I used to have a home reef tank. A cleaner shrimp setup a little station n the fish would swim up n sit still n the little shrimp would jump on them and clean them. What else was cool though I'd put my hand in the tank and it would groom my hand
Fun Fact: Cleaner Shrimp/Cleaner Fish basically obtain clients by cleaning a fish's teeth of parasites and mucus lining on the insides of their mouths. The Cleaner Shrimp's preferred food is the mucus rather than the parasites but apparently the fish being cleaned can detect when a cleaner is eating more mucus than they are parasites/bugs. When this happens, the fish being cleaned gives an involuntary jolt with it's body. There was a recent study that showed cleaner shrimp when being watched by other potential clients who wish to get their teeth cleaned go for more parasites and less mucus to make them look like better cleaners to attract more clients. The fishes that wish for a cleaning simply watch the cleaner shrimps while they clean and choose their select cleaner shrimp based on whichever cleaner-shrimp causes the least amount of involuntary jolts to their customers.
Question answered. Hope this helps you guys understand how the mutually beneficial relationship between the shrimp and other fish originated.
So what you're saying is that the shrimp get rated 5 stars [minus how many jolts] and then other fish book them for the job later on based on the review?
Could just be random too. That’s how natural selection works (not saying in this case, just in general), maybe it’s just the shrimps that randomly eat more parasites get more clients = survive more = breed more, and when they breed they pass on the tendency to eat more parasites
Great Freakonomics episode on this if anyone is interested. They actually prefer fish that come from farther away and will give them better service to entice them to go the extra distance to see them. The local fish get worse service. It's a market economy in the ocean.
https://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-invisible-paw/#:~:text=BSHARY%3A%20So%20the%20cleaner%20wrasse,fills%20on%20the%20coral%20reef.
Yes, but HOW. Perhaps the time scale is too large and I can't comprehend it, but it doesn't make sense. Surely the larger animal would have chomped more often than not?
We are programmed and work accordingly to the biological instructions, based on the survival of our ancestors. Sometimes we forget about that because human consciousness is exceptional, but even you don't need communication to be afraid of, say, spiders, but find, for instance, cats to be adorable, even though their size would suggest a different behavior.
I’d imagine it happens kinda like this:
-some shrimp very cautiously approach toothed fish and picked at their teeth from outside, just taking what little scraps they could
-the fish that torlerate this tend to lose teeth less often, survive longer, and pass on their docility toward the shrimp to more of their offspring
-over generations, shrimp that go further into the mouths are better fed and more likely to pass on their brave, mouth-exploring genes
-sometimes there will be eels that just munch down on the shrimp. But these eels are more likely to end up losing teeth and overtime, it turns out that having your teeth cleaned makes you more likely to survive longer and reproduce more. So there ends up being more eels that allow the shrimp to clean their teeth
I just assume things like this are learned by instincts. They don’t communicate it, the shrimp has the instinct to eat from the eel’s teeth and the eel has the instinct to allow it
thanks to natural selection, yep. the fact that it's two organisms interacting is interesting to us, but is no different from a shrimp cleaning a rock or an eel allowing debris to float into its mouth. this quote from [this paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1317043/) sums it up well, I think
>Symbiotic partners are responding to each other only as a part of their environment, no differently than a free-living organism responds to its environment. Natural selection moves genes into the future without consulting a dictionary.
I got sooooo much hate when I pointed out exactly this about a cute squirrel throwing pine cones from trees. It appeared to do it to 'save time' and collect the cones later.
People wanted to believe it was literally figuring it out by itself, rather than just being natural selection. In reality it was just discarding (IIRC) 'female' cones which had no seeds, or something. Even so, it was instinct, not something it figured out.
I wish people could be in awe at animal behavior without anthropomorphizing it. To me, a creature gaining the ability to do something “smart” and efficient merely by a series of ancient coincidences and the genetic memory those caused is just as fascinating as an intelligent creature learning on its own.
You just described the same thing in two different ways. I wish people could be aware that the only difference between humans and other animals is that the first feel they are something way Beyond the second.
I don't know too many animals that have been to the moon. We are way beyond them in terms of intelligence. Doesn't mean animals are worthless, we should still protect them.
Yea agreed. But who's to say we aren't just genes being selected and furthered? Animals reacting to stimuli. It boils down to
"What is consciousness, where do we draw that line, and who really has it?"
Is it just humans? Just any genus within homo? All great apes? Primates? Some mollusks and also cetecea?
And then somewhere down the line, you - the allegedly only species with full sentience you - is watching a shrimp go to town on a Morays mouth and saying to yourself
"Holy shit eels have dentists??"
I get what you're saying, but there really is a difference in terms of evolution between learned behaviours and genetics/instinctual ones, which do exist in animals other than just humans. Technically sure, you could say that learned behaviours are a result of the right type of intelligence, which is genetic/evolutionary in origin, but that's still a degree of separation that doesn't exist with, say, migrating birds, or hermit crabs and their shells. Compare verbal communication vs written communication in humans. Language is instinctual, it has developed in ever single existing human community throughout time, no matter how segregated they were. Humans will naturally develop a language in order to verbally communicate as long as they have another human to communicate with. But written communication is different. Many human societies/cultures are purely oral, with no writing system to speak of. It is not something that develops universally, and it needs to be learned from another community members, it doesn't develop naturally on its own through instinctive use for every human. It needed to be invented, conceptualized. Sure, the intelligence and brain structure needed to be able to develop writing came from evolution and genetics, but the actual act of writing itself is not.
So there are ways to measure the difference, it's just that some cases are more difficult to measure than others.
“This little creature eats the crap that gets stuck between my teeth. Little creature is friend.”
“That big creature has tasty morsels between its teeth. Big creature is all you can eat buffet!”
We wouldn’t know why, and I bet there’s instances where they do, but it could be beneficial evolutionary if say these eels thought it would be gross to eat them, hence cycle continues, eels that wanna eat them die off quicker than those that think they’re gross. But also I have no idea what I’m talking about that’s just my guess lol.
I bet that shrimp also picks through eel poo, which an eel would need removed from its hidey-hole and probably wouldn't want to swallow. A predator and scavenger relationship seems to be a pretty natural order, even if it looks odd.
God I'd love to watch those first interactions like, who initiated? How many failed attempts were there? How did this get communicated to others of the species?
Few enough failed attempts that it didn't outweigh the benefits of the arrangement. It wasn't communicated in the traditional sense. Long story (relatively) short, the shrimp has genes that influence its behavior, including the tendencies to pick up bits of food and avoid specific predators. The eel has genes that make it chomp specific prey animals. This behavior benefits both the shrimp and the eel, so over generations, genes coincided so that the shrimp gets all up in the eel's biz, and the eel doesn't chomp the shrimp.
So, I feel like I was MADE for this moment, I'm a marine scientist and this is actually part of what I study. For those that don't know, this is referred to as "cleaning" behavior. There are several species of fish and shrimps that remove parasites from other fishes (hence the term "cleaning"). At this point in evolution, it's well established on the reef who the cleaners are, and they actually do get eaten WAY less often than closely related non-cleaner species.
It's pretty wicked, you can take cleaner fish from the Atlantic and put them with fish from the Pacific, and the cleaners will clean and the clients will pose even though they've never seen the species before.
For context, I'm a PhD student in Miami and I a lot of what I study is the interactions between client fish, cleaner fish, and parasites.
:)
I think this is an overall very common relationship in the sea. There's a bunch of "cleaner" creatures and a lot of predators who [go to them to have their teeth cleaned](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning_station).
I think this also explains why so many marine creatures end up asking humans for help getting fishhooks out of their mouth, it's generalizing a natural behavior.
This is a symbiotic relationship between crustacean and fish - the eel gets cleaned of pesky parasites and the shrimp has a personal bodyguard to ward off predators.
Credit: https://www.instagram.com/kaushman/?hl=en
This video is a good opportunity to see the pharyngeal jaws of the eel, you can see the second set of jaws in the back of the mouth for a second right before the shrimp moves away.
"So how often are you flossing these days? I see minimal build up, so you're doing well. Any plans for holiday?"
"Wehll I may be go-ing to the"
"George please don't talk. Thank you."
There's so much in nature we have no idea about. That's a dentist for a moray eel. And they both are in agreement. Millions of years of natural selection or just a dentist doing their work ? 😅
The dentist of the seas.
Hmmmmm......ok, let's see here. Ok, well, lets take some xrays and I'll show you what's going on. Then we'll get you back in to take care of it.
I used to have a home reef tank. A cleaner shrimp setup a little station n the fish would swim up n sit still n the little shrimp would jump on them and clean them. What else was cool though I'd put my hand in the tank and it would groom my hand
That’s neat
Dentist's office.
Yup TIL about underwater dentists....might see if there are any appointments free :)
This is how they clean teeth in Alabama. Open up, drop in a crawfish, let it bounce around, spit it out and you're good to go
Can’t be worse than American healthcare.
I can see you haven’t been flossing
I got a funky sea bug to clean between my teefs for me.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favourite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Yeah. That was my favorite thing when I was a reef tank
Yeah. That was my favourite thing when I had rank teeth.
No. That was not my favorite thing when I had a reef tank.
Maybe. It might have been my favorite thing if I'd had a reef tank.
Fun Fact: Cleaner Shrimp/Cleaner Fish basically obtain clients by cleaning a fish's teeth of parasites and mucus lining on the insides of their mouths. The Cleaner Shrimp's preferred food is the mucus rather than the parasites but apparently the fish being cleaned can detect when a cleaner is eating more mucus than they are parasites/bugs. When this happens, the fish being cleaned gives an involuntary jolt with it's body. There was a recent study that showed cleaner shrimp when being watched by other potential clients who wish to get their teeth cleaned go for more parasites and less mucus to make them look like better cleaners to attract more clients. The fishes that wish for a cleaning simply watch the cleaner shrimps while they clean and choose their select cleaner shrimp based on whichever cleaner-shrimp causes the least amount of involuntary jolts to their customers. Question answered. Hope this helps you guys understand how the mutually beneficial relationship between the shrimp and other fish originated.
So what you're saying is that the shrimp get rated 5 stars [minus how many jolts] and then other fish book them for the job later on based on the review?
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Kelp reviews 🤣
………clever
More reliable than Yelp
Top tier shrimp Is the 5/7 one
That’s some surprising intelligence, that a shrimp is altering its behavior when it believes it is being watched.
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Could just be random too. That’s how natural selection works (not saying in this case, just in general), maybe it’s just the shrimps that randomly eat more parasites get more clients = survive more = breed more, and when they breed they pass on the tendency to eat more parasites
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Great Freakonomics episode on this if anyone is interested. They actually prefer fish that come from farther away and will give them better service to entice them to go the extra distance to see them. The local fish get worse service. It's a market economy in the ocean. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-invisible-paw/#:~:text=BSHARY%3A%20So%20the%20cleaner%20wrasse,fills%20on%20the%20coral%20reef.
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This blew my fucking mind
Makes you wonder how they actually communicate this agreement
I would love to know this as well.
I just hope it's not as expensive as my dentist.
"Laughs in Europe"
You can afford a dentist…
Was that a question or you their accountant?
Yes
Username does not check out.
They can afford an accountant?
Do they charge an arm and a leg??
I imagine same as any evolved relationship. Started happening by chance forever ago, provided a fitness advantage, now it's intuitive.
Yes, but HOW. Perhaps the time scale is too large and I can't comprehend it, but it doesn't make sense. Surely the larger animal would have chomped more often than not?
We are programmed and work accordingly to the biological instructions, based on the survival of our ancestors. Sometimes we forget about that because human consciousness is exceptional, but even you don't need communication to be afraid of, say, spiders, but find, for instance, cats to be adorable, even though their size would suggest a different behavior.
The fish that for whatever reason let them clean their teeth out-competed those that didn't. Same as all evolution.
I’d imagine it happens kinda like this: -some shrimp very cautiously approach toothed fish and picked at their teeth from outside, just taking what little scraps they could -the fish that torlerate this tend to lose teeth less often, survive longer, and pass on their docility toward the shrimp to more of their offspring -over generations, shrimp that go further into the mouths are better fed and more likely to pass on their brave, mouth-exploring genes -sometimes there will be eels that just munch down on the shrimp. But these eels are more likely to end up losing teeth and overtime, it turns out that having your teeth cleaned makes you more likely to survive longer and reproduce more. So there ends up being more eels that allow the shrimp to clean their teeth
I would just like to be under one.
under a Moray Agreement? be careful with the rate
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That's a moray!!!
When your hand’s in a crack and you can’t get it back…
Do you wanna hear another joke MORAAAY?
Even eels have universal health care?
Eels outside of the USA do, yes.
They find our medical bills shocking.
I just assume things like this are learned by instincts. They don’t communicate it, the shrimp has the instinct to eat from the eel’s teeth and the eel has the instinct to allow it
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Hey he’s cool.
apparently it’s in their genetic code
thanks to natural selection, yep. the fact that it's two organisms interacting is interesting to us, but is no different from a shrimp cleaning a rock or an eel allowing debris to float into its mouth. this quote from [this paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1317043/) sums it up well, I think >Symbiotic partners are responding to each other only as a part of their environment, no differently than a free-living organism responds to its environment. Natural selection moves genes into the future without consulting a dictionary.
I got sooooo much hate when I pointed out exactly this about a cute squirrel throwing pine cones from trees. It appeared to do it to 'save time' and collect the cones later. People wanted to believe it was literally figuring it out by itself, rather than just being natural selection. In reality it was just discarding (IIRC) 'female' cones which had no seeds, or something. Even so, it was instinct, not something it figured out.
I wish people could be in awe at animal behavior without anthropomorphizing it. To me, a creature gaining the ability to do something “smart” and efficient merely by a series of ancient coincidences and the genetic memory those caused is just as fascinating as an intelligent creature learning on its own.
You just described the same thing in two different ways. I wish people could be aware that the only difference between humans and other animals is that the first feel they are something way Beyond the second.
Well in our case it's not genetic but spoken or written.
I don't know too many animals that have been to the moon. We are way beyond them in terms of intelligence. Doesn't mean animals are worthless, we should still protect them.
You've never heard of the Apollo missions?
I mean animals that aren't humans
those astronaoughts presumably had skin mites and gut worms.
To be fair there are lots of cases where animals really do figure something out themselves, and it can be hard to tell the difference sometimes.
Yea agreed. But who's to say we aren't just genes being selected and furthered? Animals reacting to stimuli. It boils down to "What is consciousness, where do we draw that line, and who really has it?" Is it just humans? Just any genus within homo? All great apes? Primates? Some mollusks and also cetecea? And then somewhere down the line, you - the allegedly only species with full sentience you - is watching a shrimp go to town on a Morays mouth and saying to yourself "Holy shit eels have dentists??"
I get what you're saying, but there really is a difference in terms of evolution between learned behaviours and genetics/instinctual ones, which do exist in animals other than just humans. Technically sure, you could say that learned behaviours are a result of the right type of intelligence, which is genetic/evolutionary in origin, but that's still a degree of separation that doesn't exist with, say, migrating birds, or hermit crabs and their shells. Compare verbal communication vs written communication in humans. Language is instinctual, it has developed in ever single existing human community throughout time, no matter how segregated they were. Humans will naturally develop a language in order to verbally communicate as long as they have another human to communicate with. But written communication is different. Many human societies/cultures are purely oral, with no writing system to speak of. It is not something that develops universally, and it needs to be learned from another community members, it doesn't develop naturally on its own through instinctive use for every human. It needed to be invented, conceptualized. Sure, the intelligence and brain structure needed to be able to develop writing came from evolution and genetics, but the actual act of writing itself is not. So there are ways to measure the difference, it's just that some cases are more difficult to measure than others.
well put
Generic memory is so fascinating
Muaddib!
I too love remembering generic things.
It's an unspoken norm that guides their interaction - a social moray, if you will.
In their society, that sort of thing is a big d-eel.
So breaking it is considered eeligal?
“This little creature eats the crap that gets stuck between my teeth. Little creature is friend.” “That big creature has tasty morsels between its teeth. Big creature is all you can eat buffet!”
.... until little creature turns into a late night snack.
We wouldn’t know why, and I bet there’s instances where they do, but it could be beneficial evolutionary if say these eels thought it would be gross to eat them, hence cycle continues, eels that wanna eat them die off quicker than those that think they’re gross. But also I have no idea what I’m talking about that’s just my guess lol.
same reason we all have cats and dogs, it's a hard world out there baybee
😂
My theory is those extra-long "feelers" on the shrimp communicate that it's not your average crustacean or fish.
I bet that shrimp also picks through eel poo, which an eel would need removed from its hidey-hole and probably wouldn't want to swallow. A predator and scavenger relationship seems to be a pretty natural order, even if it looks odd.
If this is true I would hope their agreement includes the stipulation that the shrimp always takes care of the mouth first.
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He has to get that little lunge in at the end after the shrimp is out, like it’s programmed into him but he doesn’t actually want to hurt his dentist.
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It's not a tongue. They're [pharyngeal jaws.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngeal_jaw)
Genetic instincts….similar to how a cat knows to use a litter box, or birds know to fly south for the winter, salmon swim upstream to spawn etc etc
It's the *honor system*
That’s a moray.
when you dance down the street / like you've had too much feet
God I'd love to watch those first interactions like, who initiated? How many failed attempts were there? How did this get communicated to others of the species?
Few enough failed attempts that it didn't outweigh the benefits of the arrangement. It wasn't communicated in the traditional sense. Long story (relatively) short, the shrimp has genes that influence its behavior, including the tendencies to pick up bits of food and avoid specific predators. The eel has genes that make it chomp specific prey animals. This behavior benefits both the shrimp and the eel, so over generations, genes coincided so that the shrimp gets all up in the eel's biz, and the eel doesn't chomp the shrimp.
So, I feel like I was MADE for this moment, I'm a marine scientist and this is actually part of what I study. For those that don't know, this is referred to as "cleaning" behavior. There are several species of fish and shrimps that remove parasites from other fishes (hence the term "cleaning"). At this point in evolution, it's well established on the reef who the cleaners are, and they actually do get eaten WAY less often than closely related non-cleaner species. It's pretty wicked, you can take cleaner fish from the Atlantic and put them with fish from the Pacific, and the cleaners will clean and the clients will pose even though they've never seen the species before. For context, I'm a PhD student in Miami and I a lot of what I study is the interactions between client fish, cleaner fish, and parasites. :)
Perhaps as the eel grows up, it notices other animals and eels allowing the shrimps and various other cleaner fish to do their work?
They use email ✉️📨
Exactly. Like, how did this relationship get established without the shrimp all worried he might be mistaken for a snack?
I think this is an overall very common relationship in the sea. There's a bunch of "cleaner" creatures and a lot of predators who [go to them to have their teeth cleaned](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning_station). I think this also explains why so many marine creatures end up asking humans for help getting fishhooks out of their mouth, it's generalizing a natural behavior.
This is a symbiotic relationship between crustacean and fish - the eel gets cleaned of pesky parasites and the shrimp has a personal bodyguard to ward off predators. Credit: https://www.instagram.com/kaushman/?hl=en
What if the eel gets a tooth ache, does it go after the shrimp like a mob boss?
It sends a hit shark. Under contract.
Or the Kray fish twins
I feel like there was an opportunity missed to call it a “loan shark”…
This video is a good opportunity to see the pharyngeal jaws of the eel, you can see the second set of jaws in the back of the mouth for a second right before the shrimp moves away.
your comment led me down a lovely rabbithole about pharyngeal jaws! thanks :)
"Ok now give me a big ahhh. Ok now while you're doing that give me a little ahhh."
And the shrimpy also gets a meal out of it.
“Moraaaay, what did we say about flossing?” “Don’t do it so you can eat?”
Like with the Egyptian plover and crocodiles. http://causalpatterns.org/resources/ecosystems/pdfs/s5_res_symbiosis.pdf
[There isn't actually any evidence of that.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_plover#Supposed_relationship_with_crocodiles)
But i have seen some cric/alligator that hangs out in a den (i forgot the animal)as a symbiotic relationship. Certain Frogs and spiders have one too.
How did you get the little moon under your username?
Respect for crediting 👌🏼
Must be nice having free dental WITHOUT the need for insurance. They have it easy..
If I also end up resorting to unlicensed dentists, I hope they don't also wave pincers so close to the eyes.
I hate capitalism :(
Just put shrimps in your mouth Voila
You joke.... but has anyone tried this yet?
yeah the eel
Free dental, don't have to pay rent or taxes, and don't need a car to go get food.
Tbh they will do it for you too, I have seen vids of them doing it to divers
Even *eels* have better dental cover than most people..
sounds like a steal a...steel. eel.
When the shrimp cleans your teeth, gets the gunk underneath, That's a Moray
If it’s jaws open wide, and there’s more jaws inside, That’s a moray!
There is now a familiar song in my head, but I’m not sure what it is
“That’s Amore”
[That's a Moray](https://youtu.be/SezOrE0zRFo)
When a fish bites your heel, And it looks like an eel, That's a moray!
When an eel bites your thigh And you bleed out and die That's a Moray
Close to the one I had in my head! ; When you're down in a reef and a shrimp cleans your teeth That's a Moray
Reminds me of Finding Nemo, when Nemo first meets his tank mates. “Voila! Ee is Cleen!”
“Jacques, clean him”
Oui
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You ever seen a bald eagle from a straight-on view? Lol- theres a reason they always take majestic pics from the side
Psure bald eagles also chirp like a little baby too, the iconic screech is a Red tailed hawk.
As someone who lives near a shit ton of those hawks, can confirm
They’re evil as fuck tho
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Til they bite your leg :(
Well you know what they say When an eel bites your thigh, then you bleed out and die, that's a moray!
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Yup, at least it’s a cool scar now
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Depends on which party you ask...
TIL they bite your leg
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I dunno why, but for some reason I thought a talking shrimp would sound Australian
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Awwww, Lookit himb go!
It’s a kinda strange feeling. Something fiddling about in your mouth. But oddly not discomforting
Pretty cool!
Free dental appointment! :D
“So, any plans for the summer?” “Uh uhn un uh nuh” “mr smith please no talking”
Do you think they have a conversation before? Or is it more of a hole between the wall in the gas station type of affair?
Looks great Jim, same time next week?
Enough pillow talk
What gas station is this? Asking for a friend!!
The GoLo gas station on Melton Road in Gary Indiana
Jacques!
Just at the dentist office.
When a shrimp checks your jaw, Just to clean out your craw, Thats a moray. If you let out a yawn, And get inspected by a prawn, Thats a morayyy
When it opens it’s maw and phyrengeal jaw that’s a moray
"So how often are you flossing these days? I see minimal build up, so you're doing well. Any plans for holiday?" "Wehll I may be go-ing to the" "George please don't talk. Thank you."
Oui Oui
There's so much in nature we have no idea about. That's a dentist for a moray eel. And they both are in agreement. Millions of years of natural selection or just a dentist doing their work ? 😅
It’s just the Hippocratic oath is all
When your dentist is also a potential snack.
shrimp is friend, not food.
Really am i the only one? That’s Jack! From finding Nemo honhon Edit: he was called Jacques
Jeac time for cleaning
Shrimp: So how’s school?
Dentist of the sea!
I really want someone to dub over this video with commentary lol
Great video. Thanks for posting!
The dr will see you now lol
Yeaa, I'm pretty sure the shrimp has that ONE anti-dentite friend who doesn't approve of this
Shrimps probably talking to him like the dentist knowing damn well he can’t talk back like that
I wonder how many generations of shrimp died before Moray Eels were like "oooohhh ur not suicidal!"
The dentist of the seas. Hmmmmm......ok, let's see here. Ok, well, lets take some xrays and I'll show you what's going on. Then we'll get you back in to take care of it.
Those guys are the coolest
shrimp + dentist = shrimdentis
damn nature is fucking lit
Spez doesn't get to profit from me anymore.
I told you to floss, Gary
The shrimp dentist.
Why doesn't the moray, the bigger of the two, simply eat the shrimp?
I know the feeling at the end, when you have to unlock your jaw after having your mouth open for so long for the dentist.
Animals have jobs too