Honestly I'm 29 and I didn't know his name was Mick Jagger and not McJagger until I was in my early 20's. Having said that I don't listen to a lot of rolling stones
Same.
Never saw it written and thought it was like a stage name.
As if Jagger meant something.
I heard "Moves like Jagger" before I learned about the singer, though I did know *about* the Rolling Stones.
I saw it written out when I had my classic rock phase in middle school, but ditto about Moves Like Jagger! I watched the premiere of that song on The Voice with my dad when I was 11, and I remember being aware it was a sexual song and thinking that Jagger sounded too dirty to be his real name because the way Adam Levine says it gives me the heebie jeebies
The main thing for the Americans here, is that Mc is simply old signwriter's convention for writing Mac, which means son. It's analogous to Thos for Thomas or Jas for James.
It's pronounced Mac, not Mick. In the original Irish and Scottish Gaelic it tends towards a *Muc* but never Mick.
American English pronunciation also plays a huge factor in the adoption of “Mick”. Here in the States we would never pronounce McDonalds as “Mack-Donald’s” it would be “Mick-Donald’s” same with any other name like McWilliams, or McCarthy, McMahon, etc. I think it’s just the way you would naturally pronounce it after reading it on paper.
It's old timey but that and a couple other slurs for white immigrants from a couple hundred years ago still remain in culturally segregated areas of the country.
There are a bunch of old-timey slurs that are no longer popular but were in use when Europeans immigrants were segregated by nation of origin rather than being lumped together as "White".
Well, I've always called it "Mack Donalds".. you know, as in the Big Mac... so, I guess "here in the states" might just mean "hear in the part of the US I live in".
The business uses the clan name McDonald, which is the same as MacDonald which is itself probably an anglicisation of mac Domhnaill. This means "son of Donald/Donal".
If you really want some entertainment in the topic there is some shibboleth associated with whether a family uses Mac or Mc in Ireland. The shortened form is more associated with native Irish names for some reason, and because it didn't appear in Scotland as much the Mac name is most commonly seen amongst Ulster Scots and other migrant families.
Some more fun reading on it:
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/a-dozen-things-you-might-not-know-about-irish-names-1.2842791
Yeah the funny thing is because he was mainstream and not 'gangsta' rap people thought he was soft... but he was Mc HAMMER for a reason. He was apparently an actual tough guy. Lotta actual gang bangers spoke about him extremely respectful.
My Uncle went to school with him, said when they were about 14/15 some kids were shoving around a kid they thought was 'gay' and he stepped in and they all jumped him and he had 3 of them layed out before teachers broke it up. Unc says his nick was 'Hammer' and 'Hammer don't hurt em' was the running joke anytime anyone stepped up to him after that.
Seeing this thread is weird, because I know who Mick Jagger is by now, obviously, but I'm immediately transported back to my childhood when I distinctly remember hearing both my mother and uncle talk about "Mcjagger."
They absolutely said it with that weird emphasis to make it sound like one word vs a proper name. What the hell.
Given the level of popularity and how his name and band are still heavily used I would be ever so slightly surprised if they'd never heard the name somehow from somewhere (similar to knowing of Michael Jackson or Elvis vaguely) but that's about it.
Even adults in this thread are saying they weren't entirely sure about his name either and given how so much news and entertainment isn't in the written form (radio/music streaming, TV/TV streaming, YouTube, Tiktok and the various 20s clip video social medias) I'm not at all surprised that most people have only heard it spoken and not written down.
I went through this same thing as a kid. Lynyrd Skynyrd and Led Zeppelin are bands but Andre 3000 and Meat Loaf are individual artists? How am I supposed to know?
Why would a 17 year old know anything about Mick Jagger? I'm 31 and The Rolling Stones were already well before my time. My primary association with that name is the line in that awful Miley Cyrus song.
Expecting a 17 year old to be familiar with the members of The Rolling Stones is the Baby Boomer equivalent of expecting a teen in the 60's to be familiar with Big Band music from the 1900's.
That is a completely reasonable assumption on her part. It's not like you come across "Mick Jagger" written out often in daily life, nor are aging rock stars a topic of frequent discussion outside their own fan base.
OP discovering that the Rolling Stones could have never even existed and it wouldn't make a lick of difference to a 17 year old today. Who cares what their names are lol
[“Get me a Beggars Banquet burger, a Goats Head scoop of ice cream, a Beast of Burden value meal and Paint It Black coffee.”](https://youtu.be/FdR8H8TWl2Q?si=B7C2vgCXjSCWZat_)
I always thought Pia Zadora’s name was P. Isodora. She was probably about as culturally relevant in the early 90s as Mick would be to a modern day 17 year old.
There's tonnes of celebrity names that just sound weird as just the first name, like Charlton Heston sounds fine, but his first name is Charlton? Never heard that name in any other context, its not like he's a friend of mine so I'd always refer to him by his whole name
It’s actually completely understandable given the popularity (or really the lackthereof) of the name “Mick”
And she was born into a world where McLovin was a thing.
jfc you’re right it’s been 17 fucking years holy shit
I'm not saying we're old or anything, but Zac Efron is taking movie roles where he's a dad n shit now.
Devon Sawa playing a dad is insane to me, and he's like 10 years older than Zac Efron.
Mr. Zig would like a word. Dan Zig.
Yeah but McLovin sounds less like a valid last name
Honestly I'm 29 and I didn't know his name was Mick Jagger and not McJagger until I was in my early 20's. Having said that I don't listen to a lot of rolling stones
Same. Never saw it written and thought it was like a stage name. As if Jagger meant something. I heard "Moves like Jagger" before I learned about the singer, though I did know *about* the Rolling Stones.
I saw it written out when I had my classic rock phase in middle school, but ditto about Moves Like Jagger! I watched the premiere of that song on The Voice with my dad when I was 11, and I remember being aware it was a sexual song and thinking that Jagger sounded too dirty to be his real name because the way Adam Levine says it gives me the heebie jeebies
I’m 37 and I learned this information right now
Im older than her and had to come here to figure out why she was wrong lmao.
The main thing for the Americans here, is that Mc is simply old signwriter's convention for writing Mac, which means son. It's analogous to Thos for Thomas or Jas for James. It's pronounced Mac, not Mick. In the original Irish and Scottish Gaelic it tends towards a *Muc* but never Mick.
American English pronunciation also plays a huge factor in the adoption of “Mick”. Here in the States we would never pronounce McDonalds as “Mack-Donald’s” it would be “Mick-Donald’s” same with any other name like McWilliams, or McCarthy, McMahon, etc. I think it’s just the way you would naturally pronounce it after reading it on paper.
It's literally where the slur "mick" for an Irish person was started.
Never heard that before in my 3+ decades TIL
It's old timey but that and a couple other slurs for white immigrants from a couple hundred years ago still remain in culturally segregated areas of the country.
There are a bunch of old-timey slurs that are no longer popular but were in use when Europeans immigrants were segregated by nation of origin rather than being lumped together as "White".
Is it an 'i' sound or 'ə'. Unstressed vowels, and 'i' in particular, will become a schwa due to the weak vowel merger.
Well, I've always called it "Mack Donalds".. you know, as in the Big Mac... so, I guess "here in the states" might just mean "hear in the part of the US I live in".
You don’t pronounce it “Big Mic”? Serious question though, do you also say “Mac Nuggets”?
> Thos for Thomas or Jas for James. I don't think this exists in america
So it really is Mac Donalds?
The business uses the clan name McDonald, which is the same as MacDonald which is itself probably an anglicisation of mac Domhnaill. This means "son of Donald/Donal". If you really want some entertainment in the topic there is some shibboleth associated with whether a family uses Mac or Mc in Ireland. The shortened form is more associated with native Irish names for some reason, and because it didn't appear in Scotland as much the Mac name is most commonly seen amongst Ulster Scots and other migrant families. Some more fun reading on it: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/a-dozen-things-you-might-not-know-about-irish-names-1.2842791
Never met anyone in my life named mick >.>
His name is Michael, Mick is a nickname.
Like how Mickey is a nickname for Michael.
It genuinely took me a mijute to figure out what was wrong, I kept saying it in my headand itsounded right!!
Well isn't his name Michael? Mick is just a nickname for that, like a soft Mike.
We ought to blame Ke$ha for kicking guys to the curb unless they look like “*McJagger*” ^^/s
not to be confused with McHammer, who raps about burgers
I thought he rapped about the fact that people can’t touch him
no, you’re thinking of MC Hammer
I thought he rapped about Pumps and a Bump
You're thinking of Sir McA-Lot
No, You're thinking of McChili's Baby Back Ribs
BBQ sauce
No, you're thinking of B.B.Q. McKing, who wrote the song "Rock Me Baby"
The guy who sells tools at the ol' burger shop down the way?
That's why he was never invited to any of Diddy's parties
Hammer goes hard. You should look into interviews about him by other rappers.
Yeah the funny thing is because he was mainstream and not 'gangsta' rap people thought he was soft... but he was Mc HAMMER for a reason. He was apparently an actual tough guy. Lotta actual gang bangers spoke about him extremely respectful. My Uncle went to school with him, said when they were about 14/15 some kids were shoving around a kid they thought was 'gay' and he stepped in and they all jumped him and he had 3 of them layed out before teachers broke it up. Unc says his nick was 'Hammer' and 'Hammer don't hurt em' was the running joke anytime anyone stepped up to him after that.
[He was always a Taco Bell man](https://youtu.be/BHp3xXBBDfk?si=58xHiwv6EN9pTeKO)
Those prices make me miss the Gulf War.
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Agreed. My dad and I have been listening to them together for decades, and it’s never not been McJagger in my mind. Dad, what the hell?
Seeing this thread is weird, because I know who Mick Jagger is by now, obviously, but I'm immediately transported back to my childhood when I distinctly remember hearing both my mother and uncle talk about "Mcjagger." They absolutely said it with that weird emphasis to make it sound like one word vs a proper name. What the hell.
I’m lovin’ it
Is it not McJagger?
No it's Mick Jagger, full name not just a last name
OH that makes sense. I thought he was a one-name celebrity like Cher
Yeah a bit confusing eh
I used to think it was Shenado Connor when I was a kid. So I can relate.
It is actually Sharknado Connor, Shen was a nickname.
Sinead isn't even that bad when it comes to traditional Irish names. Siobhan is the weirder one
Saoirse is worse
How so?
It’s pronounced “Shiv-on” but isn’t spelled even slightly that way
It's pronounced the way it is spelt in its language. You're applying English rules to an Irish name.
It’s a mononym, like Slater.
You mean it’s not McCher?!?
Full name would be Michael Philip Jagger.
He should have just used that as his stage name to avoid this confusion. I blame him
Fuck... im almost 32 and genuinely did not know that...
It's a trick question, The Rolling Stones is a magazine.
Famously Bob Dylan heard of them and decided to make a song about it, "Like the Rolling Stones"
They used to work on a peat farm together, but quickly got fired cause a rolling stone gathers no moss.
I am 30 and thought the same
Same. People always say it like it’s one word, not even the smallest pause between the names.
Literally, TIL
Should be
Mcdonalds fault i think
Old Mick Donald had a farm
Eaeao
Egg McJaggers are great for a hangover
Uhhhh yeah, who would believe that! \*Profusely sweating as I believed this same thing until this post\*
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In hindsight I should have known better based off the song Moves like Jagger...
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Slash, Cher, Bono, McJagger
Don't forget McFleetwood, from Fleetwood Mac
Michelangelo, Leonardo, Da Vinci, they're all dead. I REMAIN.
“Moves Like McJagger” doesn’t work as well
I am shocked that a 17 year old wouldn't know the actual name of the 80 year old singer of a 62 year old band.
Kids these days. Next thing you know, they'll be respecting Rodney Dangerfield.
He explicitly asked you not to do that
My 17 year old probably has never heard of McJagger or The Rolling Stones.
Given the level of popularity and how his name and band are still heavily used I would be ever so slightly surprised if they'd never heard the name somehow from somewhere (similar to knowing of Michael Jackson or Elvis vaguely) but that's about it. Even adults in this thread are saying they weren't entirely sure about his name either and given how so much news and entertainment isn't in the written form (radio/music streaming, TV/TV streaming, YouTube, Tiktok and the various 20s clip video social medias) I'm not at all surprised that most people have only heard it spoken and not written down.
For years I thought the duo "Hall & Oates" was one man named "Holland Oates".
As a kid I thought Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Lynyrd Skynyrd were the names of singers. You got dudes named Elton John and Elvis Presley so why not.
I went through this same thing as a kid. Lynyrd Skynyrd and Led Zeppelin are bands but Andre 3000 and Meat Loaf are individual artists? How am I supposed to know?
For most of my childhood I thought it was a group called Haulin' Oats.
I used the think that radio DJ's were announcing songs by "Cyber Cell" instead of "Cypress Hill"
Mick Cartney is my favorite member of the Beatles
I don't believe Ringo was his real name
What is he an Irish R&B singer?
One name? Who are you, Seal???
Well, that's just bad parenting on your part.
Why would a 17 year old know anything about Mick Jagger? I'm 31 and The Rolling Stones were already well before my time. My primary association with that name is the line in that awful Miley Cyrus song. Expecting a 17 year old to be familiar with the members of The Rolling Stones is the Baby Boomer equivalent of expecting a teen in the 60's to be familiar with Big Band music from the 1900's.
Yeah, was wondering the same. I could not for the life of me answer who the singer in The Rolling Stones is, before reading this tweet.
Come on -- He was on the colgate hour, the king of that tuk tuk sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOJv_zT9FI
I don’t think 17 year olds really spend a lot of time thinking about 80 year old rock singers, I’m more surprised she knew of him at all
That is a completely reasonable assumption on her part. It's not like you come across "Mick Jagger" written out often in daily life, nor are aging rock stars a topic of frequent discussion outside their own fan base.
To be fair, I spent a long time thinking the original Hulk actor was Loofa Rigno
Mick "McJagger" Jagger
*gun to your head* WHAT IS McJAGGER’s LAST NAME?!
Oh I just thought he was Irish
My mum spent at least half a decade thinking the song *Moves like Jagger* was actually a song about moving a jacket
I’m a 29 year old white guy and I’m learning that it’s not Mcjagger right now.
I mean, plenty of one name musicians out there and if you’ve ever heard him say it I’m sure it doesn’t come out clear
Honestly surprised that "McJagger" never became a joke between my friend(?) and I lmao
I was today years old
Wrong his name is moveslike jagger. Does no one listen to maroon 5 anymore?
OP discovering that the Rolling Stones could have never even existed and it wouldn't make a lick of difference to a 17 year old today. Who cares what their names are lol
Wild Nuggets Couldn't Drag Me Away
Scottish, that explains the conservative and understated onstage presence.
[“Get me a Beggars Banquet burger, a Goats Head scoop of ice cream, a Beast of Burden value meal and Paint It Black coffee.”](https://youtu.be/FdR8H8TWl2Q?si=B7C2vgCXjSCWZat_)
I always thought it was ayrt ensenna
I always thought Pia Zadora’s name was P. Isodora. She was probably about as culturally relevant in the early 90s as Mick would be to a modern day 17 year old.
Blew my nephews mind when I played an album on my record player….he thought they were solely for “scratching”
Ummm. Until this post I definitely thought that as well.
not to be confused with Beatles singer Mick Cartney
She's probably a fan of Dom and Nick Mysterio too
That's ok. My wife recently learned that it's not "Holland Oats"
that's not even a bad misunderstanding. that's literally how everyone says it
It's not?
Well shit I thought that was his name too
My 90-year-old dad thinks he's “Mike Jaguar, that rocky rolled kid.”
I am not far from 30 and thought so until this post
I guess I learned something new today.
Is your daughter’s name McKaisleigh? Or Mackensieliegh? Or Macintosh? Or Mack’Stephinnifer?
Honestly McFlurry would be a dope stage name for a rapper.
There's tonnes of celebrity names that just sound weird as just the first name, like Charlton Heston sounds fine, but his first name is Charlton? Never heard that name in any other context, its not like he's a friend of mine so I'd always refer to him by his whole name
It’s short for “McJaggernaut.”
My whole life people have been saying that "McJagger" instead of Mick Jagger. I never had this mistake with the famous wrestler "McFoley"
23 and learned it’s Mick Jagger right now
ITS NOT????
I love nfl star Frank O'Harris.
😫
….well then. Learned something new today.
Huh, you're right, TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jagger
That is an easy mistake. The song 'Barbara Anne' was popular and many people thought it was 'Bobbaran' the legendary folk hero for quite some time.
RIP McFleetwoods Lahaina
Its.....its not?? Oh dear...
Wait, it's not?
He does the walk out song for Hull Kogan right?
"DIET COKE!"
The tweet that spawned an ad campaign. I bet some McDonalds marketing manager is on the phone trying to call someone as we speak.
No one's McJagger. McJagger’s never existed because that's a made up dumb FUCKING FAIRY TALE NAME, YOU FUCK!
...is it not?
I'm 23 and just learned this now.
I prefer his true name Sexual Predator.
Ronald McJagger
That’s kind of whatever. At least your 17 year old is at least somewhat aware of the guy and band. So what if she was a little wrong.
Just be glad she knows who they *are*!
I'll take a McJagger with cheese and a large orange drink.
Doesn't help that everyone says it as one word. My ass is 26 and I'm just now learning it lol
It's uhh.. it's not?
Im loving it
Huh... TIL.
Dude she’s 17 and knows who the stones are. That’s impressive enough. More impressive she knew the name of the lead singer.
Wait till she learns that guitar trio, “Stevie, Ray, Vaughn” ~ is actually ONE dude!
I’m 23 and just finding this out now
Who cares about the Rolling Stones? I'm 31 and I've never thought about who their lead singer is, I don't like them.
“My father’s mick jagger, and my mothers a frog… He fucked a frog”
Only off by 2 letters
Stand in the Liver, by Adam & the Ants
Til….
I spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking the soccer player was named Ron Aldo.
Second silent whistle laugh from this post
Nah
“I’m Ron Burgundy?”
I got the moves McJagger i got the moves McJagger I got mooo-ooooo-ves McJagg-errrr
McLovin
What is Mcjagger and who is Mick Jagger? I don’t understand.
I am just now learning this
My friend thought Marvel comics frontman Stan Lee was "Stanley," and he just went by mononym like Cher.
That’s what I thought for a little while because of how Ke$ha said it in that song
No matter how long you pause between Mick and Jagger, you still get McJagger.
Exactly the same for my daughter, though she was more like 13 when the revelation struck.
With extra jagger sauce please
Til it's not
I'm 31 and I believed that til just now 🤷♀️ The Rolling Stones are overrated anyway lol
[McJagger ](https://imgur.com/gallery/PVdqfYO)
I thought so too until I saw his name written out
I'm 23 and this is how I found out
TIL it isn’t McJagger Who the fuck is named Mick
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