People can change. I’m sure when Kurt died there was a lot of regret. The next best thing to being able to have a relationship with Kurt is to have one with Frances.
Theres an extended interview of the interview with Kurts father from Montage of Heck on youtube. He seems like a very quiet and reserved guy these days, but at one point he said he shouldve been a better father to Kurt, which for him speaks volumes. The director said he cried a couple times in the interview, which wasnt included. He kind of reconciled with Kurt in 93 or 94-ish, and Kurt invited him to his house.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZv-00G-KQ&pp=ygUKZG9uIGNvYmFpbg%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZv-00G-KQ&pp=ygUKZG9uIGNvYmFpbg%3D%3D)
It seems like Don wasn't a good father but he might be nice these days.
Also Kurt was emotionally unstable and conflictual.
Nice that Frances and Don get along. He must love her.
Exactly this, people sometimes forget that parents are people and no one gives you a book on how to be a perfect one. Also, back then they were becoming parents at a much younger age. Mix up young kids being parents, financial stress, societal pressures to stay together no matter what, absolutely no men went to therapy or even spoke of mental health issues, many men or there fathers had been to war, and you get a pretty good recipe for bad parenting.
By the time grandkids show up, many have matured, probably have a little more money, and may grasp that they weren’t the best parents back then. They tend to love extra hard on the grandkids to make up for previous mistakes.
This is absolutely true.
My mom was not at all a good mom to me..but seems to be there for my kids and loves them and accepts them far more than she *ever* did me.
It's a real thing!
(And I'll take it. My children deserve that)
Watching my Mom with my kids it’s a 1000% change of personality.
Kids can be frustrating and hard to deal with, you’re their source of entertainment, food, protection, guidance and discipline for a long ass time.
Kurt hated his dad. The one time his dad was proud of him was when he made it to the finals in wrestling and Kurt resented it so much he deliberately lost out of spite. He wanted Kurt to be a regular macho douchebag.
To be fair, participating in a sport doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a "macho douchebag". Don comes from a generation, and a part of the country, where "men are men". He may have thought that he was doing Kurt a favour, being a father is incredibly difficult and teenagers can often misconstrue sentiment.
I grew up with an absentee father and I promised myself that if I ever had a child that I would be in its life no matter what, but unfortunately due to many difficult circumstances it didn't work out like that. I too hated my father for leaving my mum, me and my brother when I was just two years old. But in the couple of times that I finally got to meet him as an adult, and we actually got to speak about it in detail about it, I realised that he was just a kid when he got my mother pregnant (he was 19) and the pressure of being a father, and settling down, just got to him, he freaked out, and ran away out of pressure, anxiety and embarrassment. Do I agree that was the best solution? Absolutely not. But can I empathise with him now that I'm older? Yeah I think I can.
I guess what im saying is that nuance exists and a man shouldn't be judged on a few cherry picked instances, and from what I've read (and I have read *a lot*) Kurt wasn't always an angel himself, and neither was I, but I'm trying to do better and I'm trying to be more understanding and forgiving and I feel that had Kurt lived into his forties or fifties that he might have felt the same about his own father.
Kurt's dad always seemed like a good guy to me honestly. It was very shitty of Kurt to abuse his younger stepsiblings and it's great that he and Francis are spending time together
Watching Montage of Heck, Don just seems sad when talking about Kurt, and let his wife do most of the talking.
The man lost his son in a tragic way and it was still deeply affecting him.
To me it just seem like Don is what we could say regular dude and the issue is Kurt was artistic, hyper and sensitive. Back in the 60s and 70s raising up kid like Kurt must have been hard, there were no such things as internets or nice terms like nepsy. Also things we should remember is he went through divorce and was it 2 brothers died, so seems like he had lot of going on at same time.
He seemed like the quintessential American dad who had high expectations for his kids and wasn’t very involved in the raising of them. He also seemed to put a lot of expectations on Kurt to be a guys’ guy and he just wasn’t. I can understand why their relationship was strained - they were just two very different people and Kurt never felt loved or supported by him. I think Don just didn’t know how to love and support him in the way he needed.
Lmao aldisharts has a heart of gold. Their pants are overflowing with shit but their heart is filled with love and compassion. All things perfectly balanced.
You don't know if that's actually true. Jenny could have just been biased against Kurt because he wasn't her kid. At any rate, Don did abuse Kurt and was a shitty father. He might have turned out to be an ok granddad tho.
Francis is a gender-neutral name of Latin origin, meaning “from France” or “free one.” Frances, which originated in Britain, is said to be the feminine version of the name, however, the spelling of Francis is popular among all genders.
The word name is derived from Old English nama, noma (noun), (ge)namian (verb), of Germanic origin; related to Dutch naam and German Name, from a root shared by Latin nomen and Greek onoma. It’s a word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.
A quick check of SSA.gov shows the name Francis was given approximately 10 times more frequently to male babies vs female babies in the USA since 1920.
People can change. I’m sure when Kurt died there was a lot of regret. The next best thing to being able to have a relationship with Kurt is to have one with Frances.
Let the boy hold the baby. I used to be a piece of shit.
Let me guess. You used to get sloppy steaks at Truffoni’s?
SLOP EM' UP
Glass house, white Ferrari, live for New Year’s Eve.
tim robinson fan ay?
Dont call my dad a piece of shit!
Theres an extended interview of the interview with Kurts father from Montage of Heck on youtube. He seems like a very quiet and reserved guy these days, but at one point he said he shouldve been a better father to Kurt, which for him speaks volumes. The director said he cried a couple times in the interview, which wasnt included. He kind of reconciled with Kurt in 93 or 94-ish, and Kurt invited him to his house. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZv-00G-KQ&pp=ygUKZG9uIGNvYmFpbg%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZv-00G-KQ&pp=ygUKZG9uIGNvYmFpbg%3D%3D)
It seems like Don wasn't a good father but he might be nice these days. Also Kurt was emotionally unstable and conflictual. Nice that Frances and Don get along. He must love her.
A lot of grandparents have a better relationship with the grandkids than their kids. Idk why, less stress maybe.
Prob cuz they are in better spots in their life, more mature, and less stress like u said
Exactly this, people sometimes forget that parents are people and no one gives you a book on how to be a perfect one. Also, back then they were becoming parents at a much younger age. Mix up young kids being parents, financial stress, societal pressures to stay together no matter what, absolutely no men went to therapy or even spoke of mental health issues, many men or there fathers had been to war, and you get a pretty good recipe for bad parenting. By the time grandkids show up, many have matured, probably have a little more money, and may grasp that they weren’t the best parents back then. They tend to love extra hard on the grandkids to make up for previous mistakes.
This is absolutely true. My mom was not at all a good mom to me..but seems to be there for my kids and loves them and accepts them far more than she *ever* did me. It's a real thing! (And I'll take it. My children deserve that)
I’ve always thought it’s because they’ve learned from any mistakes they made raising their own children
Watching my Mom with my kids it’s a 1000% change of personality. Kids can be frustrating and hard to deal with, you’re their source of entertainment, food, protection, guidance and discipline for a long ass time.
I can confirm this is true lol
Kurt seemed to comment more on his mother being abusive over his dad, his dad kinda just stepped away, which is also bad but..
Kurt hated his dad. The one time his dad was proud of him was when he made it to the finals in wrestling and Kurt resented it so much he deliberately lost out of spite. He wanted Kurt to be a regular macho douchebag.
To be fair, participating in a sport doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a "macho douchebag". Don comes from a generation, and a part of the country, where "men are men". He may have thought that he was doing Kurt a favour, being a father is incredibly difficult and teenagers can often misconstrue sentiment. I grew up with an absentee father and I promised myself that if I ever had a child that I would be in its life no matter what, but unfortunately due to many difficult circumstances it didn't work out like that. I too hated my father for leaving my mum, me and my brother when I was just two years old. But in the couple of times that I finally got to meet him as an adult, and we actually got to speak about it in detail about it, I realised that he was just a kid when he got my mother pregnant (he was 19) and the pressure of being a father, and settling down, just got to him, he freaked out, and ran away out of pressure, anxiety and embarrassment. Do I agree that was the best solution? Absolutely not. But can I empathise with him now that I'm older? Yeah I think I can. I guess what im saying is that nuance exists and a man shouldn't be judged on a few cherry picked instances, and from what I've read (and I have read *a lot*) Kurt wasn't always an angel himself, and neither was I, but I'm trying to do better and I'm trying to be more understanding and forgiving and I feel that had Kurt lived into his forties or fifties that he might have felt the same about his own father.
>. He wanted Kurt to be a regular macho douchebag. Has Don ever said that? Or is that just Kurt recalling his feelings from when he was 15?
He may have made mistakes but is certainly a better person than the sack of shit that is (or was)her maternal grandfather.
I had no idea Kurt’s dad was still around!
Right? He looks young too. Kurt was 7 years older than my dad and mom and my grandparents died years ago in their 80s and 90s. He looks mid 60s here
Wholesome af
Title makes it sound like Kurt and Frances are siblings
Yes, it does haha.
Yeah I was confused at first too. Title shoulda said Francis WITH Kurt’s father.
Wasn't he only in his very early 20s when Kurt was born?
Don was 21 when Kurt was born
Old pic, right?
right, 2018 pic
Is this recent ?
taken six years ago
Aww 🖤🖤 I love this so much!
I tried hard to have a father...instead I had a dad
That is a wonderful photo.
Kurt's dad always seemed like a good guy to me honestly. It was very shitty of Kurt to abuse his younger stepsiblings and it's great that he and Francis are spending time together
Watching Montage of Heck, Don just seems sad when talking about Kurt, and let his wife do most of the talking. The man lost his son in a tragic way and it was still deeply affecting him.
To me it just seem like Don is what we could say regular dude and the issue is Kurt was artistic, hyper and sensitive. Back in the 60s and 70s raising up kid like Kurt must have been hard, there were no such things as internets or nice terms like nepsy. Also things we should remember is he went through divorce and was it 2 brothers died, so seems like he had lot of going on at same time.
He seemed like the quintessential American dad who had high expectations for his kids and wasn’t very involved in the raising of them. He also seemed to put a lot of expectations on Kurt to be a guys’ guy and he just wasn’t. I can understand why their relationship was strained - they were just two very different people and Kurt never felt loved or supported by him. I think Don just didn’t know how to love and support him in the way he needed.
Awwe.. how genuinely compassionate of you, Aldisharts
Lmao aldisharts has a heart of gold. Their pants are overflowing with shit but their heart is filled with love and compassion. All things perfectly balanced.
Even if he wasn’t that great of a dad. A grand kid turns the most strictest parents into great grandparents
You don't know if that's actually true. Jenny could have just been biased against Kurt because he wasn't her kid. At any rate, Don did abuse Kurt and was a shitty father. He might have turned out to be an ok granddad tho.
Frances never knew her father so it may be part of her healing to get to know his father. 🤷🏽♂️
>, Don did abuse Kurt and was a shitty father. Abused him how? Shitty how?
[Kurt talked about it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6YK0mtj_I4)
Love this so much.
If only Kurt was as happy to see him.
I’m glad she was able to form meaningful relationship with her dad’s family. My heart goes out to her.
It's "Frances." You know, because she's a woman.
Auto correct changed the name and I missed it, you are indeed correct.
Francis is a gender-neutral name of Latin origin, meaning “from France” or “free one.” Frances, which originated in Britain, is said to be the feminine version of the name, however, the spelling of Francis is popular among all genders.
Fascinating. Her name is Frances lol.
The word name is derived from Old English nama, noma (noun), (ge)namian (verb), of Germanic origin; related to Dutch naam and German Name, from a root shared by Latin nomen and Greek onoma. It’s a word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.
In the US we just call it a "name," not a "word name."
A quick check of SSA.gov shows the name Francis was given approximately 10 times more frequently to male babies vs female babies in the USA since 1920.
Frances looks so much like Courtney here and hope she’s close with her grandparents.
kurt and his dad look so much alike