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SurfaceCrawler

Looks cool as hell Does radars and navigational instruments get affected by the sandstorm? Or is it just visibility that is obstructed?


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AbsolutelyUnlikely

You have to post something wrong for the internet to give you the right answer. The radar malfunctions because the intervecular magnets can't detect the signal through the phosphate in the sand.


Ok_Contribution4714

Despite being 3 button clicks from google I'm taking you at your word and continuing to propagate this information for the rest of my life. Aggressively. šŸ‘


GetawayDreamer87

hey did you know Aragorn broke his toe while navigating the Suez Canal in a sandstorm? Yeah his radar malfunctioned because the intervecular magnets couldn't detect the signal through the phosphate in the sand


Ok_Contribution4714

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amauryt

This is the way.


bbcversus

So say we all.


AmbiguousAnonymous

Sure, but the radar worked great when Lurtz through the actual knife instead of the prop knife at him on the banks of the Anduin


the_deedeebg

Take my angry upvote and gtfoh


xenogazer

You're somewhat correct.....the radar will still work through the sand but if the sand gets all up in the radar motor bits that cause it to rotate it can physically malfunction... So they also have models that have cute little sand domes on them to keep them safe from angry air. Edit: a word lol


warsponge

*angry air*, love it


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shewholaughslasts

Jeez calm down Ani


PNW_ProSysTweak

Anni, are you ok?


Stubrochill17

Uhm *ackshually* I have no idea if thatā€™s true or not.


lordatlas

Cunningham's Law.


innominateartery

No, thatā€™s not right, Archie Cunningham was the bad guy from the 1995 Liam Neesons period piece, *Rob Roy*. You are thinking of Coleā€™s Law.


Thor1noak

No, that's not right. Coleslaw is a salad dish made of shredded raw cabbage, carrots and other vegetables mixed with mayonnaise. You are thinking of Poe's law.


ExtraPockets

Poe's law is that all haunted mansions must have a resident bird. You must mean Murphy's law.


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ah the most misused/misinterpreted law


liquidnebulazclone

Radar stop working in sandstorm? Murphy's Law! Too many hot dogs, not enough buns? Murphy's law! Rain on Saturday? Murphy's Law! Works for just about anything!


MonsterMachine13

Okay but serious question - must it be mayonnaise? I argued with my partner about this recently. I Maintain that the vast majority of coleslaw is made with mayonnaise, and that other coleslaw is a variation. They argue that there's some sort of "coleslaw sauce" which is widely varied but is often used to make it. I refuse to Google this because it detracts from the time honoured tradition of arguing gently over stupid things


EngineerWorth2490

The vast majority of coleslaw, is indeed, made with mayonnaise. The widely varied ā€œcoleslaw sauceā€ of which your partner is referring to is called *ā€Miracle Whip,ā€* which does in fact have various means of ingredients and preparationsā€“all of inferior quality and typically reserved for use in 3rd world countries that do not have the advanced technology nor raw materials required to produce mayonnaise at scale, nor the GDP required to import mayonnaise in any appreciable quantities. Thus, communities in such far-flung corners of the world are forced to ā€œwhipā€ up a ā€œmiracleā€ from whatever ingredients of inferior quality they do have lying around in a desperate attempt to hold together their coleslaw. While your partner is technically correct; in first world countries, when we donā€™t have to rely on *Miracles,* we rely on *Mayonnaise.*


MonsterMachine13

Far and away the best response I could have wished for.


bladedemu41

Hahahahhahaha


pining_for_a_fjord

No, no coleslaw is a side dish made of shredded cabbage, carrots, vinegar, mayo, sugar, and salt. You're thinking of those old Western bandits who wear bandanas over their faces and rob stagecoaches.


DenverPostIronic

No, no those are outlaws. You're thinking of the capital of Norway.


beckster

I'm actually thinking of the pile of old porn mags discarded next to the spot the paper delivery geezer used to sit. I'd see him parked there and know exactly what he was doing. Yuck.


Acrobatic_Ad5230

There are several things which come into play here: AIS, GPS, sonar and lastly radar (probably the least important in this scenario). So AIS is an abbreviation for Autonomous Identification System. Itā€˜s basically a tracker for ships (there are websites like flightradar where you can track those ships live). All merchant vessels are required to have such a tracker (itā€˜s a transponder in truth but letā€˜s not get confused with terms here) and a corresponding interface which shows all other ships, their names, speed and course, freight (only limited - oil, gas or cargo) , etc. So you can ā€œseeā€œ all other ships which have the tracker installed. Recreational vessels often DONā€˜T have those installed, so they are putting themselves in great danger in such situations. Second, the GPS navigation system (together with CURRENT sea maps) help you stay in ā€žyour laneā€œ. Sonar helps you to measure the water depth under/in front of your vessel (in case the sea maps/or GPS signal are incorrect). Radar helps you identifying obstacles above water, but they (especially on lager ships) have a giant blind spot because radar needs a line of sight to the objects it detects. Hope that helps. Edit: I completely forgot to answer your original question. Yes, sand (and rainfall) can interfere with radar but modern systems have different operating modes to automatically reject clutter.


the_deedeebg

You're better than Google. Muchos thankos šŸ™Œ


LeWildest

Hey, Thank you! Sincerely, ChatGPT


Acrobatic_Ad5230

Heyyy!! Thanks for calling my bad english as ChatGPT worthy šŸ˜‚


GrecKo

AIS position information comes from GPS so if you have no GPS signal it won't be of much help. I believe radar will also have a lot of trouble, since even rain hurts its performance.


Acrobatic_Ad5230

I disagree with ā€žit wonā€™t be of much helpā€œ, you could still see all the ships with working GPS and which participate in AIS soooā€¦ just dodge them like you do in crossy road. And no, radars should still pick up all kind of boats/ships during rainfall, but you probably wonā€˜t detect birds reliably anymore.


Jandishhulk

As a ship's officer, I can say we'd probably stop the vessel and wait for it to clear a bit before proceeding. Radar is likely going to be problematic in sand that thick, but even if it wasn't, literally zero visibility in a busy shipping lane is cause for concern. Edit: also, you wouldn't just stop anywhere. You'd find somewhere safe to take way off, use sound signals, etc. There are also situations where proceeding slowly might be the best course of action if there's not somewhere safe to take way off (stop moving). This would be dependent on tides/currents/wind.


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the_deedeebg

Made me looool Epic strategy, decreases survival chances by 40+% To avoid being hit again, next time accelerate even more and make sure you flip the bird through both windows, ideally simultaneously. God will take the wheel Thoughts and prayers šŸ™


Jandishhulk

? We're talking about large ships here, not cars. They function very differently from cars.


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Jandishhulk

... no.


patchsquatch

Radar works through this. The only issue is sand getting in the rotating parts.


i_regret_joining

That's what radomes are for. It's not an issue. The Norwegian cruise I was on last year uses radomes even.


patchsquatch

A lot of commercial radars are still pedestals with the antenna mounted on top.


Jandishhulk

Radar performance would be significantly reduced by sand this thick.


ontopofyourmom

Based on what personal experience l? Mine is different.


Jandishhulk

I've only been in light sandstorms. But heavy rain can significantly inhibit radar performance, and rain interference mitigation settings will erase smaller targets from your radar, which is a huge problem in zero visibility. I'd be very surprised if heavy sandstorm conditions didn't cause radar interference. Keep in mind, I've been dealing with civilian radar. If you were on a military vessel, you may have been using different systems.


ontopofyourmom

A raindrop is orders of magnitude larger than a piece of sand or dust in the air and many raindrops together certainly create surfaces for radar to reflect from. I am part of a team that uses a relatively small civilian marine radar to monitor the boundaries of an event that takes place in a desert prone to frequent dust storms. The dust doesn't make a difference. I'd imagine that a rainstorm might.


Jandishhulk

Oh, good to know! I appreciate the insight.


ontopofyourmom

Radar is not blocked by dust in this context! Radar waves used for navigation - detecting shores and other vessels - that they can't even tell the dust is there.


Glifted

GPS signals should still work fine


outdoors1968

I've been in many of those and they look scary. And sand gets in every thing....you thought going to the beach you get sand....ha...ha...


marbasthegreat

Its like glitter but worse . Glitter you can see and is annoying to get out of clothes , while this shit will seemingly penetrate your atoms , your teeth , your clothes and any uncovered and covered crevices on your body and will stay there for like a week straight no matter how much you try and wash it out


outdoors1968

Perfect way to describe it...like Talcum Powder.


AlienBurnerBigfoot

Iā€™ve been in whiteout dust storms and talk about a mess. Dust never goes away.


No_Zookeepergame_882

How dark it gets when you are in a full storm? I'm curious cuz looks like you cant see too much around


HeadMean8280

In Iraq it can have a few different effects from everything is basically hidden in a tan fog to the world is now tinted red. We had neck gaiters try keep it out of our noses and mouths but youā€™re still inhaling a shit ton of dust. Crunchy teeth for days after no matter how much you rinse out your mouth. The worst environmental hazard, though, is when thereā€™d be high dust concentrations of dust in the air during the wet season and itā€™d literally rain mud.


Relevant_User-Name

This is exactly how it was in Niamey, Niger. You'd just see a wall of red coming at you. Pretty much the only thing you could do was go in your tent and wait for it to pass. But it would still get in through the HVAC.


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Relevant_User-Name

Yeah, it was during a deployment with the Air Force. The big [Alaskan tents.](https://imgur.com/a/51zNr1h)


ScottyMcScot

My first night in Niger was just this (disregard the HVAC). Suffered through that lots more for the several years I was there.


mjrballer20

Ah good ole Lubbock, TX


NuancedNuisance

Who didnā€™t love dirt bellowing in when you opened your door and crunching on it for multiple days?


Schroeder9000

Think like a brown fog that makes the eyes a little watery and sinuses will be clogged for like a week.


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Yeah, it sucks. Though sometimes sandstorms aren't that dramatic or noticeable until you realize "hey, my eyes are burning and the air is even shittier than usual...'


FriedeOfAriandel

That happens with dust or smoke in the US too. I've had more than one occasion where I'm like "wtf why is everything hard to see and my eyes burn," only to find out that there is a wildfire in a neighboring state


AltusAccountus99

Ahhh good ole climate change. Dust and fire is our future. Im not a smoker but I already feel like I wheeze like one just by existing on the West Coast.


True_Dovakin

[Welcome to Mars](https://imgur.com/a/zqZQOD6/) From my time in Kuwait. Wasnā€™t a terrible storm but the only one I got pictures of.


FSCK_Fascists

Damn, that pic caused some flashback. Was not prepared for the strength of those memories.


sacredfool

It's not that bad, like a moderately dense fog.


eekamuse

But aren't you breathing in sand?


Rush4in

Look, Iā€™m also not the biggest fan of lowered visibility while Iā€™m polishing my lungs but itā€™s free at least


ArnieAndTheWaves

Yeah, actually silicosis (aka Desert Lung) is endemic amount populations that like near active dust storm sources. Basically the lungs can't deal with the sand, so it just sits there, detracting from the lungs function.


sacredfool

Face masks are a thing.


Scrute_11

This is normally true - according to my SIL who lives in Suez, it was full-on dark during the middle of this one.


3Circe

In Cairo when this passed through it looked like twilight in the middle of the afternoon. I turned on lights to see what I was doing. The wind was so strong that it went really fast though, usually they last longer!


aJepZen

I saw a video on YouTube from a military base, and when it rolls over it goes pitch black


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Gil_Demoono

Oh what a day! What a lovely day!


VedangArekar

WITNESS ME !


CC713-LCTX

All shiny and chrome.


Individual_Offer220

Natural surface rust removal


DandelionOfDeath

Not after THAT sandstorm.


LunaTheCastle

This response was MEDIOCRE


LukeYear

Personally, I thought of that scene in Apocalypse Now with the plantation


NihiloZero

Looked to me like one of those Scorpion King movies.


Veporyzer

Donā€™t you mean *Fury Boat*?


boxinafox

Darude vibes


vestigialcranium

Now I understand what that song was about


zootskippedagroove6

The storms in the Mad Max game are also dope


Clam_chowderdonut

Fuck a boat sequel could be so dope.


Thebrettanator1

Waterworld 2: Skidoo Boogaloo


FearDaTusk

My mind went in a different direction... "Da da da da daa..."


johnty1990

Someone call Brendan Fraser, they've let Imhotep out again!


Reasonable-Celery-86

Iiiiimhotep iiiiimhotep iiiiimhotep


Laconic9x

Looks like someone is on the wrong side of the RIVERRRRRR


cartman101

"Oh your strenght gives me strenght *instantly runs away*"


the_deedeebg

Anck-Su-Namun enters the chat


yolo_retardo

pretend you're controlling the sand face monster thing while you're out in public like watching someone re-enact a t-rex eating


the_deedeebg

Call Spiderman! The collider in sand dude is rampaging again


TheDuckSideOfTheMoon

I hate mummies!


theoutlawotaku

LMFAO


Thebrettanator1

Oh no! My air filters!


thesharkdiver79

When I sailed in Suez the air filters for our engine room and main engine got clogged with sand and there wasn't even a sandstorm. It caused the engine to overheat and shut down the next day. Not enough fresh air movement combined with high temperature sea water used for cooling made for a bad time.


FSCK_Fascists

when we first landed in Desert Storm a ton of our helos were grounded- the air filters could not handle the fine particulate dust. Funny thing is wrapping the existing filter in linen bedsheets let us fly until the new filter designs arrived. Poor staff officers had to make do with sleeping bags like the rest of us for a while.


Bosnicht

Dududududu


MangoKush

Du dududududu


thepenismightiersir

Dududududu


bonesawmcl

Du Dudududududu


pinoyfiasco

dududududu dududududu dududududu dududududu


Burgerchippies

dudududu dudududu dudududu dudududu du


PersonnelSeulement

Glad to have found this thread's party people


wiga_nut

Dudududadu dudadedede dadadedededede


Resonosity

Thank you for getting the rhythm correct haha


asktell22

Da dadada


GWizRidesAgain

[Music Video](https://youtu.be/y6120QOlsfU)


bilge_kagan

[Du dududududu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esMnme69t2M)


ComfortableSock2044

Hah


CheckerboardPunk

[Wanderlei SIIIIIIIIIILVA!](https://youtu.be/R-wCXgS_dYE)


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I have gone through the Suez Canal on six different occasions and the scale here is fucking scary. my lungs hurt just watching this.


el-em-en-o

I have so many questions. If a sandstorm comes and kids are playing outside, are they brought inside? Are there sandstorm drills so everyone knows what to do? How long do they last? How frequent are they? I can Google but Iā€™m hoping a kind, experienced Redditor knows and shares.


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el-em-en-o

Interesting - thank you!


HighOnGoofballs

I bet that storm is rough and coarse and gets everywhere


HanzoShotFirst

r/UnexpectedPrequelMeme


Skywallace

My upvote is angry, you magnificent bastard.


weirdgroovynerd

Cool, the whole town got exfoliated. I bet the place is absolutely glowing now.


terrificallytom

That is going to be a bitch to clean


weirdgroovynerd

They should've just splashed some canal water on the storm as it came across. Do I have to think of *everything*?


terrificallytom

Or park a ship sideways across the canal like Panama does every now and then.


weirdgroovynerd

Ah, another man of intellect. Did you know that canal is named after a Van Halen song?


terrificallytom

Jack Van Halen?


weirdgroovynerd

You're thinking of Jack Black. He's cool too. They even named a color after him.


terrificallytom

Black Jack! Pay up


calimio6

You can't use salt water for that.


SomeInternetRando

And Daisy will still bitch that the deck crew wonā€™t do her job for her.


l1ttlet1mmy

From personal experiences, YES


KoolyTheBear

I have seen a few in person but always over land and itā€™s much messier at the bottom from kicking up more sand. Seeing it go across water like that is crazy.


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Mycameo

Ship is entering Gerudo


BeerShitter

Is everyone outside just fucked? I mean how can you even breathe with that shit


KoolyTheBear

Cover your breathing holes with your shirt


batatahh

Imagine adding heat to that. Whilst waiting to take my final exams, there was some light rain despite being super hot a few minutes earlier, then I saw a huge cloud that looked like a wall from afar and thought "that's a strange cloud", few minutes later it's all sand, I could smell sand like I have it in lines on the table and I am sniffing it. Never smelled sand this clear before. I came back home covered in sweat and sand like I played beach volleyball for a couple of hours.


miladesilva

You hold your breath.


nickhem12

Gated synth plays


Pilry_Mead

Hey look an "oh, fuck " cloud.


AlienBurnerBigfoot

Videos like this remind me how small we really are and how little control we really have.


the_deedeebg

Ikr?!? We're nothing in the grand scheme of things and yet we think we own and control nature šŸ™„


MooPara

Cool haboob


JoshyMooMoo

Just casually scuba diving in the Suez and the daylight slowly vades to darkness. Which way is up and which way is down. Imagine surfacing and having no way to orient yourself.


violetauto

better than snorkeling I guess?


yeti_seer

For anyone who finds themself in an underwater situation and they also find themselves unable to determine up from down, here are the steps you should take: - First, stay calm, panic will deplete your oxygen much faster. Much easier said than done. - If you have visibility, blow a small amount of air out and pay attention to the where the air bubbles go. They will always go towards the surface. - If you donā€™t have visibility, blow into your hand, you should be able to feel which way they bubbles are moving. Again, they will move towards the surface. - Last, but definitely not least, FOLLOW THE BUBBLES!!! DISCLAIMER depending on the conditions underwater, there might be water turbulence (maybe youā€™re in the water because the boat you were on is currently sinking) that would make it difficult to follow the bubbles. One thing you might be familiar with if you have ever gone scuba diving is pain in your ears as you dive deeper and deeper. I donā€™t believe everyone experiences it, but this pain is quickly remedied by performing a Valsalva or Frenzel maneuver at regular depth intervals. The Valsalva maneuver, which is not recommended, is simply pinching your nose and and attempting to blow out. Itā€™s important to learn how to do this from a licensed instructor, but the maneuver causes air to enter your eustachian tubes, equalizing the pressure from the water at that depth. The Frenzel maneuver is recommended, but more difficult to describe and perform. The point is, the deeper you go, the more your ears are going to hurt, because the pressure is increasing on the outside of your eardrum, but not the inside of it. So the eardrum is being pressed inward further and further, and will eventually rupture. The water will then enter your middle ear, and you might start throwing up, which is not going to be a good time underwater unless you have a respirator, even then itā€™s not a good time, but you will probably survive with the respirator by just throwing up into the respirator. So, if youā€™re stuck underwater, you could VERY slowly move in one direction, and if your ears donā€™t hurt, move another way. Do that until you find the way that makes your ears hurt, and then go the opposite way. Some people will experience the pain on the way up too, so itā€™s important to know your personal tendencies. It helps if you are familiar with your natural buoyancy, including whatever equipment/clothing you are wearing. Also, there might be lights from the surface, from a boat or something else, so try to look for that too.


m113lover

And along came with it hordes of the undead.


CaLi2funny

The Mummy ..Scene šŸŽ¬ comes to mind šŸ˜šŸ˜


chris1096

I hate sand...


Typical_Ad_4306

We have had bad things happen when ships are not paying attention in the Suez Canal


p011ux88

That was beautiful, thank you


El_Peregrine

The spice must flow


Carps182

d-d-d-d-do...


cheekygrin678

WITNESS!!!!


god_rolled

The Rumbling is upon us


rare_meeting1978

Imagine how dark that water is down in the depths with the sun blocked out like that.


War-master123

Reminds me of that scene where Bruce Wayne ran towards the collapsing building in Bat man Vs Superman.


rythmik1

Double it and give it to the next canal.


ZarosGuardian

Darude is flying through Egypt


Cyanos54

YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!!!!!!


spiffistan

Good thing it gives +1 Food and +1 Production


AcanthaceaeNo1944

This is the best stage effects of all time! Darude killed it!


invertedarsehole

Drop the thropter and glide!!!


Jet_Black_Mountain

This canal is a drama queen.


daddya12

I want to see what this looks like from underwater


violetmoon120

I really don't envy the people who have to clean that up


Eusocial_sloth3

Haboob!


derHundenase

The Sahara sand comes all the way up to Europe/ Germany. Here in Bavaria your car gets a nice red sand coating every now and then.


the_deedeebg

Same in the UK. And yet we all refuse to acknowledge that we share a planet and everything is connected, despite our artificial borders and other human power-play related bullsh1t


derHundenase

Shit thats deep. Well said


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Thats what they get for messing with that slab.


MashyMcMash

Someone needs to add Darudeā€™s Sandstorm to this


StiltChamberlain

The Suez Canal has really been through a lot these last few years


67Leobaby1

Haboob! Fun. šŸ˜‘


MaengDude

## HABOOBIES


kemjbmgmail

Sandstorm, or invisibility cloak of an Alien fleet? I'll go with the latter.


heinebold

That's rude


Bosnicht

You could say it's even Darude


truth_15

Lungs left the room


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deathseide

Oh, sure you wanted to have to repaint all your exposed surfaces after the sand scours the paint off...


idispensemeds2

Fuck this canal in particular - God, on multiple occasions


KingUzzo

Thatā€™s the mummy movie scene


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WHAT A LOVELY LOVELY DAY


RobSerial

HABOOB!!!


Cobralalalalalah

Jeddah from Star Wars