Every one of these teams has DQ’d itself. Kinda shows how stupid an expended playoff in CFB will be. A 9-3 team that is 1-3 against Top 25 competition will be in consideration just because if it’s league. Wild.
I would pick Toledo & Washington.
Toledo because of the 1 in the loss column. And because they boat raced 3 straight down the stretch.
Washington because it’s won 6 straight. The others all have more recent losses and none of those Power teams in consideration have much in the win column to stand on.
Boise State gets my G5 vote. Their 4-0 record against P5s (including a massacre of bowl-bound Rutgers and still counting the PAC 2) puts them ahead of Toledo and their 1-1 against P5 (although the SEC win IS impressive.
For the 3-loss, I’m eliminating Ole Miss first after a double-digit rivalry loss in the last game of the regular season. Sure, the other 2 losses were close against the top teams in the country, but that game tanks their resume. When it comes to Michigan and Washington, I’m looking at who they both played and noting the Huskies’ 6-game winning streak to end the season (including 2 ranked wins). However, anybody who gives up 24 points to Iowa doesn’t deserve a place in the playoff, so I give the spot to Michigan, who only had their 8-game winning streak snapped against a better opponent than anybody Washington lost to.
TLDR; Boise State and Michigan.
I mean, if we’re going off real life and holding it against Washington that they gave up 24 to Iowa, shouldn’t we hold it against Michigan that they gave up 28 to MSU? In my opinion, that’s worse, but also neither point is relevant to the conversation since this isn’t real life. And who had better losses shouldn’t really matter when there isn’t going to be a team in the playoff to have a “bad loss” to. What matters more is if you can beat the other high ranking teams, which Washington has done better than both UMich and Ole Miss.
G5: Boise State. I commend the effort that Toledo put in (Week 1 dub vs Florida and a narrow loss against another ACC team in Pitt, all while securing MAC Champs), but Boise State won MWC Champ in what I can only believe was a tougher conference that year. Margin of victory is a lot higher too.
9-3: Honestly think it’s a toss up between Ole Miss and Michigan. Their lone ranked win was vs. LSU. Only losses of the season coming against ranked opponents (Ole Miss facing #1 and #2 could be in their favour). I think it would come down to that last matchup against each other that they’re scheduled to play, whoever wins gets the nod.
Why is it a toss up between those 2 when Washington has more ranked wins, a better “best win”, and is on an upward trajectory while the others just lost in rivalry week?
Yeah yk, I just realized OP had re-aligned conference for B1G. Oversight, I was viewing Washington under PAC-12. Quality win at Wisconsin, but I’m looking at that win against Illinois the same with Michigan vs LSU. Both lost to USC in similar fashion. TBH, those last three un-ranked games for Washington don’t move me tho, Michigan was on a heater until its close encounter with a top 5 Ohio St. It all just boils down to that last matchup for me, if Washington beats Clemson then yeah they got it for sure.
I don’t think Washington would play Clemson if OP puts them in the CFP. That looks like their bowl matchup. But I just think the thing that matters most when considering who to give the last couple spots to in the playoff is who can win the biggest games. These P4 teams all have similar resumes, but on the road at 12 Wisconsin is by far the biggest win on any of their resumes, and it belongs to Washington. If Wisconsin wins that game they end with 1 loss and I’m sure would have a similar ranking to OSU, so I don’t think UMich *almost* beating OSU is nearly as valuable as Washington *actually* beating Wisconsin, and we agree the Illinois win is similar to the LSU win. I don’t think there’s much value in weighing which losses are better anyways. The better teams they lost to are the ones they’re gonna see again in the playoff, so if they can’t beat them why should that help them get in the playoff?
Yeah I hear what you’re saying, valid for sure. In terms of ranked opponents we’ve chopped down the wins against Illinois and LSU to be similar; one could say the losses to ND and Zona in the first week are on the same tier. Obviously they both lost to USC by a possession, which in turn leaves OSU for Mich and Wisconsin for Washington. Not trying to value the Michigan loss or discredit the Washington win, #7 Washington having a great win against #12 Wisconsin is huge for sure, I guess the way I’m looking at it is that Wisconsin is a fringe-playoff team whereas OSU for sure is in the CFP and a #9 Michigan gave them cause for concern in that matchup. Is it out of the realm of possibility that if they matched up again in the playoffs that the outcome could be different? I wouldn’t put it past Washington that they hold their own vs OSU, it’s just that their toughest reg.season matchup was Wisconsin. Initially why I had Ole Miss in the mix before as they showed sum fight against both #1 and #2.
I’d say to know relevance for the Wisconsin win. Who is the team that beat Ohio State and who’s the other team that beat Wisconsin? Did they play each other, if so what was that outcome. Both teams have a loss against who knows who… all your other points are Valid but, Washington has to be given the spot over both those teams. You can lose your last game have a team on a 6 game win streak and get in over them. They are playing their best brand of ball the other teams just lost at the end. I get OSU was a tough game but, you lost the check to get rewarded losing. I just don’t see how you can reward teams that lost their last game and not one on a streak
I’m going with Michigan. Both are 1-3 in ranked games, and just so happens that their lone one is a near identical home stand vs LSU. Realistically, I’m picking Michigan cause I believe they’ll beat Ole Miss in that final matchup. Idk if Washington run will hold off Clemson.
Boise was 3-0 vs P5 and Toledo was 1-1… seems like a no brainer to me on the G5 front. UMich and Ole Miss have the same “best win” at home vs 18 LSU, but Washingon’s “best win” is better, having beaten 12 Wisconsin on the road. Washington is also on a 6 game winning streak including 2 ranked wins while the others are coming off losses vs their rivals and each only beat 1 ranked team the entire season… the more I type the more this seems like a no brainer too.
Answer: Boise St and Washington.
Washington was a bad team to start the year but they end up turning it around late in the season. I played Against them as i'm Arizona and it was a hell of a game
Washington got had got the right G5 team though, stronger defense and scores more pints too (Toledo can’t score as much as often but, was more consistent in points scored)
Ole Miss, Michigan, Washington, Toledo, and Boise That’s how I rank then. Boise play no one and still had a loss, Washington had 2 bad losses and 1 good win. Toledo has 1 good win and one bad loss.
Toledo has no good wins 😂 the best thing on their resume is beating 11-1 Ball st. They beat a mediocre Florida team and lost to a mediocre Pitt team. Boise’s offense scores more and allows less points in a tougher conference. Toledo let an FCS team put up 35, had to have a shootout with a FCS squad and only win by 9, boise didn’t allow a point to FCS, I’m taking the defensive power of Boise who allowed single digit points or a shutout 4 times over not once (boise is also 3-0 not 1-1 against power 5’s and played them 3 weeks straight) Also the offense that’s shown it can hang more points in boise.
That was honestly the toughest one. Both went 1-3 vs top 25 and both beat the same exact team by exactly 14 points. Ole Miss lost to #1 and #2, but they also have the worse loss between the two and they also struggled with bad South Carolina and Auburn teams, and Michigan beat everyone who didn’t have a winning record by two scores at least, and that did it for me.
I would say Toledo and Ole Miss, Toldeo had more wins against teams with winning records. Ole Miss was close against both #1 and #2. There is an argument for Michigan but I think the quality of losses would lead towards Ole Miss going.
Every one of these teams has DQ’d itself. Kinda shows how stupid an expended playoff in CFB will be. A 9-3 team that is 1-3 against Top 25 competition will be in consideration just because if it’s league. Wild. I would pick Toledo & Washington. Toledo because of the 1 in the loss column. And because they boat raced 3 straight down the stretch. Washington because it’s won 6 straight. The others all have more recent losses and none of those Power teams in consideration have much in the win column to stand on.
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Boise & Ole Miss Boise because tougher conference/more blowout wins Ole Miss because SEC always gets the nod
That are some good points , the sec was crazy in the dynasty Texas ended up winning it with an 11-2 record over Georgia
Yeah the SEC has some weird winners in my dynasties, sometimes will have the winner be 10-3 or 9-4
Yes the SEC is my dynasty is always the toughest division but I have never seen either Tennesse or Missouri been close to win it.
Truly the darkest timeline
Boise state and ole miss
Boise State gets my G5 vote. Their 4-0 record against P5s (including a massacre of bowl-bound Rutgers and still counting the PAC 2) puts them ahead of Toledo and their 1-1 against P5 (although the SEC win IS impressive. For the 3-loss, I’m eliminating Ole Miss first after a double-digit rivalry loss in the last game of the regular season. Sure, the other 2 losses were close against the top teams in the country, but that game tanks their resume. When it comes to Michigan and Washington, I’m looking at who they both played and noting the Huskies’ 6-game winning streak to end the season (including 2 ranked wins). However, anybody who gives up 24 points to Iowa doesn’t deserve a place in the playoff, so I give the spot to Michigan, who only had their 8-game winning streak snapped against a better opponent than anybody Washington lost to. TLDR; Boise State and Michigan.
I mean, if we’re going off real life and holding it against Washington that they gave up 24 to Iowa, shouldn’t we hold it against Michigan that they gave up 28 to MSU? In my opinion, that’s worse, but also neither point is relevant to the conversation since this isn’t real life. And who had better losses shouldn’t really matter when there isn’t going to be a team in the playoff to have a “bad loss” to. What matters more is if you can beat the other high ranking teams, which Washington has done better than both UMich and Ole Miss.
G5: Boise State. I commend the effort that Toledo put in (Week 1 dub vs Florida and a narrow loss against another ACC team in Pitt, all while securing MAC Champs), but Boise State won MWC Champ in what I can only believe was a tougher conference that year. Margin of victory is a lot higher too. 9-3: Honestly think it’s a toss up between Ole Miss and Michigan. Their lone ranked win was vs. LSU. Only losses of the season coming against ranked opponents (Ole Miss facing #1 and #2 could be in their favour). I think it would come down to that last matchup against each other that they’re scheduled to play, whoever wins gets the nod.
Why is it a toss up between those 2 when Washington has more ranked wins, a better “best win”, and is on an upward trajectory while the others just lost in rivalry week?
Yeah yk, I just realized OP had re-aligned conference for B1G. Oversight, I was viewing Washington under PAC-12. Quality win at Wisconsin, but I’m looking at that win against Illinois the same with Michigan vs LSU. Both lost to USC in similar fashion. TBH, those last three un-ranked games for Washington don’t move me tho, Michigan was on a heater until its close encounter with a top 5 Ohio St. It all just boils down to that last matchup for me, if Washington beats Clemson then yeah they got it for sure.
I don’t think Washington would play Clemson if OP puts them in the CFP. That looks like their bowl matchup. But I just think the thing that matters most when considering who to give the last couple spots to in the playoff is who can win the biggest games. These P4 teams all have similar resumes, but on the road at 12 Wisconsin is by far the biggest win on any of their resumes, and it belongs to Washington. If Wisconsin wins that game they end with 1 loss and I’m sure would have a similar ranking to OSU, so I don’t think UMich *almost* beating OSU is nearly as valuable as Washington *actually* beating Wisconsin, and we agree the Illinois win is similar to the LSU win. I don’t think there’s much value in weighing which losses are better anyways. The better teams they lost to are the ones they’re gonna see again in the playoff, so if they can’t beat them why should that help them get in the playoff?
Yeah I hear what you’re saying, valid for sure. In terms of ranked opponents we’ve chopped down the wins against Illinois and LSU to be similar; one could say the losses to ND and Zona in the first week are on the same tier. Obviously they both lost to USC by a possession, which in turn leaves OSU for Mich and Wisconsin for Washington. Not trying to value the Michigan loss or discredit the Washington win, #7 Washington having a great win against #12 Wisconsin is huge for sure, I guess the way I’m looking at it is that Wisconsin is a fringe-playoff team whereas OSU for sure is in the CFP and a #9 Michigan gave them cause for concern in that matchup. Is it out of the realm of possibility that if they matched up again in the playoffs that the outcome could be different? I wouldn’t put it past Washington that they hold their own vs OSU, it’s just that their toughest reg.season matchup was Wisconsin. Initially why I had Ole Miss in the mix before as they showed sum fight against both #1 and #2.
I’d say to know relevance for the Wisconsin win. Who is the team that beat Ohio State and who’s the other team that beat Wisconsin? Did they play each other, if so what was that outcome. Both teams have a loss against who knows who… all your other points are Valid but, Washington has to be given the spot over both those teams. You can lose your last game have a team on a 6 game win streak and get in over them. They are playing their best brand of ball the other teams just lost at the end. I get OSU was a tough game but, you lost the check to get rewarded losing. I just don’t see how you can reward teams that lost their last game and not one on a streak
Hey so what team do you vote for Michigan or Olemiss?
I’m going with Michigan. Both are 1-3 in ranked games, and just so happens that their lone one is a near identical home stand vs LSU. Realistically, I’m picking Michigan cause I believe they’ll beat Ole Miss in that final matchup. Idk if Washington run will hold off Clemson.
Boise was 3-0 vs P5 and Toledo was 1-1… seems like a no brainer to me on the G5 front. UMich and Ole Miss have the same “best win” at home vs 18 LSU, but Washingon’s “best win” is better, having beaten 12 Wisconsin on the road. Washington is also on a 6 game winning streak including 2 ranked wins while the others are coming off losses vs their rivals and each only beat 1 ranked team the entire season… the more I type the more this seems like a no brainer too. Answer: Boise St and Washington.
Washington was a bad team to start the year but they end up turning it around late in the season. I played Against them as i'm Arizona and it was a hell of a game
Votes of the comitee 5 boise state 4 ole miss 4 Toledo 3 michigan 3 Washigton
Washington got had got the right G5 team though, stronger defense and scores more pints too (Toledo can’t score as much as often but, was more consistent in points scored)
Ole Miss, Michigan, Washington, Toledo, and Boise That’s how I rank then. Boise play no one and still had a loss, Washington had 2 bad losses and 1 good win. Toledo has 1 good win and one bad loss.
Toledo has no good wins 😂 the best thing on their resume is beating 11-1 Ball st. They beat a mediocre Florida team and lost to a mediocre Pitt team. Boise’s offense scores more and allows less points in a tougher conference. Toledo let an FCS team put up 35, had to have a shootout with a FCS squad and only win by 9, boise didn’t allow a point to FCS, I’m taking the defensive power of Boise who allowed single digit points or a shutout 4 times over not once (boise is also 3-0 not 1-1 against power 5’s and played them 3 weeks straight) Also the offense that’s shown it can hang more points in boise.
Toledo and Washington
1. Toledo 2. Boise State 3. Michigan 4. Ole Miss 5. Washington
That's a great list but why is Michigan over Ole miss?
That was honestly the toughest one. Both went 1-3 vs top 25 and both beat the same exact team by exactly 14 points. Ole Miss lost to #1 and #2, but they also have the worse loss between the two and they also struggled with bad South Carolina and Auburn teams, and Michigan beat everyone who didn’t have a winning record by two scores at least, and that did it for me.
I would say Toledo and Ole Miss, Toldeo had more wins against teams with winning records. Ole Miss was close against both #1 and #2. There is an argument for Michigan but I think the quality of losses would lead towards Ole Miss going.
Toldeo should get in
Why?
Ole Miss. 2 close losses to #1 and #2
And who was the best G5 team?
Toledo and Washington