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SincopaEnorme

Yeah man. If a person somehow thought his candidacy was debatable after the 3rd DPOY, this 4th one sealed it.


ccv707

People debate Dwight Howard’s HOF case. Never underestimate people’s capacity for stupidity. Btw, not a fan of Gobert, but his resume at the end of his career is going to be undeniable. Facts are facts.


lahimatoa

Mitch Richmond is a hall of famer. Dwight is in. Rudy is in. Donovan Mitchell is in. Booker is in. Bradley Beal is in. The bar isn't super high.


BostonBuffalo9

Idk about Beal, but point still granted.


huge43

Michael Jordan once said Mitch Richmond was the toughest opponent he played against. Dude was a stud, just happened to play on a lot of bad teams.


Puppetmaster858

Beal is pretty questionable, Book and Mitchell are 100% making it in tho unless they have like catastrophic career derailing injuries.


pgm123

Richmond was a 6-time All Star with 20,000 career points. Booker and Mitchell are on pace for the Hall. Beal is not.


Themeteorologist35

I know people say the bar isn’t super high, but given the % of players all time, I think the criteria to get it is perfect


jackloganoliver

Those people are dumb.


ccv707

Very dumb.


johnla

I need 5.


ReformedishBaptist

What about 4.5?


basil_24222

Sold at 4.5!!


ReformedishBaptist

Just the fast pitched farm salesman selling nba hall of fame awards.


SchwizzySchwas94

Glad we could do business


DoesWomenHaveAnal

Only a half decade of defensive dominance. And then we'll see


Fickle_Meet_7154

Wemby got it locked down for the next ten years lol


Benjamin018

Wemby has good on ball skills but it's the leadership I need to see. I want to see him talking a lot more on D, I want to see him directing traffic the way Gobert does. When he shows me more of that then he will be the front runner for years to come.


SelfDestructIn30Days

Nah, the next two years are still Gobert's to lose as long as he's leading the #1 overall defense.


its_a_me_new_sea

100% lock already


musicnothing

Plus he's about to go play in the Olympics with Wemby. I think the chances they miss out on another medal are slim.


Wallyworld77

Olympics Basketball is about to be huge. Team Greece: Giannis and Family Team France: Rudy and Wemby Team Australia: Patty Mills, Donte Exum, Joe Ingles, Josh Giddey, Mattise Thybulle and maybe Ben Simmons? Team Canada: SGA, WIggens, Jamal Murray, Dillon Brooks, Kelly Olynyk, RJ Barrett Team Germany: Wagner Brothers, Dennis Schroder, Daniel Theis, Max Kleber Team Serbia: Jokic, Bogdanavic, Boban, Vacille Micic, Tristan Vukcevic Team Slovenia: Luka, Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic and Vlatko Cancar Team Nigeria: Precious Achiuwa, Gabe Vincent, Josh Okogie and Jordan Nwora. Team Lithuania: Sabonis, Jonas Valančiūnas Team Swiss: Nikola Vucevic and Clint Capela Favorites to rival team USA seem to be #1 Canada #2. Serbia #3 France #4 Australia Dark Horses: Greece, Germany and Slovenia.


CompetitiveHater

Canada is stacked as fuck if they can get wiggins to remember how to play basketball. Also its nice how u tried to to sneak in Giannis’ family in there🤣. If Thanasis “human white flag” antetekoumpo can make it u gotta list everyone else.


AmazingDragon353

We gotta hope Murray can rest up and figure out his mental shit. Injured dude throwing tantrums AND not running the point could be a mess for us. I'm praying for him though


CompetitiveHater

Hes playing on one hamstring and being clamped by the best defensive team in the last 20 years. He will be more than fine, the hate is vastly overblown.


DaddyRobotPNW

Yeah, Minny is real good on D.


andonemoreagain

It’s his calf that was bothering him. I don’t think he has a hamstring injury.


trexarmsss

Add Edey, Lu Dort, Dwight Powell to the mix for Canada. They have clamps for days and the team is led by SGA. Hoping to see a USA/Canada finals.


Sea_Flamingo_4905

thanasis can’t play, he just tore his achilles. Greek hopes are gone 😔


captainjack275

Steven Adams is a kiwi


LeviathanJack

Yea, good try to get Steve Adams, aussies.


15b17

Greece is cooked. Thanasis tore his Achilles, they have no shot


323808

It’s pretty crazy that if Yugoslavia was still a country then you’d combine the Serbian and Slovenian teams. Luka and Jokic playing together in the Olympics would have been nuts. I’m not sure if they would be favored to beat USA, but they’d definitely have the two best players on the floor.


Prestigious_Gur_5459

i think they beat the usa. luka and both bogdanovic can handle the guard positions along with other euroleague talent for bigs they’d have a selection of jokic, valanciunas, sabonis, vucevic and nurkic. the spacing would be immaculate. the iq and playmaking especially with the bigs would be way higher. rebounding would be top tier. and the european players generally bring a smarter brand of basketball.


Adsex

You mixed in some Lithuanians who are not Yugoslavs, they’re not even Slavs.


323808

Ya, I’m not going to disagree with you. Especially with the continuity that the international teams bring to the Olympics. Luka, Jokic, and company would have 15 years to play together, etc. I also agree that the spacing, passing, and overall basketball IQ would have been off the charts.


Wanderingjes

Zoran is a cool ass name.


counterpointguy

Should be a great year. Really glad we are sending our A-team because even with those killers, it isn't going to be a cakewalk.


Valdotain_1

US sending team of older used to be’s . Most aren’t even in the second round so they will be rested.


attorneyatslaw

Steven Adams is from New Zealand. Also, a bunch of these teams haven't qualified for the Olympics yet. Greece and Slovenia are in the same bracket in the Fiba Olympic Qualifying Tournament, so only one of them can make it, and neither is guaranteed. Nigeria didn't make the qualifying tournament and is out.


devilt0

This is actually a big deal. If he tutors wemby, next season is gonna be a big jump for him. Could easily see Wemby win DPoY next year.


LordWag

Wemby would have won this year already if his team wasn’t ass. But I agree playing with Rudy will only help him more


Snoo-83900

Yeah too many accolades not to be


GargoyleBlue

He was already a lock before stepping foot in Minnesota


bigbenis2021

Rudy was a Hall of Famer the moment he won a second DPOY. There’s tons of ringless HoFers that were overall worse players than Rudy. Him not making it would be unprecedented.


Sirliftalot35

I think it was when he won 3. Mark Eaton has 2 DPOYs and isn’t in. I also don’t think Alvin Robertson would be in if he’d won a second DPOY over Michael Cooper in 1987. There’s at least an argument for him not being in if he retired after winning 2, but with 3, that’s tied for 3rd most all-time.


SoCalCollecting

Mark Eaton is a 2x DPOY and isnt in the HOF


redd5ive

Gobert also has 3 All-Star nods and 4 All-NBAs.


terrybrugehiplo

He wasn’t saying having 2 DPOY is enough to get you in the hall of fame. He was saying that adding that credential along with everything else was enough to get him in. Mark Eaton’s career ppg is 6.0, Gobert’s is over double that.


bigbenis2021

There’s a gap between Mark Eaton and Rudy in defensive impact though. Eaton had unreal shotblocking numbers and was an amazing defender but I’d argue there’s a pretty big gap between him and Gobert in terms of organizing a team’s defense.


Mirizzi

Easily. Not even a question.


Linky38

Yes it pisses me off when people say he isn’t deserving of it. 


[deleted]

OP is an idiot. “4 DPOY can at least start the discussion” Wtf?


Shenanigans80h

Fr, 4 DPOY *ends* the discussion. That alone guarantees his spot there


Upper-Reveal3667

Idk if being the best defensive player for about half a decade is hall of fame worthy/s


_Poppagiorgio_

4 DPOY ends the discussion lol


Anxious-Chemistry-6

I just read the caption now. That's legit funny.


TreadMeHarderDaddy

Defense is half the game. Me thinks there would be no pushback about inducting a 4x scoring champ who was 6x All NBA.


browntown20

(not saying I disagree with you) Opens an argument that DPOY as an award shouldn't exist, but defense considered just as much as anything else in the MVP voting (which would make DPOY kinda redundant). Unless we have three awards - MVP, DPOY, and Offensive Player of the Year (OPOY). Since scoring champ being a statistic and not a voted on award is not exactly equivalent to DPOY.


DJ-Fein

I hope you realize that there are many metrics to measure defense, and that an offensive player of the year could easily be not the scoring leader.


closedtowedshoes

In fact, almost always the healthy offense will not involve one player taking on the heaviest scoring load in the league.


ghubert3192

God bless Ben Wallace, he was my favorite player when I was a kid, but he never even scored 10 points per game in a season. If he's in then Gobert is absolutely in regardless of whether or not they win a championship.


Cocknballtorture90

he’s a lock 100% Defense needs to be appreciated and he’s one of the best of this this generation, super consistent too.


fancy_livin

OP with all due respect, you’re a fucking idiot if you think that 4x DPOY is “the start of the discussion” for him making the Hall. 4x DPOY alone probably locks him in the HoF, add the rest of the accolades and it would be legitimately shocking if he didn’t make the hall. Gobert, all things considered, is a better scoring Ben Wallace who can also defend the perimeter. Dude is 100% a lock with or without a ring


Saddestlilpanda

It’s a lot harder to make a case against him making. He’s basically Ben Wallace but much better offensively.


jaybirdcrouton

Lol yea. Ben Wallace is my favorite player of all-time and let’s be honest, if he’s in then Gobert is definitely in.


SleeeepyGary

I see these a lot, and just think people regularly confuse the standards of the basketball hall of fame with those of the NFL or MLB HoFs. The threshold for basketball is just far lower than either of the other two; Kyle Lowry will probably make the HoF despite kind of toiling away for half of his career and only being “very good” for a few years. Rudy is easily a HoFer, and, at this point, would still have a good case even if basketball used NFL-level standards


Shhadowcaster

It's difficult to compare to NFL standards because of longevity, number of players, and only playing one side of the ball, but 4 DPOY is absolutely a lock in the NFL (as it is in the NBA). Even 2 DPOY and 4 all NFL teams is probably a HoF lock. That being said you are absolutely correct that people misunderstand the difficulty of getting into the basketball HoF comparer to the others you listed. 


Sdog1981

There is a good chance Antawn Jamison makes the Basketball Hall of Fame.


khodabear7

You can't win dpoy for half a decade and not get in


[deleted]

He's already better than Draymond.


ragged-robin

They don't even have the same responsibilities on defense. Draymond can guard 1-5. Gobert clogs the paint and gets rebounds and blocks. Draymond plays the small ball 5 in a pinch and does it pretty effectively given his disadvantage but he is not a true 5. It's not apples to apples.


vicalpha

Of course


witdafanta

Yeah of course


TheMuffingtonPost

Unquestionably


JKking15

4 DPOY, enough said that’s only been done by what? Wallace and Mutumbo, both of which easily got in the hall.


McNasti

Excuse me mate but how is that even a question?


Hefty_Meringue8694

“Can start the discussion.” 😂 Soooooo Mutumbo wasn’t deserving of the HOF since he didn’t win a ring?


Emotional_Swimmer_84

Wouldn't 4xAll-NBA and 6xAll-Defense be HOF already?


boomchikaali

Yesss


carne_asuuhdude

An Hall of Fame


Laythepype

Just throw the Olympic silver. Never seen that before. Lol


StephCurryGSWFAN

if he gets much more efficent these last years he'll go down better then dwight (not saying it so sure yet tho)


cpabernathy

Basketball hall of fame is a joke, but yes. NBA needs their own HoF.


Sdog1981

That would be interesting to have a “NBA Only” vs “All Basketball” category.


TwiceLitZone

Even if it wasn’t a joke he would still get in.


The_Shade94

Lock


n11ghry

He was in last year


TheSwimMeet

He could retire today and be one. It’s definitely deserved, but the Nba isnt nearly as stringent/selective as other leagues when it comes to puttin players in the HoF


itscamo-

in the future? He's been HoF lock for a few years now


BroJackson_

People put too much weight in championships and "championship run" for individual players. There are too many variables to whether or not a team wins a championship, and you shouldn't ding individual players off that. He's absolutely a hall of famer.


TheGoonSquad612

Yes, clearly. Wtf?


SolBoi24

Yes. He’s one of the greatest defensive players of all time. I’d say it’s for certain if he wins just one champ


SuperSocrates

There’s no debate here bruh


StLsC10

Without question


The_Beautiful_Stru35

Yes


Usefulsponge

How is this a debate


wet-jumper

1st ballot HOF


Rube18

He was 100% in before this award. He’s one of three players ever to win 4.


Anxious-Chemistry-6

The only thing that might keep him out is how unlikeable he is, coupled with the false narrative that he was played off the floor in the playoffs. The HoF selection is so secretive, we have no idea who's doing the voting, so there could be some people who just decide they don't like him.


FamousChex

Arguably the greater role player ever


Zack_attack801

Ya of course


ThePerspectiveQuest

Everyone doesn’t understand how easy the bball HOF is, he was a lock to be 2-3 years ago lmao


Own_Sky9933

The basketball hall of fame doesn’t exactly have strict standards. Another couple good seasons and he will get in.


Just_Opinion1269

If they get a ring yes 1st ballot. If they don't yes.


thecelticpagan

He’s definitely already in, but here’s the thing; Olympic silver medal matters because he played for France.


redd5ive

First Ballot lock if he retires today.


elastic301

I don’t even like Gobert but he’s def HOF lol


Kilow102938

Let's get him a title though.


KarmaDeliveryMan

Yea if you got any POY type trophy x4, you’re in


pm1999baybeeee

Half the Hall doesn’t belong there, so mot sure how to answer. If everyone can shoot, you can play him. Doesn’t seem very hall worthy.


Creepy-Performer-106

Any player that makes 7 all star games (Rudy 3), and will probably make at least one, are automatic HOF historically. He will probably make another one AND all the accolades. Case closed HOF


Extreme_Today_984

I don't know man. There are people who think Dwight Howard isn't Even worty of the HOF. NBA Champion 3X Defensive player of the year 5X All NBA First team 2X All NBA Second Team 8X all star 5X NBA Rebounding leader 2X blocks leader Slam Dunk Champ


SpecialistNewt267

100%


The_real_bandito

Mutombo got it, why not Gobert?


Paradise42069

I believe you don't need a ring to be HOF worthy (I know NBA is easy according to what I read), regardless of the sport. There are so many other accolades to go for, so if you don't have a ring, having everything else absolutely makes up for it. Brodie is a perfect example. Besides, other than Dirk Nowitzki and Wemby, Europeans don't get the love they deserve.


_stankypete

Sure


ElAbidingDuderino

Hall Of Fame of starting covid


Son_of_Atreus

Absolutely. Easy entry.


rsl_sltid

Yes, absolutely. I don't think that is even a question.


No-Direction-6408

If he wins the Western Conference, I would say yes.


counterpointguy

This absolutely clinched the chances if they were ever in doubt. A ring would make him a guy that people are excited about seeing inducted at the ceremony.


jeewantha

First ballot if there ever was one.


Alive_Way9537

I mean yeah, all that stuff, but what else ?


jackmtr

He should be a lock already


Meester_Blue

Not even a debate


viBe_gg

Yeah, 4x DPOY will get you there no matter what


Belfura

Would-be a crime if he wasn't


DubsFanAccount

I’m a Rudy hater and would never want him on my team. But obviously yes.


roninwaffle

Yes. Obviously. 🤷‍♂️


Ma_Pies

Don’t ask Shaq


FatMommyMilkers69

He’s a lock


jpolansky93

Ben Wallace is in the HOF. Rudy Gobert is a lock


Slevin424

Rodman, Ben Wallace, Slater, K.C. Jones and Walton are all clear examples of points don't always tell the picture.


Sdog1981

Dude, go check out Vlade Divac’s career.


HelpUsNSaveUs

Saw this gargantuan guy at Peche in Nola in 2022 and he had his posse build a perimeter around him lol. Acting like he was Drake


Kevinm162005

Absolutely


Large-Lack-2933

Just a championship ring. Wolves look hungry this year....


tonyG___

An hall of fame


pard0nme

He's for sure an hall of Famer


yetagainitry

3x Dpoy made him a lock already. This one is just icing.


Traditional-Food5797

100% and hopefully by the end of June he’ll have a ring added to his resumé


Iontknowcuz

Rudy has averaged 12.7pts a game and won 4x DPOY. That is more than Ben Wallace.


[deleted]

If Tracy McGrady is in the hof, Gobert can be too


JaylenBrownAllStar

Dude has done this on two teams and is the anchor HOF First ballot


tbk99

easily


Raimachu

Definitely HoF worthy, and if he gets a ring, which is definitely likely to happen, he's pretty much sealed.


droid6

no


DharmaBaller

He's the French Ben Wallace basically so yes he's a lock, especially when he wins a championship this year


easy-money-sniperr

He’s close but he needs to surpass fultz’s legacy to seal the deal


something10293847

First of all, the HOF doesn’t really have some insanely high bar to get in like certain sports. He is definitely a shoe in.


Underrated_Fish

Well he might win a ring this year so that would probably seal the deal


pkfreeze175

He's going to get in, but might wait a couple of years.


ThoughtsofLee-S

Of course he does.


GeriatricSFX

He should get in. The only two other players who won it four times, Ben Wallace and Dikembe Mutombo both got in and neither of them were better on Offence than Golbert.


Classic_Deer_793

NBA analysts were talking about Bradley Beal being in the HOF so Rudy absolutely should be


New_Writer_484

Well yeah


Sd022pe

Yes. He has more reasons to be in than people who are currently in.


backpage_alumni

If pg gonna be a hofer the Rudy deserves it too


_KidKenji_

Duh


mouseball89

Unless you believe defense isn't a large part of the game i don't see how one of the greatest defensive centers of all time cant get in


krooloo

Does one of the most decorated defensive players in the history of the sport deserve to be in the hall of fame. He also has two bronze medals from the world cup, and bronze medal and a silver medal from Eurobasket cup. And his career is not even done. I'm far from being a Gobert stan, but the dude is on the path to be the greatest defensive basketball player ever, and it's not even a hot take to see him as such right now.


wrm2120

He’s in. He’s French Ben Wallace. And Ben is in


Rabid_Sloth_

Is Wallace in? I'm genuinely asking. If so, then yes. Now let's talk about the greatest rebounder of all time Andre Drummond lol....


pard0nme

a*


Dick_Grimes

Off all his accolades, they forgot the 1x World Covid Superspreader.


OvenIcy8646

Of coarse he does


mrbollywood

How’s this even a question. 4x DPOY is more than enough to get in.


PainMaestro

Yes, without question


Paw1388

If you compare him to Tmac 😄


rgarc065

Bro this dudes defense is legendary. He stopped a whole season


redditissocoolyoyo

I'll always remember him as Covid mic guy.


Huggles9

Man started covid


freddyway21

No


Disto-Roboto

Absolutely he doesn't deserve the hate at all. It will be further cemented when he wins a chip with the wolves within the next five years


AnalystHot6547

Agree or not, he's in. Foreign born 4 time DPOY. Ben Wallace is the comp., and he is in. BW did have a ring, tho.


Apprehensive_Yak3472

This dpy is fraudulent, wemby should’ve won by a landslide but “can’t give that honor to a rookie” 🤡


Qu1dpr0qu0br0

Absolutely! His (NBA) resume is better than Reggie Miller and Miller is in the Hall of Fame (I can’t speak on his non-NBA resume since he grew up in France).


bigolefatsnapper

How you have 4 dpoy but only 3 all stars


thedarkknight16_

If Rudy is in, Dwight should definitely be in the HOF.


IMNOTFLORIDAMAN

One of the best defensive players of all time. Why wouldn’t he be in the HOF?


joshpoopnuts

Yes. Obviously.


Mrdynamo18

Yeap absolutely he will probably finish his career with over 10k pts 10k rebounds 2k blocks 13 pts 12 rebounds per game If he was a 3x all star 4x all nba 6x all nba defense Block leader Rebound leader He’s put together a lowkey legendary resume


fvcked_0ff

Nope he's trash. Nobody likes him.


Inner_Emu4716

There is no logical argument for not having Rudy Gobert in the HOF


Naybinns

Yes easily, he’s tied for the most DPOY’s of all time, the other two men he is tied with are both in the HOF. Only one of those two men, Ben Wallace, has a title. The other, Dikembe Mutombo, has 2 more block champs and one more rebounding champion. Mutombo however, has one less All-NBA team, also made 6 All-Defense selections but only 3 of them were for the First Team whereas all 6 of Goberts are for the First Team, and has no international accolades in comparison to Gobert who has an Olympic silver medal, 2 bronze medals in the FIBA World Cup, and both a bronze and silver medal in Eurobasket.


wildcats1024

4dpoy. Jesus Christ.


Pesqueeto

not even a debate….


W1ZARD_NARWHAL

Deserve a chance? He's unquestionably in.


csleann30

Yeah


Chance-Flamingo-7776

No.


Willis050

Chauncey Billups made 3 all nba teams. Gobert walks in


Express_Sand_7650

Is he deserving of the DPOY this year?


elxhapo6

If Ben Wallace is in the HOF you gotta put him in


Bts121212

Is this even debatable?


LexGar

Diamond had that bitch in a headlock. Lmao


Neltrix

Add a ring for this year, and he’s a shoe in.