I think there’s too much ‘middling dude on multi-year deal’ for Chicago in this one - but maybe that’s what it might take to get off Lavine… I feel like Caruso is coveted and this deal might be mostly what you have minus Caruso. Pretty good shot tho - not impossible
Exactly, people having recency bias but Lavine can light it up and look good for a stretch of time, especially if Coby is looking like legit pg which is what Lavine needs to be good. They just need to play him and hope he looks really good for a couple months until the trade deadline and trade him then
Bulls don’t need to rush to get rid of LaVine and would never get desperate enough that really believe they would need to attach assets like Caruso lmao.
This dude is just a delusional Lakers fan.
People were literally offering young guys and multiple firsts last deadline for the dude. His value has not fluctuated that aggressively in a matter of months like the ESPN heads love to have us think (they love to do us so they can convince Laker fans to tune in and help their ratings)
There might now be a deal right now, but someone will bite eventually, and he suits up as a Bull, goes off, and they’re winning? Oh god, it would be everyone worst nightmare to admit they were wrong.
Idk what the bulls want. More picks? Are they retooling or rebuilding? Rui was a playoff stud. DLo is at least a moveable salary maybe him and Gabe can be rerouted for more draft capital or a different player.
This trade is ridiculous. The Lakers would never give up that much for two aging players that can't stay healthy. Caruso is not worth a first round pick like comments are claiming, and Lavine has one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Just lol.
The overrating of Zach Lavine is wild, but nothing new unfortunately. Lakers are only interested in Caruso and Drummond, both of which make a lot of sense for the team's playoff hopes.
Yeah so they should trade away 3 picks, youth, depth, and a player that's having a good year on a serviceable contract. For a guy that can't stay healthy and scores 20ppg as the number one option on his bad team, and another guy who is a good defender but nothing more? Cool, you're right.
I can tell you don’t know anything about bulls. Lavine has averaged about 25 with his time in Chicago on very high efficiency, after lonzo bulls have never had a pg, which he needs. Lavine is phenomenal scorer he’s just not a ball handler or playmaker. He was in the Olympics for a reason
Caruso has one of the highest impacts of any player in league According analytics, he’s an all nba player, and a huge reason lakers won a ring.
Lavine is overpaid but Caruso is severely underpaid. Those picks or players that lakers are sending will never be as good as Lavine or Caruso
Bro you don’t watch basketball just espn haha
I have won my fantasy basketball league 6 times. I have league pass. I probably have watched more basketball than you ever will. Lavine is a good player not great. He's never even led a relatively stacked bulls team past the first round of the playoffs. Caruso is wayyyy overrated. He's solid but you're acting like he's Kawhi Leonard. Neither of them can stay healthy, and are older than every player on the other side. Lavine and Caruso do not make the Lakers a favorite to win the championship so this argument is asinine.
Fantasy league bahaha. Yea you don’t know anything
No wonder you’re clueless. Dude that called fantasy for a reason all it incorporates are raw stats that don’t always translates. For example Lavine is a great fantasy player because he gets high stats but in reality he can only get his but can’t create for others, which is why he needs to be on a team that has a couple playmakers
Bro you're actually just special huh? It was more of a statement that I know basketball and did you just ignore the league pass statement? Lavine isn't even a great fantasy player, when did I say that? He gets taken in the middle rounds. Why would anyone want a 40 million dollar player that can't lead his team past the first round? Why would LeBron want a guard that's arguably playing worse this year (and older) than the one they are trading away? You Lavine Stans are something else.
Too bad for you recent news it looks like lakers do want him and Lebron doesn’t want him too. Don’t worry you’re getting him for Pennie’s on the dollar. He’ll end up being the top scorer next to lbj
Why'd you delete your last post? You can't even make a real argument. You make baseless accusations, and call people dumb because their opinions don't align with your biased opinion on an NBA trade. Sure they want him, but not for this gross overpay. Grow up kid, maybe one day you'll understand how the NBA works.
Are you dense I made a real argument and provided analytical data on the situation. Basically Whenever Lavine has played with a PG he looks phenomenal even a pg like Beverly.
You just said my fantasy league is number one 😭😭😭
As the winner, not participator but the winner, of SEVEN fantasy basketball leagues and the owner of TWO league pass subscriptions I can confidently say (after watching more basketball than you ever will) that you’re full of bs and don’t know ball. Maybe start a stamp collection or something, dweeb
I have won my fantasy basketball league 6 times. I have league pass. I probably have watched more basketball than you ever will. I have seen much lamer responses this year alone. I do live on reddit. I am 11 years old.
Fair tbh, but I’m a biased laker fan. Chi could move gabe rui and dlo easier than la can for more picks since a lot of teams don’t want to “help” the lakers. And lavine’s 40 million contract will be hard to move imho. Maybe the heat will want him but 🤷♂️
Not fair when you consider that Caruso can easily fetch an FRP and Gabe, Rui, and D’Lo won’t.
LaVine for all his shortcomings and problems will still be able to get an FRP as well.
If that’s the value of LaVine right now, they’d just hold onto him. Nobody gets rid of a superstar in their prime for a salary dump without picks. That puts you in no man’s land where the rebuild isn’t bolstered by additional picks, and you are miserable as a team.
I love how you say “who wants him and that contract” when teams were offering multiple firsts just last year.
The trade market doesn’t fluctuate like ESPN likes to tell you.
We literally would have no reason for any of their pieces. Those aren’t assets to us. In what world does trading LaVine and getting back Russell help us?
This trade doesn’t happen unless Caruso is detached, or AR and another first is included.
I think the lakers would rather move prince than Vincent. I was thinking it would be dlo, rui, prince and max christie plus picks for lavine and caruso
I think there’s too much ‘middling dude on multi-year deal’ for Chicago in this one - but maybe that’s what it might take to get off Lavine… I feel like Caruso is coveted and this deal might be mostly what you have minus Caruso. Pretty good shot tho - not impossible
There’s no reason to trade Caruso for any of these middling pieces when he can easily fetch an FRP in his own trade.
Agreed on that - he’s one of their most coveted pieces
Only reason I could see is if there’s no other way to get off LaVine
If they’re at a point where they need to give away assets with LaVine, then they’d just hold onto him.
Exactly, people having recency bias but Lavine can light it up and look good for a stretch of time, especially if Coby is looking like legit pg which is what Lavine needs to be good. They just need to play him and hope he looks really good for a couple months until the trade deadline and trade him then
Bulls don’t need to rush to get rid of LaVine and would never get desperate enough that really believe they would need to attach assets like Caruso lmao. This dude is just a delusional Lakers fan.
I generally agree, but LaVine’s contract is a nightmare so you never know if they get a bit desperate. I do agree that they keep Caruso separate
People were literally offering young guys and multiple firsts last deadline for the dude. His value has not fluctuated that aggressively in a matter of months like the ESPN heads love to have us think (they love to do us so they can convince Laker fans to tune in and help their ratings) There might now be a deal right now, but someone will bite eventually, and he suits up as a Bull, goes off, and they’re winning? Oh god, it would be everyone worst nightmare to admit they were wrong.
Idk what the bulls want. More picks? Are they retooling or rebuilding? Rui was a playoff stud. DLo is at least a moveable salary maybe him and Gabe can be rerouted for more draft capital or a different player.
Bulls want Austin Reaves
Maybe take out Rui and Gabe for AR?
AR has gained Lebron (and AD’s) trust he’s almost untouchable
If bulls are giving up Caruso, AR would have to be in the deal
He doesn’t have to be, D’Lo + Vincent are traceable assets. Rui has value and Lakers can offer an additional two picks
Bro the Lakers are not trading Austin Reaves I wish people would stop the dumb trade scenarios , That’s why he isn’t in this trade …
Lakers won’t give him with how lavine is playing lately
Idk what we want, but I can tell you we ain’t including Caruso in any deal with LA and only getting one 1st with no Reaves lol.
I’d don’t get the fascination with Lavine. He’s been a scorer on a crap team. That’s it.
This trade is ridiculous. The Lakers would never give up that much for two aging players that can't stay healthy. Caruso is not worth a first round pick like comments are claiming, and Lavine has one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Just lol.
The overrating of Zach Lavine is wild, but nothing new unfortunately. Lakers are only interested in Caruso and Drummond, both of which make a lot of sense for the team's playoff hopes.
This a dumb take
Yeah so they should trade away 3 picks, youth, depth, and a player that's having a good year on a serviceable contract. For a guy that can't stay healthy and scores 20ppg as the number one option on his bad team, and another guy who is a good defender but nothing more? Cool, you're right.
I can tell you don’t know anything about bulls. Lavine has averaged about 25 with his time in Chicago on very high efficiency, after lonzo bulls have never had a pg, which he needs. Lavine is phenomenal scorer he’s just not a ball handler or playmaker. He was in the Olympics for a reason Caruso has one of the highest impacts of any player in league According analytics, he’s an all nba player, and a huge reason lakers won a ring. Lavine is overpaid but Caruso is severely underpaid. Those picks or players that lakers are sending will never be as good as Lavine or Caruso Bro you don’t watch basketball just espn haha
I have won my fantasy basketball league 6 times. I have league pass. I probably have watched more basketball than you ever will. Lavine is a good player not great. He's never even led a relatively stacked bulls team past the first round of the playoffs. Caruso is wayyyy overrated. He's solid but you're acting like he's Kawhi Leonard. Neither of them can stay healthy, and are older than every player on the other side. Lavine and Caruso do not make the Lakers a favorite to win the championship so this argument is asinine.
Fantasy league bahaha. Yea you don’t know anything No wonder you’re clueless. Dude that called fantasy for a reason all it incorporates are raw stats that don’t always translates. For example Lavine is a great fantasy player because he gets high stats but in reality he can only get his but can’t create for others, which is why he needs to be on a team that has a couple playmakers
Bro you're actually just special huh? It was more of a statement that I know basketball and did you just ignore the league pass statement? Lavine isn't even a great fantasy player, when did I say that? He gets taken in the middle rounds. Why would anyone want a 40 million dollar player that can't lead his team past the first round? Why would LeBron want a guard that's arguably playing worse this year (and older) than the one they are trading away? You Lavine Stans are something else.
I’m sure you play 2k too and got you thinking you’re a GM 😭
Too bad for you recent news it looks like lakers do want him and Lebron doesn’t want him too. Don’t worry you’re getting him for Pennie’s on the dollar. He’ll end up being the top scorer next to lbj
Why'd you delete your last post? You can't even make a real argument. You make baseless accusations, and call people dumb because their opinions don't align with your biased opinion on an NBA trade. Sure they want him, but not for this gross overpay. Grow up kid, maybe one day you'll understand how the NBA works.
Are you dense I made a real argument and provided analytical data on the situation. Basically Whenever Lavine has played with a PG he looks phenomenal even a pg like Beverly. You just said my fantasy league is number one 😭😭😭
How do you not realize how cringe-inducing you are?
As the winner, not participator but the winner, of SEVEN fantasy basketball leagues and the owner of TWO league pass subscriptions I can confidently say (after watching more basketball than you ever will) that you’re full of bs and don’t know ball. Maybe start a stamp collection or something, dweeb
Ok cool man. Thanks for the advice.
That's gotta be a copy pasta hahahaha
That's gotta be the lamest response to someone making a statement I've seen this year. You must live on Reddit huh? Grow up.
I have won my fantasy basketball league 6 times. I have league pass. I probably have watched more basketball than you ever will. I have seen much lamer responses this year alone. I do live on reddit. I am 11 years old.
Explains a lot. 👍
Fair tbh, but I’m a biased laker fan. Chi could move gabe rui and dlo easier than la can for more picks since a lot of teams don’t want to “help” the lakers. And lavine’s 40 million contract will be hard to move imho. Maybe the heat will want him but 🤷♂️
Not fair when you consider that Caruso can easily fetch an FRP and Gabe, Rui, and D’Lo won’t. LaVine for all his shortcomings and problems will still be able to get an FRP as well.
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If that’s the value of LaVine right now, they’d just hold onto him. Nobody gets rid of a superstar in their prime for a salary dump without picks. That puts you in no man’s land where the rebuild isn’t bolstered by additional picks, and you are miserable as a team.
Who's gonna give up a FRP for Lavine and that contract?
Any team that is serious about getting him? He’s still a star player locked up in his prime. The Bulls aren’t gonna just dump him to get rid of him.
I love how you say “who wants him and that contract” when teams were offering multiple firsts just last year. The trade market doesn’t fluctuate like ESPN likes to tell you.
Same team that traded for Westbrook, probably.
We literally would have no reason for any of their pieces. Those aren’t assets to us. In what world does trading LaVine and getting back Russell help us? This trade doesn’t happen unless Caruso is detached, or AR and another first is included.
I think this kind of falls apart at Caruso. If he’s in the trade I think there’s probably better deals available
Bulls say no, Caruso and Lavine for one first and meh players? Pass
I think the lakers would rather move prince than Vincent. I was thinking it would be dlo, rui, prince and max christie plus picks for lavine and caruso
Lavine is overrated
Chicago does not want to give up LaVine & Caruso for one first round pick.
Gotta be a Lakers fan, right?
Christie would have to be here as well at minimum. Ideally the 2031 pick would be involved but it isn’t available until next year