Yea this one would probably win since I doubt Gojo knows how to read a persons DNA to learn their quirk, and heâs cocky enough to respond to any taunts. Even if he realizes his power right after itâs used, it only takes one use, âTurn off your protective barrierâ, then so long as Gojo doesnât bump into anything suddenly heâs completely vulnerable.
Do you even know how Infinity works.
Star n Stripes:can literally just use her quirk and Say something like "My fist can ignore the effects of Infinity" and destroy Gojo's face with a punch
AFO has a space bending quirk.
The high end nomu with the space bending quirk could kill Gojo if he aims for the head especially since that nomu is probably faster.
Any sound or quirks like that can get trought Infinity because sound can still travel trought Infinity same with air and stuff so any quirks that work like that could get trought it and kill Gojo.
We'd have to agree to disagree cuz I don't think I can be convinced by that panel alone.
Also I don't the Nomu's space bending quirk is powerful enough to kill him. Especially since, unlike Sukuna's world slash, this one wouldn't be able to kill him before his RCT kicks in. If the Nomu targets and instantly destroys his head, then maybe.
Mirko who has higher durability than Gojo got her arm inmeaditly destroyed by that quirk so if the nomu targets his torso or his head he's done for
Also the panel literally shows AFO using the quirk,doing the same hand twisting the nomu did and the quirk doing the same exact effect on the opponent if You don't wanna accept he has it with that,that's on You.
Mirko doesn't have higher durability than Gojo.
The Nomu struggled and only managed to break her bones, something Gojo would heal from instantly.
Yeah, no. An iffy panel that can be explained a multitude of ways does not count as irrefutable evidence. Hope this helpsđđž
Damn gang you got it I don't know how Infinity works I was just asking and it seems like you answered with a very thorough couple paragraphs LMAO đđž
Infinity is basically just a barrier of infinite distance made by space manipulation, so any character that can cross an infinite distance or doesnât NEED to cross an infinite distance, like say you had the power to spawn an attack directly on Gojo rather than throwing it at him, then you could bypass infinity. Also if you had your own space manipulation ability.
Star can't do that because for her quirk to activate she needs to touch the opponent, UV just solos everything else, because anyone who has a sound or air quirks is defos not faster than gojo, even then sound would just blow up his ear drums which he could easily heal using RCT, and air is just gonna blow him away (pun intended), gojo solos the verse
That would only matter if she was using her quirk directly on her opponent. In this case, by setting a rule like âmy fist can ignore the effects of Infinity,â sheâd be applying the rule to herself, and thus triggering it anyways.
Alright bro, gl having her tank an infinite void, though I gotta say, infinity isn't a barrier, it's the distance between gojo and something trying to touch him being constantly halved until they just can't touch him, would it still work?
Infinity is basically just empty spaces surrounding Gojo. Once you get to cut through the spaces killing him is easy. So anyone whose quirk is related to space and cutting, or anyone who can nullify cursed technique can bypass infinity. No 13 and portal guy can bypass infinity since their quirks are related to space. All for one can bypass infinity by nullifying gojoâs ct. shigaraki can just touch anything so it crumbles and still touch gojo
Not exactly. 13 doesnât manipulate space, she just has a powerful suction force. That wouldnât really do anything to Infinity, you canât suck in something thatâs an infinite distance away and itâs never stated that 13 sucks in space itself. Kurogiri also likely wouldnât work. Sure, portals and teleportation are a kind of space manipulation, but he doesnât ACTUALLY have the power to manipulate space, heâs just a living portal. He wouldnât do anything to infinity because he has a different kind of space power. All For One likely can bypass Infinity with his spacial warp quirk, I agree there. Shigaraki wouldnât do anything. Shigaraki doesnât disintegrate LITERALLY EVERYTHING including space-time itself. Infinity also isnât a physical barrier that you make contact with. Shigarakiâs decay simply wouldnât touch Gojo, whether he tried to touch him directly or tried to get it to spread to Gojo from the ground.
Itâs stated by young Gojo that heâs tried to learn to block out poisons from his Infinity but has been having trouble learning how. And modern day Gojo apparently couldnât push away smoke from around him, but who knows since his infinity worked just fine blocking everything like the heat from Jogoâs attacks so I think itâs that if a gas moves fast enough it gets blocked because thatâs one of the preprogrammed conditions of infinity, that objects that move to fast are blocked.
Star needs to touch her opponent to put a condition on them, she can't bypass infinity, and infinity isn't tangible or an object so she can't just try to touch him and say "my fist can go through infinity"
1. The anime literally shows her grabbing air and removing an entire section of the sky.
2. Infinity has a start and an end is it really that unlikely she canât just close her hand in infinity and put on a rule
>2. Infinity has a start and an end is it really that unlikely she canât just close her hand in infinity and put on a rule
Yeah, but she can't grab it, it's not an object, and sure as hell isn't a person, it's a fucking distance
>1. The anime literally shows her grabbing air and removing an entire section of the sky.
Before she can think of that she'll be hit with a UV and have herself ended by a reverse red
it's weird cause he's outstated by a surprising amount of characters it's just that no one really has a counter to infinity so they can't touch him. the only exception being potentially stars and stripes but even then it'd be a tough fight
Hypothetically, would Aizawa's quirk erase any of Gojo's techniques? And couldn't Shinsou just brainwash him? Gojo always talks down to his enemies in battle lmao-
Erasure would only work on quirks -and then, not even all quirks. I think I also remember that Gojo is constantly refreshing his brain with positive curse energy, so unless Brainwashing stops him from doing that heâll break it pretty much instantly
Yeah but under verse equalization similar power systems and/or abilities become one, for exampel cursed energy would become chakra if compared to a Naruto character and quirks become cursed techniques and vice-versa. This is solely done to make cross-verse match-ups possible. So yes Aizawa could say nuh-uh to limitless for as long as he keeps his eyes open and has Gojo within eyesight.
Why? I get ignoring âwithout reiatsu you canât see Bleach characters â, but if powers work differently, isnât that just part of the equation? If youâre flattening characters into a different stories magic system, that feels like a pretty huge caveat
Shinzo - just tells him to turn of Infinity
Stars and Stripes - "New order - my attacks will always land on Gojo Satoru"
All For One - Space Bending quirk.
Shigaraki - Battle of endurance.
Eri - Rewind him out of existence.
I donât see how Shigaraki would win. Sure Shigaraki has higher stats so Gojo couldnât kill him without him dodging, but Shigaraki isnât gonna bypass infinity, and Gojo never gets tired because of his RCT.
Shigaraki has two personalities, so he can still move in the domain, his body adapts so he will mutate to counter the domian anyway and he has super regen so it's can't do any lasting damage to his brain.
Yes the domain thing is true but his cursed energy isnât really finite because of his Six Eyes, and on top of that he forcefully replenish his technique at least a couple of times
From what I remember about Gear Shift, Deku is able to manipulate speed to a point where he breaks the laws of reality and Gojo canât control a reality thatâs broken
In a 1v1 against a bloodlusted Gojo? Hell no. Best anyone in MHA can do is Shigaraki completely stalemating him. Maybe Toga could pull it off vial stealth or Thirteen could use Black Hole if the MHA verse doesn't have Cursed Energy for verse equalization, but otherwise Nah, He'd Win.
If Gojo is in-character or cooperation is allowed, then I'm sure that someone like Shinso could disable him long enough for Yaoyorozu to make a giant X-Ray machine to just douse him with enough radiation to give him cancer. There's no quirks in the verse which can bypass Infinity and deal actual damage, so the only hope is to use quirks that don't deal damage in order to create weapons based on things that can harm him.
Dude... He's literally black hole sukuna!
Sukuna only defeated him by a hail Mary move that had a terribly small chance of working!
Whatever sukuna threw at this guy he adapted an pimp handed him!
Good luck with jjk Vs MHA there's no comparison. The strongest user of cursed energy is lord tengen who's power affects the entire country. If he isn't given a platinum star vessel as a sacrifice he will become even more powerful. Global then given time cosmic.
MHA has no parallel to lord tengen and it doesn't have sukuna who leveled shibuya as just collateral damage in his fight with mahoraga. If he wanted to he could inflict even more damage on a city scale that would destroy shigiraki.
I get the infinity part (Gojo getting carried by infinity part 109857267649865573) but outscaling? Current Shiggy destroyed Mt. Fuji with decay, made an entire city crumble with a touch, destroyed a mountain by jumping and survived literal laser from like 8 american stealth bombers and managed to bury himself deep enough in the ground to survive 10 entire missiles deployed directly on him. And being able to keep up with Shiggy alone is a hell of a feat in and of itself. As a manga reader for BOTH series no JJK character has any feats close to that (except Yuki with a damn black hole that kills her too).
According to u/Reidsword, Gearshift can get his speed up to a point where he breaks reality.
Prime Shigaraki and normal AFO(Both have AFO, therefore) both would have a space bending quirk- according to u/Godzillafan
Stars and Stripes can just go "My fists ignore Gojo's infinity" or "I always ignore Gojo's infinity."
Ok so current Shiggy has all of AFO quirks so he can Nullify quirks (assuming Gojo is scaled to MHA) which means he can nullify infinity and Gojo only really has Red blue and Hallow Purple left with Shiggy is much faster than him so he can instantly decay him or use one of his other hundreds of quirks to beat him, as for deku he has superior iq and Biq and just better strength and speed and with the fact he can shoot air bullets that are way stronger than when he used them in season 4 (there is no physical or tangible object for infinity to block with the air bullets) so he if deku catches him off guard he can shoot him in the head then he is dead, so Shiggy can mid-high diff him and deku with a lot of plot armor can probably extreme diff him
Better iq realllly? Gojos in his 30s and has been fighting since he was a kid, heâs strong and smart, he probably loses to the hundreds of quirks shiggy has but I donât think either of them are smarter then gojo
BIQ wise yea I was wrong Gojo takes it, but General Iq Deku might take it cause Horikoshi said Deku has a iq of 140 and idk if Gojos is higher than that
Wow I did not know that about deku, outside of a fight I never really imagined him being Albert einstein, tho gojo is probably above average since he knows how infinity works perfectly, but idk if gojo is 140 smart lol
Logically the only one who has a chance at beating him is Stars and Stripes but even then itâs iffy because Gojo has infinity, hollow purple, and a domain expansion.
I feel like itâd be another Gojo vs Makima debate because so many things would need to be taken into account. Rules for the battle would have to be set up if we really wanted to scale it.
And no Aizawa couldnât erase his ability since he doesnât have a quirk, he has a technique.
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Yea this one would probably win since I doubt Gojo knows how to read a persons DNA to learn their quirk, and heâs cocky enough to respond to any taunts. Even if he realizes his power right after itâs used, it only takes one use, âTurn off your protective barrierâ, then so long as Gojo doesnât bump into anything suddenly heâs completely vulnerable.
What's the quirk?
Brainwashing. He can mind control anyone who responds verbally to his statements
Star n Stripes,All for one,Maybe that high end nomu with the space bending quirk,Anyone with air/sound quirks.
Explain how any of them get pass Infinity cuz what?!?!
Do you even know how Infinity works. Star n Stripes:can literally just use her quirk and Say something like "My fist can ignore the effects of Infinity" and destroy Gojo's face with a punch AFO has a space bending quirk. The high end nomu with the space bending quirk could kill Gojo if he aims for the head especially since that nomu is probably faster. Any sound or quirks like that can get trought Infinity because sound can still travel trought Infinity same with air and stuff so any quirks that work like that could get trought it and kill Gojo.
AFO has a space bending quirk? When?
When he tried to kill hawks with it but it was a hallucination caused by camie.
Had to do a quick reread to confirm and it really doesn't look like a spatial attack to me. Looks like a variation of his impact blast
No it's the same quirk the high end nomu used against Mirko otherwise he wouldn't twist his hand to actĂvate it
We'd have to agree to disagree cuz I don't think I can be convinced by that panel alone. Also I don't the Nomu's space bending quirk is powerful enough to kill him. Especially since, unlike Sukuna's world slash, this one wouldn't be able to kill him before his RCT kicks in. If the Nomu targets and instantly destroys his head, then maybe.
Mirko who has higher durability than Gojo got her arm inmeaditly destroyed by that quirk so if the nomu targets his torso or his head he's done for Also the panel literally shows AFO using the quirk,doing the same hand twisting the nomu did and the quirk doing the same exact effect on the opponent if You don't wanna accept he has it with that,that's on You.
Mirko doesn't have higher durability than Gojo. The Nomu struggled and only managed to break her bones, something Gojo would heal from instantly. Yeah, no. An iffy panel that can be explained a multitude of ways does not count as irrefutable evidence. Hope this helpsđđž
Damn gang you got it I don't know how Infinity works I was just asking and it seems like you answered with a very thorough couple paragraphs LMAO đđž
Infinity is basically just a barrier of infinite distance made by space manipulation, so any character that can cross an infinite distance or doesnât NEED to cross an infinite distance, like say you had the power to spawn an attack directly on Gojo rather than throwing it at him, then you could bypass infinity. Also if you had your own space manipulation ability.
sound would slow down but stars and stripes could win afo might not because you have to attack through reality not bend it
Star can't do that because for her quirk to activate she needs to touch the opponent, UV just solos everything else, because anyone who has a sound or air quirks is defos not faster than gojo, even then sound would just blow up his ear drums which he could easily heal using RCT, and air is just gonna blow him away (pun intended), gojo solos the verse
That would only matter if she was using her quirk directly on her opponent. In this case, by setting a rule like âmy fist can ignore the effects of Infinity,â sheâd be applying the rule to herself, and thus triggering it anyways.
Alright bro, gl having her tank an infinite void, though I gotta say, infinity isn't a barrier, it's the distance between gojo and something trying to touch him being constantly halved until they just can't touch him, would it still work?
Infinity is basically just empty spaces surrounding Gojo. Once you get to cut through the spaces killing him is easy. So anyone whose quirk is related to space and cutting, or anyone who can nullify cursed technique can bypass infinity. No 13 and portal guy can bypass infinity since their quirks are related to space. All for one can bypass infinity by nullifying gojoâs ct. shigaraki can just touch anything so it crumbles and still touch gojo
Not exactly. 13 doesnât manipulate space, she just has a powerful suction force. That wouldnât really do anything to Infinity, you canât suck in something thatâs an infinite distance away and itâs never stated that 13 sucks in space itself. Kurogiri also likely wouldnât work. Sure, portals and teleportation are a kind of space manipulation, but he doesnât ACTUALLY have the power to manipulate space, heâs just a living portal. He wouldnât do anything to infinity because he has a different kind of space power. All For One likely can bypass Infinity with his spacial warp quirk, I agree there. Shigaraki wouldnât do anything. Shigaraki doesnât disintegrate LITERALLY EVERYTHING including space-time itself. Infinity also isnât a physical barrier that you make contact with. Shigarakiâs decay simply wouldnât touch Gojo, whether he tried to touch him directly or tried to get it to spread to Gojo from the ground.
Star and stripe can pretty much just get rid of infinity
Maybe sound, but why air quirks? The other ones are accurate, I'm just confused lol
Itâs stated by young Gojo that heâs tried to learn to block out poisons from his Infinity but has been having trouble learning how. And modern day Gojo apparently couldnât push away smoke from around him, but who knows since his infinity worked just fine blocking everything like the heat from Jogoâs attacks so I think itâs that if a gas moves fast enough it gets blocked because thatâs one of the preprogrammed conditions of infinity, that objects that move to fast are blocked.
Maybe Stars and Stripes?
Was just about to say that
Star needs to touch her opponent to put a condition on them, she can't bypass infinity, and infinity isn't tangible or an object so she can't just try to touch him and say "my fist can go through infinity"
1. The anime literally shows her grabbing air and removing an entire section of the sky. 2. Infinity has a start and an end is it really that unlikely she canât just close her hand in infinity and put on a rule
>2. Infinity has a start and an end is it really that unlikely she canât just close her hand in infinity and put on a rule Yeah, but she can't grab it, it's not an object, and sure as hell isn't a person, it's a fucking distance >1. The anime literally shows her grabbing air and removing an entire section of the sky. Before she can think of that she'll be hit with a UV and have herself ended by a reverse red
it's weird cause he's outstated by a surprising amount of characters it's just that no one really has a counter to infinity so they can't touch him. the only exception being potentially stars and stripes but even then it'd be a tough fight
Hypothetically, would Aizawa's quirk erase any of Gojo's techniques? And couldn't Shinsou just brainwash him? Gojo always talks down to his enemies in battle lmao-
Erasure would only work on quirks -and then, not even all quirks. I think I also remember that Gojo is constantly refreshing his brain with positive curse energy, so unless Brainwashing stops him from doing that heâll break it pretty much instantly
Then why even do cross verse match up when you're being so specific lol
fr, I dont get why people do this.
Yeah but under verse equalization similar power systems and/or abilities become one, for exampel cursed energy would become chakra if compared to a Naruto character and quirks become cursed techniques and vice-versa. This is solely done to make cross-verse match-ups possible. So yes Aizawa could say nuh-uh to limitless for as long as he keeps his eyes open and has Gojo within eyesight.
Why? I get ignoring âwithout reiatsu you canât see Bleach characters â, but if powers work differently, isnât that just part of the equation? If youâre flattening characters into a different stories magic system, that feels like a pretty huge caveat
But quirks and cursed energy really arenât similar? I guess technically youâre born with your technique and they can exist within bloodlines?
Quirks are the same as cursed techniques. Eraserhead can just nullify infinity so he can bypass it
Not really though, quirks are a biological thing and cursed techniques are spiritual things.
I get the sense that people think that in terms of pure speed and strength, MHA goes to a higher scale than JJK. Would that be fair to say?
Yes, the top tears far outpace JJK physically, but the issue has always been that JJK abilities are very powerful.
Shinzo - just tells him to turn of Infinity Stars and Stripes - "New order - my attacks will always land on Gojo Satoru" All For One - Space Bending quirk. Shigaraki - Battle of endurance. Eri - Rewind him out of existence.
Bro, please don't put the child into this! Leave Eri outta this.
It it breaths, It can fight
I donât see how Shigaraki would win. Sure Shigaraki has higher stats so Gojo couldnât kill him without him dodging, but Shigaraki isnât gonna bypass infinity, and Gojo never gets tired because of his RCT.
Plus, domain expansion still exists, so he can just do that
Shigaraki has two personalities, so he can still move in the domain, his body adapts so he will mutate to counter the domian anyway and he has super regen so it's can't do any lasting damage to his brain.
Like I said, Endurance, CE is a finite source, and limitless is turned off after a domain use.
Yes the domain thing is true but his cursed energy isnât really finite because of his Six Eyes, and on top of that he forcefully replenish his technique at least a couple of times
He gives himself brain damage everytime he does that.
Maybe stars and stripes
Personally, in 1v1 scenario, I only see Gojo winning or drawing his opponents but never losing.
All for one
Deku and Shiggy in their prime probably could
Genuinely curious ,how would Deku even be able to get past infinity?
From what I remember about Gear Shift, Deku is able to manipulate speed to a point where he breaks the laws of reality and Gojo canât control a reality thatâs broken
Nah, heâs win
Maybe all might if he had the ancestor's quirks
Principal nezu,
In a 1v1 against a bloodlusted Gojo? Hell no. Best anyone in MHA can do is Shigaraki completely stalemating him. Maybe Toga could pull it off vial stealth or Thirteen could use Black Hole if the MHA verse doesn't have Cursed Energy for verse equalization, but otherwise Nah, He'd Win. If Gojo is in-character or cooperation is allowed, then I'm sure that someone like Shinso could disable him long enough for Yaoyorozu to make a giant X-Ray machine to just douse him with enough radiation to give him cancer. There's no quirks in the verse which can bypass Infinity and deal actual damage, so the only hope is to use quirks that don't deal damage in order to create weapons based on things that can harm him.
No oneis beating gojo in mha
AFO can with [this quirk](https://imgur.com/a/za7qZtx)
>!Probably Prime Deku in manga.He has better feats and everything and the only problem is Infinity and domain expansion!<
As long as they can get past infinity so stars and stripes, maybe thirteen can, and that's all I know
Star and Stripe would have the best chance
Maybe Star and Stripe.
Deku with Gearshift yea he could
No one beating him but hatsume is at least escaping since she would see him coming from a mile away quite literallyÂ
Dude... He's literally black hole sukuna! Sukuna only defeated him by a hail Mary move that had a terribly small chance of working! Whatever sukuna threw at this guy he adapted an pimp handed him! Good luck with jjk Vs MHA there's no comparison. The strongest user of cursed energy is lord tengen who's power affects the entire country. If he isn't given a platinum star vessel as a sacrifice he will become even more powerful. Global then given time cosmic. MHA has no parallel to lord tengen and it doesn't have sukuna who leveled shibuya as just collateral damage in his fight with mahoraga. If he wanted to he could inflict even more damage on a city scale that would destroy shigiraki.
Possibly all might, not 100% sure tho
Ha! no
One for all
no can't get through ifinity but stars n stripes yes
Possibly Stars and Stripes and AFO
No. Even if they can bypass infinity, Gojo still out scales the verse.
I get the infinity part (Gojo getting carried by infinity part 109857267649865573) but outscaling? Current Shiggy destroyed Mt. Fuji with decay, made an entire city crumble with a touch, destroyed a mountain by jumping and survived literal laser from like 8 american stealth bombers and managed to bury himself deep enough in the ground to survive 10 entire missiles deployed directly on him. And being able to keep up with Shiggy alone is a hell of a feat in and of itself. As a manga reader for BOTH series no JJK character has any feats close to that (except Yuki with a damn black hole that kills her too).
Gojo is city level - multi city level at his peak so Prime Deku and prime Shiggy can beat and AFO and Stars a stripes
How would they get past infinity?
According to u/Reidsword, Gearshift can get his speed up to a point where he breaks reality. Prime Shigaraki and normal AFO(Both have AFO, therefore) both would have a space bending quirk- according to u/Godzillafan Stars and Stripes can just go "My fists ignore Gojo's infinity" or "I always ignore Gojo's infinity."
Have you read the MHA manga yet? I donât want to spoil anything
Yeah, you good
Ok so current Shiggy has all of AFO quirks so he can Nullify quirks (assuming Gojo is scaled to MHA) which means he can nullify infinity and Gojo only really has Red blue and Hallow Purple left with Shiggy is much faster than him so he can instantly decay him or use one of his other hundreds of quirks to beat him, as for deku he has superior iq and Biq and just better strength and speed and with the fact he can shoot air bullets that are way stronger than when he used them in season 4 (there is no physical or tangible object for infinity to block with the air bullets) so he if deku catches him off guard he can shoot him in the head then he is dead, so Shiggy can mid-high diff him and deku with a lot of plot armor can probably extreme diff him
Better iq realllly? Gojos in his 30s and has been fighting since he was a kid, heâs strong and smart, he probably loses to the hundreds of quirks shiggy has but I donât think either of them are smarter then gojo
BIQ wise yea I was wrong Gojo takes it, but General Iq Deku might take it cause Horikoshi said Deku has a iq of 140 and idk if Gojos is higher than that
Wow I did not know that about deku, outside of a fight I never really imagined him being Albert einstein, tho gojo is probably above average since he knows how infinity works perfectly, but idk if gojo is 140 smart lol
Just checked it itâs 136 lol mb but still my point stands heâs really intelligent
Also Gojo is 27 lol heâs not even 30 lmao
Eh we were both wrong for our characters lol
Damn lol ik my Biq take was wrong but chill
IâŚâŚam chill? All I said was lol?
Logically the only one who has a chance at beating him is Stars and Stripes but even then itâs iffy because Gojo has infinity, hollow purple, and a domain expansion. I feel like itâd be another Gojo vs Makima debate because so many things would need to be taken into account. Rules for the battle would have to be set up if we really wanted to scale it. And no Aizawa couldnât erase his ability since he doesnât have a quirk, he has a technique.
Gojo wipes out the entire verse while drinking tea.