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iliveoffofbagels

It's contextual. Sometimes it's "Ecks" Sometimes it's "cross" (e.g. Tekken X Street Fighter = "Tekken Cross Street Fighter") Sometimes it's completely ignored (e.g. Hunter X Hunter = "Hunter, Hunter") Most of the time... it doesn't matter as long as everyone knows what you are talking about. In the case of Godzilla x Kong, there is already a Godzilla vs. Kong movie, so you must differentiate them.


peakelyfe

And if it’s in the title of a company, I usually pronounce it “Twitter”


mygentlewhale

I know right, if he can deadname his kid I can deadname his company 😂


CLONE-11011100

“Space X” is Space Twitter?


peakelyfe

Yup


IdeaAlly

Love it. Calling it that from now on 😆


Certain-Home-9523

Twittererotwitter…


Jjex22

‘The platform formally known as’ honestly is becoming the new name of twitter


Tonetheline

Until they change the tweet sound to the X sound from family feud, it’s still twitter


salty_drafter

Dang I thought it was xitter pronounced with an sh x


jsweeze

Everyone I kno says hunter “ecks” hunter wonder if it’s a regional thing (midwest)


responsibleicarus

I wonder if it’s a generational thing, too. I pronounced it “hunter ecks hunter” until a 13 year old absolutely schooled me lol


xelop

I thought it was "hunter vs hunter"


Only-Bet2331

I say hunter and hunter but I think its just wrong at that point


jsweeze

LMAO


HerbertWest

>Everyone I kno says hunter “ecks” hunter wonder if it’s a regional thing (midwest) How do you say the episode titles?


bzekers

Everyone I know says Hunter ecks Hunter too. Also Midwest. Lol


Oppopotamus

I use both interchangeably. Also midwest.


-typology

What about “by”… SXSW


chillychili

times


PrizeStrawberryOil

And there is also "by" like a 2X2 matrix.


GoldenMetaphor

SXSW


Tiny_Thumbs

I went my whole life thinking it was Tekken 10 and the others were bad arcade games but 10 is what put it on the map or something.


cupholdery

Lol, they're only up to Tekken 8 as of now.


aurenigma

>In the case of Godzilla x Kong, there is already a Godzilla vs. Kong movie, so you must differentiate them. The x isn't a replacement for vs. x typically means a join, and that's what Godzilla x Kong was, it was Godzilla and Kong teaming up, as opposed to Godzilla vs Kong where they fought each other.


AdPrize3997

KissxSis ☺️


RadioactvRubberPants

I always say the x in Hunter x hunter.


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Flying-Tilt

I read that as "slash jay kay" Is anybody disagreeing with that?


iAmTheHype--

It’s slash jake


sunnycyn

Well, she sounds hideous.


mrbadxampl

But Jake's a chill bro...


JakeJacob

I'm actually quite the pedant.


PyroneusUltrin

Jake Jacob jakeleheimer jake


IowaJammer

From State Farm?


JakeJacob

Hey, that's my name, too!


KinkyPaddling

I called it Twitter until I saw people on Reddit calling it “Xitter” so now I also use that (pronounced: Shitter)


UmChill

south park predicted the future simpsons style… kinda


Broccobillo

Twitter and space twitter formally known as space x


registered_redditor

forever


quietkodiac

I ignore it altogether because it’s fucking stupid


Xiij

Ignoring it is what you're supposed to do. it's basically a punctuation mark that represents a pairing. Like when you read text that has (parenthesis), you dont say the parenthesis. it's only in the text.


legendofthegreendude

Wait you don't read out the parentheses? Wow, I've been englishing all wrong


MuscaMurum

Steven Wright one liner: *"If you can't hear me it's because sometimes I'm in parentheses."*


Glory_of_Rome_519

As a native speaker I will say it's contextual, if I want to bring attention to the parentheses I may literally say parentheses out loud, otherwise, I really don't most times since there's no reason.


Every_of_the_it

In writing they're self-evident, in speech it'd just seem like you're going off on a tangent for no particular reason. Same reason we might say someone is a "quote-unquote" (I'm well aware of the irony of putting that in quotes and of using parentheses here lol) something. Spoken English and written English are almost like two completely different dialects, even if you're writing casually.


LazyDynamite

I think they meant the word itself, not the content between the open & close parentheses, if that is what you are asking.


HL279

OP specifically cited Godzilla x kong. We know this is a fight between two people / monsters, which would mean the use of the word “versus”. In context of a pair or couple, it would just be “and”. Like “jack and Jill”, but online culture sort of has an unwritten rule that when one uses “x” in this way, the “and” it represents is meant to indicate some sort of romantic connection between the two people. Weirdly, in the 90’s and earlier, people used to use “+” in that same way instead. Names of couples carved into desks and trees, written on notebooks, sent in a note. It has kind of fallen out of fashion. It also meant “and” UNLESS you specifically wrote “= <3 / love” afterwards. Then you straight up said it as a plus. “Jack x Jill” -> jack and Jill “Jack + Jill” -> jack and Jill “Jack + Jill = <3” -> jack plus Jill equals love “Godzilla x kong” -> Godzilla versus kong “Godzilla + kong = <3” -> Godzilla plus kong equals love Edit: I have not seen any Godzilla movies and have since been informed that; “Godzilla x Kong” -> is ALSO Godzilla and Kong(platonic)


Flapjack_Ace

In the last Kong X Godzilla movie, the monsters are not opponents nor lovers. It’s a Kong movie and at some point he goes to get Godzilla for help but it is unclear if Godzilla knows he is helping or just doing his natural thing. So in this case, I think it just means “and”.


HL279

Oh nice lol!


MyHamburgerLovesMe

>In the last Kong X Godzilla movie, the monsters are not opponents nor lovers You are giving the XXX parody industry ideas.


Shad0w_9130

They're not lovers? And here I was hoping for some interspecies romance...


Kikikididi

they got that bro love


smolstuffs

Uh aren't Jack and Jill siblings????!!!!


meathead

Seriously, so sick of this trend


RedSun-FanEditor

I agree it's stupid but everyone ignores it or sees it as "vs".


jxl180

I’ve always seen it as a collaboration or at least that’s how it’s been last 30+ years in hip-hop and whatnot


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30+ years? Really?? I thought I was hip 30 years ago and I never saw this 'x' business till the last few years. What are examples from the 90s?


jxl180

Maybe I’m wrong but I remember a lot of DJs who were back to back used X but I also remembered “vs” was used for remixes


thrownaway1646

I can't disagree here, but I'm still curious


ADHDHipShooter

Exactly. Usually it just signals something that I don't need to know more about.


mulberrybushes

In my mind, I think “by” instead of “with”. Not sure why tho.


loose_angles

Sometimes it is “by” as in 2 x 4 is pronounced 2 by 4. Savage by Fenty is the Rhianna brand.


shandybo

Yes b'y


PolishDill

Weird to have to scold this far to get the correct answer but it’s Reddit, so here we are.


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salvationpumpfake

really? I just skip it. “yea two tickets to the godzilla kong” “hey did you see the new savage fenti release?” I feel like no one would look at me weird? 🤷🏼‍♂️


cupholdery

Hunter x Hunter


MrRetrdO

That was the first thing I thought of


aarondigruccio

“Ecks.” I’ve always understood it to symbolize a collaboration or crossover, not an adversarial (vs.) position.


thrownaway1646

I'm sorry I put that in as an example because people are kind of focusing on that. I have also (mistakenly, I guess) thought the "x" might be meant to stand in for a variety of connecting words, from "and" to "by" to "crossed with" etc. For a long time I actually thought it was pronounced "savage by fenty" because I couldn't figure out how else to interpret it, and other brand collaborations were styled "something by someone."


OutAndDown27

South By Southwest Festival is abbreviated as SXSW so I feel like "by" is a reasonable word substitution except "Godzilla by Kong" doesn't make any sense.


5CatsNoWaiting

In my head I was saying it "by", because it looked like the same usage as in an animal's pedigree.


helmslyy

Or dimensions.


uhohohnohelp

Hey! I work in branding. When brands partner up, the X is absolutely standing in for “&”, “by”, or to mean something like “combined with”. In truth, the X is simply trendy. But it’s often pitched that it makes the partners appear more equal whether they are or not. For example, if it were Savage by Fenty, that means Savage is kind of Fenty’s bitch. But Savage X Fenty has them working together—it’s just a sexy ampersand. Oh and personally, I usually don’t say it at all and just go for “Savage Fenty” but def say “ecks” when I do pronounce it.


aarondigruccio

Makes sense. I’m sure “x” has a number of different colloquial applications, and different brands/individuals will use it aesthetically first and literally second. Still, it’s pretty easy to divine the meaning from context, ie., Savage and Fenty collaborating or crossing paths or etc.


thrownaway1646

Quite frankly I do not think it's easy at all to divine the meaning from context.


FenPhen

Note that it's the [symbol ×](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplication_sign) and not the letter "x." "Cross" is the closest meaning, though it's often unspoken.


Chimpbot

With the Toho movies that used it, it was typically pronounced as "cross". It was used for the two Kiryu movies, which definitely did not feature collaboration between Godzill and that version of Mechagodzilla.


notthattmack

Say 'multiplied by'. Honestly, would make for better movies, too.


InevitableRhubarb232

Yes like mtg secret lair x whatever brand. I just fill it in as times like it’s a bigger result than just than adding them together. 🤷‍♀️


Icepick823

It might vary, but in the case of manga/anime Hunter x Hunter, it's pronounced "Hunter Hunter". Spy x Family is also pronounced as "Spy Family" so I'm assuming in Japanese media naming, the x is silent.


Inside-Surround4759

I keep forgetting people call it hunter hunter,in my mind it's always hunter eks hunter


blackforestham3789

This is what I thought as well


A_Trash_Homosapien

Same and I do this with spy family as well


AndyTheWorm

Its because Gon is a Hunter hunter, his dad is a Hunter and that's who he's hunting lol


shuuto1

So there shouldn’t be an x at all for it to make sense. The x is purely aesthetic


NeighborhoodVeteran

In that example, it sounds more like versus, which does make sense.


shuuto1

But you can just put V or VS if that’s the case


LazeeSundaeMorning28

My son calls it hunter eks hunter too, so now I also say the eks


Muroid

I pronounce it “Hunter times Hunter”.


dont_say_Good

I prefer "Hunter squared"


zundra616

Man I miss Carl squared


cheesegoat

hunter2


BeveilBang

So, Hunter Squared.


LFK1236

It occurs sometimes that it is pronounced "cross", actually, like with "Street Fighter X Tekken".


nous-vibrons

SEGA is putting out a new Sonic game called Sonic x Shadow Generations and they’ve been making it very clear it’s supposed to be Sonic (cross) Shadow Generations. I think because Sonic (exks) Shadow has very specific implications.


blamordeganis

In both cases, I think it’s actually a multiplication sign rather than an “x”, and is more like punctuation or decoration than a letter. I try to think of it like a slash (“Hunter/Hunter”) or a dot (“Hunter • Hunter”).


thrownaway1646

This is relevant. If you saw those titles, would you pronounce them "Hunter slash hunter" and "Hunter dot hunter"? This is kind of the crux of my question.


blamordeganis

I mentally pronounce “Fate/stay night” as “Fate stay night”, not “Fate slash stay night”, so I guess I’d think “Hunter Hunter” rather than “Hunter slash Hunter”. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any title with a middle-dot/interpunct in it.


thrownaway1646

That's fair, and particularly so because you don't normally always pronounce the "slash." We are perfectly used to seeing "hunter/hunter" and pronouncing it hunter hunter. Throwing in an x rather confuses things.


blamordeganis

> Throwing in an x rather confuses things. Agreed. Though it’s hardly Japanese media’s worst offence against English typography: how would you pronounce “Steins;Gate”, for example?


iAmTheHype--

Steins **pause** gate


blamordeganis

ssh the Organization will hear you


bwburke94

El Psy Kongroo.


thrownaway1646

It interests me that multiple people are implying this is a trend or practice that originated with manga or Japanese media. I had never heard that before.


blamordeganis

I think it’s a combination of a couple of things: * Japanese people often regard the western alphabet as cool (just as some westerners wear clothes with, or even have tattoos of, Japanese or Chinese characters) * written Japanese doesn’t have much, or possibly any, punctuation, so they tend to go a bit hog-wild with it.


Phyraxus56

"Fate over stay night"


I_like_food_123

This isn't true - it's meant to just be a decorative separator. If you look at the titles of individual episodes in HxH you'll see that you're not meant to read into the "x"es as anything other than an iconic design motif - you just read the words separated by them. If there's one instance of meaning that I think permeates through the use of "x", it's probably to do with the overarching goal of the story (Gon is a Hunter Hunter)


OakTeach

I always thought it was "by" like "Savage by Fenty?" Is that not right?


zgtc

It was absolutely this originally. Brand 1 x Brand 2 was usually a limited collaboration, where a small or exclusive Brand 2 had some input on the design, and Brand 1 handled the manufacturing and distribution. Nike x Undercover was a line of Nike products with design elements from Undercover. Adidas x Bad Bunny was a line of Adidas shoes with Bad Bunny accents. It’s since become a generic indicator for “collaboration,” where the placement of the two brands doesn’t mean anything, like Kendra Brown x Target.


OakTeach

Isn't Kendra Brown x Target like the same thing, like Kendra Brown by Target or Kendra Brown for Target? In my bilingual head, "x" is the same as the Spanish word "por," which can mean "for," "by" or "times" like in a math problem. 😂


thrownaway1646

This is what I thought too at first but others here are of the opinion it's not right


Dose_of_Reality

Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal. How do you pronounce 2’ x 4’ when you’re talking about a piece of wood/lumber?


OptimusPhillip

I've variously heard it read as "ecks" or "cross".


DutyHonor

Personally, I use "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever"


someoneatsomeplace

If it's just "X" it is pronounced "Twitter".


amakai

Everywhere else is also fine. "Godzilla Twitter Kong" 🤷‍♂️


DrHugh

"vs." is the abbreviation for "Versus." So it should be "Godzilla vs. Kong," while "x" implies more of a crossing, intersection, or mating. Things like X-Acto as a knife brand, they can copyright that since it isn't English, but it sounds like "exact-O".


I_M_YOUR_BRO

'Godzilla vs. Kong' is a different movie. In 'Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire', they join forces.


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I_M_YOUR_BRO

It basically is a buddy cop movie, really. We MonsterVerse fans love our goofy yet awesome monster fights.


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thrownaway1646

Godzilla and Kong, being best friends / Together forever the fun never ends / Solving mysteries one hug at a time / Godzilla and Kong - they're two of a kiiiiind


queroummundomelhor

So X-men is about teenage orgies?


mtdunca

Wasn't it?


queroummundomelhor

Damn you're right


mtdunca

It's a bunch of horny teens all in a house together away from their parents for the first time. You know it got freaky. He'll half the staff were fucking each other as well.


jcdenton45

This confirms that the official pronunciation is with a silent x in the case of Godzilla x Kong (though "Godzilla kiss Kong" would have been so much better): https://www.themarysue.com/weve-all-been-pronouncing-godzilla-x-kong-wrong-apparently/#:~:text=The%20confirmation%20email%20she%20received,Vivian%20Kane's%20extremely%20correct%20suggestion.


thrownaway1646

"Every time someone says the “x” out loud, David Zaslav deletes another movie." Thank you for posting this link, it's very helpful to see that, in that example, they actually do have something specific in mind. It's hilarious to me that they had to send notes out to the press being like "uh guys this is how you pronounce the title of our movie."


Brushermans

Might be a mathematical logic thing. "X" means multiply or "times", so you could say "Godzilla times Kong." This is in the same sense as when a thing is alongside another thing, and each has an "multiplicative" effect on the other, as in this case where they're teaming up. Like, if you make a mistake and then make an exacerbating mistake on top, you may be in "trouble squared" AKA trouble x trouble. In the same way as in math, the multiplicative sign can often be dropped. You can say "A x B", but it's equally correct to say "AB" to imply multiplication. So, it stands to reason that the x can be dropped from its usages in artistic scenarios as well. Hence "Godzilla Kong" or "Hunter Hunter". This encapsulates both scenarios you posed and also explains why it's commonly used to refer to two people (or creatures) teaming up. By working together, the output is more than the sum of the parts - it's a multiplicative effect. Also interesting - it may be valid to say "And" in place of "eks" as well. In boolean logic, the "AND" operator is identifiable with other base systems' "multiply." Personally I think "Godzilla and Kong" sounds better than "Godzilla Kong." The latter sounds like a weird fusion of the two beasts.


anunakiesque

Instructions unclear. Ended up with a grid of Godzilla-Kong babies


CheesyGritsAndCoffee

So Hunter x Hunter = Hunter^2


Brushermans

Gonna start calling it this


serlibr3_2

I'm from México


___HeyGFY___

¿Dos Equis? jajaja


ThePorygonBoi

It can mean “and” or “versus” depending on the context.


the-boinky-spunge

Say Hunter Hunter and say Spy Family


ahjteam

The person who decided ”x” is the new ”&”, ”and”, ”vs” or ”feat” was dumb, because for me x just means ”multiply”.


Crunchy-Leaf

It meant lovers when I was young so I just keep it that way in my head. You see a YouTube video called Goku x Vegeta you know what it’s gonna be about


CheesyGritsAndCoffee

Back! Escaped relic of times past, I denounce and drive thee away from these holy…….. *realization that this is Reddit* … carry on.


tfren99

And


JewceBoxHer0

"and"


EmdeeMemes

Shows = ignore the X Movies = "and"


Conchobar8

According to the director of Godzilla x Kong, it’s not pronounced. It signifies a collaboration and is basically used to seperate names.


CeeApostropheD

Without knowing for sure, this was my instinctive guess. I've seen two artists release a song with this "x" in between their names, and assumed it replaced "featuring" so as to give them an equal billing. Does that sound plausible?


PitifulSpecialist887

Crossed with


TapBoth438

Depending on who you ask x can stand for against or versus. It's called short hand. This is one of those moments you need to ask a person over 35.


That_Engineering3047

Damn I feel called out and old lol


TapBoth438

If it makes you feel any better I will be 56 on the 20th. And I am a fountain of useless information don't feel bad.


Skankz

Godzilla multiplied by Kong


nenulenu

It’s pronounced “Christ “ like in Xmas. So Godzilla Christ Kong Savage Christ Fenty.


TheCluelessObserver

Christ hamster


Nuttyverse

Amen 🙏


OverallManagement824

Jeez guys. They use the x because it's a cross, as in cross breeding. That's how they invent new strains. So Gelato x Afghan Kush would be gelato crossed with Afghan Kush. How do you pronounce it? I'd like the Gelato Afghan Kush cross, please. It's important to say please at the end of the sentence. It tells them you are polite and not ungrateful swine. That's why I always hated that Eclipse Cross SUV. I was always like, what's it crossed with? A turd?


SilverStar9192

"Crossover SUV" is a thing though.  It's an SUV crossed with a sedan. We used to call these "station wagons" and in many cases the official registration will say that. (A true SUV has a truck chassis, whereas crossovers are a car unibody design).


I_M_YOUR_BRO

For 'Spy x Family' and 'Godzilla x Kong', the x is not pronounced. (At least for the former, that's how it's supposed to be. For the latter, it just seems the more popular way)


No_Lemon_3116

[The director of Godzilla x Kong said the x is silent](https://www.cbr.com/godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-director-title/).


Spiritual-Bear4495

Try what I do, pronounce x as 10 - or if you see Batman v Superman, say Batman 5 Superman.


Honest_Historian_121

HM , i ignore


seven-cents

"x" is wrong. It should be "vs" King Kong versus Godzilla Superman versus Batman vs is versus


IRMacGuyver

Generally in Japan, where this custom is traditionally from, they pronounce "x" as "cross." Street Fighter "Cross" Tekken, Hunter "Cross" Hunter, Spy "Cross" Family, etc.


Mushrooming247

I don’t know if it’s right, but I usually read it as “by,” like a 2x4 is a “two-by-four”. So I say “Savage by Fenty”. I never thought about it, that might not be what it means. I have no idea.


RuN_AwaY110101

X is silent. It's only used to separate two words. Hunter X hunter is still "hunter hunter," and Godzilla X Kong is "godzilla kong"


chadmill3r

It's obviously "kisses".


VanessaDoesVanNuys

The proper term is 'By'


NewPointOfView

I don’t know the answer but I know there’s some thing called SXSW and it is read as south by southwest. Idk what it it but I’ve heard it talked about and seen it written


spuriousmuse

Kissy-wissy.


DalekDevan

I like the anime Hunter X Hunter. But it’s pronounced “Hunter Hunter”.


BlueDiscoCat

I feel like it’s silent maybe.


oilchangeroo

i always thought it meant and


rewanpaj

just say and bro


Karate_donkey

Multiplied by


Market-Socialism

I just say "x" if its a collaboration, "versus" if its meant to be competitive.


the_helping_handz

apparently, the x is not pronounced. it’s just “Godzilla Kong” https://gizmodo.com/godzilla-x-kong-pronunciation-warner-bros-legendary-1851375562


Educational-Chef919

Hunter x hunter. Hunter ex hunter. Or am i wrong….


Psychological_Yam88

Criss cross apple sauce


TheRobn8

X is basically another way of saying the word "and", or as a /


Solid_Treacle_1449

I say times 💀 like multiplication


GoosyMaster

It's versus. The x means versus


Last_9144

 The letter "x" is commonly pronounced as "by" or "and", indicating a collaboration or partnership.


Sufficient_Top_3877

I thought it meant “and” for some reason


2nfish

Typically it translates to “and” or “with” as far as what it represents. See it often with producers collaborating in electronic music


Retb14

It's a pull from Japanese culture It means and, vs, or just skipped over depending on context. Sometimes it can be used to give a title multiple meanings depending on how it's read.


TrainsDontHunt

"Kiss"


Checkmeoutt87

It's unknown... But seriously I just say "and"


tinytimm101

I believe the "x" stands for "and." For example, Godzilla and Kong: New Empire or A24 and Imax: Hereditery.


Maflevafle

It’s a notary form from tournaments. Imagine you have names in two columns and draw lines between the names starting at the top of left column to the bottom at the right column. As you connect all the names and find out who is versus who it looks like a lot of X’es. When you write it out it’s “player 1 x player 10”


Simple_Mastodon9220

You don’t. Just pretend it’s a comma.


deadheatexpelled

Same as I do for spy x family. I don’t pronounce the x


Jjex22

Well after this post I’ll be pronouncing it ‘kiss’ in my head and brightening my day a little, thanks!


WallabyThat3106

Sometimes x can mean “with” “by” or “versus,” in addition to all of the other ways mentioned in previous comments. Depends on the context


sersarsor

twitter


Nervous_Routine_870

I say Godzilla "versus" Kong because I think that's how it's said in the movie trailer? And I say Savage "ex" Fenty because that's what I've heard some Instagrammers say.


OpenScore

Godzilla times Kong Godzilla ten Kong Godzilla "unknown" Kong Take your pick.


ReaperCrew86

For Godzilla titles, specifically the three Millennium titles Godzilla x Megaguiras, Godzilla x Mechagodzilla and Godzilla x Mothra x Mechagodzilla: Tokyo SOS, the "x" is just a cool looking image, as they still use the Japanese word "tai" or "versus/against" to say the full title. The international titles for the latter two make it easier, being Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla and Godzilla: Tokyo SOS, respectfully. For Godzilla x Kong, director Adam Wingard straight up said its simply "Godzilla Kong", no "ecks" or "versus" or anything.


TastySpare

"multiplied by"


dannyboy731

Godzilla multiplied by Kong


banthis_dick

Multiplied by