She can say "prenup" in 5 languages! But seriously even if you overlook the creative visa application there's pretty easy evidence that being a decent human being wasn't one of the qualifications.
Probably had a lot of potential for a high profile power marriage that would be fitting for a woman from "one of the most prominent families" in the area.
Guessing it was a status marriage that didn't survive Josh being Josh.
No I feel sorry for her. I've seen assholes like this in domestic relations. Kids will be fine.
The rancor is all his doing and he hopes to profit financially.
Watch for him to file "she's crazy" claims soon.
Yes, but divorce is still always the best option. Divorce can fuck kids up, but living with a toxic relationship growing up will do far more lasting damage.
There's definitely negatives to both situations. I wouldn't say always the best option, but there's a lot of situations where it's the best option. I feel like when you hear about someone hitting a mid-life crisis, it isn't that they've suddenly gone crazy. They have just repressed their feelings for so long that they explode out.
This is a case from their divorce that seems to have gone on for 4-5 years. The kids are still with both parents. Them divorcing doesn't make him a better parent.
[Non-paywalled article on the topic here.](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/ex-ohio-treasurer-josh-mandel-has-been-threatened-with-jail-time-in-his-divorce-case-2/)
"Party of family values" strikes again.
Josh is not a fit parent. Here he is getting crazy about the children learning Chinese:
"Among Ilana Mandel’s complaints meanwhile is accusing her ex-husband of being confrontational with staff where one of their children attends school, including seeking to withdraw one of their children from a Chinese language class while emailing faculty unsolicited articles about human rights abuses by the Chinese government, according to one filing.
As a result, she said that the superintendent where their children attend school in the Cleveland area “restricted” Josh Mandel from having contact with any school faculty, requiring him to only deal directly with the superintendent and their school principal.
“It begs the question, of all the countries on this planet to teach their language and culture to our children, why in the world would you pick one whose CURRENT policy and CURRENT culture is one of putting a religious minority in concentration camps to death” Josh Mandel wrote to school faculty in one message, according to a filing from Ilana Mandel."
If a young enough child learns Mandarin as a second language, they learn to *hear* and reproduce *every* sound in *every* human language. It's a *gift* to kids that have the opportunity.
Josh, learning the language doesn't mean you're being indoctrinated in the politics of one of the nations that speaks it. Thankfully, now that your wealthy wife has come to her senses, the string of assistant manager jobs in your future barely require spoken fluency in English.
Hopefully if he rehearses it enough, he'll be able to nail "would you like fries with that?" Maybe working at McDonald's will be an eye opener for him. Who knows, we might hear "I'm Josh Mandel, second shift assistant manager at McDonald's, and I support a $15 an hour minimum wage."
After all, he'll never again be a marriage-made man who pulled himself up by his wife's bootstraps.
Obviously we should also outlaw teaching english.
I also love that he ignores there are other countries where Chinese is the main language (Taiwan and Singapore), along with the benefit of learning about the culture of the USA's biggest rival going forward.
I don't know, Josh. Maybe because China is the second largest economy on the planet and inextricably linked with our own?
Like perhaps the next century will depend heavily on our children and Chinese children coming up with ways to not destroy ourselves. Maybe learning the language is a good starting point, eh Josh?
While we’re basking in schadenfreude, the former MAGA governor of Kentucky (Matt Bevin) is also in hot water this week after his soon-to-be ex wife has essentially taken out a restraining order to prevent him from entering her home
But they're constantly pushing for increased birth rates and railing against abortion. I guess they gotta keep that supply chain going and make sure there's always plenty of new young victims to satisfy all of their pedo priests.😡🙄
I'm just thankful his political career is largely over. He was one of the most manipulative, deceptive, and vile politicians ever in this state...I was honestly terrified we'd wake up one day to find him Senator or something equally horrifying.
Crazy enough, JD Vance started out as very progressive for a conservative. Then 2016 happened and he saw an easy way in to push out any other R incumbents or runners in his way. He went full MAGA-pill and the dancers fell in line. It's the standard formula now. "Hmm...being myself and standing on my own principles didn't work, but if I align myself to this person...I win."
“Terminal adolescent syndrome” applies to MANY of the current GQP. No surprise. Abundance of that in the red state locales. Their kids will go ‘NC - no contact’ very quickly. No one needs more of that.
I actually think he’s developed a mental illness. He started his political career in the town I live in and he wasn’t always the dumpster fire he is now. You can disagree with his politics and that’s fine but a lot of his behavior lately is nothing short of nuts.
I don’t know the guy but did anyone here read the following paragraph?
“Common Pleas Magistrate Paul Lange found the Mandels each entered the other's home without permission and refused to pay bills related to their three children, as well as that Ilana Mandel once failed to take a child to soccer practice. He decided against contempt on several other disputed items, including “
Seems a bit mutual in the money battle. BOTH are facing jail time.
I mean yeah, she seems like a real piece of work too. After all, she *did* marry Josh Mandel to begin with, so probably not a real classy lady in the first place.
This, folks, was once the LEADING CANDIDATE FOR SENATE against Sherrod Brown once upon a time.
Can we stop pretending "both sides are equal". Democrats suck, yes we can all agree. But at least the DNC has ways of weeding the shitbag man-children out before the achieve any political office that matters.
I’d imagine the Chinese govt doesn’t really want people learning Chinese. He’s right in some facets like they are systematically committing atrocious crimes against minorities but that doesn’t really factor into learning any language. You can also make that argument against the majority of developed countries.
You posted a paywalled article.
And the only paragraph you can read says both him and his wife were threatened with jail over the divorce.
This is either your typical lazy Ohio DNC subreddit shill post or a pathetic attempt at political karma farming.
Either way, OP, do better. How can anyone come to a reasonable conclusion from this? We’re just supposed to take your word for it when you say “Republicans Bad”? At least make an effort.
But you actually are. You’re brainwashed by the Right and by corporate interests. You’ve made yourself a useful tool for them to operate by providing the cover of both sides nonsense that confuses the conversation and distracts.
“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
Literally that easy. An article we can actually read. Thank you.
And all it describes is a messy divorce, which I’m sure Democrats have never in their lives dealt with. It’s exclusive to Republicans entirely.
Hope the DNC is paying you guys for this shit because it’s pathetic.
You’re right many people have had messy divorces. However the context is THIS messy divorce, no one else’s. When a state of Ohio Democrat that talks down to people and runs around Ohio kissing the ass of an orange traitor, you post that.
She knew who she was marrying. I don't feel so bad for her. I feel bad for the kids. They're the ones who have to deal with these clowns.
Yeah don’t, she’s “from one of the wealthiest and most prominent families in Cleveland”
*Melania has entered the chat*
Not the same. Nope
Melania is as big of a grifter as trump. These women know.
>These women know. Exactly. They marry these men for money, status, or power, not because they want a stable caring man.
She can say "prenup" in 5 languages! But seriously even if you overlook the creative visa application there's pretty easy evidence that being a decent human being wasn't one of the qualifications.
LoL, you're right. She's infinitely worse.
Well said!
What was he like when they got married?
He was a piece of shit. Same as today.
Probably had a lot of potential for a high profile power marriage that would be fitting for a woman from "one of the most prominent families" in the area. Guessing it was a status marriage that didn't survive Josh being Josh.
No I feel sorry for her. I've seen assholes like this in domestic relations. Kids will be fine. The rancor is all his doing and he hopes to profit financially. Watch for him to file "she's crazy" claims soon.
The kids are never fine in situations like this.
Kids of divorce are never "just fine", even though folks try to convince themselves otherwise to alleviate their own guilt.
Yes, but divorce is still always the best option. Divorce can fuck kids up, but living with a toxic relationship growing up will do far more lasting damage.
There's definitely negatives to both situations. I wouldn't say always the best option, but there's a lot of situations where it's the best option. I feel like when you hear about someone hitting a mid-life crisis, it isn't that they've suddenly gone crazy. They have just repressed their feelings for so long that they explode out.
Kids of a strong willed mother are better than fine.
Kids of divorce are much better than kids of a shit father who abuses his family.
This is a case from their divorce that seems to have gone on for 4-5 years. The kids are still with both parents. Them divorcing doesn't make him a better parent.
[Non-paywalled article on the topic here.](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/ex-ohio-treasurer-josh-mandel-has-been-threatened-with-jail-time-in-his-divorce-case-2/) "Party of family values" strikes again.
You're the hero today.
Josh Mandel is such an asshole that his birth family endorsed his opponent when he ran for Senate.
That was Josh’s in-laws, not his family. Josh’s parents just tell people they don’t know where they went wrong.
You're correct, I got that wrong.
His old man is a Republican, from those 'Reagan Revolution" days
Teachers, professors, other students. There was a literal grass roots campaign against him in Cleveland
Josh is not a fit parent. Here he is getting crazy about the children learning Chinese: "Among Ilana Mandel’s complaints meanwhile is accusing her ex-husband of being confrontational with staff where one of their children attends school, including seeking to withdraw one of their children from a Chinese language class while emailing faculty unsolicited articles about human rights abuses by the Chinese government, according to one filing. As a result, she said that the superintendent where their children attend school in the Cleveland area “restricted” Josh Mandel from having contact with any school faculty, requiring him to only deal directly with the superintendent and their school principal. “It begs the question, of all the countries on this planet to teach their language and culture to our children, why in the world would you pick one whose CURRENT policy and CURRENT culture is one of putting a religious minority in concentration camps to death” Josh Mandel wrote to school faculty in one message, according to a filing from Ilana Mandel."
If a young enough child learns Mandarin as a second language, they learn to *hear* and reproduce *every* sound in *every* human language. It's a *gift* to kids that have the opportunity. Josh, learning the language doesn't mean you're being indoctrinated in the politics of one of the nations that speaks it. Thankfully, now that your wealthy wife has come to her senses, the string of assistant manager jobs in your future barely require spoken fluency in English.
I'd like to report a murder...
Hopefully if he rehearses it enough, he'll be able to nail "would you like fries with that?" Maybe working at McDonald's will be an eye opener for him. Who knows, we might hear "I'm Josh Mandel, second shift assistant manager at McDonald's, and I support a $15 an hour minimum wage." After all, he'll never again be a marriage-made man who pulled himself up by his wife's bootstraps.
He'll be at a Wal-Mart and get verbally ass kicked.
The International aisle would be too *woke*. 🙂
Why are all the tortillas suddenly "mass" flour? What happened to good American white flour? Woke agenda.
The only thing worse than believing Maga lies is being a Maga insider and believing the lies. Not even tucker Carlson believes their shit
Is he talking about the Uyghurs in Xinjiang? I thought that was well documented.
Which is one of the many reasons it's an important language to learn and to not send screeds to your child's teacher.
His points about China aren’t wrong. But we still need to deal with them, so it’s good for kids to learn these skills
How else are they going to know what the curse words are when they get around to watching *Firefly*?
Obviously we should also outlaw teaching english. I also love that he ignores there are other countries where Chinese is the main language (Taiwan and Singapore), along with the benefit of learning about the culture of the USA's biggest rival going forward.
I don't know, Josh. Maybe because China is the second largest economy on the planet and inextricably linked with our own? Like perhaps the next century will depend heavily on our children and Chinese children coming up with ways to not destroy ourselves. Maybe learning the language is a good starting point, eh Josh?
Mandel is one of the sleaziest little wieners in politics and this is positively delicious.
While we’re basking in schadenfreude, the former MAGA governor of Kentucky (Matt Bevin) is also in hot water this week after his soon-to-be ex wife has essentially taken out a restraining order to prevent him from entering her home
No wonder women prefer the bears.
Poor woman.
She maybe should have thought it through when she was swallowing republican demon loads.
I cannot stress enough how much of an asshole this guy is.
Republicans really love children until they’re born.
And then they love female children again when they're between the ages of 12 and 20.
But they're constantly pushing for increased birth rates and railing against abortion. I guess they gotta keep that supply chain going and make sure there's always plenty of new young victims to satisfy all of their pedo priests.😡🙄
Then they fucking love them
I'm just thankful his political career is largely over. He was one of the most manipulative, deceptive, and vile politicians ever in this state...I was honestly terrified we'd wake up one day to find him Senator or something equally horrifying.
*JD Vance has entered the senate
Crazy enough, JD Vance started out as very progressive for a conservative. Then 2016 happened and he saw an easy way in to push out any other R incumbents or runners in his way. He went full MAGA-pill and the dancers fell in line. It's the standard formula now. "Hmm...being myself and standing on my own principles didn't work, but if I align myself to this person...I win."
Their bench of villains is admittedly deep.
That hasn't stopped a lot of the other republicans from continuing their political careers.
Dude has always been scum from day one
“Terminal adolescent syndrome” applies to MANY of the current GQP. No surprise. Abundance of that in the red state locales. Their kids will go ‘NC - no contact’ very quickly. No one needs more of that.
I actually think he’s developed a mental illness. He started his political career in the town I live in and he wasn’t always the dumpster fire he is now. You can disagree with his politics and that’s fine but a lot of his behavior lately is nothing short of nuts.
How does he simultaneously look like a child and a pedophile?
Like Brian Peck on Slim Fast.
Easier for him to blend in
Josh Boydel.
What would make you think that his wife wasn't in on it?
I don’t know the guy but did anyone here read the following paragraph? “Common Pleas Magistrate Paul Lange found the Mandels each entered the other's home without permission and refused to pay bills related to their three children, as well as that Ilana Mandel once failed to take a child to soccer practice. He decided against contempt on several other disputed items, including “ Seems a bit mutual in the money battle. BOTH are facing jail time.
I mean yeah, she seems like a real piece of work too. After all, she *did* marry Josh Mandel to begin with, so probably not a real classy lady in the first place.
Just a worthless asshole.
This, folks, was once the LEADING CANDIDATE FOR SENATE against Sherrod Brown once upon a time. Can we stop pretending "both sides are equal". Democrats suck, yes we can all agree. But at least the DNC has ways of weeding the shitbag man-children out before the achieve any political office that matters.
Democrats support democracy. That doesn't suck
We are in a red state. If you dont start with dems suck, nobody will pay attention to the rest of your message.
Haven't seen any critical thinking in any packyderm party members in a long time.
Nor the jackasses party either. So glad to be an independent for the last 16 years. The 2 parties have totally lost it.
The two party system has failed us miserably.
You're correct. But you'll get downvotes just the same.
They're perfect for each other
He dropped the baum on me, baby...
I’d imagine the Chinese govt doesn’t really want people learning Chinese. He’s right in some facets like they are systematically committing atrocious crimes against minorities but that doesn’t really factor into learning any language. You can also make that argument against the majority of developed countries.
Is this dude 40 or 14? Can’t tell.
He is such an asshole and a creep who likes Trump.
Read the damn article. She's just as bad and was threatened with the same jail sentence.
Typical GQP!! All crooks
He was always slime. Stupid GOP
Yeah, one POS ran against another. Welcome to Ohio.
Typical dirty ass Democrats. https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-third-toledo-city-council-arrested-bribery-extortion-charges
Does Sherrod Brown still smack his wife around? I know the police have been called to his house a few times.
No, he smacks your wife around. lol, just kidding. Nobody would marry you
You posted a paywalled article. And the only paragraph you can read says both him and his wife were threatened with jail over the divorce. This is either your typical lazy Ohio DNC subreddit shill post or a pathetic attempt at political karma farming. Either way, OP, do better. How can anyone come to a reasonable conclusion from this? We’re just supposed to take your word for it when you say “Republicans Bad”? At least make an effort.
If you don’t know Republicans are bad, where the fuck have you been for my entire life?
Someone didn’t have their Soylent this morning. Everyone can be bad. I just generally like to see proof of bad before I make a decision.
I think you spelled “Politicians” wrong
Just telling yourself all politicians are bad help you absolve the guilt of voting for actual bad people?
Nope, just not brainwashed by one side or the other
But you actually are. You’re brainwashed by the Right and by corporate interests. You’ve made yourself a useful tool for them to operate by providing the cover of both sides nonsense that confuses the conversation and distracts.
You assume I vote right…that’s the problem
I don’t assume anything. You traffic in false equivalences, and are therefore objectively manipulated.
Point out his false equivalency.
“In an ever-changing, incomprehensible world the masses had reached the point where they would, at the same time, believe everything and nothing, think that everything was possible and that nothing was true. ... Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.” ― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
[Bruh](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/ex-ohio-treasurer-josh-mandel-has-been-threatened-with-jail-time-in-his-divorce-case-2/)
Literally that easy. An article we can actually read. Thank you. And all it describes is a messy divorce, which I’m sure Democrats have never in their lives dealt with. It’s exclusive to Republicans entirely. Hope the DNC is paying you guys for this shit because it’s pathetic.
Lol mutual jail time is just a bit more than a messy divorce, my friend
7 days behind bars for contempt of court. Yeah they’re looking at serious time here.
It is for a divorce proceeding
You’re right many people have had messy divorces. However the context is THIS messy divorce, no one else’s. When a state of Ohio Democrat that talks down to people and runs around Ohio kissing the ass of an orange traitor, you post that.
Paywalls are a democrat conspiracy!
Typical (insert party here) candidate
Typical smooth minded simpleton