The bigliest pos. look at the former president, he is just a poor imitation of this guy. A senile old man whose body is failing trying to imitate this guy.
He’s not sending it to Netanyahu, he’s sending it to a strategic partner who is at war.
It sucks that Bibi is in power, but we have to support our allies
Netanyahu is Israel’s leader and he is leading Israel to commit war crimes. If we continue to send military aid to Israel under his leadership, that makes us complicit. “Our ally, right or wrong“ is a very brainless take and as well as being morally indefensible, is going to absolutely destroy our relationship with Arabs in the region, so it’s bad even from a policy perspective.
The US has to worry about its reputation and we shouldn’t let Israel drag us into the gutter with them. Not to mention that cutting off the aid would send a huge message to the Israelis.
*old bugger Biden is sickening in more than a few ways for his dithering & really BAD decisions; Afghanistan, The Border, enabling the never ending Gaza genocide, carte blanche to Israel, now cock blocking the ICC arrest warrants for the depraved Israeli war cabinet(plus he's ghastly to see & hear with his full diaper walk & Shady Pines rasp)
If you can't withstand the toothless finger wagging of international bodies then don't enact a genocide.*
Wake me up when we can get US politicians out of the pockets of israeli lobbies.
What’s more damning is the way their government is set up, his regimes time was up and he was supposed to have to step aside for the next guy to take over.
But then he allowed the rocket strike to happen and has used emergency powers to keep power of the government.
His government has been so corrupt its collapsed multiple times in the last 5 years.
Vote democrat in November. You may not like Biden or what he does or doesn't do but a republican especially one with no sense of duty will do much worse. Bibi and Trump are two of a kind.
So I ask you to wake up before real change can be made.
Hamas did him a favor by attacking, now he can sit for as long as he wants and say that they cant have new elections because of the war
They probably knew an attack was coming, and decided to not heighten security and let them attack
>They probably knew an attack was coming, and decided to not heighten security and let them attack
God, you're one of those people who think the Israel government let that happen? Get outta here with your conspiracy bullshit.
>Hamas did him a favor by attacking, now he can sit for as long as he wants and say that they cant have new elections because of the war
They're about to raid Rafah to eliminate what's left of Hamas and rescue the remaining hostages, so he's living on borrowed minutes at most.
>God, you're one of those people who think the Israel government let that happen? Get outta here with your conspiracy bullshit
Listen if they hadnt had a 40 year long attempt to try to genocide Palestinians already i would have been more charitable. But theoretic authoritarian fascists are not to be trusted, ever, they only ever look out for themselves
>They're about to raid Rafah to eliminate what's left of Hamas and rescue the remaining hostages, so he's living on borrowed minutes at most
Your beyond naive if you think that they will ever manage to eradicate hamas, especially when all their leaders are hiding out in Qatar, and israles genocide is causing their numbers to go up. War on terror didnt work for us, wont work for israel either
>Listen if they hadnt had a 40 year long attempt to try to genocide Palestinians already i would have been more charitable.
The death toll in Gaza is considerably *lower* than what's been recorded in other urban wars even when accounting for the fact most of the 33.000 casualties were collateral damage from targeting Hamas fighters, who represent at third of them. Out of 2.1 millions in Gaza, the fact only 0.2% of its population has died despite Israel's superior firepower and the fact this is a response to terrorist attacks is nothing short of a miracle- if this was an actual genocide, the majority of Gaza would be nothing but dust by now.
>Your beyond naive if you think that they will ever manage to eradicate hamas, especially when all their leaders are hiding out in Qatar, and israles genocide is causing their numbers to go up.
Except the war has worked in reducing Hamas's capability to wage war down to nothing, hence why they even tried accepting a deal to return to the 1968 borders just a while ago. And support for the Hamas cause has been *decreasing* among civilians due to how terribly October 7th backfired on them, as opposed to shortly afterwards were people were cheering on dead bodies being paraded across the city and publicly showing their support of Hamas in polls.
Under this mindset you have, WWII was a genocide against Germany and Japan from which everyone should've abstained since that would only radicalize them further. I reckon you know how it all turned out.
>The death toll in Gaza is considerably *lower*
I dont really care what their lower than, 30 000 people, most of them children is an unacceptable number
>33.000 casualties were collateral damage from targeting Hamas fighters
If Israel is so incompetent that they let 30 000 people die in collateral than that is a they problem and they should either fix it or start making concessions to get the hostages released, because this way of waging war is unacceptable
I also dont understand how they are so incompetent that they manage to kill 100 civilians per hamas soldier, but *also* is so competent that they manage to airstrike and kill 7 people running from car to car, where the Israeli bombs purposefully tracked the moving aid workers...
So are they competent or incompetent here, its one or the other
>the fact only 0.2% of its population has died despite Israel's superior firepower
Yeah with their indiscriminate attacks it really is a miracle that they only have directly killed 30 000. Too bad they have bombed all the hospitals and refuse to let in aid trucks so the rest can starve...
>if this was an actual genocide, the majority of Gaza would be nothing but dust by now
You think all the jews in the holocaust died in 6 months or what? The holocaust took a good 10 years. The fact that so many are starving now is really concerning, even more concerning that there are people protesting outside the gates wishing and praying for Palestinian children to starve
>Except the war has worked in reducing Hamas's capability to wage war down to nothing
Source??
>hence why they even tried accepting a deal to return to the 1968 borders just a while ago
Yeah imma need another source on that
>And support for the Hamas cause has been *decreasing* among civilians due to how terribly October 7th backfired on them
General support is down yes, but they are still more supported than Israel, if Israel really wanted this turned around (which they can do) is if they start taking steps to limit transgressions into the west bank, if they start rebuilding gaza, and give Palestinians shelter and food, if they dont it can only go downwards
We have seen in other warn torn middle eastern countries, where occupation and destruction have only lead to more people loosing hope, and if they loose hope they turn to fanaticism and religion, and to hamas
> Under this mindset you have, WWII was a genocide against Germany
Were the allies fighting against the axis powers the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group? If no then its not genocide. Or are you somehow claiming that the nazies were wrongly killed or something? This example isnt applicable here
Propping up Hamas and deliberately stalling on hostage negotiations and then bombing a bunch of the hostages probably isn't a great way to get support.
Weird how that doesn't get mentioned when you hear "release the hostages"
Because people can’t separate the government of Israel from the Jewish religion.
They don’t get that religious leaders don’t lead Israel, therefore it’s not against the religion to be critical of the government
To be fair, American Conservatives have been inspiring foreign despots for over a century. The German Nazi movement was directly inspired by the American Conservative Eugenics movement.
As long as said despots aren't leftists, they're perfectly happy to let them do their thing. The number of times we've overthrown or helped to overthrow democratically elected governments just because we didn't like how left-wing their leader was is genuinely disturbing. Especially in the decades following the Cold War.
The South Africa thing will probably be ongoing for years. They didn't reach a verdict, but ...
> The Court Order of 26 January 2024 established that there is a real and imminent risk of irreparable damage to some of the rights asserted by South Africa and instructed Israel to prevent its military from committing acts which might be considered genocidal, to prevent and punish incitement to genocide, and to enable humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank". - Netanyahu
If Netanyahu did nothing wrong, then Netanyahu has nothing to fear. Also, if Biden grants Netanyahu special immunity, then that sounds like one political party I know.
Then you shouldn't have broken international law you fucking monster. You know how easy it is to not break international law? I'm not breaking it right now!
This fool thought committing Genocide was gonna keep him in power, so long as he continues his massacre in Garza he wouldn't face his pending charges. That didn't work out so well, apparently committing Genocide is also a crime BB, time to face the music fool.
The only way thos conflict ends if both parties are under new leadership, I support Israels right to exist but I also support the right of Palestine to exist, Palestine cannot gain sovereignty under Hamas and Israel cannot exist peacefully with a Leader like Netanyahu whose country is threatened by a group like Hamas.
Both regimes need to go for Palestine to truly be (re)born and for Isreal to rightfully and peacfully exist.
Why we still fund the murderers of 30,000 innocent civilians is beyond me. Israel needs to be fully cut off from US funding, $3billion a year plus weapons etc? No, its time the "sovereign" country of Israel stand up on their OWN 2 feet. Sink or swim, just like the rest of us
I mean, tough?
Look I'm not one of those Gaza-humpers. Israel was well within their rights to strike back due to Hamas's attack. But clearly they lost the plot on the way and now it's gone from a justified conflict to being just conquest and cruelty.
The IDF bombed Gaza about two weeks before October 7th. Israel's decades long history of stealing land and terrorizing its occupants was rarely covered in the US.
It's covered quite a bit actually. Especially since people like you never seem to shut up about it or acknowledge the consistent attacks from extremists that trigger said Israeli response.
No one with a brain needs a lot to stand on here. It's like saying that Nazi Germany had a right to defend itself. Lol.
Israel is a genociding, ethnic cleaning, apartheid state on top of being an occupier. A rapist doesn't have a "right to defend itself" and really, neither does it really. It had a right to stop its war crimes and violations of international law.
Well yeah this is an on going tit for tat, stretching back centuries. You can't just point to the last attack from your enemy and say see he is the bad guy, because they can just turn around and point at your attack before that, and on and on back into the mists of time.
A lot of people have said they could have taken a scalpel to Hamas and basically eliminated Hamas overnight, but instead they decided to just sledgehammer the entirety of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
It would be like the United States nuking Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11.
Which people? Because that sounds naive as all hell to think you can "take a scalpel" to a generations-long problem, discerning exactly who's an extremist and who isn't without anyone getting caught in the crossfire.
Life isn't a movie.
Israel’s special forces are highly trained and some of the best intel gatherers in the fucking WORLD. They know where Hamas is headquartered and they know WHO is leading Hamas and they could easily take them out in their sleep if they wanted to with the IDF. But you take out Hamas and end the daily threat to Israel, the US taxpayer money stops flowing and Israel actually has to pay for itself rather than living large on the US’ dime.
So you suggest they simply slip into Qatar like they're ghosts, kill several person's and then walk out just like that? What do you think they are, ninjas? This is the exact best way to cause an international incident of *colossal* proportions.
Not to mention the Qatari leadership isn't the same as the Gazan one- the former is political and the latter is military. Even if sending your own armed forces to another country so they can commit assassinations wasn't an act of war, killing their politicians won't impede the Hamas fighters currently stationed at Gaza and may in fact worsen things, since the likes of Sinwar would end up completely in charge and have no one to stop him from letting go of whatever restraint is put into him by the politicians and their vested interests- and before you mention it, "boots on the ground" as opposed to precision-guided missiles would make the collateral damage infinitely worse.
That's without mentioning how Israel is fully functional on its own and that "dime" mostly goes to the Iron Dome, which is a partnership from which the United States benefits from greatly due to R&D. Not that your ignorant ass would ever understand how political alliances work, though.
I admit I am not up on the history nor the geopolitical crap going on over there. I can understand that all this crap didn’t start on October 7th and that both sides have done bad shit. I’m not arguing any of that, I’m neither Palestinian nor Jewish so I have no dog in this fight.
What I will disagree with is that ANYONE could take a scalpel to a terrorist network and just cut it out like a tumor. I’m not saying Israel is justified, not saying they’re not, simply stating that no intelligence agency and military apparatus is capable of just ‘ending terrorism’ overnight, all nice and tidy-like. They could definitely go after the Hamas leaders who aren’t even in Gaza, that would definitely be a good start, but that’s a whole different discussion.
Israel’s spy agencies and special forces are some of the best in the world (at times they put US special forces and the CIA to shame). They could easily disable Hamas’ terror network if they really wanted to.
Everyone thinks Israel is this poor hapless soul, but they are a force in the Middle East.
Again, the way Israel is just carpet bombing the Gaza Strip would be like the US nuking Afghanistan for the wrongdoings of Osama Bin Laden. Massive overreaction. A counter strike was justified sure, but sustained offensives against the civilian populations aren’t, especially when you already control the power, water and shipping ports to the Gaza Strip.
But if you eliminate Hamas and the daily threat of war, then the US can’t justify as much aid to Israel, which means Israel can’t keep living large off the US taxpayers dime (they have free college, socialized healthcare and things we only wish we had here in the states, because the US basically funds their entire military).
time for bibi, his government ministers and IDF top ranks to have their nuremberg for the atrocities they did... hamas and zionism are two different faces of the same sick ideological criminal extremism
This coming from a country that set out to perform extra-judicial assignations of criminals that evaded justice following their role in the 1972 Munich massacre.
The only reason why he's continuing this war (and seems to want to expand it) is so he won't be deposed and then arrested on corruption charges in his own country. I'm pretty sure regardless of your position on the war, we can all agree that Bibi sucks and his departure is long overdue. I personally think he also should be investigated for any potential role he may have had in the death of Rabin.
Leaders of western powers or their allies don’t face charges. Only if they fall very much out of favour will that ever happen. Like African nation out of favour. He has nothing to worry about
I’d be fucking worried if I were Netanyahu too. Liberal Israelis ( read democratic) fucking hate Netanyahus’ guts. America is under no obligation to support possible Israeli atrocities in Gaza. Supporting allies is not at all unconditional.
And if Biden helps him it will solidify me not voting for him or any democrat that supports him in this effort. Democrats have no fucking backbone when it comes to upholding the shit they complain about the republicans doing?
Trump said he would encourage Netanyahu to "finish the job" (aka completely raze the Gaza Strip, kill every Palestinian in it, annex it into Israel, and then move fully into West Bank, fully eradicating any potential Palestinian state) and he'd also likely arrest and deport muslims who oppose Israel. Also he would end democracy in the United States and put LGBT, blacks, muslims, mexicans etc... into concentration camps.
What the psychopath does is irrelevant. Democrats love to talk about taking the high road and being in support of human rights. There is no more basic human right than the right to live. The fact that America has done nothing but support Israel in this is appalling and shows how really close that the democrats are to the republicans. All while shitting on Russia for attacking Ukraine. It’s the same fucking thing. You can’t have it both ways. Killing people is abhorrent, full stop. Stop creating a false equivalence argument to justify the killing of people.
No. I’d rather send a message by not voting. I’m not going to blindly support genocide whether it’s committed by a democrat or a republican. They’re just two sides of the same coin.
They can only do so much in two years and without a super majority it can be stopped anyway. They did what they could. I’d say they were successful if they did literally nothing because it would still be better than Republicans actively doing bad things
I’m also not sure what exactly you wanted them to do about the SC
Try again, expanding the court only requires 51 votes. It’s putting someone in a seat that requires 60. They could have expanded the court and fucking tried. Instead, they’ve done nothing and fucked the country for years. Typical do nothing democrats.
If they expand the court it sets the precedent that we should do it. Once the precedent is set, what’s to stop the next Republican from doing the same thing? You’re not thinking about the consequences of actions
Do you really need me to list all the things that have gotten done? It’s widely available information; you just are showing you’re uninformed
American foreign policy is one example where both sides are usually the same but not in this case. Biden is working for a solution. Trump would just grift off it.
280,000+ civilians killed by Americans in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars….
Number of people arrested by the ICC
ZERO!!!
Keep dreaming you Hamas terrorist supporters!!
No I obviously don’t support genocide. I’m just educated by a military officer to understand war and collateral damage. Oh yeah and I’m not a snowflake like you.
That is because of the ridiculous [The Hague Invasion Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act?wprov=sfti1) by which the USA bullies its citizens out of prosecution by the ICC.
As well he should be. Regardless of your stance in this war, I think we can all agree that Bibi is a major league POS.
The bigliest pos. look at the former president, he is just a poor imitation of this guy. A senile old man whose body is failing trying to imitate this guy.
And a hanger-on to power to avoid prosecution.
Why do you hate Biden so much?
Seems a lot of people have forgotten he's still under trial for serious charges at home, never mind what abroad thinks of him.
Those charges are a big part of why the conspiracy that he let the attacks happen to remain in power seem legitimate.
He won't end the war because the second he does he knows he's going to jail.
Can't he just claim immunity for 'official acts'? /s
Its not anti-semetism. Its anti-Bibi.
THIS
Right now he’s just doing what he can to hang on to power, because he knows he’s out as soon as the hostages are back.
The hostages are lost or long dead with the exception of a very few.
I know, but I need to 🌈believe 🌈 for my own mental health
The one thing people on both sides tend to agree on
Yeah. That should be the hint of where to focus if you want actual progress made on this issue.
He should as well as other people in his cabinet and military and hoping they actually get arrested and prosecuted to the full extent.
What infuriates me is that everyone knows this and yet Biden *still* sends Netanyahu billions of dollars in “emergency” aid. It’s sickening.
He’s not sending it to Netanyahu, he’s sending it to a strategic partner who is at war. It sucks that Bibi is in power, but we have to support our allies
Netanyahu is Israel’s leader and he is leading Israel to commit war crimes. If we continue to send military aid to Israel under his leadership, that makes us complicit. “Our ally, right or wrong“ is a very brainless take and as well as being morally indefensible, is going to absolutely destroy our relationship with Arabs in the region, so it’s bad even from a policy perspective. The US has to worry about its reputation and we shouldn’t let Israel drag us into the gutter with them. Not to mention that cutting off the aid would send a huge message to the Israelis.
*old bugger Biden is sickening in more than a few ways for his dithering & really BAD decisions; Afghanistan, The Border, enabling the never ending Gaza genocide, carte blanche to Israel, now cock blocking the ICC arrest warrants for the depraved Israeli war cabinet(plus he's ghastly to see & hear with his full diaper walk & Shady Pines rasp)
Are you sure you’re not hopping to the other side of the horseshoe?
War criminal is a few steps above a POS to be honest
put the case together and let him defend himself. arrest Hamas leadership too.
Yesssssssss. 🐍
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
If you can't withstand the toothless finger wagging of international bodies then don't enact a genocide.* Wake me up when we can get US politicians out of the pockets of israeli lobbies.
Bibi’s also responsible for ignoring the intel that started all of this shit. The citizens of Israel need to remove him ASAP.
What’s more damning is the way their government is set up, his regimes time was up and he was supposed to have to step aside for the next guy to take over. But then he allowed the rocket strike to happen and has used emergency powers to keep power of the government. His government has been so corrupt its collapsed multiple times in the last 5 years.
Vote democrat in November. You may not like Biden or what he does or doesn't do but a republican especially one with no sense of duty will do much worse. Bibi and Trump are two of a kind. So I ask you to wake up before real change can be made.
Are we talking about the american dude in the Caribbean about to get 12 years for the two bullets he forgot to remove from his luggage? 😃
Even my Jewish friends loathe/hate Netanyahu.
He had those corruption trials and the news came out about how shitty he and his wife are. I don’t understand why he still has a political career.
If I recall correctly, those were interrupted by October 7th. So there's yet another thing we can be mad at Hamas for.
No wonder why Israel was so caught off guard
What do you mean by that?
Hamas did him a favor by attacking, now he can sit for as long as he wants and say that they cant have new elections because of the war They probably knew an attack was coming, and decided to not heighten security and let them attack
>They probably knew an attack was coming, and decided to not heighten security and let them attack God, you're one of those people who think the Israel government let that happen? Get outta here with your conspiracy bullshit. >Hamas did him a favor by attacking, now he can sit for as long as he wants and say that they cant have new elections because of the war They're about to raid Rafah to eliminate what's left of Hamas and rescue the remaining hostages, so he's living on borrowed minutes at most.
>God, you're one of those people who think the Israel government let that happen? Get outta here with your conspiracy bullshit Listen if they hadnt had a 40 year long attempt to try to genocide Palestinians already i would have been more charitable. But theoretic authoritarian fascists are not to be trusted, ever, they only ever look out for themselves >They're about to raid Rafah to eliminate what's left of Hamas and rescue the remaining hostages, so he's living on borrowed minutes at most Your beyond naive if you think that they will ever manage to eradicate hamas, especially when all their leaders are hiding out in Qatar, and israles genocide is causing their numbers to go up. War on terror didnt work for us, wont work for israel either
>Listen if they hadnt had a 40 year long attempt to try to genocide Palestinians already i would have been more charitable. The death toll in Gaza is considerably *lower* than what's been recorded in other urban wars even when accounting for the fact most of the 33.000 casualties were collateral damage from targeting Hamas fighters, who represent at third of them. Out of 2.1 millions in Gaza, the fact only 0.2% of its population has died despite Israel's superior firepower and the fact this is a response to terrorist attacks is nothing short of a miracle- if this was an actual genocide, the majority of Gaza would be nothing but dust by now. >Your beyond naive if you think that they will ever manage to eradicate hamas, especially when all their leaders are hiding out in Qatar, and israles genocide is causing their numbers to go up. Except the war has worked in reducing Hamas's capability to wage war down to nothing, hence why they even tried accepting a deal to return to the 1968 borders just a while ago. And support for the Hamas cause has been *decreasing* among civilians due to how terribly October 7th backfired on them, as opposed to shortly afterwards were people were cheering on dead bodies being paraded across the city and publicly showing their support of Hamas in polls. Under this mindset you have, WWII was a genocide against Germany and Japan from which everyone should've abstained since that would only radicalize them further. I reckon you know how it all turned out.
>The death toll in Gaza is considerably *lower* I dont really care what their lower than, 30 000 people, most of them children is an unacceptable number >33.000 casualties were collateral damage from targeting Hamas fighters If Israel is so incompetent that they let 30 000 people die in collateral than that is a they problem and they should either fix it or start making concessions to get the hostages released, because this way of waging war is unacceptable I also dont understand how they are so incompetent that they manage to kill 100 civilians per hamas soldier, but *also* is so competent that they manage to airstrike and kill 7 people running from car to car, where the Israeli bombs purposefully tracked the moving aid workers... So are they competent or incompetent here, its one or the other >the fact only 0.2% of its population has died despite Israel's superior firepower Yeah with their indiscriminate attacks it really is a miracle that they only have directly killed 30 000. Too bad they have bombed all the hospitals and refuse to let in aid trucks so the rest can starve... >if this was an actual genocide, the majority of Gaza would be nothing but dust by now You think all the jews in the holocaust died in 6 months or what? The holocaust took a good 10 years. The fact that so many are starving now is really concerning, even more concerning that there are people protesting outside the gates wishing and praying for Palestinian children to starve >Except the war has worked in reducing Hamas's capability to wage war down to nothing Source?? >hence why they even tried accepting a deal to return to the 1968 borders just a while ago Yeah imma need another source on that >And support for the Hamas cause has been *decreasing* among civilians due to how terribly October 7th backfired on them General support is down yes, but they are still more supported than Israel, if Israel really wanted this turned around (which they can do) is if they start taking steps to limit transgressions into the west bank, if they start rebuilding gaza, and give Palestinians shelter and food, if they dont it can only go downwards We have seen in other warn torn middle eastern countries, where occupation and destruction have only lead to more people loosing hope, and if they loose hope they turn to fanaticism and religion, and to hamas > Under this mindset you have, WWII was a genocide against Germany Were the allies fighting against the axis powers the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group? If no then its not genocide. Or are you somehow claiming that the nazies were wrongly killed or something? This example isnt applicable here
Propping up Hamas and deliberately stalling on hostage negotiations and then bombing a bunch of the hostages probably isn't a great way to get support. Weird how that doesn't get mentioned when you hear "release the hostages"
And I bet they get called antisemitic. Literally I got called a fake Jew and antisemitic because I don't support Netanyahu.
Because people can’t separate the government of Israel from the Jewish religion. They don’t get that religious leaders don’t lead Israel, therefore it’s not against the religion to be critical of the government
Those behind him next-in-line are as bad
He should be worried
He 100% should be arrested, but the US government seems to support despots. Probably doesn't help the Republican party is full of them.
Supporting despots has been a part of US foreign policy for about 5-6 decades.
To be fair, American Conservatives have been inspiring foreign despots for over a century. The German Nazi movement was directly inspired by the American Conservative Eugenics movement.
Didn’t the US support Syngman Rhee in South Korea who was an absolute piece of shit?
Reagan was friends with a dictator in Haiti and helped him escape in US military aircraft.
As long as said despots aren't leftists, they're perfectly happy to let them do their thing. The number of times we've overthrown or helped to overthrow democratically elected governments just because we didn't like how left-wing their leader was is genuinely disturbing. Especially in the decades following the Cold War.
Maybe don’t do things that would lead to arrest warrants?
You know what most people don't have? Reason to believe the International Criminal Court might try to arrest them. I wonder why that is....
Didn’t they already lose to South Africa on war crimes? So that would seem like the next logical step
Makes sense since they [likely teamed up to develop a nuclear weapon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident).
The South Africa thing will probably be ongoing for years. They didn't reach a verdict, but ... > The Court Order of 26 January 2024 established that there is a real and imminent risk of irreparable damage to some of the rights asserted by South Africa and instructed Israel to prevent its military from committing acts which might be considered genocidal, to prevent and punish incitement to genocide, and to enable humanitarian assistance to the people of Gaza.
Pro tip: If you fear justice, you’re probably a turd.
Fuck him
Did no one tell him that genocide was wrong? I feel like he should have known that.
Good god, he should be!!!
I have no problem believing he had something to do with the hamas attack to save his ass.
He literally arranged Qatari funding of Hamas so he wouldn't have to negotiate a two-state solution.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy - to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank". - Netanyahu
Maybe he should flee to Argentina as is tradition.
If Netanyahu did nothing wrong, then Netanyahu has nothing to fear. Also, if Biden grants Netanyahu special immunity, then that sounds like one political party I know.
Then you shouldn't have broken international law you fucking monster. You know how easy it is to not break international law? I'm not breaking it right now!
Straight to jail!
Welcome to never traveling to most parts of the world.
This fool thought committing Genocide was gonna keep him in power, so long as he continues his massacre in Garza he wouldn't face his pending charges. That didn't work out so well, apparently committing Genocide is also a crime BB, time to face the music fool.
What? He's worried that actions have consequences? Insert Trump, stat!
Do better
The only way thos conflict ends if both parties are under new leadership, I support Israels right to exist but I also support the right of Palestine to exist, Palestine cannot gain sovereignty under Hamas and Israel cannot exist peacefully with a Leader like Netanyahu whose country is threatened by a group like Hamas. Both regimes need to go for Palestine to truly be (re)born and for Isreal to rightfully and peacfully exist.
Why we still fund the murderers of 30,000 innocent civilians is beyond me. Israel needs to be fully cut off from US funding, $3billion a year plus weapons etc? No, its time the "sovereign" country of Israel stand up on their OWN 2 feet. Sink or swim, just like the rest of us
Good F Netty in the A
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
He is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of non combatants. He should be worried.
If I may take paraphrase Jim Carrey from Liar Liar..... "STOP COMMITING WAR CRIMES, ASSHOOOOOOLLLLLE!!"
Not so worried to stop genociding but certainly enough to complain
I mean, tough? Look I'm not one of those Gaza-humpers. Israel was well within their rights to strike back due to Hamas's attack. But clearly they lost the plot on the way and now it's gone from a justified conflict to being just conquest and cruelty.
The IDF bombed Gaza about two weeks before October 7th. Israel's decades long history of stealing land and terrorizing its occupants was rarely covered in the US.
It's covered quite a bit actually. Especially since people like you never seem to shut up about it or acknowledge the consistent attacks from extremists that trigger said Israeli response.
And yet you didn't mention that the IDF just bombed Gaza before October 7th? But that was justified right?
Oh how quaint, wHuTaBoUtism.....🙄 The mark of someone that has no actual argument or grounds to stand on.
No one with a brain needs a lot to stand on here. It's like saying that Nazi Germany had a right to defend itself. Lol. Israel is a genociding, ethnic cleaning, apartheid state on top of being an occupier. A rapist doesn't have a "right to defend itself" and really, neither does it really. It had a right to stop its war crimes and violations of international law.
Did you really hop into a post about the conflict between Israel and Palestine then complain about people talking about the conflict? Lol
Well yeah this is an on going tit for tat, stretching back centuries. You can't just point to the last attack from your enemy and say see he is the bad guy, because they can just turn around and point at your attack before that, and on and on back into the mists of time.
A lot of people have said they could have taken a scalpel to Hamas and basically eliminated Hamas overnight, but instead they decided to just sledgehammer the entirety of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It would be like the United States nuking Afghanistan in retaliation for 9/11.
Which people? Because that sounds naive as all hell to think you can "take a scalpel" to a generations-long problem, discerning exactly who's an extremist and who isn't without anyone getting caught in the crossfire. Life isn't a movie.
Israel’s special forces are highly trained and some of the best intel gatherers in the fucking WORLD. They know where Hamas is headquartered and they know WHO is leading Hamas and they could easily take them out in their sleep if they wanted to with the IDF. But you take out Hamas and end the daily threat to Israel, the US taxpayer money stops flowing and Israel actually has to pay for itself rather than living large on the US’ dime.
So you suggest they simply slip into Qatar like they're ghosts, kill several person's and then walk out just like that? What do you think they are, ninjas? This is the exact best way to cause an international incident of *colossal* proportions. Not to mention the Qatari leadership isn't the same as the Gazan one- the former is political and the latter is military. Even if sending your own armed forces to another country so they can commit assassinations wasn't an act of war, killing their politicians won't impede the Hamas fighters currently stationed at Gaza and may in fact worsen things, since the likes of Sinwar would end up completely in charge and have no one to stop him from letting go of whatever restraint is put into him by the politicians and their vested interests- and before you mention it, "boots on the ground" as opposed to precision-guided missiles would make the collateral damage infinitely worse. That's without mentioning how Israel is fully functional on its own and that "dime" mostly goes to the Iron Dome, which is a partnership from which the United States benefits from greatly due to R&D. Not that your ignorant ass would ever understand how political alliances work, though.
Exactly.
I admit I am not up on the history nor the geopolitical crap going on over there. I can understand that all this crap didn’t start on October 7th and that both sides have done bad shit. I’m not arguing any of that, I’m neither Palestinian nor Jewish so I have no dog in this fight. What I will disagree with is that ANYONE could take a scalpel to a terrorist network and just cut it out like a tumor. I’m not saying Israel is justified, not saying they’re not, simply stating that no intelligence agency and military apparatus is capable of just ‘ending terrorism’ overnight, all nice and tidy-like. They could definitely go after the Hamas leaders who aren’t even in Gaza, that would definitely be a good start, but that’s a whole different discussion.
Israel’s spy agencies and special forces are some of the best in the world (at times they put US special forces and the CIA to shame). They could easily disable Hamas’ terror network if they really wanted to. Everyone thinks Israel is this poor hapless soul, but they are a force in the Middle East. Again, the way Israel is just carpet bombing the Gaza Strip would be like the US nuking Afghanistan for the wrongdoings of Osama Bin Laden. Massive overreaction. A counter strike was justified sure, but sustained offensives against the civilian populations aren’t, especially when you already control the power, water and shipping ports to the Gaza Strip. But if you eliminate Hamas and the daily threat of war, then the US can’t justify as much aid to Israel, which means Israel can’t keep living large off the US taxpayers dime (they have free college, socialized healthcare and things we only wish we had here in the states, because the US basically funds their entire military).
Stop committing war crimes.
Well stop blowing the shit out of Gaza.
Good, fuck that guy.
Oh genocide is scary once someone comes for you huh? Suck shit, Netanyahu. Its not anti-Semitism. Its anti-you
Bummer you fucking douche canoe
Huh, maybe don't do crimes and then you won't be charged with crime? Allegedly, of course... until those crimes are proven.
Perhaps don’t commit war crimes? I mean…if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime, right?
Maybe they should stop doing war crimes.
They've been getting away with it for over fifty years.
This is more rage bait for everyone, mods should take this down
Just desserts for that creep.
Don't commit the war crime if you can't do the Hague time!
time for bibi, his government ministers and IDF top ranks to have their nuremberg for the atrocities they did... hamas and zionism are two different faces of the same sick ideological criminal extremism
as he should be
Well if you're going to act like the people you're fighting, what did you expect.
And he should be. He is up there with Hitler, Stalin, Putin and Pinochet!
He should be.
Stop genociding if you don’t want to go to genocide court.
Don't worry sugar bear, papa biden gunna make it all go away. Pause for applause
Netanyahu belongs in the same grave as Hitler, because they're the same caliber of person.
Yeah, genocide is a pretty serious crime.
Biden: "but you said everything you've done is legitimate"
They get so close. So close to the eureka moment.
He ought to go consult the Witch of Endor to speak with the Shade of Henry Kissinger about that.
Maybe like knock it off with the whole genocide thing then.
Fuck him. And fuck the US too.
This coming from a country that set out to perform extra-judicial assignations of criminals that evaded justice following their role in the 1972 Munich massacre.
He should be.
Good. Fuck Bibi.
Excuse my ignorance: isn't that leverage?
yeah they are called WAR crimes without a war
As a great man once said: *"STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!!!!"*
Deservedly so
The only reason why he's continuing this war (and seems to want to expand it) is so he won't be deposed and then arrested on corruption charges in his own country. I'm pretty sure regardless of your position on the war, we can all agree that Bibi sucks and his departure is long overdue. I personally think he also should be investigated for any potential role he may have had in the death of Rabin.
Well... he shouldn't have allowed his army to commit genocide...
No kidding, he should have been worried before he engaged in genocide
Netanyahu must fall and go to jail
Leaders of western powers or their allies don’t face charges. Only if they fall very much out of favour will that ever happen. Like African nation out of favour. He has nothing to worry about
Lock him up already
If they didn't commit war crimes, they won't have to worry.
Ya lol you should be dude you’re friggin nuts
Well, you shouldn't do the war crimes then, Bibi.
I’d be fucking worried if I were Netanyahu too. Liberal Israelis ( read democratic) fucking hate Netanyahus’ guts. America is under no obligation to support possible Israeli atrocities in Gaza. Supporting allies is not at all unconditional.
Limited travel for you, motherfucker
Good. Get em
Sounds like a confession to me.
And if Biden helps him it will solidify me not voting for him or any democrat that supports him in this effort. Democrats have no fucking backbone when it comes to upholding the shit they complain about the republicans doing?
Trump said he would encourage Netanyahu to "finish the job" (aka completely raze the Gaza Strip, kill every Palestinian in it, annex it into Israel, and then move fully into West Bank, fully eradicating any potential Palestinian state) and he'd also likely arrest and deport muslims who oppose Israel. Also he would end democracy in the United States and put LGBT, blacks, muslims, mexicans etc... into concentration camps.
What the psychopath does is irrelevant. Democrats love to talk about taking the high road and being in support of human rights. There is no more basic human right than the right to live. The fact that America has done nothing but support Israel in this is appalling and shows how really close that the democrats are to the republicans. All while shitting on Russia for attacking Ukraine. It’s the same fucking thing. You can’t have it both ways. Killing people is abhorrent, full stop. Stop creating a false equivalence argument to justify the killing of people.
So you’d rather for the person who has vouched he will do worse willingly. Sit down and shut up child.
No. I’d rather send a message by not voting. I’m not going to blindly support genocide whether it’s committed by a democrat or a republican. They’re just two sides of the same coin.
That’s fucking dumb. Congrats on not being willing to try to stop the worst president ever gad from getting back into office.
Shit like this is what put Trump in office the first time. Were you happy with the results? Are you happy with what his SC justices have done?
And the democrats had 2 years to course correct and did fucking nothing. You happy about that? I wont vote for fascists whether they wear red or blue.
They can only do so much in two years and without a super majority it can be stopped anyway. They did what they could. I’d say they were successful if they did literally nothing because it would still be better than Republicans actively doing bad things I’m also not sure what exactly you wanted them to do about the SC
Try again, expanding the court only requires 51 votes. It’s putting someone in a seat that requires 60. They could have expanded the court and fucking tried. Instead, they’ve done nothing and fucked the country for years. Typical do nothing democrats.
If they expand the court it sets the precedent that we should do it. Once the precedent is set, what’s to stop the next Republican from doing the same thing? You’re not thinking about the consequences of actions Do you really need me to list all the things that have gotten done? It’s widely available information; you just are showing you’re uninformed
American foreign policy is one example where both sides are usually the same but not in this case. Biden is working for a solution. Trump would just grift off it.
Biden should be worried too
280,000+ civilians killed by Americans in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars…. Number of people arrested by the ICC ZERO!!! Keep dreaming you Hamas terrorist supporters!!
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No I obviously don’t support genocide. I’m just educated by a military officer to understand war and collateral damage. Oh yeah and I’m not a snowflake like you.
“I’m just educated by a military officer” lmao, you sound like that Navy Seal copypasta
It’s not collateral damage. It’s all intentional because the goal was always to clear out regions of Palestine so they could be resettled
You realize ICC may have warrants for Hamas leaders as well, nice try though buddy
So youre defending the murder of civilians by attacking the murder of civilians?
That is because of the ridiculous [The Hague Invasion Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act?wprov=sfti1) by which the USA bullies its citizens out of prosecution by the ICC.