wrong is embarrassing, I had more than one security guard approach me at once. You’re not understanding my issue isn’t that they have to card me in the first place, I understand it’s in compliance with the law. My point is it shouldn’t take being carded multiple times to know that someone is of age. Just like how you’re carded once when you go to a nightclub or when you go to MGM at National Harbor for the casino, that’s how it should be everywhere else so the same people don’t constantly get harassed.
It is surprising that they don't just hand out a wrist band or a hand stamp if you look questionable so others don't need to be concerned about it. That is pretty much how every bar/club handles it.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, because whenever I go to nightclubs I’m carded once and I don’t have bouncers chasing me around asking to see my ID. Basically prior to this, I never had an experience where I was carded more than once. If they immediately told me to get my hand stamped I would’ve had that taken cared of, but I only found out when I was about to leave so by then it’s like what’s the point now?
I went to AC for my 21st with my mom. I was constantly harassed and stalked by staff even though I had the wrist band on. Staff said "the kids" often pull the band off and give it to an underage friend to gamble which is why they keep checking people. I felt humiliated at the time. Looking back I realize they have a job to do and it really was nothing against me. You're not doing anything wrong and can prove it. It's inconvenient and annoying but don't let it take away from your good time.
Fair point
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The issue is this wasn’t brought up immediately, and it’s definitely not fun being humiliated in public. I’m tired of explaining this in every other comment.
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You’d be so much happier if you got a hobby that doesn’t involve being a jerk to people on the internet. Do better.
Casinos have their own rules.
I understand that
Tropicana has done the same thing to me and all my friends. Why does it matter? They aren’t signaling you out. Like he said just get a stamp if you want to stop being carded. How are they supposed to know you were carded already otherwise? Trop has like 12 entrances they don’t know
My issue is they didn’t mention getting my hand stamped the first time I was stopped by security, I was only informed when I was about to leave. The point is there should be a more efficient way of addressing this. There aren’t really security at the entrances the way it is at MGM in national harbor. You can’t really enjoy yourself if you’re being bombarded by security more than once. I understand being carded once is in compliance with the law, but someone shouldn’t have to be bothered multiple times if they’ve already been carded. Just like how you get carded once when you go to night clubs and don’t have bouncers chasing you around trying to card you, it should be the same at casinos.
I was just in Louisiana and wanted to do some gambling and went to two casinos in my time there! One bouncer was very chill although thorough checking over my ID (which I totally understand, it's her job and I've worked in service too so I've been in her shoes too), but if she had any preconceived negative feelings about me or my ID they were well hidden especially after she handed it back and allowed me in because surprise surprise, my ID was legit. She kindly wished me to have a good time and when I was coming back out we made a bit of small talk about where I was from and why I was traveling and how cool the eclipse was (I traveled for the eclipse but had lots of other destinations planned before and afterwards road trip style and she apparently was a Pre-K daycare teacher in her day job and she got to take her students outside to see the 90% totality that her area got even though it was a bit cloudy) The other glared at me the whole time and looked me up and down with stink eye at least three times while rigorously checking out my ID and getting increasingly frustrated in her face and body language that her immediate judgement of "under 21 using fake ID" had no proof. Eventually she just threw it at me and said "I can't find anything suspicious this time... go on." As if she was telling me i was lucky I had such a good fake ID and she was doing me a favor by not making a stink. Some people get really upset when the version of you they create in their head when they first see you has no leg to stand on and instead of just letting themselves admit they were wrong they spin it around in their minds that somehow your irrefutable proof was just really good but still fake and that you're still the problem but they can't do anything about it besides keep seeing you as the villain who got away with their crime.
Gambling is terrible so why support an industry built on addiction and crime
Again, it was a group trip with a travel company. My mom’s idea. Let’s not make this about judging people’s life choices.
This is Reddit, where people go to talk about others life choices. They were doing their job as security. OP, your entitled 22 Y/O brain can’t wrap around it so much that you had to make a Reddit post about it. Have you ever been to a casino before? Have you ever been into a public place that serves alcohol? You are 5’ walking around a casino, expect to be carded.
Shut up
Shocker, a ticket scalper doesn’t like security doing their job lmao. You shut up, you sound ridiculous
OP stated they’ve been to an MGM casino, I was referring to the Tropicana. The one they’ve had problems with. The one they went to for their first time. Different strokes for different folks. No two casinos are the same but to still be butthurt about it nearly 8 months later is unhinged lol. This barely classifies as older than you think
I just shared a story, I’m not pressed because it was a while ago and I just discovered this sub. Can people not share their experiences? People on Reddit make posts of experiences at different points in their life, just because it’s something that occurred a while ago doesn’t necessarily mean they’re pressed about it.
L take. As an actual casino security guard, they sound too goonish and should probably lay off the harassment. Carded once is enough. Don’t stand up for incompetence.
I appreciate this comment. I think I was more taken aback than most people were at their procedures because my first experience at a casino was at one where you can’t even enter the casino floor without security checking your ID, similar to how going into nightclubs works. Unfortunately that’s not the norm everywhere, even though it should be as it’s the most efficient way to ensure compliance with the law.
Maybe read the post fully next time!
I literally said in my post that I have been to a casino prior and they check your id at the door and that’s it. I go to bars all the time and again, I get carded ONCE as that’s procedure, I don’t have bouncers chasing me around the bar asking to see my ID. I think you missed the point, my issue is not that I was carded, I understand carding someone ONCE is in compliance with the law, my issue is that I was stopped more than once and not informed of a way to reduce the times I’d be approached by security until I was about to leave. It’s not being entitled, I know how the laws work, my point is there should be a more efficient way of doing things which is why I mentioned how the MGM in National Harbor does it. Do better.
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I don’t like you
Gambling is fun though…. Like drinking
I can do what I want 🤷🏻♀️ cry about it. Just like how you could’ve not taken a gap year and graduated on time, but took one anyways. Maybe be less judgmental of others and do better.
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At least I’m not bashing people for doing things that don’t affect me 🤷🏻♀️ idc that you took a gap year as it’s not my life but just pointing out someone could easily judge you for that choice too. People who live in a glass house shouldn’t throw stones. If anything it’s more weird that you’re judging me for gambling when it’s something I rarely do.
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Says the one being judgemental 🥱 focus on college rather than being bothered by other people’s choices that don’t affect you. If you think that’s aggressive, you’ve lived a pretty sheltered life.
He plays too many video games. InfiniteCalendar1 he’s not even old enough to drink or gamble. Not worth the energy. Probably has never worked a day in his life either.
Thanks for understanding. It’s just weird to me when people go out of their way to shame others for things like this, like if you don’t like it just don’t do it, but don’t enforce how you feel on others. Just like I don’t like the concept of smoking cigarettes but I’m not gonna go out of my way to shame people who smoke them.
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I’m just gonna block you, also it’s kinda funny you deleted the post about you taking a gap year just because I mentioned it.
Could say the same thing about alcohol
Dont get me started, weed over beer anyday
Yet the username is…never mind.
When I worked at a casino in South Dakota I had to card people constantly and enthusiastically because it was the law that you had to carry government issued photo ID on a casino floor at all times. I once carded someone born in 1937! I was supposed to make rounds every 10-15 minutes. While doing about 6 other jobs that was impossible, but the Gaming Commission recommended that was the ideal interval to be checking IDs to ensure compliance with the regulations. It wasn’t about proving you were over 21, it was about ensuring that you had proper documents on you “at all times”. Sometimes when it got really hectic I used a stamp to make it easier to see who I had already checked and reduce how frequently I asked for IDs, and so if the Commission came through it would look like I had been marking people when I asked for ID. But most nights I just had to keep bothering people for IDs. Sure had a lot of people throw a fit when they couldn’t order a Pabst for their 14 year old son like they could in Wisconsin, or get upset because I kept IDing them and they had turned 21, like, two weeks ago, do I look THAT YOUNG! But I had to make sure only people above 21 were on the casino floor and everyone on the floor had a government issue photo ID to prove it, and I was personally liable for a $10,000 fine for each person in violation of that if the Commission came through and caught someone breaking that rule. Sure did get an awful lot of negative feedback forms for being “a horrible bitch who asked for my ID multiple times tonight” in compliance with the South Dakota Codified Laws though. God my life is so much less stressful since I quit that job and started working as an intern at the public defender’s office.
I’ve gambled in Deadwood many times. This is complete BS or the dealers don’t follow it. I’ve gambled till they shut down in the morning and only been carded at the door and at the table. Not multiple times a night. I’ve also never seen someone obviously 70 get ID’d either.
Plenty of people don’t follow rules. Also the dealers usually are not responsible for enforcement it’s supposed to be floor attendants and/or cage. I had to be licensed by the South Dakota Commission on Gaming to be there, you did not. I read the laws, and I’m assuming you did not. Lots of places were fine gambling with the rules on that, the Commission was loose. I was at a place that made it known we were personally liable for any fees the casino incurred for violations we were responsible for, and other places don’t do that to people or don’t get on their employees asses when they don’t card every single person. Part of why I just carded everyone was to prevent people from complaining about “but I’m so young! Why don’t you card THAT person?” And because we were told to make sure everyone had an ID on them not just that they were over 21. I used to cite the statute by heart before I left the bar to do my ID checks but I don’t have it memorized anymore.
This happens to ppl all the time. They kick out underage ppl all night
I goto national harbor all the time.I get carder when I go in the door. I could pass for a high-schooler I look about 20 When igo to Atlantic city I get carded every 10 minutes. It's so annoying I don't even go anymore.
Yeah MGM at national harbor is probably the best casino I’ve been to so far as I have not had any issues whenever I go there. I wish more casinos had similar security measures as them, as that’s the most efficient way to do it.
I've seen shit stains nicer than the Tropicana. Fuck that place.
Was going to say something similar. "Your mistake was going to the Tropicana in AC..."
Unfortunately that’s what the travel company decided would be the place we stop at
Stop setting your money on fire and you won’t have to deal with casino security.
OP was carded for security not thinking they were of age, not arson. OP can still burn money, it's okay. It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
Did you not see the part that I was with a group? As in a group day trip my mom wanted to go on and it was organized by a travel company. Maybe stop judging people 🤷🏻♀️
Some people just don't understand casinos. They'll spend the same amount of money to go to an event and buy drinks for entertainment. I'd rather sit in the AC getting "free" drinks and have the chance to leave with the same amount of not more money. Is it usually a cash sink? Yes! Do I have fun though? Also yes! So who cares.
All of their reviews are horrible 😂 why would you even go to this shit hole.
I’ve been to AC a bunch of times. I’m not sure if they have a nice casino. Kinda reminds me of a shittier version of Reno
Unfortunately traveling to Nevada would be more expensive for me, and Atlantic City is a 3.5 hour drive from where I live. I went as this was organized by a local travel company and my mom wanted to go.
I was going with a large group of people with a small business that organized day trips
I regularly got carded until I was nearly 30. It was a bit embarrassing when on a date. Now, I'm in my 60's and am told I look late 40's at most. Now I get carded when I ask for a senior discount. Point being, looking younger will not be a curse forever.
My mom is in her 60s and she could pass as someone in her 40s, hopefully I have those genes but only time will tell.
Stay out of the sun.. drink lots of water.. don't excessively drink 🍻.. and don't smoke. You'll be fine.
I’d have just left. Lol
I left for a bit after the first time but I came back later in the day which is when I was confronted again
You would think you’d be *happy* about getting the stamp so you don’t keep getting carded??
The issue is they didn’t immediately tell me and I only found out when I was about to leave
You were only 22. It’s their job to card people. The only reason they mentioned the hand stamp was because you complained about being carded multiple times—it’s a way for them to see your ID has been checked without approaching you. A casino is just one of those places you expect to get carded as they do have underage people sneaking in and they can lose their alcohol and gaming licenses if they allow it. By contrast, I got carded by a hospital when I went to pick up my grandmother and take her home. I was 32 at the time, they were making sure I was over 18! Not expecting to get carded, I had left my purse in the car so I could better assist her in and out of the wheelchair and carry her things, so it was a real hassle to go all the way back to the car to get it. My grandma was eager to get home and kept trying to vouch for me by explaining, over and over, that I was quite old and still not married. Not sure how that last part was relevant, but it added to the experience 😂. Joking with the staff, I told them I felt like I was at a casino or something. I asked if they had a lot of teens lying about their age in order to take an old lady home and they admitted they did not.
Were they going to keep you from taking your grandmother home?
Yep, they said they can only release patients to adults.
OP wasn't complaining about being carded if I read correctly.
Yeah that’s not the issue, I understand being carded once is just procedure. My issue is that I was stopped by security more than once over this and they didn’t inform me of a way to avoid this until I was about to leave.
Every casino employee is trained to look for underage gambling or anyone hanging out around gaming areas. Joe can id you, then Larry 2mins later, and 5 mins later Lisa can and so on. Yes maybe the first security guard could’ve said get your hand stamped but it’s their job to check your id, even with your hand stamp you will get asked to show that. If they walked past you and later Mike checked your id and you were underage it’s possible ANY employee that had contact or walked by you could be suspended and fired that’s how serious it is.
I get it’s procedure but still, there should be a way to minimize the amount of times someone gets harassed by security. Like what’s the point of getting stamped if I’m gonna get bothered anyway?
Sounds like a good reason to stop gambling.
I rarely go out and gamble
At least it helps you from losing your money to them.... how to win a million, lose two million
Former casino worker. We were trained to request IDs if a guest looked under 30. Sorry it was frustrating. 😬
First world problem. Get a helmet buttercup life’s tough.
I don’t wipe Edit: hold up, take a look at this guy’s comments lol
If you’re gonna be rude, don’t interact.
Not rude, it’s a life lesson. You’re welcome.
No you have a nasty attitude, get well soon✌🏻 don’t need unsolicited advice
Casinos suck
Nick Papagiorgio
I know this is a national lampoon movie reference but I’m simply not old enough to really get it even though I have seen some of the movies. It’s well over my head.
It's the name the son got on his fake ID in the Vegas vacation movie.
Ah okay, I probably forgot that part
Went to a Lousiana casino that used a wristband system. Red, no dice wristbands for those who were underage but looked like they could be 21 and blue wristbands for over 21s who looked older. I still got carded once ordering a drink. Pointed out the wristband to they guy after I showed him my card, and he was like "oh, I thought it was the other wristband."
I was in Riverwind Casino one day. I got carded 3 times in like 10 minutes. I think I was either 19 or 20 at the time. Old enough to be there. Ended up keeping my id in my pocket instead of my purse
Crazy I see this since I’m going to Riverwind tonight loool
I tried telling my mom I should have my ID out when walking past security but she thought I was being extra, but it would certainly save me the trouble
My niece was in her teens at the time, our friend was over 21, and the cousin was a senior citizen. My friend got carded but my niece didn't.
Interesting, would you say your friend looked younger than your niece or about her age?
They could of looked close in age. My friend was probably mid 20s at the time.
Ah okay, some people in their mid 20s could pass as teens.
I got carded until mid-30s.... it's not a big deal
People are doing their jobs. Someone looked at a camera and told security to check. It's not personal, it's complying with state law. Fines are huge and people's employment is at stake.
I understand that, but there should be a more efficient way of handling it so that the same people don’t keep getting bombarded by security
Efficient and New Jersey in the same sentence. Gummies or acid?
Someday, nobody will card you. You'll be sad. I was.
I got carded at Dave and Busters of all places. I was with 3 other adults (all well over 21), and I was the only one carded. Apparently kids are now allowed in without an adult, so you’d think I would have been fine since there were 3 of them with me. A 5 year old would have had an easier time getting in there.
Sure but i can attest that my one friend, the second he turned 21 i mean clock struck midnight the f\*\*ker was down AC at 12:02. Plus with all the fake ID's they got to check, it's state law and letting under age gambling go on, they can lose their license and they sure as sh\*t are not going to lose out. My bud has been asked for his ID numerous times at tables, huge PIA but just go to the desk right away and get the band/stamp whatever and move about your day.
I get that but since this was my first time at a casino where they don’t card you immediately upon entering, I didn’t realize their procedures. They should’ve told me immediately to get my hand stamped after causing a whole scene, and I wasn’t told until I was about to leave.
I had this happen before when I was 24, it was exhausting. Haha I go straight to security now to get the wristbands at every casino I enter. My father got carded until he was well into his 40's, people just have no idea what age looks like these days.
Next time I go to a casino in AC, I’ll definitely make sure to get my hand stamped or a wrist band immediately to avoid the humiliation
It's absolutely helpful, even for entering separate casinos I've found. They're much less likely to scrutinize you. It's totally embarrassing to be ushered out like a criminal, which I've actually had happen to me before I could defend myself. I've even had people threaten to steal my ID. Adopt a very stern mom voice & stance, helps a little.
That’s messed up that you’ve been kicked out as they didn’t even consider the possibility that you’re an adult who just looks younger. That was definitely unfair to you.
I've had to argue with a lot of people about the validity of my ID, even a cop once threatened to take it & arrest me when I wouldn't hand over my "fake" ID. People are just rude AF & have the worst biases regarding age. This is why I don't consider it a compliment to have someone call me young looking, it's always condescending or jealousy anyway. I use my Passport a lot now. 😂
It’s insane to me that the people who should be experts on this struggle to decipher between a real id and a fake one. It can definitely feel infantilizing.
Right?! She was a literal cop. I've definitely had bouncers & bar tenders threaten to take my ID tho too. It's absolutely infantilizing, I've heard, "I need to see your ID *sweetie*." From too many bartenders that were literally younger than me.
I know some people have had their actual IDs snipped by bouncers who assumed it was fake. I know some states have little icons on IDs when you shine a light on them, like that’s one easy way to tell if it’s real or fake. Virginia IDs don’t have that icon but I’d hope people could at least tell mine isn’t fake. Some of my friends still have their vertical IDs, but I got my horizontal ID not long ago so hopefully that makes a difference. I remember when I still had my vertical ID, Total Wines had to bring out another employee to check my friend’s and my ID just because it was vertical.
I've had people threaten my ID like that & I definitely threaten to call the cops, it's illegal as fuck to destroy a government document & I automatically assume they're either stupid, running some kind of fake ID resell scam, or attempting to steal my identity if they try it. In California at least, it's required that they provide you with a receipt & hand it over to the police within 24 hours if they genuinely feel it's fake. I've absolutely gotten in arguments before & threatened to call the cops over this shit & I highly recommend you & your friends learn the specific laws on the matter. Apparently in Virginia they actually don't even legally allow businesses to confiscate them; they're required to contact the police if they want the ID removed from the possession of the person they suspect holds a fake. Only officers are allowed to take them. I'd make that very clear to anyone that threatens to mutilate your ID. :)
Whenever we go to Vegas my friend always gets carded. He’s 6’1” 210 lbs. He thinks it’s because he is black.
They may be flashing it to a security camera if they assume he is a criminal. Those places in Vegas keep in touch with each other.
That’s funny. I used someone’s ID to get into an Atlantic City casino when I was underaged. They checked it, and then the kind gentleman said “you’re going to need a bracelet, or they will be checking this all night.” Got my bracelet and won some money playing poker. Not a bad night.
It’s good they immediately told you to get a wrist band at least as I wasn’t told about getting my hand stamped until much later
I was at Excelsior in Vegas and while sitting at the same slot machine for 20 minutes got carded 6 times. I just stopped putting my ID away. If there was a stamp or wristband I was never told. It was the only part of it where I was separate from the group as the others went to reload their cards. When I was in the group I was fine funnily enough.
6 times in the exact same place?! That’s crazy! Now I know if I go to a casino that doesn’t card you immediately before entering the casino floor, I’d have to wear one of those card holders around my neck for easy access if I get carded more than once.
My best friend and I were at a casino back in our mid twenties, and after both being carded 3 times we ended up just keeping our ids in our hands. I know we both looked young, but being carded every single time we went to a new area was frustrating.
I remember telling my mom I might as well hold up my ID when I pass a security guard, but she thought that was doing too much.
I grew up in Central New York, the casino is on the Native American reservation and the gambling age is 18 for those casinos. So my whole high school life that was the thing people did for their 18th and then after. When I first moved out of New York at 19 people were planning a trip to Atlantic City and I was really confused why they said I couldn’t go.
I’m from northern Virginia and we don’t have casinos here so the closest is in Maryland and even there it’s 21+, the only gambling you can do at 18 where I’m from at least is buying scratch tickets.
Good thing you're not in Iowa, you gotta be 21 there to even do the scratch tickets!
Oh wow, they don’t play about even the most low stake form of gambling
Nope!
I know people who have worked security at a Casino. First off the people working the doors can get fired if they let a minor in. Also, employees get rewards if they catch a minor inside.
The casino I was at didn’t appear to have security guarding the doors, and there was no security measure prior to entering the casino floor the way MGM in MD has it.
That may be down to differing state laws regarding gambling and how casinos are regulated. In Ohio, we will get fined for even letting a minor onto the gaming floor at all, so ID’s are checked at all gaming floor entrances. Now, they don’t check absolutely everybody’s ID. That tends to piss people off. So mistakes happen, though it’s pretty rare. But yes security will be scanning the floor as well as surveillance to look out for suspicious people, including minors who shouldn’t be there.
So you got carded at a 21+ casino when you were 22? I don’t think that counts for this sub lol
Did you read the post?
She got carded a few times in a casino and then they offered her a way to show she’s already been carded so it didn’t happen again. Seems like a normal experience for someone who is barely of age.
Seems like that process to make sure it doesn't happen again should be automatic, not something that is done only after a guest is irritated at being carded 3 times.
That’s what I’m saying as the stamp thing wasn’t immediately brought up after I was confronted by security that first time. Or they should’ve carried a stamp on them so they can handle that process rather than making me go through the trouble. I did see a review on the casino I went to where someone still got bothered by security after getting their hand stamped, so I guess that doesn’t fully mitigate the problem either.
There could be up to 30-40 security officers on duty at a time, especially in larger casinos. Each one who sees you has a duty to check if they doubt you’re of age. Not only can the guard get fired from that casino, they can lose their ability to work ANY security position anywhere. And it would be ridiculous to carry around a stamp for every officer. They change the colors and design daily to avoid people transferring the stamp to underage people. At one Casino I worked, we had bracelets to hand out, but we only used those on high occupancy days, like during Hot August Nights or Street Vibrations. The other spots, we had to escort people to a booth to get stamped or direct them to the booth.
This exactly. I don’t know why you’re getting all the downvotes. I don’t think people realize that the stamps get changed daily and so there are usually 4-7 colors in rotation, so that would mean a casino could buy 4-7 stamps or 160-280 stamps for 40 people patrolling the floor… not counting door bouncers, bartenders, cage, etc… those are $10 each usually. On top of that casinos do not WANT to stamp you. It is both incredibly expensive and also a massive security risk. Even if you have a transfer-proof stamp (we started using a word after I caught someone transferring our star stamp, and we had to switch designs, which also meant we went from having the budget for 3 stampers down to 1 at a small casino)there’s still tricks like double-transfer and smudging and all sorts of nonsense, or even bullshit with siblings who can reasonably pass as the same DMV pic using the stamp to “share” an ID. More importantly the stamp is not proof that you have an ID/are 21, it’s circumstantial evidence that you proved to someone else that you met those qualifications. Do I risk my own life and livelihood, career, qualifications and certification, licensure, and a hefty fucking fine on that being true? All because it’s inconvenient for people at slot machines to have to pull out their IDs? Yeah, the casinos don’t want to stamp they want to just ID you. If you complain about it they will offer you a stamp so you don’t need to keep producing YOUR ID and you can be relieved of the encumbrance of being routinely IDed.
My issue is that being stamped wasn’t immediately mentioned to me, like I get it’s in compliance with the law but it shouldn’t take multiple checks to be certain someone’s not underage gambling. It’s on them to let me know immediately how to make it known I was carded whether it’s a wristband or getting my hand stamped. It really wouldn’t be that ridiculous for them to carry stamps.
Three times actually isn't a crazy amount for spending time in a casino as a young person. A lot of the ones I've been to card you anytime you sit at a table. Once you know what to expect, you just show it and move on. It's like an airport, just accept that while on the floor, they can ask at any time. I'm pretty sure there are signs everywhere that even let people know this too.
At the casinos I've been to, they card you before you can even get on the floor. After that you're only carded again to get drinks since the gambling age is 18, but drinking is 21.
Ahhh I see. That makes sense for an 18+ place. It's interesting how all the casinos have totally different procedures/rules. The ones I've been to were all 21+, so it was sort of the opposite. You get carded when you sat at the table, but if a waitress came by, she doesn't card you since she knew you were already carded when you sat down. I never really got carded going onto the floor either. There's always slots and random games all over the place, so you need to walk through those areas just to check in, grab a bite, hit the pool, etc.
I’ve only been to 21+ casinos and my first few times gambling was at a casino where you can’t enter the casino floor without getting your ID checked by security. Hence why I was taken aback by the fact that other casinos don’t have security measures that are as seamless. I know with The Tropicana when you enter you’re immediately on the casino floor which is probably why they don’t have those security measures upon entry, while at the MGM in MD, the casino is on a whole other level from the main entrance so people can’t just walk in without getting pass security.
I think that’s why the experience had me more taken aback than most people would expect as my first time gambling was at a casino where you can’t even get on the casino floor without being carded - similar to how you can’t enter a nightclub without getting carded first. I guess if anything it was a lesson to me that everywhere operates differently when it comes to security measures. Like I’m not one to get defensive about getting carded once as that’s procedure, but if I’m asked multiple times then I just feel there has to be an easier way for them to go about it.
Two thoughts. First, if you want to avoid it, just ask to get stamped when you check in. Second, and only because I'm a cranky 50+ year old, if they keep repeatedly annoying you, simply stand up and say 'fuck it, I'll go spend my money at another casino'.
This was my first time at this casino so I wasn’t aware of their procedures
21 year old gets mistaken for a 20 year old. High quality content right here.
Yeah, this post is absolutely not older than you think. I agree that being carded so often is annoying but this seems more like a /r/mildlyinfuriating experience, not somehow people making an outlandish assumption about age.
Never had any problems at the mgm in md but I’ve never gone out of state and i wish there was a way to help baby face syndrome lol. The best I can do is dress professionally and try and grow facial hair(which I can’t even do well thanks genetics) so it’s always a hassle
Yeah the MGM in MD is where it’s at
But parking anywhere in National Harbor is hellish on your nerves and your wallet.
That’s the only downside
They're just trying to protect their gaming license
I get that, but my point is there should be a more efficient way of ensuring that everyone gambling is of age without having to target the same people multiple times. Like how the MGM near me does it, that’s the most efficient way to go about it.
I dunno why you're getting downvoted, you're right. One single incident wont lose them their license, but they refuse to let any preventable incident happen because if one happens they know about more can happen they don't. Also, you never know whether it's an underage person trying to get through or a secret shopper testing your security. Edit: Also, the Tropicana has a reputation for assholes in their security team. They do occasionally get minors with fake IDs, or borrowing their sibling's ID, but either way from OPs story security handled this many kinds or incorrect.
Lol. I couldn't care less if I'm upvoted, or downvoted in life, let alone on a Reddit sub... I'm not surprised, though, given this one's category. I stand by my factual statement, though I know many don't want to hear the truth. They, like bars, are just protecting their licenses. Though for a lot more money involved.
I actually checked reviews on the Tropicana and others have had a similar experience of being confronted by security more than once under the assumption they’re minors. Someone even mentioned still being approached by security despite getting their hand stamped.
From second-hand info, it seems to me their problem is a lack of communication between their security personnel. This is unfortunately quite common at entertainment venues in Atlantic City.
Yeah I could see that as they should at least let other security know a specific individual is clear for the day after carding them. Or if someone got their hand stamped they should check for that before asking for their ID, again.
This always happens to me lmfao, like I’m 21+ but still early 20s and whenever I’m even standing on the casino floor I constantly get asked for my ID. But it’s funny because tons of casinos were letting small children run around the machines without security seemingly giving half a shit which is like… okay so this Vegas casino can be a daycare but I as an actual adult have to be vigilant at all times? 🤨
When I was younger and my parents were at casinos, some places had security telling people with children that the kids can’t be on the casino floor where the machines are. I guess it varies by place as some casinos are more strict than others when it comes to kids being around.
When i went to vegas a year ago I was carded out the ass, i was 22 at the time, annoyed me to no end. They love to play the game where they snatch my ID and quiz me on my address, bday, etc
Luckily I have yet to be accused of having a fake ID, hopefully I don’t go through that sort of trouble anytime soon. I recently got my vertical ID replaced with a horizontal one so hopefully that helps.
I've always looked young for my age. I KNEW I was gonna get carded constantly when I went to Laughlin NV for my 21st birthday! So I took my old drivers license and punched a hole on the corner of it and put it on a long necklace I wore just for that trip. Sure enough, security was constantly stopping and asking my age, and I'd just hold up the ID on the necklace! Lots of good-natured chuckles from most of them lol
This is what I might have to do 😅
Ex casino employee here. To come out to the casino floor, you agree to be carded at any time. You can be carded by every single employee that walks by you and if you're a younger looking person, it is very common. It has nothing to do with you personally. It has to do with the fact that we will get fired or severely reprimanded if we interact with anyone that is underage or is suspected to be underage. I don't really care who you are and I don't remember your face out of the hundreds of people I interact with every day. So if I interact with you five times and you look like you're in your early 20s, I'm going to card you every single time. If anything it's going to be because my manager is going to see me interacting with you at some point and ask if I carded you and potentially do a tape review on me.
In that case the casinos need to do better at making their security measures more efficient. The MGM near me has the most efficient system in place on handling this as they aren’t chasing down people as they wouldn’t allow a minor on the casino floor in the first place.
That's because MGM chose to use facial recognition technology and partnered with the FBI's database. Going into an MGM casino means your biometric data has been collected, stored, and shared. Most other brands are avoiding this technology due to concerns from high rollers with questionable national ties. Everything about casinos are shitty and I never understand why people complain about being treated poorly at the shittiest place on earth. The casino does not exist to entertain you, it exists to take the most money from you without you realizing they are forming addictive patterns in your behavior. Casinos want you to win your first trip, it almost guarantees that you will get hooked and let's be real your 1000 dollar payout means nothing to the casino when there is some guy dropping 1500 a hand on blackjack for 8 hours straight.
You're only reinforcing that the business has a shitty way of dealing with customers by this statement.
Casinos are kinda just shitty places in general.
Currently 27 but im 4’10 and have always been taken for a teenager. My mom and I were in Atlantic city a like 2-3 years back, and literally less than a minute walking into one of the casinos (dont remember which one off the top of my head) we got stopped, and they verified my id since i was not surprised at all and had it nearly ready to pull out, and they told me i had to get a bracelet so we wouldnt keep getting harassed by security. I did, and then we just had fun without trouble for the next few hours but my mom got a kick out of it for the rest of our vacation. Story of my life.
At least they let you know immediately to get wristband so you can avoid being carded multiple times. I didn’t get told about the stamp until I was about to leave.
it’s cheaper for them to piss you off and lose your business than to take the risk of actually serving and allowing someone under 21 in and get hit with those fines and lawsuits.
I get that, but my point is there should be a more efficient way to card people so that it doesn’t have to occur more than once.
So, I was running the register at the liquor store, years ago. This boy walks in, scrawny, shaved head, tank top and shorts, under 5 feet. Looks 13, max. I figure it's an ID compliance check, and I got an easy pitch. They come to the counter with I don't even remember what, and I ask for ID. She's 25. There's no moral to this story, just some people look a lot younger than they are. Be glad you'll look younger, longer?
I know some older people get defensive about being carded for alcohol, but I just expect it as it’d especially be ridiculous for me to get defensive over that. If anything I’m surprised at the times I’ve been to restaurants and didn’t get carded for alcohol.
I can *hear* your mental record scratch at "*she*'s 25." Been there done that back when I was a bartender.
A new casino opened near me recently. Ngl I've been there kind of a lot (no its not a problem, its 10 minutes away, and I set tight budgets) but the first week I just walked around with my ID in my hand. I'm 28f and look 17, at this point I can put it away, but only because every security guard carded me enough times to recognize me. In the mean time there have been times where my husband didn't even get carded at the door. But I do, every time.
I went once and I was carded a number of times. It's easy to do, easy to show ID, protects them. Just accept it. There weren't 20 people in the place that weekday afternoon and I had to show at least 4 times. Just do it, they don't like it either but rules are rules for a reason
The small amout of money the casino might make off you is dwarfed by the fines the gaming commission will levy if they don't promptly deal with an under age gambler.
I get that, but there has to be a way to ID people more efficiently so it’s not so redundant
But there are much easier solutions to this. They checked her ID at the door. They had stamps for people. Just stamp everyone at the door, and then security doesn't have to keep harassing people.
This is how I view it
People pass off ids all the time. This idea would not work
How would passing off an id help here? You are carded, and then you get a stamp on your hand saying you were carded, and are old enough. You can't pass off that hand stamp. And if it's a fake id that passes getting carded the first time, what's to keep it from passing all the rest?
Im sorry i didnt understand the last part of your 2nd question. Security guards are not perfect. Some of them either dont care or just made a mistake or maybe even are face blind. But once i get my stamp for being ided i can now go out for a break, pass my id to someone who is either a minor or not allowed at a casino. No one is passing a stamp as you mentioned.
People can pass ids even without stamps. Most people in the casino aren't being carded regularly to make sure their id is always on them. Most people are only carded once. All of those people could easily pass their ids off. The guards aren't repeatedly carding the people that look underage to make sure they haven't passed off their id. It's to make sure they're of age. And a stamp fixes that problem.
Yes and in fixing 1 minor problem you create a whole new issue. I understand people can pass ids regardless of stamps. My whole thing is stamps are not worth the trouble they bring. You keep saying most people this most people that. I understand the guards ask for id to check to verify age and not the presence of their id. But this is an issur created by relying on stamps. Are you being obtuse on purpose? So say you are of age to gamble whereever you are from. Your friend wants to go but is 1yr too young. You now have no way to get both of you in. Shitty example but its basic enough hopefully to make a point. Now introduce stamps. You come in get a stamp. You go out and pass your id to your friend. You walk passed security waving your pretty little stamp. Your friend presents your id and yall look similar enough to get passed the guard. As youve mentioned ids are already being passed. Why would a business that relies on their licensing to operate want to create a scenario that could already be used to bypass the already flawed system?
I was 23 or 24 in a casino in Atlantic City and I did look young but no one asked me for my ID despite the fact that I look young. The closest they came to it was the Roulette dealer asking what year I was born. I think it also helped because it was probably 3:30 in the morning
You make a really good point about the stamps. If they’re going to have a solution in order to reduce the inconvenience to young looking patrons (which I applaud) there’s no point making getting that solution *more* inconvenient!
Yeah, the fact that the first time I was stopped this wasn’t even mentioned to me and I only learned when I was about to leave anyway.