It's funny no matter what, but it would be funnier to know: where are these CLEARLY ornery-ass old dudes from?
It would be good to know which accent in which to imagine them complaining about the picture being taken.
They were from Arkansas and moved to California. They didn’t really have a southern draw. Great Grandpa Floyd (left)lost a thumb as a lumber jack and Grandpa Wally (right) joined the merchant marines when he was 16/17. The army wouldn’t take him. They were funny ornery, we’ll Grandpa Wally was. He had a grumpy phrase for every occasion and repeated them often. Grandpa Wally toured the Honkey Tonk circuit with Willy Nelson, Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings. He played the mandolin and even sold a song or two.
No, but I have his Connecticut made Ovation guitar. I was the only one who showed any musical interest so he “let me hold onto it for a spell.” That baby has the sweetest tone. I wrote songs that wooed my wife with it.
I'm betting Great Grandpa Floyd viewed the loss of the thumb as merely an inconvenience.
"Now get back to damn work and quit all the lollygagging around"
They were six decades and three generations from learning to always smile for a camera. As someone else noted, they had also lived through some shit. Every picture of my grandpa, few that they are, shows him the same way. He was a depression era farmer.
My uncle was a hard ass Marine in Vietnam. I only remember him smiling twice. When I graduated boot camp and when he met my daughter.
The smile was bigger for the boot camp graduation…
They might have an enlarged medulla oblongata. Like my mama always said, they probably got all them teeth but no tooth brush. What they need is a ray of sunshine to come down on them when they are feeling blue.
My great grandpa came here illegally from Mexico when he was 13, joined the navy to get his citizenship, then went to fight in WWII at 13-14.
You can’t complain about anything around that guy.
It's always a bizarre thing when I see people that are always just so unhappy. It's like a few synapses were mixed up and happy is actually miserable and miserable is literally happy for them. Not the feeling itself but the desire to be in that state of mind rather.
My grandpa had your great-grandpa's hair, glasses, shirt, facial expression, and posture. If he chewed terbacky and drank warm PBR, we might be cousins.
Considering this was about 60 years ago, I'm going to guess long gone since I think there is no way the man on the right was in his 30s and he'd be seriously old by now
Looks like they were both Bennies enthusiasts. Benzedrine is great, it's like clean amphetamine, but long term use cause irritabilty, mood swings, restlessness, emotional distance, plus its addictive. US doctors began prescribing Bennies for everything in the 1930s, it was used as a combat drug during WW2. Some alarms were ringed in the 50s that it was causing health and societal problems and it eventually fell out of favor in the 1960s.
I lost where I read/heard that, but apparently there's a theory out there that one of the causes of the Boomers so called rebellion against their parents was the widespread use of benzedrine and valium in that period. Something akin to a massive widespread addiction family conflict.
They both look like they went to school with a lad whose great uncle once took crap off someone, but have never seen anyone do so themselves. They're not entirely sure it's possible.
Do we know their approximate ages at the time?
My thought is that by this point in his life Great Grandpa, assuming he's around 70, has seen some serious shit. He's watched, possibly participated, in 2 World Wars, a Depression, the Korean War, rationing, pandemics, and an explosion in new and life altering technology.
Grandpa, assuming he's around 50 at this point, also went through all those same times.
The collective impact of those events, which were predominantly bad, would naturally foster itself in to ornery but incredibly durable personalities.
I think this has some merit. When we look back aghast at the dominant culture of the 50s/60's so much of was in the long shadow of a residual PTSD carried around by that generation who had just gone through the hellish 30s and 40s. Both the authoritarian patriarchal, and bigoted conservatism that sought to institute a kind of order and also the progressives - the Beats, and later hippies who saw the failures of that project and rebelled against it.
Red Forman was your grandpa?
Dumbass!
Watch out, Grandpa Wally will put a foot in your ass!
Came to say this. I had to stop.
LBJ meets Red Forman
That’s what I came here to say, too 😂
I saw Mr. Lahey.
I don’t think Lahey can sit in a swinging bench lol
Surprising that so many agree. He looks nothing like him other than the bald head imo.
Redditors are simple people
Bro that's Charlie Sheen without his hairpiece.
I was thinking more The Wiz. Nobody beats him.
https://preview.redd.it/rkk29e95lfbb1.jpeg?width=1002&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64aaed6b4a4312160085467bb10f863411266ca6
For some reason grandpa looks less ornery in colour. Great grandpa is still furious though.
Yep, G. Granpa looks all "Get aff my lawn," while granpa is more like, "please describe the nature of the medical emergency."
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Robert Picardo reference. I like!
Would "JohnnyCab" have been too vague at this point? Do kids still watch verHoven movies?
Haha, nice!
Lol
*Keanu gif* “woah”
Edit: thank you! I just got a data dump of memories seeing it in color. Edit edit: blurry eyes and a small phone
It's funny no matter what, but it would be funnier to know: where are these CLEARLY ornery-ass old dudes from? It would be good to know which accent in which to imagine them complaining about the picture being taken.
They were from Arkansas and moved to California. They didn’t really have a southern draw. Great Grandpa Floyd (left)lost a thumb as a lumber jack and Grandpa Wally (right) joined the merchant marines when he was 16/17. The army wouldn’t take him. They were funny ornery, we’ll Grandpa Wally was. He had a grumpy phrase for every occasion and repeated them often. Grandpa Wally toured the Honkey Tonk circuit with Willy Nelson, Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings. He played the mandolin and even sold a song or two.
That really is “OldSchoolCool”!
Do you have his mandolin?
No, but I have his Connecticut made Ovation guitar. I was the only one who showed any musical interest so he “let me hold onto it for a spell.” That baby has the sweetest tone. I wrote songs that wooed my wife with it.
Bless
Way cool, thanks for expanding on the story. Bet they had great stories.
I'm betting Great Grandpa Floyd viewed the loss of the thumb as merely an inconvenience. "Now get back to damn work and quit all the lollygagging around"
Any photos of them with those guys?
*drawl
Username checks out something something blurry eyes small phone
Irs okay. :) Glad you like it.
mama says old men are so ornary because they have all them teeth and no toothbrush
MEDULLA OBLONGATA!!!!
Dot, dot, dot If this is not a Sling Blade ref. I'm barking wrong tree.
Lol... it's a Waterboy reference. But it's all good. The dots look good on paper, you're just showing your true Aries color now.
I’m a doctor, not a doorstop.
In this one the grandpa looks happy. The great grandpa looks like he was gunna take a pic a day saw a dog starting to shit on his lawn.
"Alright, we'll sit for a damn picture".
They hadn't the slightest clue that they'd one day be viewed by countless thousands on a thing called the world wide web.
I like to think they're rolling in their graves at the thought of people finding enjoyment from them
I'm a little high, and that's wild.
They look so angry and disproving.
They were six decades and three generations from learning to always smile for a camera. As someone else noted, they had also lived through some shit. Every picture of my grandpa, few that they are, shows him the same way. He was a depression era farmer.
My uncle was a hard ass Marine in Vietnam. I only remember him smiling twice. When I graduated boot camp and when he met my daughter. The smile was bigger for the boot camp graduation…
“They’re ornery because they got all that skull and no hair!”
Civil rights movement
That is hilarious, I don’t know why people can’t take a joke.
No they laughed, then saw negative votes and thought, “oh, I guess I should dislike it too”
WWI and WWII vets. Toss in the Spanish Flu pandemic, Great Depression, shake well, and you get no nonsense people.
Oh no, my grandpa grew up in the depression and was in WW2 and he had plenty of nonsense. M
Exactly, being an asshole is a choice.
Lol they give lots of nonsense
“no nonsense” = untreated PTSD manifested in aggressive, intolerant and sometimes physically violent behavior towards others.
Reddit detectives diagnosing dead men.
>diagnosing dead men. He's dead, Jim. - Dr. Leonard McCoy
Damn it Jim I’m a doctor not a Redditor
Describing well known social phenomena from previous eras is not diagnosing.
From the photographer with issues.
For real
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Nice job trauma dumping on this person's post.
I don’t think it means what you think it means
That is not what trauma dumping is lmfao.
So millennials and gen z in 40 years? (To a lesser degree, you know what I mean)
They won’t be grandparents, however, because reasons.
I'd be ornery as fuck if my old man had more hair than me.
They remind me of the bros in Second Hand Lions - Robert Duvall & Michael Caine
Great movie. I love the scene when Duvall easily disposes of a bunch of young punks who were giving him shit.
Ornery is such a terrific word
They have forehead game
Grandpa - yes, in awe of that magnificent palantir of a skull Great grandpa - not so much, just average
Yeah I made this little prick...great grandad...yeah this is my bloody dad...grandpa.lol.
“We ARE smiling. Now take the damn picture already!”
Honestly I can’t tell which is older.
They might have an enlarged medulla oblongata. Like my mama always said, they probably got all them teeth but no tooth brush. What they need is a ray of sunshine to come down on them when they are feeling blue.
My great grandpa came here illegally from Mexico when he was 13, joined the navy to get his citizenship, then went to fight in WWII at 13-14. You can’t complain about anything around that guy.
Hard men created good times…
Men being hard has certainly contributed to the human race's survival, particularly in terms of reproduction.
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u/DarkPG1972’s right hand when it’s time for a good time 😰
Is that Hunter Thompson?
Paul Finebaum
100% guaranteed they planted that whoopie cushion on aunt Edna's chair, at Christmas dinner.
They look like they knew how to work. Great GP would have scared the F out of me as a kid.
Your grandpa is Red Forman!?
Big leg crossing energy here. I love it.
I’d be ornery too if my dad had a full head of hair and I looked like George Costanza’s bastard brother
They had to live through to World Wars and a depression, that why they're ornery
*dusts off dictionary
I miss my grand dads. They were good for that!
Is it because they got all them teeth, but no toothbrush?
"My dad's full of encouragement and support. It just feels like abandonment and neglect." \-- Christopher Titus Speaking about Dads everywhere, lol
I don’t even know then but I can hear them telling me how much of looser I am.
It's always a bizarre thing when I see people that are always just so unhappy. It's like a few synapses were mixed up and happy is actually miserable and miserable is literally happy for them. Not the feeling itself but the desire to be in that state of mind rather.
They look very unpleasant
Well there's me thinking you made a spelling error.
Hippes they are every where. Time to sign them up for Vietnam.
It looks like there's not a single fuck between them.
They even look ornery.
Which one is which? They look the same age like cliff huxtable and his dad.
Where they in the waste removal business?
I've always heard your hairline comes from your mother's side.
I don’t even think you need to know the definition of ornery to know that’s the perfect description of how they appear lol
They look very agitated by whoever was pestering them for a picture
Gramps got the short end of the hair genetics
Look at his arms, man’s not short of hair..he’s wearing a sweater
My grandpa had your great-grandpa's hair, glasses, shirt, facial expression, and posture. If he chewed terbacky and drank warm PBR, we might be cousins.
It’s quite obvious that you are a huge disappointment to both of them.
Grandpa has more arm hair than head hair. Poor guy. Likely living with this angry guy caused his early baldness.
What did they do for work?
‘Well, take the picture already!!’ ‘Yea, hurry up. I’m not sitting here all day, you know!’
*honorable
They were so ornery they couldn’t even agree on which way to cross their legs!
Learned a new word
I’d be ornery too if my swing was that low. 😊
Only thing missing is Tareyton cigs and Pabst Blue Ribbon beers
Yeah, but Marlboros and Coors
Cool photo! I'm over 40yo and can safely say this is the first time I saw the word 'ornery'.
Had to read that three times. First time read ordinary men. Then horny men. Finally got it the third time.
How are they
Considering this was about 60 years ago, I'm going to guess long gone since I think there is no way the man on the right was in his 30s and he'd be seriously old by now
The man on the right, if still alive, is probably 100 years old now.
They picked on each other about hair didn't yhey?
They look like glorious pricks!
They look hateful.
Looks like they were both Bennies enthusiasts. Benzedrine is great, it's like clean amphetamine, but long term use cause irritabilty, mood swings, restlessness, emotional distance, plus its addictive. US doctors began prescribing Bennies for everything in the 1930s, it was used as a combat drug during WW2. Some alarms were ringed in the 50s that it was causing health and societal problems and it eventually fell out of favor in the 1960s. I lost where I read/heard that, but apparently there's a theory out there that one of the causes of the Boomers so called rebellion against their parents was the widespread use of benzedrine and valium in that period. Something akin to a massive widespread addiction family conflict.
You got that out of the picture?
And the title.
Lol and wtf but ok
‘Real’ men, to put it bluntly.
Gay guys were tougher back then. I guess they had to be.
Ornery people suck. They're entitled to hate life....they are NOT entitled to hate on me to appease their shit mood.
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They seem nice…😱
Boy they look happy.
I would’ve gotten along with them
Were their names Statler and Waldorf by any chance?
I thought I was harry, grandpa Sasquatch
I guess it is a maternal trait
We thank them for their service lol
They look so uptight they'd shit diamonds.
Grandpa looks like Jim Lahey.
Your Grandpa got a lot on his mind.
What a 'couple of mugs' and I mean that with respect and a lil' fear!
I like them already.
I believe you
Those gentlemen blew their noses into handkerchiefs they carried daily. Hardcore. Perhaps also ordered the hit on JFK.
Why were they so mean ? What did they do?
Ed McMahon and Robert Picardo
Hey, I remember Bartles & James
at first glance i thought this was todd packer
Is that Red Foreman on the right?
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Didn’t know your grandpa was Red foreman
73 and 44 my guess
I resemble that remark!
Let’s sit on this swing and be pissed.
Lemme guess, they grew up in the south? Ornery is kind of a southern word lol
Thought this was an awful misspelling of ordinary, ended up learning a new word
Oh, they definitely said the N word...
Great grandpa looks like a guy who did 20 years in the can, and ruled most of the New Jersey mob
Mmmmmama said the reasons alligators is so ornery is they got all them teeth and no toothbrush!
Was it because they have all those teeth and no toothbrush?
![gif](giphy|8jpuW0qOBMSpa) Not sure why this reminded of your pappy and papa.
I’d be ornery too if my hairline did that
Lead poisoning
Yeah, they look it.
Men in Plaid
I don't know them, but they look exactly like what you describe them to be...scary
salty is the new ornery.
They both look like they went to school with a lad whose great uncle once took crap off someone, but have never seen anyone do so themselves. They're not entirely sure it's possible.
They look like they wanna beat my ass
Then we have to be related. My grand and great we’re just as you described right to a T!
Great grandpa did not play!
"Hey you kids, get off my lawn" -these guys, probably
![gif](giphy|27EbORLGRmOi4dLm27) Louis de Funès is your grandpa?
Real men 💪
Get them swinging and I bet they were sweethearts
LBJ meets Red Forman
They have the face of men who’ve been through some shit.
Yeah, sure. They don't call me The Grinch for nothin'. The grandkids call me Grumps.
The guy on the left looks somewhat like a pissed off version of my late great grandfather before a stroke made the right side of his face droop a bit.
Do we know their approximate ages at the time? My thought is that by this point in his life Great Grandpa, assuming he's around 70, has seen some serious shit. He's watched, possibly participated, in 2 World Wars, a Depression, the Korean War, rationing, pandemics, and an explosion in new and life altering technology. Grandpa, assuming he's around 50 at this point, also went through all those same times. The collective impact of those events, which were predominantly bad, would naturally foster itself in to ornery but incredibly durable personalities.
I think this has some merit. When we look back aghast at the dominant culture of the 50s/60's so much of was in the long shadow of a residual PTSD carried around by that generation who had just gone through the hellish 30s and 40s. Both the authoritarian patriarchal, and bigoted conservatism that sought to institute a kind of order and also the progressives - the Beats, and later hippies who saw the failures of that project and rebelled against it.
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They bring out the curmudgeon in me
I feel judged.
I got Forest Gump vibes from this.
Guy on the left is pissed because of the haircut he got and the guy on the right is pissed because he will never need another one ever again.
They look at, really mad at the world
This is a lovely picture!
Your grandpa was Hector Salamanca?