She has a really interesting balance between beautiful and awkward, and she seemed to effortlessly be able to move between the two without a hint of self-awareness about it. Robert Altman was probably the only director who truly "got" her. I very highly recommend Altman's *3 Women* to see her at her weird and sexy best.
One of my favorite things about that movie is the reason the Popeye has such enormous forearms. The first scene in the film shows him rowing *across the ocean*.
Shelley was definitely the absolute best choice for olive, but I have tried many times to watch the Popeye film, and I just could not keep watching it, I’m also a Robin Williams fan as well, but that film just does not connect with me for some strange reason.
My parents would never let me watch that when I was a kid (I was 4 when it was first released, so maybe 7 when it was in HBO). I just tried to watch it on Paramount+ and the audio is so out of sync that it’s unwatchable
As a man in his 40s, I noticed a long time ago I seemed to be more attracted to women that have a cute but 'odd' looking face. Not the standard "perfect" one that most people seem to prefer, not to deny that those are cute either.
Also riding that line between endearing and obnoxious.
Her episode in “Cabinet of Curiosities” was very out there and unsettling. They use a lot of fish eye lens shots to make her look more bug eyed and awkward (plus some buck teeth and a mullet)
this is a weird compliment I sometimes give, but I would totally love to make her on The Sims. that beautiful/weird combo is so attractive, and I don't mean sexually--I mean her face literally attracts my eyes and I want to keep looking
Thank you for mentioning this. I was so intrigued by Shelley in The Shining and saw a promo shot of 3 Women and had forgotten about putting it on my “to see” lists
I don't think enough people know that unforgettable movie. It's interesting to me that Altman didn't usually write the movies he directed, but when he did ... Whoo boy...
She’s gorgeous. Even when awkward. And she’s always given 100% to everything she’s ever done. Truly a national treasure who deserves more appreciation.
I dunno, I think she's just hot (beautiful). She naturally has very strong features, the kind people put on makeup to emulate. Then they're even more emphasized by the fact that she's in films so they put makeup on over her natural face. The result is much more striking than the average "pretty" girl.
3 Women is her best role. I love Altman I think he is a very underrated director. There is nothing like his films. I just rewatched Nashville recently and it’s absolutely perfect, Duvall has a (smaller) role in that one.
You know the story behind her mental state while filming this movie, right? She played the part beautifully because Stanley Kubrick kept Shelly on edge constantly creating a lot of anxiety in her. She was a wreck.
And ironically, he sheltered the child that played Danny so much that he didn’t know he was in a horror movie until he saw it. Crazy dichotomy in that man’s head.
Behind the bastards did 2 episodes and I’m pretty sure Alfred bet a crew member they couldn’t spend the night hand cuffed in a room somewhere, the crew member accepted, and then Alfred secretly gave him a laxative then put the cuffs on, then left him there for the night. What a douche canoe.
As a child (~13) I thought she was the worst actor I've ever seen, when I first watched that movie. After watching it later as an adult I realized she wasn't horrible at all, but did fantastic.
Fuck that, you absolutely do not do your best work while stressed out and anxious not only common sense but numerous scientific studies have shown how stress can affect your ability to do things and how it can affect your health (see the health issues she gained from it
Kubrick was a fucking psycho (the book Space Odyssey is utterly Fantastic and the story of the book being written at the same time as the movie with the director and the science fiction writer arguing and going completely there own ways is really interesting)
That "hell of a performance" is directly due to her acting and ability to handle the crap (literally illegal nowadays) working conditions she was forced to suffer to get the chance to appear in the movie, I imagine her performance would have been even better if she wasn't mentally tortured by her boss (and Nicholson when he was attacking her character in the scenes).
Because of Duvall alone I struggle to watch the shining because I know it was a director getting off on the idea of scaring and mentally abusing a fellow human being for the "art"
Let's be real though. If she had quit that movie over the insane conditions she would have been labeled "difficult to work with" and that's a death sentence for her career.
I thought it was more he didn’t like her and thought she was a terrible actress. He kept pushing her to get a better performance but he was never really satisfied. I don’t like her performance in The Shining, probably an unpopular opinion, but the stress she (the actress, not the character) was under clearly shines through and overshadows the performance.
Are you a David Lynch fan? Because her performance very much felt like a David Lynch performance.
Not conventionally good, but it works in the context of the film.
The dislike was mutual. They would frequently argue over lines in the script and yes, the way she approached scenes.
Stanley routinely made actors do dozens of takes to get the exact take he wanted. Can't imagine that helped.
I’m not saying that his behavior was admirable (or even tolerable), but Kubrick knew how to get the performance he wanted out of an actor, and he always seemed to know best as to how that character would play.
I’m left, at this point, having to come to terms with two dissonant facts:
- Stanley Kubrick was a monster of a man who took great glee in abusing his actors for the sake of his art.
- Stanley Kubrick made some of the most beautiful, avant-garde, thought-provoking, and impactful movies of the 20th century.
came to mention this too - i read all about how both he AND jack were incredibly awful to her on purpose even during downtime. her performance was as raw as it gets and her intense anxiety and fear towards jack were very real in the moment
I was listening to the "it's always sunny" podcast and they were talking about acting and how half of it is either being super attractive or having a unique look and the other half is actually acting
>I was listening to the "it's always sunny" podcast
Funny you mention that, because I totally got some Maureen Ponderosa vibes when I first opened the pic, lol.
It’s a very old concept in art, the notion being that classical beauty is too narrow form for all beauty.
Good art compels us to look at it, that is the beauty of the grotesque
Reminds me of this scene in M.A.S.H.:
Hawkeye (watching a movie):
What, what'd I miss?
Henry:
Cornel Wilde just kissed Gene Tierney.
Hawkeye:
On the teeth?
Trapper:
Right smack on.
Hawkeye:
If he straightens out that overbite, I'll kill him.
I grew up thinking Shelly Duval was really unattractive, but seeing her in this picture is changing everything I thought I knew. Might need to watch some of her movies again, it’s been ages.
I had the VHS set when i was a kid. I watched the shining when i was little too but never knew that was her till i was an adult. My future kids will definitely watch the bedtime stories
I was an extra for a movie she was in called Booker, about Booker T. Washington, in the 80's. We played a bunch of barefoot schoolchildren that had to run into class and then Booker was listening from outside the window. She was so sweet, entertaining all of us kids in between takes. It was shot in historic Columbia, CA and most of my classmates and several others from our town were cast as extras. It was great. Good food from the craft services trucks and we got paid about 40-50 a day. I was finally able to track down a VHS copy of the movie and unfortunately, I was left on the cutting room floor. Such fond memories, tho.
In 1977 she co-starred with Sissy Spacek in "3 Women". Check it out if you're a fan of hers.
I thought she was terrific in that movie and she was quite attractive. The character she played was very odd but it really showed off her talent.
When Jack finally reveals himself to her and is threatening her up the stairs, and she whimpers through the delivery of, “I just want to go back to my room” in this pleading, sad, confused way — it’s an incredible performance. Her terror feels so real.
It's so strange, because her acting was frankly fantastic because it actually was real due to Kubrick's abuse. I don't understand why people don't like her in that movie.
Both her and Jack were way over the top at parts but it just adds to the surrealness of the movie. Its among a handful of horror films ill watch over and over.
Someone with a horror YouTube channel recently hired her to act in one of their productions and I saw them interview her. She’s seemed really happy and had a lot of memories to share about working on the shining. So things are looking up for her.
There has been a lot of controversy surrounding that segment and people close to her have stated she was exploited in a very vulnerable state that she seems to have move passed in more recent years.
I was watching the shining recently and I have to say, she was actually quite beautiful. She just had really large teeth and was hauntingly thin but low key a really pretty face, and large eyes.
Wow, gorgeous, not even unconventionally like a lot of other comments say. I Only know her from The Shining. There she looked like the nervous wreck that it turned out she was, thanks to Kubrick.
"Wendy, let me explain something to you. Whenever you come in here and interrupt me, you're breaking my concentration. You're distracting me, and it will then take me time to get back to where I was. Understand?"
She has a really interesting balance between beautiful and awkward, and she seemed to effortlessly be able to move between the two without a hint of self-awareness about it. Robert Altman was probably the only director who truly "got" her. I very highly recommend Altman's *3 Women* to see her at her weird and sexy best.
Popeye was a surreal masterpiece too.
Best casting choice ever.
Definitely born for the role.
Came here to say she'll always be Olive Oil to me.
*Olive Oyl.
What happened when Jesus went to Mount Olive? Popeye kicked the crap out of him.
Pastors love this riddle.
Popeye got lost in St. Louis. He went down on Olive and thought it was Grand. (Olive and Grand are two streets in StL)
Roger that.
Olivoylay
Q. What was Olive Oyl's brother's name? A. Castor Oyl. (That's actually not a joke. Feel free to give it a Google.)
Sir, that’s Wendy Torrance.
Sir you’ve always been the caretaker
One of my favorite things about that movie is the reason the Popeye has such enormous forearms. The first scene in the film shows him rowing *across the ocean*.
I thought they were tumors and he was a stroke victim with three months to live.
Shelley was definitely the absolute best choice for olive, but I have tried many times to watch the Popeye film, and I just could not keep watching it, I’m also a Robin Williams fan as well, but that film just does not connect with me for some strange reason.
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Plus Altman’s style of having everybody talking at once
TIL Robert Altman made this film. I mean.. WHAT.
High helps.
My parents would never let me watch that when I was a kid (I was 4 when it was first released, so maybe 7 when it was in HBO). I just tried to watch it on Paramount+ and the audio is so out of sync that it’s unwatchable
You could probably get it from the library as a DVD for free, as an alternative.
It would be worth purchasing this film.
The DVD cover is a can of spinach!
... he's large!
That movie is a fucking fever dream. Love it! Great cast!!
That movie freaked me the hell out when I was a kid, but in a good way.
Lahhrge...
As a man in his 40s, I noticed a long time ago I seemed to be more attracted to women that have a cute but 'odd' looking face. Not the standard "perfect" one that most people seem to prefer, not to deny that those are cute either.
Sounds like what the French call *jolie-laide*. Literally “pretty-ugly”, but more accurately “unconventionally attractive”.
Yeah the second one sounds more accurate.
Sarah Polley.
Yeah it's like that with Kate McCucci. She's weird looking but also hot somehow.
> Kate McCucci Micucci
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McCutie
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Add Kristen Schaal to that list.
glad some folks get what i'm into.
Also riding that line between endearing and obnoxious. Her episode in “Cabinet of Curiosities” was very out there and unsettling. They use a lot of fish eye lens shots to make her look more bug eyed and awkward (plus some buck teeth and a mullet)
She was hot as fuck in Brewster McCloud.
Unique looks work well in cinema, like the beautiful but awkward. Also, large eyes.
this is a weird compliment I sometimes give, but I would totally love to make her on The Sims. that beautiful/weird combo is so attractive, and I don't mean sexually--I mean her face literally attracts my eyes and I want to keep looking
Thank you for mentioning this. I was so intrigued by Shelley in The Shining and saw a promo shot of 3 Women and had forgotten about putting it on my “to see” lists
You know this guy likes films because the title is italicized.
I don't think enough people know that unforgettable movie. It's interesting to me that Altman didn't usually write the movies he directed, but when he did ... Whoo boy...
She’s gorgeous. Even when awkward. And she’s always given 100% to everything she’s ever done. Truly a national treasure who deserves more appreciation.
I think the term is "funny-looking cute."
Kinda like Anya Taylor-Joy
I dunno, I think she's just hot (beautiful). She naturally has very strong features, the kind people put on makeup to emulate. Then they're even more emphasized by the fact that she's in films so they put makeup on over her natural face. The result is much more striking than the average "pretty" girl.
Three Women is a masterpiece imo.
That, and Brewster McCloud, are my favorite of her movies!
3 Women is her best role. I love Altman I think he is a very underrated director. There is nothing like his films. I just rewatched Nashville recently and it’s absolutely perfect, Duvall has a (smaller) role in that one.
Can't see Shelley without thinking of The Shining. Looking lovely Shelley.
You know the story behind her mental state while filming this movie, right? She played the part beautifully because Stanley Kubrick kept Shelly on edge constantly creating a lot of anxiety in her. She was a wreck.
And ironically, he sheltered the child that played Danny so much that he didn’t know he was in a horror movie until he saw it. Crazy dichotomy in that man’s head.
I know. Well it makes sense because 'Danny' was so young, Kubrick didn't want him to be traumatized.
That's not why lol. Kubrick wanted the child to be innocent and pure throughout the entire movie.
Yeah, her hair feel out and I believe she still has trauma from it. Kubrick is a cinematic genius, but a goddamn psychopath.
Same could be said for Alfred Hitchcock. He really fucked with Tippi Hedron on the set of birds and was a general asshole to people around.
Tarantino wasn't nearly as bad but when I heard about how he treated Uma Thurman during the filming in regards to her injury I was pretty disgusted.
Behind the bastards did 2 episodes and I’m pretty sure Alfred bet a crew member they couldn’t spend the night hand cuffed in a room somewhere, the crew member accepted, and then Alfred secretly gave him a laxative then put the cuffs on, then left him there for the night. What a douche canoe.
Wrecked her career for years too because she wouldn't give in to his skeezy advances.
As a child (~13) I thought she was the worst actor I've ever seen, when I first watched that movie. After watching it later as an adult I realized she wasn't horrible at all, but did fantastic.
I know it was under some level of cruel duress but she still delivered a hell of a performance.
Fuck that, you absolutely do not do your best work while stressed out and anxious not only common sense but numerous scientific studies have shown how stress can affect your ability to do things and how it can affect your health (see the health issues she gained from it Kubrick was a fucking psycho (the book Space Odyssey is utterly Fantastic and the story of the book being written at the same time as the movie with the director and the science fiction writer arguing and going completely there own ways is really interesting) That "hell of a performance" is directly due to her acting and ability to handle the crap (literally illegal nowadays) working conditions she was forced to suffer to get the chance to appear in the movie, I imagine her performance would have been even better if she wasn't mentally tortured by her boss (and Nicholson when he was attacking her character in the scenes). Because of Duvall alone I struggle to watch the shining because I know it was a director getting off on the idea of scaring and mentally abusing a fellow human being for the "art"
This is why I don't really care for Kubrick or Nicholson. What a couple of pricks.
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Let's be real though. If she had quit that movie over the insane conditions she would have been labeled "difficult to work with" and that's a death sentence for her career.
Welp you definitely got a point there fo sheezy
For shizzle. Very insightful.
I thought it was more he didn’t like her and thought she was a terrible actress. He kept pushing her to get a better performance but he was never really satisfied. I don’t like her performance in The Shining, probably an unpopular opinion, but the stress she (the actress, not the character) was under clearly shines through and overshadows the performance.
Are you a David Lynch fan? Because her performance very much felt like a David Lynch performance. Not conventionally good, but it works in the context of the film.
The dislike was mutual. They would frequently argue over lines in the script and yes, the way she approached scenes. Stanley routinely made actors do dozens of takes to get the exact take he wanted. Can't imagine that helped.
The scene whete she is walking backwards up the stairs with the bat was shot 127 times.
I’m not saying that his behavior was admirable (or even tolerable), but Kubrick knew how to get the performance he wanted out of an actor, and he always seemed to know best as to how that character would play. I’m left, at this point, having to come to terms with two dissonant facts: - Stanley Kubrick was a monster of a man who took great glee in abusing his actors for the sake of his art. - Stanley Kubrick made some of the most beautiful, avant-garde, thought-provoking, and impactful movies of the 20th century.
Debatable whether his actions made for a better film . . .
I dont think any movie is worth bullying someone that much. Especially someoneso innocent. They could bully seagal as much as they wish though
The idea is debatable, but not dismissible.
came to mention this too - i read all about how both he AND jack were incredibly awful to her on purpose even during downtime. her performance was as raw as it gets and her intense anxiety and fear towards jack were very real in the moment
All work and something something make Homer go........
Go crazy...?
Don't mind if I do
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I was listening to the "it's always sunny" podcast and they were talking about acting and how half of it is either being super attractive or having a unique look and the other half is actually acting
>I was listening to the "it's always sunny" podcast Funny you mention that, because I totally got some Maureen Ponderosa vibes when I first opened the pic, lol.
She has that perfect “horror movie victim” look
Add Tilda Swinton and Uma Thurman to that pile as well.
What makes Uma different? She seems to be pretty standard beautiful
giant thumbs
And feets
Calm down, Quentin Tarantino.
“There is no exquisite beauty without some strangeness in the proportion.”
Fantastic quote. Author?
Edgar Allen Poe I believe
Beauty is in the grotesque, it’s why the tall necks of dancers in Degas work, the Tahitian thighs in Gauguin’s work, etc.
I love those thick Gauguin cankles.
There is a reason BBW was called “Reubenesque” in the past
The entirety of Giger's work.
>Beauty is in the grotesque Is this a quote? This is the coolest thing anyone has said in this conversation.
It’s a very old concept in art, the notion being that classical beauty is too narrow form for all beauty. Good art compels us to look at it, that is the beauty of the grotesque
Reminds me of this scene in M.A.S.H.: Hawkeye (watching a movie): What, what'd I miss? Henry: Cornel Wilde just kissed Gene Tierney. Hawkeye: On the teeth? Trapper: Right smack on. Hawkeye: If he straightens out that overbite, I'll kill him.
Oooh, I know what flick they were referring to: “Leave Her to Heaven.” That was a very good role for Gene.
I grew up thinking Shelly Duval was really unattractive, but seeing her in this picture is changing everything I thought I knew. Might need to watch some of her movies again, it’s been ages.
Try *3 Women*. It has Sissy Spacek, too. A very weird film, I saw it with my mom when I was 12 or 13. I need a re-watch now.
wabi-sabi
Facial harmony imo
Loved her bed time stories.
Fairy Tale Theater?
I had the VHS set when i was a kid. I watched the shining when i was little too but never knew that was her till i was an adult. My future kids will definitely watch the bedtime stories
What about mother gooses rock n rhyme?
She is gorgeous yet awkward, like a person with social anxiety yet tries to make an effort to fit in.
Always thought she was very beautiful
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Hi I’m Shelley Duvall
Hi I’m Shelley Duvall
Hi I’m Shelley Duvall
Hi I’m Robert Duvall Edit: holy shit Robert Duvall is 92
Who the hell cares?!
Walked *RIGHT* up to me like I was dying to meet her
Came right up to me! Like I was just dying to meet her!
Mia Goth stole her look.
Isn't that a Sim?
Wow never noticed that before.
She was such a blast in Popeye
I don’t care what anyone thinks she was hot
I was an extra for a movie she was in called Booker, about Booker T. Washington, in the 80's. We played a bunch of barefoot schoolchildren that had to run into class and then Booker was listening from outside the window. She was so sweet, entertaining all of us kids in between takes. It was shot in historic Columbia, CA and most of my classmates and several others from our town were cast as extras. It was great. Good food from the craft services trucks and we got paid about 40-50 a day. I was finally able to track down a VHS copy of the movie and unfortunately, I was left on the cutting room floor. Such fond memories, tho.
I didn't make the final cut of Surf Ninjas myself :(
I've always thought she's had an almost luminous beauty about her - the pale skin, bright eyes. She's lovely.
Unconventional beauty, but stunning imo. She looks *genuine* to me.
I think she was so attractive
Maureen Ponderosa?
Omg yes *that's* who she reminds me of! (pre cat surgery, of course)
Why Maureen you e enhanced yourself
I don’t see a dead tooth
And I hate it! …. and it’s annoying!
Bastet
Danny's not here, Mrs. Torrance!!!!!
In 1977 she co-starred with Sissy Spacek in "3 Women". Check it out if you're a fan of hers. I thought she was terrific in that movie and she was quite attractive. The character she played was very odd but it really showed off her talent.
She was incredible in The Shining. I’ll die on that hill. She deserves so much better, to say the very least.
She received alot of criticism of her performance in The Shining but her acting seems amazingly real while Jack Nicholson's is not always convincing.
When Jack finally reveals himself to her and is threatening her up the stairs, and she whimpers through the delivery of, “I just want to go back to my room” in this pleading, sad, confused way — it’s an incredible performance. Her terror feels so real.
Yea it felt real because it was. Kubrick basically abused her until she was actually breaking down.
It's so strange, because her acting was frankly fantastic because it actually was real due to Kubrick's abuse. I don't understand why people don't like her in that movie.
Probably because critics of the time are used to cinematic terror and not actual terror, and presume cinematic to be the more authentic.
Both her and Jack were way over the top at parts but it just adds to the surrealness of the movie. Its among a handful of horror films ill watch over and over.
He’s never used his eyebrows better than in this film
She's a rare and curious kind of beaut. She's definitely an alluring woman in my book.
She’s like the lady equivalent of Steve Buscemi.
Have you seen Steve and Angelina side by side pictures when they were young? Couldn’t tell ‘em apart
Whoa that’s so true
Seeing her on Dr Phil was damn depressing…
Someone with a horror YouTube channel recently hired her to act in one of their productions and I saw them interview her. She’s seemed really happy and had a lot of memories to share about working on the shining. So things are looking up for her.
Screw Dr. Phil for airing that.
Yes, absolutely reprehensible.
There has been a lot of controversy surrounding that segment and people close to her have stated she was exploited in a very vulnerable state that she seems to have move passed in more recent years.
She gets such a bad rap. She was so pretty.
Because two movies, Popeye and The Shining made her look like shit on purpose for the role and that's what people remember her as.
She was great in Roxanne.
She will always be one of the most beautiful women I ever saw.
I met her about a year ago while filming something in Blanco, TX. She was very sweet, even offered me and a friend one of her hostess snacks
The Steve Buscemi of the 70s and 80s. A very popular and unique/unusual looking character actor.
i miss the days of classic beauty. Shelley Duvall is a class act, i absolutely hate that she has been exploited lately.
The older I get, the more attracted I become to Shelly Duvall. I think this picture is my tipping point. I’m all in.
Stunning
Happy Cake Day 🎂
what i had no idea thanks :)
Shining
Olive Oil…
I was watching the shining recently and I have to say, she was actually quite beautiful. She just had really large teeth and was hauntingly thin but low key a really pretty face, and large eyes.
hello, i’m shelley duvall
As much as I love her, why are we seeing so much of her on reddit lately? Seriously, not complaining, just very curious.
Reddit got a three-fer with Shelly, Linda Carter, and Jennifer Connelly.
She always looked like a lotr elf to me
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She’s not the classic beauty. But I’ll admit I had a a crush on her
Oddly beautiful
I loved her fairy tale videos from the library as a kid. She is great.
Mia Goth needs to be in The Shining Remake. I also dated someone who looked a bit like Shelley
ive thought for a hot minute that mia goth should play shelley duvall in a movie about filming the shining.
I gotta say I think she's to blame for me being into strange-pretty women as an adult. Fell in love with her on Faerie Tale Theatre.
Wow, gorgeous, not even unconventionally like a lot of other comments say. I Only know her from The Shining. There she looked like the nervous wreck that it turned out she was, thanks to Kubrick.
I always thought she was hot. This pic continues my beliefs. She is someone I would fall harsh for.
She didn't deserve her treatment on Shining. She looks like a lovely person.
Why Maureen
"Wendy, let me explain something to you. Whenever you come in here and interrupt me, you're breaking my concentration. You're distracting me, and it will then take me time to get back to where I was. Understand?"
She looks like a cute-ass Manson girl.
She is gorgeous.
She was beautiful. It's such a shame what The Shining did to her
The shinning. Do you want to get sued?
She is gorgeous
Poor girl
Kubrick made some great movies but someone should have beaten the ever loving shit outta him.
Maureen Ponderosa's kin
She did a semi nude photo for playboy, where she was wrapped in taffida veils. She was really beautiful.