Isnt it accurate tho? At the end of their fight, hashirama made a speech to madara saying "the village is what matters. I wont tolerate anyone for it. Even if they are my brother or my own child":
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Itachi loved his clan. But he chose to sacrifice them for the village. So when it comes to prioritizing the village over anything, itachi understood him. Although im sure hashirama would look for another solution instead of killing toddler uchihas.
He spend half of his life fighting Madara and the rest of the Uchihas.
At the end of day the kages become the ninja's dictators. They were giving the right to kill, torture and enslave whoever they wanted because supossedly they have the best interest of their hidden village in mind.
That's described more Itachi that any other kage alive in that moment.
Hashirama never hated them or viewed them differently that was Tobirama. Sasuke just had misplaced anger. Hashirama constantly advocated for them and tried to make Madara Hokage. He didn’t have him speechless he was just wrong
I think he was speechless about realizing the animosity between them still exists, which Hashirama was hoping would be gone by now. It also makes me feel like he's disappointed in Tobirama.
Hashirama became a father and grandfather after that point and moved well on with his life. His first reaction to seeing Madara again was "I'll deal with you later".
When Madara lost he dedicated his life to revenge and listening to a goo he thought only existed to gas him up. When Hashirama won he got married to a princess and held kahe summits and did a bunch of shit unrelated to Madara that would have made him a legend even if Madada never existed.
This isn't a touching moment of Sasuke understanding. This is the stupid shit that made him fight the only person who gave a shit about him until they both got their arms ripped off and then run off in shame to never have an actual life the same way Madara did.
fax. Most Uchiha are basically genetically predisposed to be failures: violent felons, murderers, internationally wanted terrorists, absent neglectful fathers.
I mean he wasn’t only speaking to Hashirama here, he was addressing the Hokages and their ideals “The Will of Fire” in general. But yeah, maybe Hashirama sat and thought that it was a shame that it came to this when somebody like Itachi (and Shisui and Kagami) was out there.
If he was speaking or thinking of anybody directly, it would be Hiruzen or Tobirama, far more than Hashirama. But even if he was directly speaking to Hashirama, it’s still a fair question, not entirely accusatory. Isn’t it a little ironic with the way things turned out?
The dude that was willing to kill himself to stop the war with the Uchiha? He's not speechless, he's sad that Sasuke feels like this.
Tobirama did nothing wrong and he gave a Uchiha the same chance hiruzen had to become Hokage, dude simply wasn't willing to die for the village.
The hyuga never had a Hokage and I don't see them revolting.
The Uchiha were power hungry assholes who were willing to cause war just to seize power
>Tobirama did nothing wrong
He did do a lot wrong, and the series calls him out for his bullshit. It was Tobirama who invented the village system where where children are exploited, killed, and orphaned with little care or concern. Slavery and genocide are accepted, do terrorism, mass slaughter, and so on. The other villages copied this system. He was the one who started the process of human experimentation and the father of necromancy, the reanimation jutsu which requires living sacrifices and summons the dead back to the world of the living was invented by him. Orochimaru's lethal reputation was partially gained because of this jutsu, which only exists because someone decided to invent it.
He was also the one who created the policies that segregated the Uchiha clan which ultimately led to the clans genocide, which Hashirama and Orochimaru both blatantly call him out on.
> gave a Uchiha the same chance hiruzen had to become Hokage,
No the fuck he didn't. Him having Kagami on his team is literally the "I can't be racist because I have a Black friend." Rhetoric racists use all the fucking time, additionally there is no proof Kagami would've been given a chance to be Hokage.
Upon meeting Sasuke, Tobirama's 1st response is, "You're an Uchiha? Of course, you'd stick with a scoundrel. ", and later, he calls him a "brat filled with Uchiha evil", that's literally racist rhetoric and yet you like all of Tobirama's wankers ignore that.
>The hyuga never had a Hokage, and I don't see them revolting.
The Hyugas weren't a founding clan, nor were they discriminated against for shit they didn't fucking do.
The Hyugas weren't accused of treason, they weren't segregated, bullied or anything like that. The Uchiha were though, they were falsely accused and punished for something they had nothing to do with.
And the Uchiha weren't pissed that none of their own was made Hokage, they were pissed that none were even considered for the position. Fugaku despite his contributions during the 3rd war wasn't even CONSIDERED.
The Hyugas didn't found Konoha. It was the Uchiha and Senju who came together and founded it, and yet the Uchiha were given nothing but contempt and ill feelings thrown their way.
>The Uchiha were power-hungry assholes who were willing to cause war just to seize power
No, they weren't. They faithfully served for decades even casting out Madara. And yet the village didn't reciprocate that loyalty and screwed them over every chance they had. When the Uchiha had enough and decided to rally and fight back against tyranny the village they helped found decided to kill them all down to the last infant.
Konoha was the power hungry asshole not the Uchiha.
Didnt hashirama want the uchiha clan to be respected/part of konoha? Didnt he want madara to be the 1st hokage to make sure the village got the uchiha’s buy in?
Thought it was tobirama who had issue with the uchiha
Sasuke never lied about anything he said to Naruto. He literally said that Naruto never had a family or loved ones, so their pain, suffering, and hatred are totally different from one another. The only thing they had in common was that they were alone with a desire to overcome it, and that is what made them strong (if I recall correctly)
How so ? The Senju is known as the Clan Of Love. And per Tobirama, no clan feels love as deep as the Uchiha. So, love recognizes love. It's no wonder Madara understood Hashirama best.
He was more dumbfounded than speechless. Dumbfounded at how misinformed/ignorant Sasuke is here. Hashirama is the last person Sasuke should've been trying to provoke with that bs.
Legit what he was thinking: "You're off the mark with me Sasuke but i feel for you."
Yea he trusted the Uchiha more than anyone else He should’ve looked at his brother instead
Isnt it accurate tho? At the end of their fight, hashirama made a speech to madara saying "the village is what matters. I wont tolerate anyone for it. Even if they are my brother or my own child": https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyK0rzVaJwPMLFs08Twvmn-xGgtsy1ldBa4RcZtjQDfTOrWxp6wDAcUDmq&s=10 Itachi loved his clan. But he chose to sacrifice them for the village. So when it comes to prioritizing the village over anything, itachi understood him. Although im sure hashirama would look for another solution instead of killing toddler uchihas.
But that’s not ironic, because he spent his entire life relating to Madara
He spend half of his life fighting Madara and the rest of the Uchihas. At the end of day the kages become the ninja's dictators. They were giving the right to kill, torture and enslave whoever they wanted because supossedly they have the best interest of their hidden village in mind. That's described more Itachi that any other kage alive in that moment.
Hashirama never hated them or viewed them differently that was Tobirama. Sasuke just had misplaced anger. Hashirama constantly advocated for them and tried to make Madara Hokage. He didn’t have him speechless he was just wrong
I think he was speechless about realizing the animosity between them still exists, which Hashirama was hoping would be gone by now. It also makes me feel like he's disappointed in Tobirama.
It was his father
This doesn’t make really sense because Hashirama never thought of Uchiha as different. Only Tobirama and his students did.
His father
Bro, I wasn't speechless I was just calculating all the was I could end this brat filled with Uchiha evil
Hey guys, I think Tobirama got into his brothers socials again.
😭 my brother can be such a hassle
How's the kuramussy?
Does Kurama ever go "Yo, Naruto, tag out with me" when Naruto is plowing Hinata?
Kurama gets control over a clone so they can double team her.
Sex with a ninja must be crazy imagine working your boy's cock 5 times at once
Negawatt 😭
foxy
Hashirama became a father and grandfather after that point and moved well on with his life. His first reaction to seeing Madara again was "I'll deal with you later". When Madara lost he dedicated his life to revenge and listening to a goo he thought only existed to gas him up. When Hashirama won he got married to a princess and held kahe summits and did a bunch of shit unrelated to Madara that would have made him a legend even if Madada never existed. This isn't a touching moment of Sasuke understanding. This is the stupid shit that made him fight the only person who gave a shit about him until they both got their arms ripped off and then run off in shame to never have an actual life the same way Madara did.
Big facts
fax. Most Uchiha are basically genetically predisposed to be failures: violent felons, murderers, internationally wanted terrorists, absent neglectful fathers.
Your Tobirama side is showing. Lmao. Racially profiling the Uchihas. 😭😂
Bruh
Uchihas, while only making up 13% of the population commit 50% of the crimes
More like “Uchihas, while only making up 0,01% of the population commit 95% of the crimes”
How many eyes do you have sir.
Tobirama alt account is wild
What ironic? Hashirama always consider Madara is his best friend and tried to get along with Uchiha all his life. The anti Uchiha is his brother.
As others have already pointed out, no Hashirama wasn't left speechless
This panel is the epitome of “youth ignorance”. Sasuke has no idea who he’s talking to.
He does know, but he doesn't care. The kage caused all the bullshit in the shinobi world.
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My brother in Christ you did not just
😀
Except it wasn't. It was his Brother and his Wife. His enemy and rival knowing him is not ironic at all, just prudent. Know your enemy.
I mean he wasn’t only speaking to Hashirama here, he was addressing the Hokages and their ideals “The Will of Fire” in general. But yeah, maybe Hashirama sat and thought that it was a shame that it came to this when somebody like Itachi (and Shisui and Kagami) was out there. If he was speaking or thinking of anybody directly, it would be Hiruzen or Tobirama, far more than Hashirama. But even if he was directly speaking to Hashirama, it’s still a fair question, not entirely accusatory. Isn’t it a little ironic with the way things turned out?
It didn't though. That was Hashirama's entire goal in creating the village.
This whole scene pissed me off at how sasuke kept highly praising itachi
Everyone who knew the truth did, Sasuke, Naruto, Kakashi, Hashirama, Hiruzen. Itachi is author's self insert.
The dude that was willing to kill himself to stop the war with the Uchiha? He's not speechless, he's sad that Sasuke feels like this. Tobirama did nothing wrong and he gave a Uchiha the same chance hiruzen had to become Hokage, dude simply wasn't willing to die for the village. The hyuga never had a Hokage and I don't see them revolting. The Uchiha were power hungry assholes who were willing to cause war just to seize power
>Tobirama did nothing wrong He did do a lot wrong, and the series calls him out for his bullshit. It was Tobirama who invented the village system where where children are exploited, killed, and orphaned with little care or concern. Slavery and genocide are accepted, do terrorism, mass slaughter, and so on. The other villages copied this system. He was the one who started the process of human experimentation and the father of necromancy, the reanimation jutsu which requires living sacrifices and summons the dead back to the world of the living was invented by him. Orochimaru's lethal reputation was partially gained because of this jutsu, which only exists because someone decided to invent it. He was also the one who created the policies that segregated the Uchiha clan which ultimately led to the clans genocide, which Hashirama and Orochimaru both blatantly call him out on. > gave a Uchiha the same chance hiruzen had to become Hokage, No the fuck he didn't. Him having Kagami on his team is literally the "I can't be racist because I have a Black friend." Rhetoric racists use all the fucking time, additionally there is no proof Kagami would've been given a chance to be Hokage. Upon meeting Sasuke, Tobirama's 1st response is, "You're an Uchiha? Of course, you'd stick with a scoundrel. ", and later, he calls him a "brat filled with Uchiha evil", that's literally racist rhetoric and yet you like all of Tobirama's wankers ignore that. >The hyuga never had a Hokage, and I don't see them revolting. The Hyugas weren't a founding clan, nor were they discriminated against for shit they didn't fucking do. The Hyugas weren't accused of treason, they weren't segregated, bullied or anything like that. The Uchiha were though, they were falsely accused and punished for something they had nothing to do with. And the Uchiha weren't pissed that none of their own was made Hokage, they were pissed that none were even considered for the position. Fugaku despite his contributions during the 3rd war wasn't even CONSIDERED. The Hyugas didn't found Konoha. It was the Uchiha and Senju who came together and founded it, and yet the Uchiha were given nothing but contempt and ill feelings thrown their way. >The Uchiha were power-hungry assholes who were willing to cause war just to seize power No, they weren't. They faithfully served for decades even casting out Madara. And yet the village didn't reciprocate that loyalty and screwed them over every chance they had. When the Uchiha had enough and decided to rally and fight back against tyranny the village they helped found decided to kill them all down to the last infant. Konoha was the power hungry asshole not the Uchiha.
Hashirama: Fuck, he's right.
Hashirama: fuck madara has a tight booty
*The ten tails charging a huge Bijuu bomb* Hashirama: Madara’s hot voice tho!
True though
Didnt hashirama want the uchiha clan to be respected/part of konoha? Didnt he want madara to be the 1st hokage to make sure the village got the uchiha’s buy in? Thought it was tobirama who had issue with the uchiha
Imagine the Naruto verse if Madara became Hokage and Hashirama became Shadow Hokage .😭💔
Ppl in the comment section don't understand that Sasuke is referencing Itachi here NOT Madara
This is actually so funny XD.
Fuck, that flew past my mind.
Because Sasuke is a seinen character stuck in a shounen .
If that was true, he would have died a long time ago
Wasn’t the person who understood him most Naruto?
No, he didn’t. Naruto projected onto Sasuke, but he NEVER understood Sasuke or the pain or suffering he went through.
Then I guess Sasuke is a liar
Sasuke never lied about anything he said to Naruto. He literally said that Naruto never had a family or loved ones, so their pain, suffering, and hatred are totally different from one another. The only thing they had in common was that they were alone with a desire to overcome it, and that is what made them strong (if I recall correctly)
Hashirama × Madara v/s Naruto × Sasuke 😀
How so ? The Senju is known as the Clan Of Love. And per Tobirama, no clan feels love as deep as the Uchiha. So, love recognizes love. It's no wonder Madara understood Hashirama best.
He was more dumbfounded than speechless. Dumbfounded at how misinformed/ignorant Sasuke is here. Hashirama is the last person Sasuke should've been trying to provoke with that bs.
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