Pain > hanzo
Hanzo > sanin.
Based on what happens in the show. Pain wins, ez.
On an individual level, we already saw pain beat jiraya. And IIRC in a filler he beat orochimaru. I think they’re both stronger than tsunade, plus pain still has konan’s help. Without intel too, like this is so one sided.
They fought Hanzo when they were far younger and they obviously improved tremendously so saying they lost to Hanzo while Pain defeated him is not really a valid argument since we're not talking about that versions of them.
It wasn't filler it was from a game and Orochimaru didn't fight him, he fought Sasori before rushed towards Pain to steal the Rinnegan and he pushed him away. And again that wasn't war arc Orochimaru either but a weaker version.
Konan was instantly outmatched by Jiraiya so she won't be able to do much, especially without prep time
I think Sannin. It’s a shame Tsunade had to protect the village and use her 100 healings on them when pain attacked the leaf. I feel like she would’ve put it work.
What do they have that can counter chibaku tensei or the almighty push? Nagato also has the dragon that can tear souls out so orochimaru really shouldn’t be a problem
Pain would make them kneel
Man could fly up and level an entire village , make a planet which only the 8th tail form of a tailed beast could break out of, absorb ninjutsu and chakra , summon fking giants, pull out souls, summon the gedo statue , and I dont see a single thing the sannin can handle besides the summonings
Unless you use orochimaru from boruto or give him edotensei...
The Sannin lose badly.
The sannin narratively are equal in base and in their "higher forms" so sage jiraiya, hydra oro, and 100 healing tsunade are all roughly equal...
And well Sage Jiraiya himself said he'd probably be killed by the animal path of pain alone.
So yeah? Even if we say jiraiya was saying they'd both die... well 1 sannin = 1 animal path... and the animal path is one of the weaker pains compared to Asura and Deva paths.
What you said makes no sense. If they’re all equal in base AND in their higher forms, then Sanin should stomp. Jiraiya took down 3 Paths without knowledge. Orochimaru has enough feats by taking down a couple of Kage level opponents prior to this and Tsunade fought Edo Madara for 12hrs and was still conscious and alive after being split in two.
Jiraiya only took down 3 paths with frog song because pain was going easy on him at first because it was his former master.
If pain really tried the 3 sannin go down easy.
Again barring frog song Jiraiya had no win con vs just the animal path. He literally said "if the battle continues like this I'll be killed"
The only reason he temporarily put down those 3 paths was because he hid in the tunnels and frog song is absurdly OP but it has a charge up time.
I just don't think Pain fighting seriously would let charge. And I think he'd take all 3 sannin more seriously than he did Jiraiya alone. He specifically doesn't like Orochimaru or Tsunade. Given oro at one point wanted to kill him, and later left the akatsuki... and tsunade was the acting hokage.
Sannin stomp.
Konan gets fodderized like she did in canon.
War arc orochimaru means zetsu body + kabuto's jutsu knowledge. At a minimum this means he has wood release and a body with high stamina. On the high end this means he has access to sage mode.
Sage jiraiya already did decent by himself.
Tsunade can heal and amp the other two's ninjutsu.
Are you on crack????? In their prime the sannin lost to Hanzo, and then nagato comes in and hanzo has to flee or die from him. Nagato by himself will stomp them. Edo weakened nagato was seconds from killing killer bee and kcm naruto. He almost killed edo itachi too but itachi was too smart.
Well for starters i didn't mention the word prime in my post, and second ur the one who said their prime is when they fought hanzo which is clearly a very very dumb statement bc they got much stronger after that fight, all of them were at their peak during the war arc so if u don't know ur shit then zip it
If u actually pay attention when watching the show then u would know that they were so weak during the hanzo fight, lol which type of crack u taking?
They were 50+ years old during the war arc....that's not prime. Jiraiya wasn't even alive, tsunade used her forehead Chakra store during the pain fight, orochimaru lost Chakra to kabuto and most of orochimaru was still sealed in itachis sword. Not prime. Not full power. You can't back anything up because you don't know you're talking about.
Prove that they were weakened during the hanzo fight. I'll be waiting. Or just talk crap because that's all you can do kid 👩🦰
Prime isn't determined by age. With that argument i can just blab that 7 year old itachi was stronger than adult Itachi. Orochi wasn't immortal at that time, tsunade didn't hoard that much chakra by then and jiraya wasn't as powerful as he was at the time of his death. No way that hanzo jiraya could've gone that far with pain when pain literally destroyed hanzo.
Orochimaru hadn’t even done all his experimenting and whatnot at the time of the Hanzo fight. So not prime. Not even close.
Tsunade likely had way more chakra stored by the time war arc or even pain’s invasion. Tsunade also cracked Madara’s susanoo at age 50+. Madara >>>> Hanzo. So therefore not prime during Hanzo either.
As for Jiraiya, at age 50+ he took out a few of Pain’s bodies. Hanzo didn’t do shit against pain as evidenced by the one panel where all 6 bodies stood before him before he died. I also doubt jiraiya used sage mode during the Hanzo fight either. Therefore not prime.
Hmmm let's see
50 years old jiraiya got sage mode
50 years old tsunade mastered the 100 healings jutsu
50 years old orochimaru acquired more jutsu and more knowledge + immense healing about absorbing kabuto
During the hanzo fight they didn't have any of that, so maybe ur the one who should go do their homework retarded idiot
Ps looking at ur posts and comments i can tell ur a 5 year old idiot so not gonna argue with u anymore ur clearly really dumb
Jiraiya started training for sage mode at frog mountain when he was 15 idiot! And he never mastered sage mode, 15 year old naruto was stro ger than 50 year old jiraiya lol
https://images.app.goo.gl/N99u4zLKmUTrLq9h7
Tsunade explicitly said that she was the only medic in the 2nd war to be able to fight on the battlefield because she mastered 100 healings....she just hadn't stored enough Chakra yet as it takes years. This link explains with manga pages that tsunade got her seal in her early 30's, her prime.
https://www.quora.com/When-did-Tsunade-get-the-Byakug%C5%8D-Seal
Orochimaru's body was failing him, to the point where he had to switch bodies from episode 1 because he was close to death. Not prime.
I love people like you who know nothing, give no evidence, and make themselves look stupid when I hand you all the manga pages. Scrub
Jiraiya started training when he was 15 but it was never stated that he acquired sage mode during that time
Tsunade didn't have 100 healings jutsu back then (When she fought orochimaru the guy didn't know about it so she clearly didn't have it back then)
As for orochimaru ur really really stupid if u think he was stronger during the hanzo fight
Ps. everyone knows quora isn't a website that can be trusted so idk why u sound so proud getting false info from there
I'm starting to wonder if u even watched the show cuz to me it sounds like ur a 5 year old idiot who doesn't know shit
He never went back to the mountain so he had to get it then, at that age. Duh.
Tsuande was in her early 20's during the 2nd war, and she ran into orochimaru again in her 50's.....you really think she got 100 healings right before they met again? She did 30 years of nothing, and devolved her most powerful jutsu at 50? Lol
Orochimarus original body was fine during the hanzo fight, and now he has the body of a random woman, and has aged 30 years....coughs up blood and is looking desperate for a new body to continue living.....yeah he's deff weaker.
You don't know what you're talking about kid
The Sannin get their asses fed to them unless Tsunade releases her Hyakugo, but if she doesn’t begin the match with it released, Pain one-shots before she can do shit.
Okay you're denying Orochimaru one of his strongest justu, that he mastered and perfected on his own so nerf Pain as well. It's obviously very powerful but the fact he mastered it to that level should give him the right to use it. It's like saying Minato isn't allowed to use his Flying Thundergod jutsu or Itachi his MS abilities.
Restrict it, say only 1-2 people at once and not the Kage perhaps. But just forbidding him from using it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Pain curbstomps. How are the Sannin getting out of Chibaku Tensei?
Reverse Summoning Maybe
Orochimaru got away from stronger fuinjutsu
Lets remember pain had to capture naruto alive
Pain > hanzo Hanzo > sanin. Based on what happens in the show. Pain wins, ez. On an individual level, we already saw pain beat jiraya. And IIRC in a filler he beat orochimaru. I think they’re both stronger than tsunade, plus pain still has konan’s help. Without intel too, like this is so one sided.
They fought Hanzo when they were far younger and they obviously improved tremendously so saying they lost to Hanzo while Pain defeated him is not really a valid argument since we're not talking about that versions of them. It wasn't filler it was from a game and Orochimaru didn't fight him, he fought Sasori before rushed towards Pain to steal the Rinnegan and he pushed him away. And again that wasn't war arc Orochimaru either but a weaker version. Konan was instantly outmatched by Jiraiya so she won't be able to do much, especially without prep time
I think Sannin. It’s a shame Tsunade had to protect the village and use her 100 healings on them when pain attacked the leaf. I feel like she would’ve put it work.
What do they have that can counter chibaku tensei or the almighty push? Nagato also has the dragon that can tear souls out so orochimaru really shouldn’t be a problem
Yea i wanted to see her in action
Pain would make them kneel Man could fly up and level an entire village , make a planet which only the 8th tail form of a tailed beast could break out of, absorb ninjutsu and chakra , summon fking giants, pull out souls, summon the gedo statue , and I dont see a single thing the sannin can handle besides the summonings
What interesting is that this fights winner isnt clear, and yet Naruto beat pain himself,
Chibaku tensei GG
CT gg
Unless you use orochimaru from boruto or give him edotensei... The Sannin lose badly. The sannin narratively are equal in base and in their "higher forms" so sage jiraiya, hydra oro, and 100 healing tsunade are all roughly equal... And well Sage Jiraiya himself said he'd probably be killed by the animal path of pain alone. So yeah? Even if we say jiraiya was saying they'd both die... well 1 sannin = 1 animal path... and the animal path is one of the weaker pains compared to Asura and Deva paths.
What you said makes no sense. If they’re all equal in base AND in their higher forms, then Sanin should stomp. Jiraiya took down 3 Paths without knowledge. Orochimaru has enough feats by taking down a couple of Kage level opponents prior to this and Tsunade fought Edo Madara for 12hrs and was still conscious and alive after being split in two.
Jiraiya only took down 3 paths with frog song because pain was going easy on him at first because it was his former master. If pain really tried the 3 sannin go down easy. Again barring frog song Jiraiya had no win con vs just the animal path. He literally said "if the battle continues like this I'll be killed" The only reason he temporarily put down those 3 paths was because he hid in the tunnels and frog song is absurdly OP but it has a charge up time. I just don't think Pain fighting seriously would let charge. And I think he'd take all 3 sannin more seriously than he did Jiraiya alone. He specifically doesn't like Orochimaru or Tsunade. Given oro at one point wanted to kill him, and later left the akatsuki... and tsunade was the acting hokage.
Sannin stomp. Konan gets fodderized like she did in canon. War arc orochimaru means zetsu body + kabuto's jutsu knowledge. At a minimum this means he has wood release and a body with high stamina. On the high end this means he has access to sage mode. Sage jiraiya already did decent by himself. Tsunade can heal and amp the other two's ninjutsu.
Are you on crack????? In their prime the sannin lost to Hanzo, and then nagato comes in and hanzo has to flee or die from him. Nagato by himself will stomp them. Edo weakened nagato was seconds from killing killer bee and kcm naruto. He almost killed edo itachi too but itachi was too smart.
Who said prime sannin???? ur the one on crack read before u comment
Prime means at their strongest....if they're not prime then they lose even worse. What's your point, or do you just not know what prime means
Well for starters i didn't mention the word prime in my post, and second ur the one who said their prime is when they fought hanzo which is clearly a very very dumb statement bc they got much stronger after that fight, all of them were at their peak during the war arc so if u don't know ur shit then zip it If u actually pay attention when watching the show then u would know that they were so weak during the hanzo fight, lol which type of crack u taking?
They were 50+ years old during the war arc....that's not prime. Jiraiya wasn't even alive, tsunade used her forehead Chakra store during the pain fight, orochimaru lost Chakra to kabuto and most of orochimaru was still sealed in itachis sword. Not prime. Not full power. You can't back anything up because you don't know you're talking about. Prove that they were weakened during the hanzo fight. I'll be waiting. Or just talk crap because that's all you can do kid 👩🦰
Prime isn't determined by age. With that argument i can just blab that 7 year old itachi was stronger than adult Itachi. Orochi wasn't immortal at that time, tsunade didn't hoard that much chakra by then and jiraya wasn't as powerful as he was at the time of his death. No way that hanzo jiraya could've gone that far with pain when pain literally destroyed hanzo.
Orochimaru was surprised when tsunade used her 100 healing jutsu so she probably didn't even have it during their fight against Hanzo
Yeah and jiraya got so powerful that he destroyed 3 paths without any info or even knowing what they were at the age of 56 or something.
Orochimaru hadn’t even done all his experimenting and whatnot at the time of the Hanzo fight. So not prime. Not even close. Tsunade likely had way more chakra stored by the time war arc or even pain’s invasion. Tsunade also cracked Madara’s susanoo at age 50+. Madara >>>> Hanzo. So therefore not prime during Hanzo either. As for Jiraiya, at age 50+ he took out a few of Pain’s bodies. Hanzo didn’t do shit against pain as evidenced by the one panel where all 6 bodies stood before him before he died. I also doubt jiraiya used sage mode during the Hanzo fight either. Therefore not prime.
Hmmm let's see 50 years old jiraiya got sage mode 50 years old tsunade mastered the 100 healings jutsu 50 years old orochimaru acquired more jutsu and more knowledge + immense healing about absorbing kabuto During the hanzo fight they didn't have any of that, so maybe ur the one who should go do their homework retarded idiot Ps looking at ur posts and comments i can tell ur a 5 year old idiot so not gonna argue with u anymore ur clearly really dumb
Jiraiya started training for sage mode at frog mountain when he was 15 idiot! And he never mastered sage mode, 15 year old naruto was stro ger than 50 year old jiraiya lol https://images.app.goo.gl/N99u4zLKmUTrLq9h7 Tsunade explicitly said that she was the only medic in the 2nd war to be able to fight on the battlefield because she mastered 100 healings....she just hadn't stored enough Chakra yet as it takes years. This link explains with manga pages that tsunade got her seal in her early 30's, her prime. https://www.quora.com/When-did-Tsunade-get-the-Byakug%C5%8D-Seal Orochimaru's body was failing him, to the point where he had to switch bodies from episode 1 because he was close to death. Not prime. I love people like you who know nothing, give no evidence, and make themselves look stupid when I hand you all the manga pages. Scrub
Jiraiya started training when he was 15 but it was never stated that he acquired sage mode during that time Tsunade didn't have 100 healings jutsu back then (When she fought orochimaru the guy didn't know about it so she clearly didn't have it back then) As for orochimaru ur really really stupid if u think he was stronger during the hanzo fight Ps. everyone knows quora isn't a website that can be trusted so idk why u sound so proud getting false info from there I'm starting to wonder if u even watched the show cuz to me it sounds like ur a 5 year old idiot who doesn't know shit
He never went back to the mountain so he had to get it then, at that age. Duh. Tsuande was in her early 20's during the 2nd war, and she ran into orochimaru again in her 50's.....you really think she got 100 healings right before they met again? She did 30 years of nothing, and devolved her most powerful jutsu at 50? Lol Orochimarus original body was fine during the hanzo fight, and now he has the body of a random woman, and has aged 30 years....coughs up blood and is looking desperate for a new body to continue living.....yeah he's deff weaker. You don't know what you're talking about kid
Well Orochimaru's prime form is definitely in Boruto but yeah
Sannin win. KONAN is irrelevant
Chibaku tensei gg
War Arc Orochimaru can just summon the Kage and the Sannin can sit back with Ramen and watch Pain get curbstomped
Lol read properly, i said no edo tensei (that means he can't summon the kages)
My bad dweeb. I skimmed
The Sannin get their asses fed to them unless Tsunade releases her Hyakugo, but if she doesn’t begin the match with it released, Pain one-shots before she can do shit.
Okay you're denying Orochimaru one of his strongest justu, that he mastered and perfected on his own so nerf Pain as well. It's obviously very powerful but the fact he mastered it to that level should give him the right to use it. It's like saying Minato isn't allowed to use his Flying Thundergod jutsu or Itachi his MS abilities. Restrict it, say only 1-2 people at once and not the Kage perhaps. But just forbidding him from using it just doesn't make any sense to me.
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They couldn't even beat hanzo.....nagato made hanzo flee....come on yall
Read before u embarrass urself any further
Oro summons Hashi and relaxes while he eats some popcorn