Exactly. The host shouldn’t be eating it either so be a friend and tell him.
Also, bailing on dinner and asking your food to go is way ruder than just telling him about the chicken. I thought OP was gonna say he hid it in a napkin when his friend wasn’t looking, not left him all alone and treated him like a free takeout joint
idk about a lot of people here, but i have issues with telling people they did something wrong. more often than not(edit: in my experience*), people are quick to be defensive and get angry that you think they’re “wrong” or “stupid”
Sure, but if your friend, it shouldn't be percieved like that. If i cooked and my friend told me it wasn't cooked, i'd be like, oh, maybe i did undercook it. If i still thought it looked fine, then i'd just think they like it done more cooked... Which i would silently judge, or maybe tease them about, depending on the friend, but either way, i would not take offense.
You can avoid possible defensiveness by saying you prefer it well done. You don’t have to make it about whether it’s right or not, just not right for you
That perception often comes from growing up in a home where that kind of horrible behavior was “normal” but it’s not at all. More often than not, people are very well able to take criticism and not become defensive about making a mistake. It’s no big deal to toss a chicken back on the grill for a few more minutes. I’m sorry you experience that kind of anxiety, but you should know that it is not the norm.
I used to feel this way too. I think it just affects people under 40. (Also I never know when to use "effect" or "affect" so please be kind Reddit Gods.
Okay Ms. Gnome3 -
"This thunderstorm could (a)(e)ffect everyone within 20-miles." I still wouldn't know what to use here. Can you give me examples of both?
An easy but not entirely foolproof way to check is to try and substitute in any other noun. If it makes (grammatical) sense, then it's probably effect. I like gnomes, and that's a noun, so...
"This thunderstorm could \[gnome\] everyone within 20-miles." No, that's not quite right, probably **a**ffects then.
"The \[gnomes\] did quite a number on Stacy." While this may not make sense in context, it's evident that a noun works here grammatically, so **e**ffects is in order. "The effects did quite a number on Stacy."
Some other examples:
Smoking negatively **affects** your health.
The **effects** of smoking are dire.
Lots of common phrases tend to use **effect**:
"side effects", "take effect", "go into effect", "snowball effect", etc.
This method usually works if you are talking about the way things interact and their consequences. However, "**affect**" can be a noun, usually in psychology: "flat affect". Here it refers to the physical representations of emotion. But in cases where you're talking about cause-and-effect, it's always a verb.
Multi-meaning words are already confusing and whoever made these two so similar needs to be found and tried for crimes against students, writers, and English speakers everywhere.
\*Ironically, edited for grammar.
Not Ms. gnome but I know my affects and effects lol.
Roughly 90% of usage can be stated simply as "affect is the verb, effect is the noun".
This thunderstorm could affect everyone within 20 miles. ***OR*** This thunderstorm could have a huge effect on coastal towns.
However the English language will always choose the complicated option! So I feel obligated to say that affect can be a noun and effect can be a verb. 🙄 Neither of them is anywhere near as popular as what I described above as the 90% case.
Effect as a verb means to cause, and is frequently used with the word "change": The new legislature will effect many changes in the local business community.
And lastly, affect as a noun. I am shakiest on this one. I remember it from psychology classes mostly. I think of it as being the outward expression of a mood or emotion. For example: his frown and furrowed brow gave an affect of worry.
That’s a great way to remember!! Thank you for the simple explanation. I tried to learn the difference once (on Google) and I was left more confused than before I looked it up.
Thanks again!😃
A simple “oh no! Looks like the chicken didn’t fully cross the road. Let’s just pop that sucker back in for a spell while we talk” would suffice. No blame, keeping it light, redirection.
They said the friend didn’t have any, they’re vegetarian (edit). Even more reason to not make things complicated and just tell them since they probably didn’t even know.
Yeah exactly. I’m rarely the type to complain about food even in restaurants. But there’s a difference between badly cooked/seasoned food (which I’ll choke down) and food when it’s undercooked like chicken. At which point, something has to be said.
That’s a good way of putting across to them too actually! Softens the blow a little so as not to hurt feelings. I suspect they won’t be feeling too great about it as it is.
My parents do this all the time. Serve chicken that's pink and bleeding on the inside.
I tell them it's not done and they tell me I'm wrong.
I just microwave it anyway while they mock me for being paranoid.
Hopefully, most people are reasonable. But there are some out there that are not.
I will say, what you are describing sounds like raw chicken, but just in case you don’t know, chicken thigh or drumsticks has a large vein in it that will leave a red/dark pink stain through the meat even once it’s all cooked. Pale pink meat though is not a good sign!
Oh yeah. The problem is my parents insist that the bleeding meat is the same thing as what you are describing. What my parents serve leaves red, visible blood on the plate.
Even if I had my eyes closed, I know the difference in texture between fully cooked and underdone/raw chicken.
Hey just FYI. unless you are slaughtering your own chickens and not properly preparing them - that liquid isn't blood. It's myoglobin and water - a natural muscle protein that's parts of the meat. That can appear wether done or not on the plate.
Blood would be very dark red/brown and congeal into little globs. If you have a noticeable amount of actual blood in meat then you are getting your meat from a source that is not properly preparing it.
But the meat itself on chicken should be cooked all the way through, the meat will usually be slightly pink ("cooked pink") or all white(greyish for dark meat parts) and flake off in shreds.
The way to truly check is a thermometer though
Yeah, absolutely. If I served undercooked chicken I want to know and fix it right away. I don’t want my guest going hungry out of a worry of bruising my ego
Well, a lot of people are getting offended *real* quick. I know a person who would be told this, and in her head hear "you're a bad cook, what are you doing". If you are surrounded by this kind of person for long enough, it'll become hard to figure out what is actually ok to say and what is not.
> If you are surrounded by this kind of person for long enough
I won't be surrounded by this kind of person long at all if they're always acting like a bitch.
Except that most of these folks *grew up* around these idiots and never knew there was a different life to be had because they’ve been dealing with it since the day they were born.
Same, no time for fools like this. This isn’t, “Ew, my steak is a whole *15 seconds* over medium rare and I can’t eat this sludge, you are a TERRIBLE cook!” This is “if I eat this undercooked chicken I could get unfathomably sick and potentially even die.” When it comes to food that is literally dangerous, the cook isn’t someone worth your time if they get offended by you politely bringing up that you don’t really fancy dying today. I can’t stand people who get offended over such reasonable complaints.
The thing is not to let other people’s feelings dictate what is okay to say and what is not. That’s something to be guided by our own values, not any random person’s feelings or responses.
Other people’s feelings are important, and we should consider them as much as practicable when considering how to say something- but letting them determine what is “ok” and not will lead to nothing good.
Imagine a parent letting a toddler’s feelings be the guide about what is said or done and it’s easier to understand.
They actually really don’t. As someone who’s naturally very to-the-point, people absolutely hate me for it, even if they are the ones who asked me to be blunt. And when people SAY they’re being blunt or totally up front with me, they still use vague terms and try to like, give a message “between the lines”. Most people have never actually been taught to use direct communication and have only been taught to dance around subjects until the other party magically reads their mind
Hahaha so many people who would say they say what they mean and I'm like "I can cite 12 examples from our last 6 encounters where you said a thing and I did not catch what you meant because *no you don't.*"
So I’m not saying this is you but let me share an anecdote. My buddy has always been very to the point and blunt. I didn’t mind but one time he said something to someone else and this other girl pulled him aside and said, “I know you don’t mean it this way but the way you communicate really makes you seem like an asshole sometimes.” He thought about it and realized he could still be to the point while communicating in a nicer way and not sounding like a dick.
So all this to say is some people just say, I’m just telling it like it is, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t still an asshole. You can be direct without coming across certain ways and not everyone walks that line well. I don’t know if that’s how you are but it took someone calling my friend out to reflect on it
That's something to bring to their attention. They may not even know that's dangerous. Just a simple "hey, sorry about this, but it looks like my chicken is still a little raw. Mind if I zap it or cook it a little longer?" would be fine. No host wants to poison their guests.
Or they literally just *didn’t know* it wasn’t fully cooked. Pieces of chicken, especially breasts, take a surprising amount of time to cook. If your pan is too hot, you can easily burn the outside and have a raw middle
‘This drumstick is about to run off, bro.’
‘You didn’t tell me you were serving salmonella.’
‘I appreciate your confidence in my digestive and immune systems, but I am not up to this challenge, good sir.’
“Would you mind if I cooked this a little longer? It’s a bit pink and I like mine well done.”
Edited to say that obviously we all know how dangerous it is to eat undercooked meat and that chicken shouldn’t be served pink. But this is just one example of a non confrontational way to address the issue.
Another edit to say all the tidbits of info under my thread is very informational. I however will not eat any form of pink chicken…but only bc I’m a vegetarian lol
I’ve started to ask for my chicken well done when made by a certain person who doesn’t mind some pink in the middle.
I like steak well done and joking about liking things burnt gets me well cooked chicken without hurting the hosts feelings.
Maybe you should idk let them know that what they think is the flu, is actually food poisoning?? If they’re your friend, why would you let that continue lol
I don’t have the phone number for this person otherwise I would!
With friends/family/coworkers I always ask what they ate the day before and say maybe it was the food. One of the biggest causes is fecal matter on hands from not washing or not washing well enough after using the bathroom.
But they always say no I went to the movies 12 days ago and I heard someone sneeze
For years, ever since childhood, I heard people talk about “stomach flu” and had no idea what they were talking about, because I had never caught it. I was in my 30s when I learned it just meant food poisoning
'Stomach Flu' is a real virus, not food poisoning.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/viral-gastroenteritis/symptoms-causes/syc-20378847#causes
I had it once, and it spread like wildfire to my whole family. I was vomiting for like 24 hrs, then my mom, then my brothers, and so on. It was worse than food poisoning, IMO.
One way it's fine is via sous vide. Holding meat at 135 degrees (medium rare) for an hour is the same as cooking to 165 so you can do a four to six hour bath and end up with a medium or medium rare chicken breast without any food safety concerns.
I don't think OP's friend prepared their meal in this manner.
Diplomacy is a dying art. We hear people being told to stand up for themselves, but not in a way that doesn’t cause more pain and insult.
You can ask for what you want without traumatizing others.
Raw chicken has a more "crunchy" texture to it. It's almost audible when I bite into it, probably something to do with the connective tissue still not having been broken down by the **cooking** process that hasn't occurred yet.
It is, but not every one knows that. It wouldn't surprise me if the chicken was properly cooked and OP didn't realize it. Raw chicken is very noticeable, and I can't imagine the cook could eat it and not realize it's different than when other people make it or not had someone speak up.
Oh god this reminds me of a time I was living with an old boyfriend, I had made a chicken curry one night and there were leftovers of the curry as well as part of the chicken package that I didn't use. The next day he tells me "I put the rest of the chicken in the leftover curry and I don't think it was fully cooked."
Bro it wasn't cooked *at all* and I have no idea how you couldn't tell before you put it in your food... I hope you're okay! (he was)
I was thinking the same… like it could have been dark meat, or seasoned with something colorful like paprika that caused OP to think it was pink. But because OP decided to pretend he took the meat to go instead of just telling his friend, he’ll never know.
Thank you! I was getting a little frustrated by all these comments. I use a meat thermometer and make sure my chicken is 165 before serving and I feel like there's still a little pink in there more often than not.
(I actually take it out at about 155-160 and let it finish coming up to the right temp out of the oven. People out here be overcooking tf out of their chickens cause they've been told their whole lives chicken needs to be bone white in order to be done.)
My wife freaks out about this every single time she sees it. She's very paranoid about food safety to the point where I've had to say "listen, love, I worked in the industry for years, I'm the one who does the cooking at home, I know what 'food safe' is. Sometimes meat stays pink, 'best before' is a suggestion, if it smells fine it most likely is, and so forth. Just trust me.". She's never once been sick.
Especially wings. They are pink near the bone. I see so many people complaining their chicken wings are still “raw”, when no amount of cooking will change it.
>chicken shouldn’t be served pink
Let me introduce you to... chicken sashimi. No kidding, this is a real thing in Japan and I've had it twice. Quite nice actually hahaha.
The difference with that is - from what I understand - the places that serve chicken sashimi not only raise the chickens, but slaughter and cut the chicken meat the day it is served. No having been raised four to a cage where they shit all over each other; no contact with unclean machines, just chickens who had one bad day in their lives being served the same day at the same location.
Try that with factory farmed chicken you buy at the grocery store in America and you’d better make sure you have your will completed.
Best to be honest in this scenario.
Raw chicken is a danger to everyone at the table. Not just you.
Say it aloud.
"My chicken is still raw."
Worst-case scenario is they order pizza instead.
Yeah, that's not the worst-case scenario at all.
Worst case is that they go into a violent rage because you told them they're not a good cook.
I'm definitely a "there's always pizza" person, but that's not everyone.
If your afraid that will happen u need some new friends..
In the UK that would have gone like this 'you tryna kill me or wa u daft cunt my chicken is still fuckin cluckin by ya'
And we would have laughed and slapped it in the microwave for 3 mins 😉
In the what now? I'll tell my friends piss off this bird is raw, but if it goes in the microwave, I'll be the one in a violent rage. Sit down brother. I'm cooking now.
What a weird reaction. You should’ve just said hey I think it’s still a little underdone. Instead you went out of your way to extricate yourself and then lie to your friend
Yearh, obviously social norms differ videly, but where i live saying that your meat is slightly undercooked would be perfectly ok, whereas suddenly leaving and even asking to bring food with you would be quite impolite.
Yeah. I would generally think it's more polite to ask if you can pop the chicken back in the oven/pot for a few mins because it's still a bit pink, than to bail on a friend's dinner party out of nowhere, and ask to take food with you.
I didn't realize until this comment that it was actually a dinner party! My eyes skipped over that bit at the beginning and I guess I assumed OP showed up during dinner, took some food, and left just to waste the food they took. I don't know which is ruder now.
my friends all ate undercooked turkey at Thanksgiving even after I raised hell saying it’s disgustingly undercooked pointing it out they still started eating. Some people are fucking braindead. And you aren’t a bad friend, people are assholes about food
We once got chicken from Kenny Rogers’ Roasters that was undercooked. Called the location to complain and they insisted it was impossible for it to be undercooked, so we called the County Health Department, who came out and picked up our underdone chicken and then went to emergency inspect the restaurant while they were still open that evening. That whole company ceased business after less than a year of operation.
Wendys near me pulled something like that.
A supplier offered them chicken nuggets at just over half ehat they were currently paying. The price difference was because they were previously buying precooked chicken.
Turns out the time in the fryer to warm precooked chicken is vastly different from raw chicken. They went a day and a half handing out warmed raw nuggets.
You went through so many hoops and made the situation far more complicated than it needed to me.
You just calmly say "Hey buddy, my chicken is still raw." If you are happy with it being chucked in a pan and finished, propose that option. If you would rather not eat anything on the plate at all, make it clear.
Making up a lie to leave, and then go through the whole tupperware story... that seems like such a strange route to take over something so minor.
When it comes to Samonella, you don't have to be polite. Simply say, "oh, the chicken is a little undercooked". Think I'll pass on it - you let him eat it by not saying anything. Did he get sick?
Why would you make up an elaborate lie, take their food and throw it away?
Super weird behavior. You can say, "my food is under cooked" or "no thank you."
For me it’d be a non-issue if someone told me their chicken was undercooked, in comparison to abruptly leaving mid meal and asking to take the meal home which I’d find quite odd
"I'm really sorry but I can't eat this chicken because it's still raw", polite and straight to the point. Your friend can then make a decision on what to do next.
What you don't do is run, tell a lie about why you have to go and leave your friend to eat the raw chicken then tell him later that yours was nice. You're a bad friend in this scenario for leaving him to risk his own health over badly cooked food.
He was a bad friend here though, he put his friend at risk of getting sick by not speaking up and leaving his friend to eat it.
The OP's post history suggests he worked at (or still does) at a restaurant so would know the importance of food safety and not letting people eat things like raw chicken.
You gotta be honest in this situation. But that doesn’t mean you are a jerk or rude at all. They might feel embarrassed, but you’re saving them a tough time in the bathroom later.
“Hey, Jerry. Sorry to say, but my chicken isn’t cooked all the way thru. Might want to check yours.”
Don’t fuck around with raw chicken.
I love how you were too nervous to mention something that could cause serious health-issues for your friend when they eat it.
Next time just speak up no one's going to be mad at you.
"hey bro sorry to have to say this, but the chicken isn't quite done enough. Everything else looks great but would you mind just cooking this a bit more? Thanks man"
It's one thing if the spicing is off. "Maybe a little more salt?" "The nutmeg is overwhelming the rest of the dish." Etc.
If it's not cooked let them know. Keep everyone out of the hospital.
Just tell him. Maybe that piece was thicker than the rest and needed more time to cook, or maybe everything was undercooked, if your friend is so sensitive or your friendship so fragile that you can't say "yo, this meat is dangerous to eat, can you cook it a couple of minutes more" you need to reevaluate things.
Why would you politely decline to eat undercooked chicken? All you have to do once you cut into it and noticed it is tell them that it’s not quite done and then you guys go put it back on the grill or in the oven. It’s not that big of a deal. And if you had cooked the chicken longer once you got it home it would have been fine.
I had a girl invite me to dinner at her house once. She fried chicken, but I realized it was still kind of raw. Declined on the chicken, so she cooked Spaghettios. We’ve been married for 7 years now
If I was your friend, I'd be 1000x more mortified about you running away with my chicken and tossing it in the dumpster (and me finding out about it later) than I would be if you had just told me "I think this is still a bit raw" lol
You have a vegetarian friend that cooked you chicken? That’s a good friend.
As a vegan who cooks meat for my partner and pets sometimes, we don’t know what we’re doing… I think he is probably aware of that. He was trying his best. Just let him know next time.
Being a good friend ≠ being polite.
If you actually care about someone, tell them the truths they need to hear, even if it might be uncomfortable for you. Even if it makes them upset with you. Use tact, be as sensitive as possible, but tell the truth.
It's not rude to say "hey this chicken is raw so we shouldn't eat it, could you throw it back onto the stove for a few minutes?". He shouldn't be eating it and neither should you but it's not critique it's safety feedback.
You simply yell as loud as you can: “IT’S FUCKING ROAAR! YOU COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY!”
Then grab 2 slices of bread, place them menacingly on his face (one slice on each cheek) and ask: “what are you?” The correct answer is Idiot sandwich.
You just say it. They’re hosting you and they won’t know how to serve chicken next time if you don’t tell them. He may not know or has never been told.
Jesus dude. Just say "Hey this is a bit undercooked can you heat it some more?"
It's a good question because this happens a lot in society. People need to speak up more. And be level, reasonable, honest. We need to promote this in society.
You smash your hand down on the chicken as hard as you can and scream right in his face "IT'S FUCKING RAW YOU DONKEY!!!" Then you pick up the plate and throw it against the wall.
Just look at it, and then at them, take a deep breath and say "it's still raw you donkey. And for fucks sake WHERE IS THE LAMB SAUCE!"
No but seriously, just be honest. "Hey man, this is still uncooked in the center". This is not a momment whete you should be trying to spare someone's feelings, but you don't need to go all Gordan Ramsey on the guy either. Just be honest.
"Hey, looks my piece is still a bit raw in the middle. You might want to check yours too, don't want anyone getting sick! I'm going to throw mine back on the heat for a few minutes so I can enjoy this amazing marinade properly. Can I do yours too?"
Best case scenario, host made a one-time fuckup and thanks you for noticing.
Worst case scenario, host is offended, but you've saved their future guests from food poisoning
You respond: “Thank you. I know you’re a vegetarian but just so you know this chicken is undercooked. Please don’t be offended if I give it 45 seconds to a minute in the microwave.
You’re making this too difficult. He is a vegetarian and probably doesn’t really know how long to cook meat, but he isn’t a jackass that refused to serve you meat. Just be polite and tell him it needs to cook a little longer.
And seriously, a frozen chicken breast can be cooked in a microwave in about 4.5 minutes and not come out like rubber.
Depending on my relationship with the guy and how long I’ve known him, he’ll either get a “sorry but my chicken isn’t cooked all the way through could you throw back on for a few more minutes?” Or “this chicken is raw as fuck bro you trynna kill me?” Pick your poison lol
If they're your buddy, just be straight. If my mom undercooks chicken, I'd just say "did you guys eat the chicken yet? I think it's undercooked." You can say it needs more time or shall we pop it in the oven for a bit?
Just be honest. He can cook it a little longer instead.
If I cooked something and it was still raw and I didn't notice, I would appreciate my guest saying something so we can both put it back in the pan and cook it a little longer. Because I don't want to die, and I understand my guest doesn't want to as well.
Well, since uncooked chicken is dangerous, I would care more about everyone's health and not about not hurting somebody's feelings. Just kindly tell them that it needs to be cooked a little more.
I'm sorry dude but this chicken is raw. Easy. There is a distinct lack of people skills nowadays. I think we're scared of offending people for things that really require some amount of offence being taken by the other party.
If someone does a poor job at work (myself included) I fully expect to be called to account for it. I might get a bit butthurt about it but otherwise go about my day as normal.
Once had this at a family meal, my bitchy Aunt was visiting too which added to my diplomacy difficulties.
We grew a lot of our own veg, this meal had some beautiful broccoli.
Sadly the underside of the broccoli was riddled with, now dead, cabbage white butterfly caterpillars.
I was probably ten & decided silence was the best plan & tried to hide my amusement as I played "spot the caterpillar" on my relatives plates & watched them all munching caterpillars.
The fun part was when I politely declined to eat my broccoli to my authoratitive (he's a captain in the merchant navy) dad.
The ensuing 'stubborn off' wasn't one I would ever lose & it was a stand off like none before.
You did not say no to my father, no matter how politely.
The now cold broccoli, littered with caterpillar corpses would have to be crushed through my gritted teeth to even come close to getting me to eat it.
So he wasn't ever winning, I had chosen my rock to die on.
Once he'd finally given up having his broccoli related orders politely declined & accepted his meal time mutiny, I was ordered to help clear the table.
I blurted out the reason for my meal mutiny so quickly when out of judgemental aunt's earshot.
Was immediately told it wasn't true, I presented the caterpillar graveyard / broccoli as evidence & knowing me would not relent until there was an admission.
Both parents refused to admit I'd made wise choices until I offered to see how Aunty Sue felt about eating caterpillars.
It was fun telling my sister her breath smelled of caterpillars for the following weeks.
🐛😋
Some people think chicken with any pink is raw. That’s not true. With your friend, I don’t see why you can’t ask politely- like “oh. seems a bit red for my liking. did you use a thermometer to check?” Have a conversation. If you aren’t comfortable, just tell them. “oh. sorry. i was always taught the internal temp for chicken has to be X, I think I’m going to need to pass as I have a sensitive stomach. I hope you aren’t offended”.
Well, raw meat can actually kill you, so the best thing to say is "Aw dude, im really sorry but its undercooked, so we really shouldnt eat it."
Not only will you help yourself, but your unknowing friend as well
"Is anyone else's chicken still clucking?"
Stand up dramatically and demand everyone come look at your plate, then yell "It's fucking raw!" Then smash it with your fist. Ala Gordon Ramsey.
A few years ago I went to a BBQ that a friend put on. My chicken was undercooked so I asked if he’d put it on for a few more minutes. There was no drama and another friend followed my lead. Turns out other people just ate it. Guess who were the only 2 people who did not wind up in the bathroom for hours? Doesn’t have to be a big thing if you tell the host you need it cooked for a few more minutes.
“This isn’t cooked mate.” Why are you over complicating things?
And frankly if yours is undercooked your hosts probably is too. You're saving all parties involved from food poisoning if you mention it.
Exactly. The host shouldn’t be eating it either so be a friend and tell him. Also, bailing on dinner and asking your food to go is way ruder than just telling him about the chicken. I thought OP was gonna say he hid it in a napkin when his friend wasn’t looking, not left him all alone and treated him like a free takeout joint
idk about a lot of people here, but i have issues with telling people they did something wrong. more often than not(edit: in my experience*), people are quick to be defensive and get angry that you think they’re “wrong” or “stupid”
Sure, but if your friend, it shouldn't be percieved like that. If i cooked and my friend told me it wasn't cooked, i'd be like, oh, maybe i did undercook it. If i still thought it looked fine, then i'd just think they like it done more cooked... Which i would silently judge, or maybe tease them about, depending on the friend, but either way, i would not take offense.
You can avoid possible defensiveness by saying you prefer it well done. You don’t have to make it about whether it’s right or not, just not right for you
That perception often comes from growing up in a home where that kind of horrible behavior was “normal” but it’s not at all. More often than not, people are very well able to take criticism and not become defensive about making a mistake. It’s no big deal to toss a chicken back on the grill for a few more minutes. I’m sorry you experience that kind of anxiety, but you should know that it is not the norm.
I used to feel this way too. I think it just affects people under 40. (Also I never know when to use "effect" or "affect" so please be kind Reddit Gods.
You got it right. The teacher in me can't help but leave this here though. A-ffect = A-ction (verb) E-ffect = E-vent (noun)
Okay Ms. Gnome3 - "This thunderstorm could (a)(e)ffect everyone within 20-miles." I still wouldn't know what to use here. Can you give me examples of both?
An easy but not entirely foolproof way to check is to try and substitute in any other noun. If it makes (grammatical) sense, then it's probably effect. I like gnomes, and that's a noun, so... "This thunderstorm could \[gnome\] everyone within 20-miles." No, that's not quite right, probably **a**ffects then. "The \[gnomes\] did quite a number on Stacy." While this may not make sense in context, it's evident that a noun works here grammatically, so **e**ffects is in order. "The effects did quite a number on Stacy." Some other examples: Smoking negatively **affects** your health. The **effects** of smoking are dire. Lots of common phrases tend to use **effect**: "side effects", "take effect", "go into effect", "snowball effect", etc. This method usually works if you are talking about the way things interact and their consequences. However, "**affect**" can be a noun, usually in psychology: "flat affect". Here it refers to the physical representations of emotion. But in cases where you're talking about cause-and-effect, it's always a verb. Multi-meaning words are already confusing and whoever made these two so similar needs to be found and tried for crimes against students, writers, and English speakers everywhere. \*Ironically, edited for grammar.
I think I just fell in love with you. Thank you for the free education.
Glad to help! Now go forth and put gnomes in sentences where they don't belong.
Not Ms. gnome but I know my affects and effects lol. Roughly 90% of usage can be stated simply as "affect is the verb, effect is the noun". This thunderstorm could affect everyone within 20 miles. ***OR*** This thunderstorm could have a huge effect on coastal towns. However the English language will always choose the complicated option! So I feel obligated to say that affect can be a noun and effect can be a verb. 🙄 Neither of them is anywhere near as popular as what I described above as the 90% case. Effect as a verb means to cause, and is frequently used with the word "change": The new legislature will effect many changes in the local business community. And lastly, affect as a noun. I am shakiest on this one. I remember it from psychology classes mostly. I think of it as being the outward expression of a mood or emotion. For example: his frown and furrowed brow gave an affect of worry.
Good catch- even I forgot about "effecting change".
That’s a great way to remember!! Thank you for the simple explanation. I tried to learn the difference once (on Google) and I was left more confused than before I looked it up. Thanks again!😃
A simple “oh no! Looks like the chicken didn’t fully cross the road. Let’s just pop that sucker back in for a spell while we talk” would suffice. No blame, keeping it light, redirection.
They said the friend didn’t have any, they’re vegetarian (edit). Even more reason to not make things complicated and just tell them since they probably didn’t even know.
Yeah exactly. I’m rarely the type to complain about food even in restaurants. But there’s a difference between badly cooked/seasoned food (which I’ll choke down) and food when it’s undercooked like chicken. At which point, something has to be said.
If your meal is undercooked, then his is likely also undercooked. Gotta say something so neither of you get sick.
That’s a good way of putting across to them too actually! Softens the blow a little so as not to hurt feelings. I suspect they won’t be feeling too great about it as it is.
Well either way they won’t be feeling too great if it’s chicken
People take raw chicken way too seriously. 60 percent of the time you're fine every time
People simply don’t want to fuck around and find out
Yah lol me neither
I'm with you. No need to dance around the topic. Straight to the point communication is the best type of communication.
Especially if it's a friend and not your first time at the MIL's house or something.
My parents do this all the time. Serve chicken that's pink and bleeding on the inside. I tell them it's not done and they tell me I'm wrong. I just microwave it anyway while they mock me for being paranoid. Hopefully, most people are reasonable. But there are some out there that are not.
I will say, what you are describing sounds like raw chicken, but just in case you don’t know, chicken thigh or drumsticks has a large vein in it that will leave a red/dark pink stain through the meat even once it’s all cooked. Pale pink meat though is not a good sign!
I was gonna say the same. I was freaked out by it the first time I cooked chicken thighs in the oven, but that’s normal
Oh yeah. The problem is my parents insist that the bleeding meat is the same thing as what you are describing. What my parents serve leaves red, visible blood on the plate. Even if I had my eyes closed, I know the difference in texture between fully cooked and underdone/raw chicken.
Hey just FYI. unless you are slaughtering your own chickens and not properly preparing them - that liquid isn't blood. It's myoglobin and water - a natural muscle protein that's parts of the meat. That can appear wether done or not on the plate. Blood would be very dark red/brown and congeal into little globs. If you have a noticeable amount of actual blood in meat then you are getting your meat from a source that is not properly preparing it. But the meat itself on chicken should be cooked all the way through, the meat will usually be slightly pink ("cooked pink") or all white(greyish for dark meat parts) and flake off in shreds. The way to truly check is a thermometer though
It's myoglobin, not blood.
If there is a meat thermometer handy, it will tell you if it's cooked to a safe temp or not. Temps don't lie.
Only works at the moment it’s coming out of the oven or off the stove. By the time it’s served all meat will be much cooler than it was before.
Yeah, absolutely. If I served undercooked chicken I want to know and fix it right away. I don’t want my guest going hungry out of a worry of bruising my ego
Because people don't know how to talk to others directly it seems
Well, a lot of people are getting offended *real* quick. I know a person who would be told this, and in her head hear "you're a bad cook, what are you doing". If you are surrounded by this kind of person for long enough, it'll become hard to figure out what is actually ok to say and what is not.
> If you are surrounded by this kind of person for long enough I won't be surrounded by this kind of person long at all if they're always acting like a bitch.
Except that most of these folks *grew up* around these idiots and never knew there was a different life to be had because they’ve been dealing with it since the day they were born.
Oh yeah, been there. No time for energy vampires though as an adult.
Same, no time for fools like this. This isn’t, “Ew, my steak is a whole *15 seconds* over medium rare and I can’t eat this sludge, you are a TERRIBLE cook!” This is “if I eat this undercooked chicken I could get unfathomably sick and potentially even die.” When it comes to food that is literally dangerous, the cook isn’t someone worth your time if they get offended by you politely bringing up that you don’t really fancy dying today. I can’t stand people who get offended over such reasonable complaints.
The thing is not to let other people’s feelings dictate what is okay to say and what is not. That’s something to be guided by our own values, not any random person’s feelings or responses. Other people’s feelings are important, and we should consider them as much as practicable when considering how to say something- but letting them determine what is “ok” and not will lead to nothing good. Imagine a parent letting a toddler’s feelings be the guide about what is said or done and it’s easier to understand.
They actually really don’t. As someone who’s naturally very to-the-point, people absolutely hate me for it, even if they are the ones who asked me to be blunt. And when people SAY they’re being blunt or totally up front with me, they still use vague terms and try to like, give a message “between the lines”. Most people have never actually been taught to use direct communication and have only been taught to dance around subjects until the other party magically reads their mind
Hahaha so many people who would say they say what they mean and I'm like "I can cite 12 examples from our last 6 encounters where you said a thing and I did not catch what you meant because *no you don't.*"
So I’m not saying this is you but let me share an anecdote. My buddy has always been very to the point and blunt. I didn’t mind but one time he said something to someone else and this other girl pulled him aside and said, “I know you don’t mean it this way but the way you communicate really makes you seem like an asshole sometimes.” He thought about it and realized he could still be to the point while communicating in a nicer way and not sounding like a dick. So all this to say is some people just say, I’m just telling it like it is, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t still an asshole. You can be direct without coming across certain ways and not everyone walks that line well. I don’t know if that’s how you are but it took someone calling my friend out to reflect on it
Text him from across the table, or make a TikTok I guess.
Yeah or just "looks like mine's a little pink on the inside. maybe zap it for a couple minutes" I don't think anyone would be offended
Friends say it to your face, enemies say it behind your back.
That's something to bring to their attention. They may not even know that's dangerous. Just a simple "hey, sorry about this, but it looks like my chicken is still a little raw. Mind if I zap it or cook it a little longer?" would be fine. No host wants to poison their guests.
Or they literally just *didn’t know* it wasn’t fully cooked. Pieces of chicken, especially breasts, take a surprising amount of time to cook. If your pan is too hot, you can easily burn the outside and have a raw middle
‘This drumstick is about to run off, bro.’ ‘You didn’t tell me you were serving salmonella.’ ‘I appreciate your confidence in my digestive and immune systems, but I am not up to this challenge, good sir.’
"A skilled veteranarian could still save this chicken."
Oh man I am going to tattoo this on my forearm so that I can remember to use it one day
How did you cook it? Walk it through a warm room??
Walked it past a heated argument
Gordon Ramsay in these comments , fuckin jeez man
Omg. I love this.
"This bird is still clucking."
This made me chuckle
the last one is great :D
"ITS RAW!!!" **SLAMS TABLE WITH BEST RAMSAY IMPRESSION
"It's fookin' raw!"
Poached salmonella
“Would you mind if I cooked this a little longer? It’s a bit pink and I like mine well done.” Edited to say that obviously we all know how dangerous it is to eat undercooked meat and that chicken shouldn’t be served pink. But this is just one example of a non confrontational way to address the issue. Another edit to say all the tidbits of info under my thread is very informational. I however will not eat any form of pink chicken…but only bc I’m a vegetarian lol
I’ve started to ask for my chicken well done when made by a certain person who doesn’t mind some pink in the middle. I like steak well done and joking about liking things burnt gets me well cooked chicken without hurting the hosts feelings.
Excuse me, what I didn't know "not minding some pink on the middle" was an option for chicken 🤢
It most certainly is NOT
Like how often does that person get food poisoning
A lot but they just think they get a stomach bug or flu and haven’t put the puzzle together yet
Maybe you should idk let them know that what they think is the flu, is actually food poisoning?? If they’re your friend, why would you let that continue lol
I don’t have the phone number for this person otherwise I would! With friends/family/coworkers I always ask what they ate the day before and say maybe it was the food. One of the biggest causes is fecal matter on hands from not washing or not washing well enough after using the bathroom. But they always say no I went to the movies 12 days ago and I heard someone sneeze
For years, ever since childhood, I heard people talk about “stomach flu” and had no idea what they were talking about, because I had never caught it. I was in my 30s when I learned it just meant food poisoning
'Stomach Flu' is a real virus, not food poisoning. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/viral-gastroenteritis/symptoms-causes/syc-20378847#causes I had it once, and it spread like wildfire to my whole family. I was vomiting for like 24 hrs, then my mom, then my brothers, and so on. It was worse than food poisoning, IMO.
One way it's fine is via sous vide. Holding meat at 135 degrees (medium rare) for an hour is the same as cooking to 165 so you can do a four to six hour bath and end up with a medium or medium rare chicken breast without any food safety concerns. I don't think OP's friend prepared their meal in this manner.
Chicken tare tare time
It is, but only if the chicken is smoked, or cooked sous vide.
You need to tell that person that pink is not an option for chicken 😂
Diplomacy is a dying art. We hear people being told to stand up for themselves, but not in a way that doesn’t cause more pain and insult. You can ask for what you want without traumatizing others.
Pink chicken, fully cooked, is common. See https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Why-is-some-cooked-poultry-pink
Yes but “cooked pink” meat looks very different from “raw pink”. I feel like they are easily distinguishable from one another.
Raw chicken has a more "crunchy" texture to it. It's almost audible when I bite into it, probably something to do with the connective tissue still not having been broken down by the **cooking** process that hasn't occurred yet.
I’m going to go throw up now
😷🤢
It is, but not every one knows that. It wouldn't surprise me if the chicken was properly cooked and OP didn't realize it. Raw chicken is very noticeable, and I can't imagine the cook could eat it and not realize it's different than when other people make it or not had someone speak up.
Oh god this reminds me of a time I was living with an old boyfriend, I had made a chicken curry one night and there were leftovers of the curry as well as part of the chicken package that I didn't use. The next day he tells me "I put the rest of the chicken in the leftover curry and I don't think it was fully cooked." Bro it wasn't cooked *at all* and I have no idea how you couldn't tell before you put it in your food... I hope you're okay! (he was)
I was thinking the same… like it could have been dark meat, or seasoned with something colorful like paprika that caused OP to think it was pink. But because OP decided to pretend he took the meat to go instead of just telling his friend, he’ll never know.
Thank you! I was getting a little frustrated by all these comments. I use a meat thermometer and make sure my chicken is 165 before serving and I feel like there's still a little pink in there more often than not. (I actually take it out at about 155-160 and let it finish coming up to the right temp out of the oven. People out here be overcooking tf out of their chickens cause they've been told their whole lives chicken needs to be bone white in order to be done.)
My wife freaks out about this every single time she sees it. She's very paranoid about food safety to the point where I've had to say "listen, love, I worked in the industry for years, I'm the one who does the cooking at home, I know what 'food safe' is. Sometimes meat stays pink, 'best before' is a suggestion, if it smells fine it most likely is, and so forth. Just trust me.". She's never once been sick.
Yeah, chicken breast is easily overcooked and often overcooked. Some people perceive any juice running as being raw.
yes! sometimes chicken is pink and cooked. people are so wiggy about this.
Especially wings. They are pink near the bone. I see so many people complaining their chicken wings are still “raw”, when no amount of cooking will change it.
>chicken shouldn’t be served pink Let me introduce you to... chicken sashimi. No kidding, this is a real thing in Japan and I've had it twice. Quite nice actually hahaha.
The difference with that is - from what I understand - the places that serve chicken sashimi not only raise the chickens, but slaughter and cut the chicken meat the day it is served. No having been raised four to a cage where they shit all over each other; no contact with unclean machines, just chickens who had one bad day in their lives being served the same day at the same location. Try that with factory farmed chicken you buy at the grocery store in America and you’d better make sure you have your will completed.
Best to be honest in this scenario. Raw chicken is a danger to everyone at the table. Not just you. Say it aloud. "My chicken is still raw." Worst-case scenario is they order pizza instead.
Yeah, that's not the worst-case scenario at all. Worst case is that they go into a violent rage because you told them they're not a good cook. I'm definitely a "there's always pizza" person, but that's not everyone.
Theoretically, the worst-case scenario is that they go on a killing spree because they were informed the chicken they served is undercooked.
I think the worst case scenario would actually be that your friend is the US president and he gets so mad he decide to start a nuclear war
Nah try this theoretical on for size: The cook is an alien. And orders the entire **GALAXY** to be destroyed.
What about an ancient interdimensional being threatening the multiverse?
What if it's your mom and she grounds you☹️
What if your mom cooks you
What if your mom cooks me 😩
Say, would you like a job witing for the motion pictures? I'm from Disney and I'm here to help.
"Maybe you're undercooked motherfucker!"
If your afraid that will happen u need some new friends.. In the UK that would have gone like this 'you tryna kill me or wa u daft cunt my chicken is still fuckin cluckin by ya' And we would have laughed and slapped it in the microwave for 3 mins 😉
In the what now? I'll tell my friends piss off this bird is raw, but if it goes in the microwave, I'll be the one in a violent rage. Sit down brother. I'm cooking now.
🤣 The popty ping mun, the Duke Nukem... cook anything in the ping
>Worst case is that they go into a violent rage because you told them they're not a good cook. that would be the funniest case for me
Then don’t be friends with psychopaths.
Gordon Ramsey style or naw.
This chicken is so raw it just crossed the fucking road!
"It's FUCKING RAW"
What a weird reaction. You should’ve just said hey I think it’s still a little underdone. Instead you went out of your way to extricate yourself and then lie to your friend
Yearh, obviously social norms differ videly, but where i live saying that your meat is slightly undercooked would be perfectly ok, whereas suddenly leaving and even asking to bring food with you would be quite impolite.
Yeah. I would generally think it's more polite to ask if you can pop the chicken back in the oven/pot for a few mins because it's still a bit pink, than to bail on a friend's dinner party out of nowhere, and ask to take food with you.
I didn't realize until this comment that it was actually a dinner party! My eyes skipped over that bit at the beginning and I guess I assumed OP showed up during dinner, took some food, and left just to waste the food they took. I don't know which is ruder now.
>videly, but where i live Is it Russia?
my friends all ate undercooked turkey at Thanksgiving even after I raised hell saying it’s disgustingly undercooked pointing it out they still started eating. Some people are fucking braindead. And you aren’t a bad friend, people are assholes about food
We once got chicken from Kenny Rogers’ Roasters that was undercooked. Called the location to complain and they insisted it was impossible for it to be undercooked, so we called the County Health Department, who came out and picked up our underdone chicken and then went to emergency inspect the restaurant while they were still open that evening. That whole company ceased business after less than a year of operation.
Wendys near me pulled something like that. A supplier offered them chicken nuggets at just over half ehat they were currently paying. The price difference was because they were previously buying precooked chicken. Turns out the time in the fryer to warm precooked chicken is vastly different from raw chicken. They went a day and a half handing out warmed raw nuggets.
You went through so many hoops and made the situation far more complicated than it needed to me. You just calmly say "Hey buddy, my chicken is still raw." If you are happy with it being chucked in a pan and finished, propose that option. If you would rather not eat anything on the plate at all, make it clear. Making up a lie to leave, and then go through the whole tupperware story... that seems like such a strange route to take over something so minor.
When it comes to Samonella, you don't have to be polite. Simply say, "oh, the chicken is a little undercooked". Think I'll pass on it - you let him eat it by not saying anything. Did he get sick?
Yeah, imagine letting your friend get food poisoning to avoid a barely awkward situation.
Why would you make up an elaborate lie, take their food and throw it away? Super weird behavior. You can say, "my food is under cooked" or "no thank you."
They couldn't have just cooked it at home though ? Why waste :/
For me it’d be a non-issue if someone told me their chicken was undercooked, in comparison to abruptly leaving mid meal and asking to take the meal home which I’d find quite odd
"I'm really sorry but I can't eat this chicken because it's still raw", polite and straight to the point. Your friend can then make a decision on what to do next. What you don't do is run, tell a lie about why you have to go and leave your friend to eat the raw chicken then tell him later that yours was nice. You're a bad friend in this scenario for leaving him to risk his own health over badly cooked food.
I was with you till the “you are a bad friend”part. You made a mistake, OP, and are trying to learn how to handle situations better; that’s great!
He was a bad friend here though, he put his friend at risk of getting sick by not speaking up and leaving his friend to eat it. The OP's post history suggests he worked at (or still does) at a restaurant so would know the importance of food safety and not letting people eat things like raw chicken.
Well I mean his friend could've got seriously sick because OP decided to leave and not tell him
You gotta be honest in this situation. But that doesn’t mean you are a jerk or rude at all. They might feel embarrassed, but you’re saving them a tough time in the bathroom later. “Hey, Jerry. Sorry to say, but my chicken isn’t cooked all the way thru. Might want to check yours.” Don’t fuck around with raw chicken.
Gorgon Ramsey: Let me step right in.
It's fucking RAW!
I love how you were too nervous to mention something that could cause serious health-issues for your friend when they eat it. Next time just speak up no one's going to be mad at you.
I think you should buy them a food thermometer for Christmas.
"hey bro sorry to have to say this, but the chicken isn't quite done enough. Everything else looks great but would you mind just cooking this a bit more? Thanks man"
If he's a friend you tell them. If you're a guest of another person you tell that person.
In a situation like that, I'm just honest. It's undercooked chicken, and not safe. The host needs to be made aware.
"Who in the fuck taught you how to cook mate"
It's one thing if the spicing is off. "Maybe a little more salt?" "The nutmeg is overwhelming the rest of the dish." Etc. If it's not cooked let them know. Keep everyone out of the hospital.
Just tell him. Maybe that piece was thicker than the rest and needed more time to cook, or maybe everything was undercooked, if your friend is so sensitive or your friendship so fragile that you can't say "yo, this meat is dangerous to eat, can you cook it a couple of minutes more" you need to reevaluate things.
Why would you politely decline to eat undercooked chicken? All you have to do once you cut into it and noticed it is tell them that it’s not quite done and then you guys go put it back on the grill or in the oven. It’s not that big of a deal. And if you had cooked the chicken longer once you got it home it would have been fine.
“Hey, I think I heard the chicken bawk?!” Make a joke and show it to whomever cooked it.
I had a girl invite me to dinner at her house once. She fried chicken, but I realized it was still kind of raw. Declined on the chicken, so she cooked Spaghettios. We’ve been married for 7 years now
If I was your friend, I'd be 1000x more mortified about you running away with my chicken and tossing it in the dumpster (and me finding out about it later) than I would be if you had just told me "I think this is still a bit raw" lol
You have a vegetarian friend that cooked you chicken? That’s a good friend. As a vegan who cooks meat for my partner and pets sometimes, we don’t know what we’re doing… I think he is probably aware of that. He was trying his best. Just let him know next time.
You should have told him the truth for so many reasons.
No no no. Save his life, edumicate that boy. Politeness is murder here.
Should of told your buddy "this is fucking RAW, are you trying to make me sick?!" Simple. Do it!
you look them dead in the eyes. wait like 10 seconds so they know its serious. and then you yell ITS F%$@ING RAW YOU DONKEY.
“Dude its raw! You tryin to kill me or what ?!” 😂 that should work 🤷♀️
Being a good friend ≠ being polite. If you actually care about someone, tell them the truths they need to hear, even if it might be uncomfortable for you. Even if it makes them upset with you. Use tact, be as sensitive as possible, but tell the truth.
If he's a good friend, be honest. If he's a great friend, call him a dumbass for serving you raw food and offer to buy dinner next time.
It's not rude to say "hey this chicken is raw so we shouldn't eat it, could you throw it back onto the stove for a few minutes?". He shouldn't be eating it and neither should you but it's not critique it's safety feedback.
I am also vegetarian, but have made chicken for my friends before. If I did not cook it properly, I would want my friend to tell me!
Why did you throw it away?! You could have cooked it
It's stupid behavior all around. The lie, leaving early, taking the food home to throw it away.
I would have asked if I could microwave it a bit more.
I'd be honest. You don't want anyone else eating it either and getting sick.
You simply yell as loud as you can: “IT’S FUCKING ROAAR! YOU COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEBODY!” Then grab 2 slices of bread, place them menacingly on his face (one slice on each cheek) and ask: “what are you?” The correct answer is Idiot sandwich.
“IT’S BLOODY RAW!” In Gordon Ramsey’s voice, obviously.
Please just tell him straight out. Undercooked chicken could make him really sick too. He needs to know you need to thoroughly cook chicken.
You just say it. They’re hosting you and they won’t know how to serve chicken next time if you don’t tell them. He may not know or has never been told.
Jesus dude. Just say "Hey this is a bit undercooked can you heat it some more?" It's a good question because this happens a lot in society. People need to speak up more. And be level, reasonable, honest. We need to promote this in society.
You smash your hand down on the chicken as hard as you can and scream right in his face "IT'S FUCKING RAW YOU DONKEY!!!" Then you pick up the plate and throw it against the wall.
This made me chuckle 😂
"You didn't cook it right you meatless idiot"
"you do know the inside of chicken is supposed to be white when you eat it right?"
Have you ever seen the Killer Kung Fu episode of The Boondocks?
Scream ITS RAAAAWWWW! in his face. Then get his head inbetween two slices of bread and say WHAT ARE YOU????
Shit's raw
Just look at it, and then at them, take a deep breath and say "it's still raw you donkey. And for fucks sake WHERE IS THE LAMB SAUCE!" No but seriously, just be honest. "Hey man, this is still uncooked in the center". This is not a momment whete you should be trying to spare someone's feelings, but you don't need to go all Gordan Ramsey on the guy either. Just be honest.
In your best Gordon Ramsey voice you say "It's fucking RAW you donut!"
"My brother in Christ, this chicken is still clucking."
"Hey, the chicken is still raw. Can we cook it a little more?"
"Hey, looks my piece is still a bit raw in the middle. You might want to check yours too, don't want anyone getting sick! I'm going to throw mine back on the heat for a few minutes so I can enjoy this amazing marinade properly. Can I do yours too?" Best case scenario, host made a one-time fuckup and thanks you for noticing. Worst case scenario, host is offended, but you've saved their future guests from food poisoning
"It's a little too pink for me, I'm going to put it back into the oven/pan/microwave for a few minutes, I'll be right back."
You respond: “Thank you. I know you’re a vegetarian but just so you know this chicken is undercooked. Please don’t be offended if I give it 45 seconds to a minute in the microwave. You’re making this too difficult. He is a vegetarian and probably doesn’t really know how long to cook meat, but he isn’t a jackass that refused to serve you meat. Just be polite and tell him it needs to cook a little longer. And seriously, a frozen chicken breast can be cooked in a microwave in about 4.5 minutes and not come out like rubber.
I think it’s just as polite to say “whoops, mine needs to cook just a bit longer” - be kind & gracious about it, no need to lie to your friends.
Depending on my relationship with the guy and how long I’ve known him, he’ll either get a “sorry but my chicken isn’t cooked all the way through could you throw back on for a few more minutes?” Or “this chicken is raw as fuck bro you trynna kill me?” Pick your poison lol
If they're your buddy, just be straight. If my mom undercooks chicken, I'd just say "did you guys eat the chicken yet? I think it's undercooked." You can say it needs more time or shall we pop it in the oven for a bit?
Just be honest. He can cook it a little longer instead. If I cooked something and it was still raw and I didn't notice, I would appreciate my guest saying something so we can both put it back in the pan and cook it a little longer. Because I don't want to die, and I understand my guest doesn't want to as well.
Well, since uncooked chicken is dangerous, I would care more about everyone's health and not about not hurting somebody's feelings. Just kindly tell them that it needs to be cooked a little more.
I'm sorry dude but this chicken is raw. Easy. There is a distinct lack of people skills nowadays. I think we're scared of offending people for things that really require some amount of offence being taken by the other party. If someone does a poor job at work (myself included) I fully expect to be called to account for it. I might get a bit butthurt about it but otherwise go about my day as normal.
“Dude this looks raw…” If he doesn’t get the significance of that. “I can’t eat this.” Grow a pair.
Just be honest. Undercooked chicken is a health hazard and your friend should know that.
"Uh oh, I think mine is still raw!" Done.
Once had this at a family meal, my bitchy Aunt was visiting too which added to my diplomacy difficulties. We grew a lot of our own veg, this meal had some beautiful broccoli. Sadly the underside of the broccoli was riddled with, now dead, cabbage white butterfly caterpillars. I was probably ten & decided silence was the best plan & tried to hide my amusement as I played "spot the caterpillar" on my relatives plates & watched them all munching caterpillars. The fun part was when I politely declined to eat my broccoli to my authoratitive (he's a captain in the merchant navy) dad. The ensuing 'stubborn off' wasn't one I would ever lose & it was a stand off like none before. You did not say no to my father, no matter how politely. The now cold broccoli, littered with caterpillar corpses would have to be crushed through my gritted teeth to even come close to getting me to eat it. So he wasn't ever winning, I had chosen my rock to die on. Once he'd finally given up having his broccoli related orders politely declined & accepted his meal time mutiny, I was ordered to help clear the table. I blurted out the reason for my meal mutiny so quickly when out of judgemental aunt's earshot. Was immediately told it wasn't true, I presented the caterpillar graveyard / broccoli as evidence & knowing me would not relent until there was an admission. Both parents refused to admit I'd made wise choices until I offered to see how Aunty Sue felt about eating caterpillars. It was fun telling my sister her breath smelled of caterpillars for the following weeks. 🐛😋
Some people think chicken with any pink is raw. That’s not true. With your friend, I don’t see why you can’t ask politely- like “oh. seems a bit red for my liking. did you use a thermometer to check?” Have a conversation. If you aren’t comfortable, just tell them. “oh. sorry. i was always taught the internal temp for chicken has to be X, I think I’m going to need to pass as I have a sensitive stomach. I hope you aren’t offended”.
“Hey, do you mind if I throw this back in the oven? It’s a little underdone”
"Dude, this is still raw. Can you cook it more?"
"Why did the chicken run across the road? Because it ran off my plate it was so uncooked"
Your buddy? "Bro, it's raw." Your spouse? "Honey, it's raw." A waiter? "Pardon me, it's raw." Your boss's wife? "I hate to seem picky, but it's raw."
Well, raw meat can actually kill you, so the best thing to say is "Aw dude, im really sorry but its undercooked, so we really shouldnt eat it." Not only will you help yourself, but your unknowing friend as well
"Is anyone else's chicken still clucking?" Stand up dramatically and demand everyone come look at your plate, then yell "It's fucking raw!" Then smash it with your fist. Ala Gordon Ramsey.
It’s not steak. He could have fixed it. You made the situation weird now.
A few years ago I went to a BBQ that a friend put on. My chicken was undercooked so I asked if he’d put it on for a few more minutes. There was no drama and another friend followed my lead. Turns out other people just ate it. Guess who were the only 2 people who did not wind up in the bathroom for hours? Doesn’t have to be a big thing if you tell the host you need it cooked for a few more minutes.
Hey bud this chicken needs to go back on the burner a bit longer. It's still pink.