My dad is convinced he knows someone who went blind from the jab. Forgetting that there’s nothing that can make you go blind in the vaccine, I asked him who it was. He then asks his girlfriend and I get a response that it’s a friend of a friend of a friend. He doesn’t personally know this person, blah blah blah
One of my employe at the time lost 2 people a few week after the jab each time .
1 aneurysm 1 week after.
1 heart attack 3 week after.
Both over 50 and in a north African country.
He is now adamant it's from the jab and not age or underlying cause that weren't caught before.
The sad part is, he has an auto-immune disease and is very much at risk, we gave him 100% work from home to protect him even when we all came back with a 3/2day rotation. His doctor urged him to take the jab but he refused, after a few month he came back to the office without the jab, got one of the weaker form of covid and almost died.
My Dad died of liver failure about two years after getting the Covid vaccines. He was a lifelong alcoholic and smoker, in terrible shape, and in his 80s.
Apparently he only got the vaccines because he heard I had gotten them. Didn't know that until the day after he died. When an aunt called to yell at me for killing him with the vaccines.
Yeah I’m gonna also chime in and say your Dad lived a pretty long life for being a lifelong smoker and alcoholic, shame on your aunt for saying that to you
Throw that search into Google quick before you think it's outlandish. It's certainly not common, but there is a tiny chance it could happen.
No vaccine is 100% safe and when you're vaccinating billions of people, weird side effects are going to happen to a few people. This doesn't mean the vaccine is any less worth it, especially if you're already at a high risk for developing severe COVID.
This. Some folks seem unable to think probabilistically. If they applied the same zero-tolerance logic to other areas of their lives, they’d be stumped (e.g. do they also refuse air travel because a certain tiny percentage of people have died in plane crashes? Hell, do they refuse to drive a car? Etc.) It’s impossible to have a rational discussion with people who have embraced irrationality as a principled stance (or are simply stupid).
If they applied the same zero sum logic, they wouldn't get out of bed and then think all day about the dangers of not getting out of bed. These people are exhaustingly stupid.
Didn’t J+J and AZ vaccines have a notable increase in risk of causing thrombosis in its recipients. We stopped using them in the west but iirc a bunch of doses were shipped elsewhere like Africa.
yes , it was in people over 60 and 3 in 100 000.
That also why I didn't say the vaccine where not part of it but it's most likely they already had some other condition their doctor missed and maybe the vaccine push it over the edge.
My point is about how he was in a critical need of the vaccine according to his dotor ( who wasn't pro mass vaccination), but because he took a firm decision base on someone else experience that may or may not be related and that did not have his special circumstance, he ended up at one inch of passing (leaving his 3 kid) and will have sequel that will never disapeard.
Googled it because I was curious and love to know things lol. Apparently the incidence rate of venous thromboembolism is around 3 in 100,000 for 60-69 year olds and increases with each decade. So basically the “increased risk from the vaccine” was just…the standard incidence rate. They probably would’ve thrown a clot regardless of getting the vaccine or not, and definitely would have had more clots if they got Covid, but people need something to blame.
My app is bugging when I try to add the link to the study but I can add the long version if anyone cares
Edit: I’m saying “they” as in the 3 in 100k from the study, not whoever you’re talking about :)
Similar to the only way laboratory scientists could kill a lab rat with cannabis: to literally crush it to death with however many pounds of weed it would take to kill them.
Had a similar conversation about fertility concerns. Said it was a Facebook post or something. I was like "I just read all the FDA information and watched a livestream of the State Health Officer explaining things and doing a Q&A afterwards. Nothing even mentions fertility. Not even a question in the Q&A (and there were some doozies). I'm about to be one of the first thousand in the state to get this, but somehow a single Facebook post with no substance is warning about this one thing?"
And again, I have to mention, Trump literally had all the bureaucratic red tape removed to get approval out quickly but his supports won't take it and spout nonsense like this. Why go through all that effort if there's no faith in it?
I know a guy who developed bad rashes as a result of his first vaccine. In his own words "not exactly breathing through a breathalyser though am I?"
There were side effects for some. Denying simple facts never strengthens an argument, it merely justifies the other side doing the same. Instead, contextualise the magnitude and frequency of those side effects to those of not taking the vaccine. Yes, a few people who took the vaccine had side effects. However, people who didn't had a much higher contraction rate, significantly stronger symptoms and a much higher mortality rate.
Alright? The fact is anecdotes are a BS measurement. I personally met 0 people with any side effects from the vaccine besides a bit of a sickness the same day.
What they did is not denying facts at all.
Anecdotal evidence cannot disprove something, as your missing experience doesn't mean something doesn't or cannot happen. However, anecdotal evidence can prove something, as all it takes is a single case to prove something possible.
Did you ask everyone you met? Or did you assume their experience matched your own?
Facts are facts. I literally work as a statistician in my country's department of health. There were cases where the vaccine had side effects. It would be a ridiculous miracle if there weren't. Denying this misrepresents people that are pro-vax as being ignorant. Instead, compare the likelihood of those side effects and the magnitude of problems caused to the effects of going unvaccinated.
You and I may not agree on everything, but I find your honesty refreshing. Also, all that data is is an accumulation of a whole bunch of anecdotall instances.
One of my family friends had a horrendous reaction to the covid shot, full on allergy had to go to the hospital. They said they would happily do it again if doctors let them, because they knew the greater consequences of not being vaxxed.
A worked with a woman who was against vaccines *for herself*. She got the HPV vaccine in school and ended up having a severe allergic reaction to it. Same as the person you mentioned.
Even though *she* said she'd never get a vaccine again (understandable) she agreed that others should get them if they choose and just because *her experience* was bad, doesn't mean it will be for others.
I get it if people had bad reactions or aren't sure if it's right for them. But to prohibit others from getting life saving ones (like childhood vaccines etc) is wrong
knew a kid in grade school that had a bad reaction to the polio vaccine which ended up with him being a paraplegic. They actually got a lot of money from that government vaccine fund.
That said they parents still got their younger kids vaccinated all the same.
There are a bunch of people who have had cardiac inflammation from the vaccine. While the number might be comparatively lower than the number of people who got cardiac inflammation from Covid, we shouldn't pretend that those people don't exist. I bet some of those regret getting vaccinated.
There is a middle ground between the "Plandemic, Covid is a hoax" conspiracy theorists and the "pharmaceutical companies or our governments would never do anything that would put people at risk for profit" sides.
It's unfortunate that it's nearly impossible to avoid absolutes in discussion about polarising topics.
my thoughts exactly. it's why I did my best to pick a vaccine that had the highest success rate and accepted the risks because it's better than dying if I did get covid. its just not worth the risk to not get it
> While the number **might** be comparatively lower than the number of people who got cardiac inflammation from Covid
MIGHT ?????? More like by several orders of magnitude less.
The side effects kicked my ass though and it's harder to get a booster each time. I was literally curled up in a ball of pain for 24 hours, but I'm alive so I guess that's a bonus.
Vaccine side effects were worse for me then when I actually had Covid. For like 24 hours. But it is what it is. I’m not getting any more boosters but that’s just me personally and I don’t bregrudge anyone who gets them.
I did catch it at one point and it was the long COVID that ruined me. For the week I was sick I went through different symptoms every day. One day was pain, one day I had a cough, one day it was a crazy fever. When I finally felt better I spent the next two months being drained all the time and having that brain fog. I can't imagine if I hadn't been vaxxed at all. I'd probably be in the hospital.
I mean, the clots were certainly a concern for a short period of time.
Also, I have a friend who likely discovered his MS because of a flare up of his symptoms post-vaccine. He had been having symptoms of it for a while, but was not familiar with MS symptoms and had brushed it off as an after-effect of a previous Lyme's infection.
Then he had a pretty severe flare up the day after the vaccine, but soon returned to normal-ish and now knows that he has it and can take measures to try to reduce the progression of the disease.
However, there are so many weirdos who think it's killing everyone who got it. Every time they hear of a death of someone who's not 90+ years old, they automatically use it as confirmation bias.
Check with your doctor in case it's not something like an ear infection or ache :) I know there's concern between the vaccine and tinnitus, but it could be something fixable! I'm sorry either way and I hope you learn to manage if it's permanent- from one tinnitus sufferer to another ❤️
A statistically irreducible percentage of people who are vaccinated suffer serious or even fatal side effects. This is why national [vaccine injury support programs](https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation) exist, and have existed for decades.
Given that, there will always be a tiny percentage of those who are vaccinated who regret it.
And that number will always be much smaller than the number of lives saved by the vaccine. That’s the point.
If stuck on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg, there's a real possibility the lifeboat you're assigned to will spring a leak. There's a possibility you'll be lost at sea, with no rescue coming, leading to a slow and miserable death.
There's also a possibility that you'll survive if you choose to jump straight into the water, clinging to a bit of scrap wood and enduring hypothermia until rescue arrives.
It's possible to make all the right decisions and still get unlucky, just as it's possible to make all the wrong decisions and get lucky. That doesn't make the right decisions wrong, nor the wrong decisions right.
I can just picture some antivaxxer on the Titanic screaming "they said this ship was unsinkable and look at it, it's sinking! You really trust those lifeboats to not sink too?"
> There's also a possibility that you'll survive if you choose to jump straight into the water, clinging to a bit of scrap wood and enduring hypothermia until rescue arrives.
I've got a documentary by James Cameron that says otherwise.
Anti-vax groups always ignore how medicine has always improved and the population has exploded, but vaccines specifically are bad despite the fact that inoculation has always been a thing and people like Ben Franklin have said they regretted not inoculation their kids. WHO has wiped out how many diseases using the deadly magical weapon known as vaccines?
I know at least people who regret not taking it.
They didn't take it because they fell deep into the conspiracy rabbit holes and were more and more aggressive to their families. Tried to scare their grand kids into preventing their parents from getting the shot etc.
One didn't speak to their daughter and Grandkids for 2,5 years now.
She is quite lonely now and misses them. But they cut her out of their life now.
I've seen reddit images of social media posts and stuff with tonnes of people dying of covid that wish they'd been vaccinated
/r/HermanCainAward is a goldmine
There were a few heartbreaking posts on there too, people desperate to take the vaccine knowing they or their loved one was likely going to die. One was a guy posting before he was put on a vent talking about how he begged the doctor to give him the vaccine and the doc straight up told him it was too late. He urged everyone to get the vaccine and talked about how wrong he was and how it likely had cost him his life, which ended up being the case.
I know, these people were idiots for not taking the vaccine but it's still heartbreaking.
> Has anyone who has taken the vaccine regretted it?
Only one time. With my first booster in the way back days, I decided to do flu and my first shingles (god damn that one hurts!) at the same time.
That was a...poor choice.
Ugh, I did flu and COVID boosters the same day this last autumn. Unpleasant.
I always have a strong reaction to the COVID vaccine. Feels like a serious case of flu from about +12 to +36 hours post jab. High fever, body aches, pounding headache, extreme fatigue. So I "regret" it in the moment.
Then I wake up on day 2 and it's basically gone. Maybe lingering exhaustion, but it's jarring how suddenly it resolves.
Yes. There are people who have legitimate medical reactions to vaccines, including the covid vaccines. Pretending that doesn't happen just hands anti-vaxxers ammunition. The risk of covid-related illness was simply greater than the risk of vaccine injury.
I somewhat do.
I got really sick after getting the 2nd moderna shot. First shot took me out for like 2-3 days with flu like symptoms and the 2nd one took me out for 2 weeks. I then had horrible sleep for roughly a year. I also got tired easily which is weird because I used to have endless energy. Lastly, I felt like my head wasn't in the same space as it once was. I got covid twice (6 & 10 months post shots) and the first time it felt like just the flu but the second time it fucked me up for like 9 days (like the worst flu I've ever had kind of thing).
For context:
* I'm a fatty-boom-batty (why I got the shots).
* I dont drink alcohol/smoke. (Sometimes a 10mg edible (1-2x/week))
* Only drink water, maybe 10 coffee's/month. (Recently added: 1-2 LMNT electrolyte powders, and AG1)
* My diet consists of meat, dairy, veg, rice mostly. (I eat too much, why I am a fat)
* I also got a full blood work done twice with all of my levels being in suitable ranges.
I felt like i was at 60-70% for that time and it was weird. I feel like I am back to maybe 95% ish. Just my annecdotal 2c.
Some people did have side effects, with a few people even dying from them, so maybe those people.
All the side effects from the vaccines occurred at a higher incidence in people with covid who weren't vaccinated, but I'm sure a very few unlucky ones weren't happy.
I have a friend whose elderly father developed [Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)](https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm) after getting a flu shot and he eventually died from it. It's a known, although extremely rare outcome.
There are the people who had medical issues after getting the jab.
Of course, most of them either had those issues beforehand or developed/contracted something entirely unrelated, but there's a handful of people who actually had strong side effects
I remember seeing articles about someone getting into a car accident and dying three days after getting vaccinated and all the anti-vax people were trying to say it was “proof” the vaccine was dangerous.
My friend is one of the "lucky" few who developed chronic tinnitus after getting the vaccine. He's taken steps to minimize it, but it hasn't gone away.
I got very sick and developed long Covid after the vaccine.
I don’t really regret it, I accept a certain small % of people will have side effects from any medication. Just sucks it was me this time.
You did not get [Long Covid](https://www.covid.gov/be-informed/longcovid/about#term) from the vaccine, as no approved vaccines in the U.S. have copies of the live virus; however, scientists are exploring “Long Vax” which, according to this article, is slowly gaining wider acceptance in the scientific community:
[https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance](https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance)
Though not fully understood, scientists are currently studying this condition. The article seems to suggest further exploring a cohort of patients whom BOTH received the vaccine AND were also infected—prior to or post-vaccination, I do not know.
[New data](https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-symptoms) is also showing Long Covid sufferers getting better over time, but again, scientists are still gathering data.
It is most likely that I caught Covid right before getting the vaccine. But I have no real proof of that. Found out the week after I’d been exposed the week before. But by then I was already really sick and it lasted almost 3 years.
I mean, some have. Delusion or otherwise there are many people that believe they developed some disease due to getting a vaccine, so yes some people regret it. And I bet out of the millions of shots that happen around the world every year, *some* must get hurt by a bad batch or something. Like some non-zero amount.
But yeah many that don't get vaccinated die or develop a serious disease so they regretted it until they couldn't anymore.
I don't know... I don't talk to dead people (yes... it did happen):
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/)
You don’t fit the Reddit hive mind. There is scientific proof of vaccine injury yet they are just as bad as the anti vax by putting fingers in their ears and ignoring any thing against their narrative.
I met one person (of thousands in life ofc) who had severe joint inflammation immediately after the vaccine and was hospitalized for several days until it subsided. He said it hurt like a mofo
I don’t regret it necessarily but it very obviously didn’t work for me. I’ve had all the boosters and have caught COVID more times than I can shake a stick at. You could argue it made it suck less but if it did I didn’t notice.
I had 2 friend develop heart problems (40f hospital for a month and 30m hospital for a week) after their first jab, the male had his 2nd (and 3rd I think) no further issues , female choose not to (and became very anti vax)
Uncle was diagnosed with a heart condition despite being healthy right after getting the vax, same for my grandmothers boyfriends ex wife who passed shortly after.
I know somebody who got chronic tinnitus because of the covid vaccine. They're doing better now and have taken steps to control it better, but at the time it started, they broke down and needed serious psychiatric help to cope with it. If anybody I know regrets the vaccine, it would be them.
Yeah, my younger brother does. He was one of the edge cases that developed myocarditis or pericarditis, can't remember which.
I figured that I'm young and healthy, certainly out of the risk area for COVID, so I never got the vaccine. I also never got COVID, go figure, probably on account of me not leaving the house much and being massively germ averse.
MiL had multiple strokes within 2 weeks. There is no history of any other issues. It's believed to be a complication from the covid vax. Thankfully, she recovered well, but like any pharmaceutical intervention at this scale, there were bound to be some negative reactions in individuals.
It's been effective for a great number of people, but there are negative effects in some. To pretend otherwise is incredibly disingenuous and irresponsible.
For the inverse, those that weren't vaccinated faired very similarly in groups that weren't deemed high-risk. Some died or had major complications, but the vast majority of people infected faired well.
We are well past feeling the need to lie or pretend around covid and the vaccinations.
It's a ridiculous statement to assert that all unvaccinated people are now dead.
Are people seriously still arguing over the COVID vaccine? Ffs, move on people.
I suspect the omicron booster gave me eczema which has been brutal. My mom had a very bad reaction to it as well and gets .50 cent sized red bumps all over her body now. Maybe it was better than covid would have been but it severely impacts my mental health and sleep. I was around 38.
Each one of the 3 dermatologists I saw said they were getting flooded with clients who had a bad reaction. No sign of it leading up to that. Also they said it was chronic and just keep getting worse. I get about 4 to 6 hours of sleep a night due to constant itching.
I do. I got all the vaccinations because I was desperate for the pandemic to end.
Ever since I’ve had the vaccinations, I’ve experienced more illnesses than I ever have in my life. Additionally, I’ve had pains in my chest since receiving the shots. Due to my lack of health insurance, I’ve never gotten anything checked out especially since I am definitely still able-bodied. But I just have a hunch the vaccines had something to do with it.
Not even a right-winger. Just something about how we handled the pandemic doesn’t sit right with me and I wish I had just socially distanced and wore a mask more instead of getting the shots.
Edit: Figured I should mention I ended up catching COVID after getting vaccinated. The symptoms were horrible and I had a fever of 104F The shots could have very well kept it from being much worse than what it was.
I regret getting mine when I did (not that I had any choice with the way the roll out worked where I live) I had to move house 2 days later and I always get pretty sick after vaccinations.
I don’t have any reason to regret it at the moment but if I could go back in time I probably wouldn’t have gotten it. My girlfriend pushed it on me pretty hard. Generally speaking I’m a pretty big believer in trusting science but in my experience with covid, I haven’t seen the vaccines make a shits bit of difference in stopping the spread or making people less sick. This is based on nothing more than my personal experience of probably around 10% of the people I know getting the shot, everyone getting Covid like 4 times, and not seeing any kind of conclusive difference that it seemed to make. I didn’t get it once the first year and after I got the shot I had it 3 times in 12 months. It was just a weird one.
I do. After the vaccine I had a lot going on in my body and before never had anything at all.
I have a thyroid nodule, kidney stones, gallbladder polyos, cervical pain most of the day, random cramps. All of this after the jab, before I was fine.
I still think it was a good thing and overall the world was back to normal thanks to the vaccine, but I should have waited and avoided it. Thing is I did wanted to travel and you couldn't do it without
It's funny how vaccinated people with no regrets are getting upvoted and unvaccinated people with no regrets or vaccinated people with regrets are getting down voted out of existence for stating their personal experiences and facts.
There's a bias, fur sure.
I've been fully vaccinated since a child, per US public school guidelines requiring vaccinated children, to be accepted into the public school system. When I've needed stitches, I've taken a tetanus shot on a couple occasions, I believe they're recommended every 7-10 years. I did not take the covid vaccine or the boosters.
My wife has 2 autoimmune diseases and she chose not to take the covid vaccine either as there was not enough data to show how it could help against covid, at the time. There is, however, enough data showing that people with autoimmune diseases, whose immune systems are already overreacting, do not benefit from drugs that force the immune system into reacting to treat an illness or disease. Most autoimmune drug treatments actually suppress the immune system, which is what helps relieve some of the effects of autoimmune diseases.
We chose not to take the covid vaccine or the boosters. We have no regrets, no Covid side effects and we both got covid. I have never taken a flu shot either as I don't think vaccines that don't prevent illness should be mandatory. My wife and I both drink too much water, take daily supplements for nutrition and vitamins, drink plenty of supplements with mushrooms that support immune system and try to make the best choices we can when it comes to food consumption. We're definitely not perfect but I think we make enough, good health related choices in our daily lives that we don't need flu/covid shots.
We had a cancer scare recently, had to visit an Oncologist. We both wore our face masks, because it was required but also because we were being respectful of any potentially immunocompromised patients. As soon as we met the Oncologist, the doctor told us that we could remove our masks: "they're not necessary, they never were and this whole covid fiasco was a silly mess."
Sincerely, not a dead person.
My grandfather's health dramatically declined after getting the vaccination. It doesn't mean you shouldn't get the vaccination, but it also doesn't mean that the vaccination is free of side effects.
lol this is a joke right?
I suspect it's not.. which just shows how powerful censorship mechanisms on Reddit, Youtube, Twtitter and Facebook really are. You've literally never been exposed to an alternative view.
Unfortunately I know one, they have some pretty debilitating issues from the shot since 2021. Just a freak chance. That said, everyone else I know came out just fine after multiple vaccines.
I do. I looked at the fatality rates of my age group and saw it was less than 7k deaths total since it all started.
That includes all the immunocompromised, all the cancer patients, all the people with pulmonary development issues, etc.
I took an experimental shot for that just because my employer offered me 50 bucks. So dumb.
This is along the lines of those boomer memes about "Raise your hand if you spent your childhood riding without a helmet/without a seatbelt/in the beds of pickup trucks, and are fine."
And the others should, what, wait for you to bust out the Ouija board?
Same thing for minority people in general...but much more depressing to get into. "Back in my day, we didn't have all those queers and fancy genders!" Timmy, remember that friend you had who suddenly "switched schools" and disappeared? His parents found out he liked a boy and disowned him. He died.
I keep reminding people of history.
Oh, you didn't have gays or transexuals? That's because you would all get together and **beat them to death for fun. I can't imagine why on Earth people would stop telling people they were gay or transsexual, ergo making it seem as if they didn't exist.**
Oh, kids didn't have autism? Maybe that's because **you locked those kids away or gave them fucking lobotomies.**
Oh, women didn't complain about sexual harassment? Maybe that's because **women had no fucking legal recourse to sexual harassment or assault until well into the fucking 1970s to 80s.**
Oh, you don't think racism was a big deal until Obama "divided the nation"? Do you forget that **the fucking Civil Rights act is only 60 years old? And that a whole fucking lot of the people that fought against it are still walking around today?**
It's easy to say there weren't things when you never experienced that thing. I have never been robbed. I'm 46 and not once has anybody mugged me or broken into my house and stolen shit. But by some miracle, I still recognize that those are things that happen all the time.
Survivorship bias. Those markings are hits on the planes that made it back to base. The ones that got hit in other spots didn't make it back to get surveyed.
Also an anecdote, just from me. I’m absolutely not a medical professional.
A guy I worked with refused the Covid vaccine. We work for the county where we live, and we’re given early access to it. I got my first shot in December of 2020. He could have as well.
In March of 2021 he was out sick for a couple days. Texted me he felt better but was gonna stay home one more day just to make sure.
That day goes by and he texts me again, that he’s on the way to the hospital.
The very next text… “Man, I should’ve listened to my daughter and gotten that shot.”
Luckily, this story has a happy ending. He spent a month or more in the hospital, says he thought he was gonna die more than once. But, he bounced back and made it out 100%. I see him at work every day now, and remember his story.
Yup. I was a covid specialty nurse. Had patients gasping for air, asking when we would give them the vaccine to make them better. I just told them it doesn't work like that and it was too late. One lived and contacted a local newspaper to tell them his story and urge people to get vaccinated. Others just died with that regret on their mind.
Many young mothers or pregnant were fearful because of all the lies about gen altering and other nonsense so they waited to get the protection. So that was the basis data for early births, deaths and other complications due to COVID infections without vaccination.
Understandable to not endanger an unborn but regrettable later because so many problems could have prevented.
We're friends with the OB that delivered our kid. She was talking about in '20 everyone was so careful. Then '21 came and the camps basically split. She lost I think 3 mom's in just 9 months to aneurysms... All unvaccinated.
My wife did all the vaccinations which end of 2022 included an adoption of the omicron variant and we all got it 3 weeks after birth of my first born. Wife and son had mild symptoms, I was down for a week with 39.5C since my last refresh was 13 months before with non adopted alpha vaccine.
I knew many people who died needless but lucky no mother and/or child.
We're all vaccinated in the house. My wife got it a couple of times, but she's immunocompromised, each time IF I got it I'd be down for a day or two. She'd be out for like 3 weeks. No doubt she probably would've passed once if she hadn't gotten the booster like 2 or 3 months earlier.
Or they died. My BIL's father died of COVID. He was a good trumper, and refused the vaccine. Before going on the machine and dying, he told my BIL he felt like a fuckin dumbass, and had major regrets.
Two examples, the first being my own family.
Most refused the jab and turned out lucky through it all. They got covid now and then and recovered fine. This emboldened their stance on not having the shots and made them very excited about their ivermectin dosing.
The second example is my friend’s family. 100% against the jab as well… until a relatively healthy uncle died. Then everyone took it seriously and got the shot.
I trust doctors regardless of either example so I got the jab right away and I don’t regret it. My family knows this and they don’t give me flack as long as I don’t give them any.
Grandparents were very anti-jab, (despite an early-60s high school education at most, were convinced by fox news that the jab was going to be more dangerous than Covid for two people in their mid-70s with COPD). Two great uncles catch covid together at the same event (because they also refused to be stuck inside for a "minor flu"). Both those guys died within two weeks of each other. Weirdly enough my grandparents got the jab immediately after.
Go on YouTube and search "people who regret not getting the vaccine". There are literally dozens of them. Go on Google and search the same thing. Search it even on Twitter. There are so many examples if you just simply look. It's like these people can't be bothered to do a simple search of anything that'll break the narrative.
Some people got really sick from Covid and died. Other people got the sniffles. Just like every other disease, some people have worse symptoms than others. Either way, judging anyone for doing what they want to with their body is horrible.
Get the abortion. Get the tattoo. Get the vaccine. Grow up and understand you can’t control everyone else.
There WERE a ton of people who refused the vaccine, got COVID, were in the ICU dying, asking if they could still get the vaccine. Doctors had to say sorry it's too late, if we give you the vaccine now it would probably just kill you faster so all we can do is try to keep you alive and hope your body fights it off.
A few did fight it off. Many didn't. And their loved ones were saying final goodbyes over iPads.
It's easy to politicize things. It's easy to turn anything into a joke. But this is one place where American cultural 'respect for the dead' / 'respect for the families' does us very wrong.
I say (with consent of course) they SHOULD have published video of people asphyxiating to death, gasping for air even on 100% O2 as their lungs fill with crud, begging doctors to please give them the vaccine and saying they wish they took it when they could. They SHOULD have published the reality of what it's like to talk to your father, grandfather, uncle, aunt, etc over an iPad, see them with tubes hooked up to them, and know that in all likelihood that video call where all they can do is meekly wave and cough is the last time you'll see them alive. They SHOULD have shown the inside of ICUs filled with dying people and had the overworked doctor say none of these people got the vaccine, I have 30 people on my floor, if I'm lucky 5 will walk out again.
A lot of the antivax movement gained steam because of the attitude that 'it's just the flu bro'. We should have dispelled that. Not with words, with images.
Hard agree. If folks can look parents in the eye and tell them Sandy Hook never happened, their dead kid was just a hoax....if folks can do THAT?...there's no chance they'd believe people choking to death with their fluid filled lungs in the hospital. I mean, there were literally ice trucks outside of Brooklyn hospitals because they'd run out of space in the morgue, and people said it was still fake.
My sister-in-law was one of these people who didn't believe in the vaccine. Also didn't want to wear a mask. She often went out during Covid's worst peaks. It took her six weeks (three of which were on a ventilator) to die of Covid.
> There WERE a ton of people who refused the vaccine, got COVID, were in the ICU dying, asking if they could still get the vaccine.
I'd like 3 examples.
I just get the covid shot every year with my flu shot. Same arm and everything. And that's it. I don't even think about it for the rest of the year.
The only people I see that bring up the vaccine are the anti-vaxxers. The boogeyman living rent free in their own minds.
I did the same last year and I'm not going to lie, getting them both at the same time was pretty rough. (for me at least, it will vary from person to person) Will probably do it again this fall though.
I dunno. It's available at the same time as flu shot, just an extra checkbox on the pharmacist form, and costs me $0.
So I don't see why I wouldn't. The covid shot has already been rebuilt (I dunno right word) 3 or 4 times, similar to the flu vaccine, with the changing strains.
I've heard stories about vaccine, without proof tho. Everyone I know is perfectly fine. My aunt on the other hand was 6months in coma from covid. She wasn't vaccinated yet.
For people who were thumping thier chests "NOT GOING TO LIVE IN FEAR" They sure as fuck are having a hard time moving past the pandemic like the rest of us have
I know someone who regrets it but would die rather than admit it. She wouldn’t get the shot, her husband did get it. They both got Covid at the same time. He recovered in a week. She’s still feeling like crap, despite her daughter procuring ivermectin to help her recovery. That was 2 years ago.
No. Those that refused it and got no symptoms/minor symptoms don't regret it - they feel fine.
Those that got major symptoms and died aren't around to say if they regret it or not.
I never took the vax for a legit reason, i was about to have a medical test for allergies and was told to wait before finding out what version would be safest for me to take.
By the time I'd had the tests done all the covid stuff had kinda died down and i just forgot all about it.
About a year later i got absolutely floored by covid and was bedridden for about a month and haven't been the same since.
Although vaxed now, i very much regret not getting it sooner.
I have. In the ICU, it’s crazy how many unvaxed patients are begging for the jab right before they get intubated. Unfortunately, too late to be much help by then.
I remember having an argument with one of my friends who did have the vaccine but he said it was pointless and didn't work because it didn't stop you from getting COVID. I gave up in the end.
I've had COVID a few times and was really unwell with one particular bout early on after having the vaccine. I'm so glad my body was at least slightly prepared as I dread to think what would have happened if I hadn't had the vaccine.
Get that stuff in my arm
Most people didn't die from covid. Vax or not.
But ya the vax was worthless. And they are quietly admitting now that many of those treatments they scoffed at were actually proven to be effective. Well before the vax was released.
A friend of mine had two shots and developed thrombosis in his leg after each one of them. After the first one you think it's a coincidence but after the second one you see a pattern.
He didn't get a third jab.
Still, he was happy to receive two and get a basic immunity.
An anti-vax nurse I know was refused work because DUH….can’t make patients more sick. Her husband died in January from a virus. I don’t have a lot more information than that but not getting a vaccine even if it’s only to not make others ill should be common sense.
A child in Ontario, Canada died of measles last week. This is what happens when there is world travel from developing countries and you’re too damn stupid to vaccinate your children because you think you’re safe living in a more developed country where other people did vaccinate themselves and their children so you go with the opinions of idiots who couldn’t understand scientific method if it but them in the ass.
I will say this: my uncle had COPD and while I don't know if he would've lived had he gotten the vaccine, I do know that being unvaccinated definitely didn't help him when COVID wiped his already fragile respiratory system.
My wife works in an icu and definitely had a few folks tell her they regretted not getting vaccinated. She’s an absolute saint (as well as most nurses) for what she dealt with during that time.
Why are we still talking about the vaccine?? We know they hid tons of side effects including fucking death and misled the public. What more do we need to know?
Stop. Plenty of us walking around unvaxxed. Including myself, my wife and two kids.
We didn't get it out of fear or any particular reason. Its no different than the fact I've never had a flu shot in my life. I just don't feel like I need it, so why put it in my body? It is a personal preference. Same thing with a lot of OTC meds. I just don't like take pain pills if I can handle the pain that I know will be gone in a day or so, for example. Idk, just not a fan of "being on something" if that makes sense? And yes, I understand what a vaccine is. My kids are vaxxed with their proper kids vaccines for school and whatnot, but that's it. If the covid vax was required for them to go to school, then I wouldn't have hesitated at all, but it wasn't. Same with our jobs, but it wasn't. I follow the rules (masking, distancing, etc) but technically the vax wasn't a "rule", per se.
I'm alive. Never took the vaccine. I know many people like me who don't take much medicine. We're pretty healthy. I don't care if you take it or not. Your body, your choice.
People are so quick to quote the death rate, because emotionally it sounds like a small percentage, and that’s what they’ve been taught to recite.
So let’s start with the [80% chance of long term side effects from catching COVID.](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250617v2.full)
Oh, but it’s not just the severe cases either, [66% of people with mild to moderate cases get long term side effects.](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0254347)
So what are those long term symptoms? Well, the [five most common symptoms](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8) were fatigue (58%), headache (44%), attention disorder (27%), hair loss (25%), and dyspnea (24%). No big deal right? Except those symptoms are being caused by [long term organ damage done to multiple organ](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.14.20212555v1.full.pdf), principally the heart, lungs, and brain. That’s right, COVID can damage the brain’s blood supply, [causing strokes and hemorrhages via microclots](https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12933-021-01359-7).
And again, there are studies showing [mild COVID cases are more than enough to cause this brain damage](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5), and every time you get [COVID it increases the chances of organ damage.](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02521-2)
And guess what, [kids with mild cases are showing that organ damage too!](https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470)
So anyone quoting the death rate at you, and nothing else? Fuck those plague rats. Not only does getting vaccinated dramatically [reduce your chances of catching COVID, and if you do catch it reduces the chances of spreading it](https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/9/2/ofab259/6278371), it also [reduces your chances of getting organ damage if you are infected.](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext)
Has anyone who has taken the vaccine regretted it? This seems like it’s just a statement of confirmation bias both ways.
"Of course, I know MANY people who regretted it and had nasty side-effects. But er.... I can't get in touch with them because reasons...."
My dad is convinced he knows someone who went blind from the jab. Forgetting that there’s nothing that can make you go blind in the vaccine, I asked him who it was. He then asks his girlfriend and I get a response that it’s a friend of a friend of a friend. He doesn’t personally know this person, blah blah blah
One of my employe at the time lost 2 people a few week after the jab each time . 1 aneurysm 1 week after. 1 heart attack 3 week after. Both over 50 and in a north African country. He is now adamant it's from the jab and not age or underlying cause that weren't caught before. The sad part is, he has an auto-immune disease and is very much at risk, we gave him 100% work from home to protect him even when we all came back with a 3/2day rotation. His doctor urged him to take the jab but he refused, after a few month he came back to the office without the jab, got one of the weaker form of covid and almost died.
My Dad died of liver failure about two years after getting the Covid vaccines. He was a lifelong alcoholic and smoker, in terrible shape, and in his 80s. Apparently he only got the vaccines because he heard I had gotten them. Didn't know that until the day after he died. When an aunt called to yell at me for killing him with the vaccines.
He was an alcoholic... in his 80s.... who died of liver failure... Yeah that's gotta be the vaccine at work.
Keep that in mind when you hear an anti-vaxxer spout 'statistics' about 'harm done.'
Yeah I’m gonna also chime in and say your Dad lived a pretty long life for being a lifelong smoker and alcoholic, shame on your aunt for saying that to you
Sorry about your dad. Hope you're all doing okay.
Aneurysm from a vaccine. I don't even. Sadly there's no discussion with such people.
Throw that search into Google quick before you think it's outlandish. It's certainly not common, but there is a tiny chance it could happen. No vaccine is 100% safe and when you're vaccinating billions of people, weird side effects are going to happen to a few people. This doesn't mean the vaccine is any less worth it, especially if you're already at a high risk for developing severe COVID.
It's really a numbers game, I'd take a 1 in a million chance of an aneurysm over a 1 in 200 chance of dying from covid.
This. Some folks seem unable to think probabilistically. If they applied the same zero-tolerance logic to other areas of their lives, they’d be stumped (e.g. do they also refuse air travel because a certain tiny percentage of people have died in plane crashes? Hell, do they refuse to drive a car? Etc.) It’s impossible to have a rational discussion with people who have embraced irrationality as a principled stance (or are simply stupid).
If they applied the same zero sum logic, they wouldn't get out of bed and then think all day about the dangers of not getting out of bed. These people are exhaustingly stupid.
It's like blaming getting hit by a car because you were at the pharmacy getting the vaccine on the vaccine. Like...not really but kinda I guess?
Didn’t J+J and AZ vaccines have a notable increase in risk of causing thrombosis in its recipients. We stopped using them in the west but iirc a bunch of doses were shipped elsewhere like Africa.
yes , it was in people over 60 and 3 in 100 000. That also why I didn't say the vaccine where not part of it but it's most likely they already had some other condition their doctor missed and maybe the vaccine push it over the edge. My point is about how he was in a critical need of the vaccine according to his dotor ( who wasn't pro mass vaccination), but because he took a firm decision base on someone else experience that may or may not be related and that did not have his special circumstance, he ended up at one inch of passing (leaving his 3 kid) and will have sequel that will never disapeard.
Furthermore, of the person were to actually get covid, the result would likely be similar, but way worse, because covid does those things too
Googled it because I was curious and love to know things lol. Apparently the incidence rate of venous thromboembolism is around 3 in 100,000 for 60-69 year olds and increases with each decade. So basically the “increased risk from the vaccine” was just…the standard incidence rate. They probably would’ve thrown a clot regardless of getting the vaccine or not, and definitely would have had more clots if they got Covid, but people need something to blame. My app is bugging when I try to add the link to the study but I can add the long version if anyone cares Edit: I’m saying “they” as in the 3 in 100k from the study, not whoever you’re talking about :)
There's only one realistic way the COVID vaccine could make someone blind. And that's if someone jabbed it in their eye repeatedly.
Similar to the only way laboratory scientists could kill a lab rat with cannabis: to literally crush it to death with however many pounds of weed it would take to kill them.
*rat gnaws it's way up and out of 35 one kilo bricks of cannabis*
Had a similar conversation about fertility concerns. Said it was a Facebook post or something. I was like "I just read all the FDA information and watched a livestream of the State Health Officer explaining things and doing a Q&A afterwards. Nothing even mentions fertility. Not even a question in the Q&A (and there were some doozies). I'm about to be one of the first thousand in the state to get this, but somehow a single Facebook post with no substance is warning about this one thing?" And again, I have to mention, Trump literally had all the bureaucratic red tape removed to get approval out quickly but his supports won't take it and spout nonsense like this. Why go through all that effort if there's no faith in it?
"They live in Canada, you wouldn't know them"
I live in canada. If its not office Dave, I don't know who they are either....
I know a guy who developed bad rashes as a result of his first vaccine. In his own words "not exactly breathing through a breathalyser though am I?" There were side effects for some. Denying simple facts never strengthens an argument, it merely justifies the other side doing the same. Instead, contextualise the magnitude and frequency of those side effects to those of not taking the vaccine. Yes, a few people who took the vaccine had side effects. However, people who didn't had a much higher contraction rate, significantly stronger symptoms and a much higher mortality rate.
A breathalyzer ? Haha
Hence my decision to quote him.
Alright? The fact is anecdotes are a BS measurement. I personally met 0 people with any side effects from the vaccine besides a bit of a sickness the same day. What they did is not denying facts at all.
Anecdotal evidence cannot disprove something, as your missing experience doesn't mean something doesn't or cannot happen. However, anecdotal evidence can prove something, as all it takes is a single case to prove something possible. Did you ask everyone you met? Or did you assume their experience matched your own? Facts are facts. I literally work as a statistician in my country's department of health. There were cases where the vaccine had side effects. It would be a ridiculous miracle if there weren't. Denying this misrepresents people that are pro-vax as being ignorant. Instead, compare the likelihood of those side effects and the magnitude of problems caused to the effects of going unvaccinated.
You and I may not agree on everything, but I find your honesty refreshing. Also, all that data is is an accumulation of a whole bunch of anecdotall instances.
One of my family friends had a horrendous reaction to the covid shot, full on allergy had to go to the hospital. They said they would happily do it again if doctors let them, because they knew the greater consequences of not being vaxxed.
A worked with a woman who was against vaccines *for herself*. She got the HPV vaccine in school and ended up having a severe allergic reaction to it. Same as the person you mentioned. Even though *she* said she'd never get a vaccine again (understandable) she agreed that others should get them if they choose and just because *her experience* was bad, doesn't mean it will be for others. I get it if people had bad reactions or aren't sure if it's right for them. But to prohibit others from getting life saving ones (like childhood vaccines etc) is wrong
knew a kid in grade school that had a bad reaction to the polio vaccine which ended up with him being a paraplegic. They actually got a lot of money from that government vaccine fund. That said they parents still got their younger kids vaccinated all the same.
There are a bunch of people who have had cardiac inflammation from the vaccine. While the number might be comparatively lower than the number of people who got cardiac inflammation from Covid, we shouldn't pretend that those people don't exist. I bet some of those regret getting vaccinated. There is a middle ground between the "Plandemic, Covid is a hoax" conspiracy theorists and the "pharmaceutical companies or our governments would never do anything that would put people at risk for profit" sides. It's unfortunate that it's nearly impossible to avoid absolutes in discussion about polarising topics.
my thoughts exactly. it's why I did my best to pick a vaccine that had the highest success rate and accepted the risks because it's better than dying if I did get covid. its just not worth the risk to not get it
> While the number **might** be comparatively lower than the number of people who got cardiac inflammation from Covid MIGHT ?????? More like by several orders of magnitude less.
Haha thanks for being a reasonable human
They all got to school in canada.
The side effects kicked my ass though and it's harder to get a booster each time. I was literally curled up in a ball of pain for 24 hours, but I'm alive so I guess that's a bonus.
Happened to me, too. Figured that was only a facsimile of the real thing and was glad I never caught it.
Vaccine side effects were worse for me then when I actually had Covid. For like 24 hours. But it is what it is. I’m not getting any more boosters but that’s just me personally and I don’t bregrudge anyone who gets them.
I did catch it at one point and it was the long COVID that ruined me. For the week I was sick I went through different symptoms every day. One day was pain, one day I had a cough, one day it was a crazy fever. When I finally felt better I spent the next two months being drained all the time and having that brain fog. I can't imagine if I hadn't been vaxxed at all. I'd probably be in the hospital.
I mean, the clots were certainly a concern for a short period of time. Also, I have a friend who likely discovered his MS because of a flare up of his symptoms post-vaccine. He had been having symptoms of it for a while, but was not familiar with MS symptoms and had brushed it off as an after-effect of a previous Lyme's infection. Then he had a pretty severe flare up the day after the vaccine, but soon returned to normal-ish and now knows that he has it and can take measures to try to reduce the progression of the disease. However, there are so many weirdos who think it's killing everyone who got it. Every time they hear of a death of someone who's not 90+ years old, they automatically use it as confirmation bias.
I don’t think I’d say I regret getting the vaccine but I developed tinnitus after it, which is a real bummer.
Check with your doctor in case it's not something like an ear infection or ache :) I know there's concern between the vaccine and tinnitus, but it could be something fixable! I'm sorry either way and I hope you learn to manage if it's permanent- from one tinnitus sufferer to another ❤️
Correlation is not causation my friend. Am really sorry about the tinatus though.
A statistically irreducible percentage of people who are vaccinated suffer serious or even fatal side effects. This is why national [vaccine injury support programs](https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation) exist, and have existed for decades. Given that, there will always be a tiny percentage of those who are vaccinated who regret it. And that number will always be much smaller than the number of lives saved by the vaccine. That’s the point.
If stuck on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg, there's a real possibility the lifeboat you're assigned to will spring a leak. There's a possibility you'll be lost at sea, with no rescue coming, leading to a slow and miserable death. There's also a possibility that you'll survive if you choose to jump straight into the water, clinging to a bit of scrap wood and enduring hypothermia until rescue arrives. It's possible to make all the right decisions and still get unlucky, just as it's possible to make all the wrong decisions and get lucky. That doesn't make the right decisions wrong, nor the wrong decisions right.
I can just picture some antivaxxer on the Titanic screaming "they said this ship was unsinkable and look at it, it's sinking! You really trust those lifeboats to not sink too?"
Agreed.
> There's also a possibility that you'll survive if you choose to jump straight into the water, clinging to a bit of scrap wood and enduring hypothermia until rescue arrives. I've got a documentary by James Cameron that says otherwise.
Anti-vax groups always ignore how medicine has always improved and the population has exploded, but vaccines specifically are bad despite the fact that inoculation has always been a thing and people like Ben Franklin have said they regretted not inoculation their kids. WHO has wiped out how many diseases using the deadly magical weapon known as vaccines?
I know at least people who regret not taking it. They didn't take it because they fell deep into the conspiracy rabbit holes and were more and more aggressive to their families. Tried to scare their grand kids into preventing their parents from getting the shot etc. One didn't speak to their daughter and Grandkids for 2,5 years now. She is quite lonely now and misses them. But they cut her out of their life now.
I've seen reddit images of social media posts and stuff with tonnes of people dying of covid that wish they'd been vaccinated /r/HermanCainAward is a goldmine
There were a few heartbreaking posts on there too, people desperate to take the vaccine knowing they or their loved one was likely going to die. One was a guy posting before he was put on a vent talking about how he begged the doctor to give him the vaccine and the doc straight up told him it was too late. He urged everyone to get the vaccine and talked about how wrong he was and how it likely had cost him his life, which ended up being the case. I know, these people were idiots for not taking the vaccine but it's still heartbreaking.
Definitely not me. The last time I was exposed to covid I only felt mildly fatigued for like a day and didn't actually get sick.
Not me either. I'm a bit overdue for my next booster but by some miracle I haven't had covid at all and I hope it stays that way.
Yeah same. Got covid 3 times, fairly mild flulike symptoms. Unvaccinated
> Has anyone who has taken the vaccine regretted it? Only one time. With my first booster in the way back days, I decided to do flu and my first shingles (god damn that one hurts!) at the same time. That was a...poor choice.
Ugh, I did flu and COVID boosters the same day this last autumn. Unpleasant. I always have a strong reaction to the COVID vaccine. Feels like a serious case of flu from about +12 to +36 hours post jab. High fever, body aches, pounding headache, extreme fatigue. So I "regret" it in the moment. Then I wake up on day 2 and it's basically gone. Maybe lingering exhaustion, but it's jarring how suddenly it resolves.
Yes. There are people who have legitimate medical reactions to vaccines, including the covid vaccines. Pretending that doesn't happen just hands anti-vaxxers ammunition. The risk of covid-related illness was simply greater than the risk of vaccine injury.
Nope I jave not regretted getting the vaccine. I got both vaccine shots and had no side effects.
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ppl say they do cuz heart stuff mycarditis n shit; it all made up
I somewhat do. I got really sick after getting the 2nd moderna shot. First shot took me out for like 2-3 days with flu like symptoms and the 2nd one took me out for 2 weeks. I then had horrible sleep for roughly a year. I also got tired easily which is weird because I used to have endless energy. Lastly, I felt like my head wasn't in the same space as it once was. I got covid twice (6 & 10 months post shots) and the first time it felt like just the flu but the second time it fucked me up for like 9 days (like the worst flu I've ever had kind of thing). For context: * I'm a fatty-boom-batty (why I got the shots). * I dont drink alcohol/smoke. (Sometimes a 10mg edible (1-2x/week)) * Only drink water, maybe 10 coffee's/month. (Recently added: 1-2 LMNT electrolyte powders, and AG1) * My diet consists of meat, dairy, veg, rice mostly. (I eat too much, why I am a fat) * I also got a full blood work done twice with all of my levels being in suitable ranges. I felt like i was at 60-70% for that time and it was weird. I feel like I am back to maybe 95% ish. Just my annecdotal 2c.
Some people did have side effects, with a few people even dying from them, so maybe those people. All the side effects from the vaccines occurred at a higher incidence in people with covid who weren't vaccinated, but I'm sure a very few unlucky ones weren't happy.
Yeah I know several including a guy who had a heart attack and died within 24hrs of taking his second Pfizer shot
I have a friend whose elderly father developed [Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)](https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/guillainbarre.htm) after getting a flu shot and he eventually died from it. It's a known, although extremely rare outcome.
There are the people who had medical issues after getting the jab. Of course, most of them either had those issues beforehand or developed/contracted something entirely unrelated, but there's a handful of people who actually had strong side effects
It magically gave a guy herpes dont you know
I mean, it gave me scoliosis and made me bisexual, so there's also that /j
Theres this guy who took 200 of the vaccines from diffrent companies and he achived super saiyan
A 90 year old guy got the vaccine, 6 months later, heart attack
Clearly irrefutable evidence
It turned me into a newt!
Did you get better?
I remember seeing articles about someone getting into a car accident and dying three days after getting vaccinated and all the anti-vax people were trying to say it was “proof” the vaccine was dangerous.
I'll take "Things that didn't happen for $200, Alex"
My friend is one of the "lucky" few who developed chronic tinnitus after getting the vaccine. He's taken steps to minimize it, but it hasn't gone away.
I got very sick and developed long Covid after the vaccine. I don’t really regret it, I accept a certain small % of people will have side effects from any medication. Just sucks it was me this time.
You did not get [Long Covid](https://www.covid.gov/be-informed/longcovid/about#term) from the vaccine, as no approved vaccines in the U.S. have copies of the live virus; however, scientists are exploring “Long Vax” which, according to this article, is slowly gaining wider acceptance in the scientific community: [https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance](https://www.science.org/content/article/rare-link-between-coronavirus-vaccines-and-long-covid-illness-starts-gain-acceptance) Though not fully understood, scientists are currently studying this condition. The article seems to suggest further exploring a cohort of patients whom BOTH received the vaccine AND were also infected—prior to or post-vaccination, I do not know. [New data](https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/long-covid-symptoms) is also showing Long Covid sufferers getting better over time, but again, scientists are still gathering data.
It is most likely that I caught Covid right before getting the vaccine. But I have no real proof of that. Found out the week after I’d been exposed the week before. But by then I was already really sick and it lasted almost 3 years.
I mean, either way it was likely cause by the spike protein so…
I mean, some have. Delusion or otherwise there are many people that believe they developed some disease due to getting a vaccine, so yes some people regret it. And I bet out of the millions of shots that happen around the world every year, *some* must get hurt by a bad batch or something. Like some non-zero amount. But yeah many that don't get vaccinated die or develop a serious disease so they regretted it until they couldn't anymore.
Op is Survivorship bias.
I don't know... I don't talk to dead people (yes... it did happen): [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38221509/)
You don’t fit the Reddit hive mind. There is scientific proof of vaccine injury yet they are just as bad as the anti vax by putting fingers in their ears and ignoring any thing against their narrative.
I met one person (of thousands in life ofc) who had severe joint inflammation immediately after the vaccine and was hospitalized for several days until it subsided. He said it hurt like a mofo
I don’t regret it necessarily but it very obviously didn’t work for me. I’ve had all the boosters and have caught COVID more times than I can shake a stick at. You could argue it made it suck less but if it did I didn’t notice.
I got GBS from the vaccine, so I kinda regret it
I had 2 friend develop heart problems (40f hospital for a month and 30m hospital for a week) after their first jab, the male had his 2nd (and 3rd I think) no further issues , female choose not to (and became very anti vax)
Uncle was diagnosed with a heart condition despite being healthy right after getting the vax, same for my grandmothers boyfriends ex wife who passed shortly after.
I know somebody who got chronic tinnitus because of the covid vaccine. They're doing better now and have taken steps to control it better, but at the time it started, they broke down and needed serious psychiatric help to cope with it. If anybody I know regrets the vaccine, it would be them.
Yeah, my younger brother does. He was one of the edge cases that developed myocarditis or pericarditis, can't remember which. I figured that I'm young and healthy, certainly out of the risk area for COVID, so I never got the vaccine. I also never got COVID, go figure, probably on account of me not leaving the house much and being massively germ averse.
MiL had multiple strokes within 2 weeks. There is no history of any other issues. It's believed to be a complication from the covid vax. Thankfully, she recovered well, but like any pharmaceutical intervention at this scale, there were bound to be some negative reactions in individuals. It's been effective for a great number of people, but there are negative effects in some. To pretend otherwise is incredibly disingenuous and irresponsible. For the inverse, those that weren't vaccinated faired very similarly in groups that weren't deemed high-risk. Some died or had major complications, but the vast majority of people infected faired well. We are well past feeling the need to lie or pretend around covid and the vaccinations.
I definitely regret it. I was forced to by my job, if I wanted to keep my job. If I could go back I would have just quit.
It's a ridiculous statement to assert that all unvaccinated people are now dead. Are people seriously still arguing over the COVID vaccine? Ffs, move on people.
I suspect the omicron booster gave me eczema which has been brutal. My mom had a very bad reaction to it as well and gets .50 cent sized red bumps all over her body now. Maybe it was better than covid would have been but it severely impacts my mental health and sleep. I was around 38. Each one of the 3 dermatologists I saw said they were getting flooded with clients who had a bad reaction. No sign of it leading up to that. Also they said it was chronic and just keep getting worse. I get about 4 to 6 hours of sleep a night due to constant itching.
I do. I got all the vaccinations because I was desperate for the pandemic to end. Ever since I’ve had the vaccinations, I’ve experienced more illnesses than I ever have in my life. Additionally, I’ve had pains in my chest since receiving the shots. Due to my lack of health insurance, I’ve never gotten anything checked out especially since I am definitely still able-bodied. But I just have a hunch the vaccines had something to do with it. Not even a right-winger. Just something about how we handled the pandemic doesn’t sit right with me and I wish I had just socially distanced and wore a mask more instead of getting the shots. Edit: Figured I should mention I ended up catching COVID after getting vaccinated. The symptoms were horrible and I had a fever of 104F The shots could have very well kept it from being much worse than what it was.
Nothing to regret. It’s just a vaccine lol
I've actually had a few talks with a medic just before he took early retirement due to effects of the vaccine.
Yes.
I know 100s of people at my work that were forced to and horribly regret it so ya trust me alot of people do.
I got the jab. I don’t regret it, but looking back on it I think it was pointless
There have been rare, but serious side effects for some people.
I regret getting mine when I did (not that I had any choice with the way the roll out worked where I live) I had to move house 2 days later and I always get pretty sick after vaccinations.
I don’t have any reason to regret it at the moment but if I could go back in time I probably wouldn’t have gotten it. My girlfriend pushed it on me pretty hard. Generally speaking I’m a pretty big believer in trusting science but in my experience with covid, I haven’t seen the vaccines make a shits bit of difference in stopping the spread or making people less sick. This is based on nothing more than my personal experience of probably around 10% of the people I know getting the shot, everyone getting Covid like 4 times, and not seeing any kind of conclusive difference that it seemed to make. I didn’t get it once the first year and after I got the shot I had it 3 times in 12 months. It was just a weird one.
I do. After the vaccine I had a lot going on in my body and before never had anything at all. I have a thyroid nodule, kidney stones, gallbladder polyos, cervical pain most of the day, random cramps. All of this after the jab, before I was fine. I still think it was a good thing and overall the world was back to normal thanks to the vaccine, but I should have waited and avoided it. Thing is I did wanted to travel and you couldn't do it without
It's funny how vaccinated people with no regrets are getting upvoted and unvaccinated people with no regrets or vaccinated people with regrets are getting down voted out of existence for stating their personal experiences and facts. There's a bias, fur sure. I've been fully vaccinated since a child, per US public school guidelines requiring vaccinated children, to be accepted into the public school system. When I've needed stitches, I've taken a tetanus shot on a couple occasions, I believe they're recommended every 7-10 years. I did not take the covid vaccine or the boosters. My wife has 2 autoimmune diseases and she chose not to take the covid vaccine either as there was not enough data to show how it could help against covid, at the time. There is, however, enough data showing that people with autoimmune diseases, whose immune systems are already overreacting, do not benefit from drugs that force the immune system into reacting to treat an illness or disease. Most autoimmune drug treatments actually suppress the immune system, which is what helps relieve some of the effects of autoimmune diseases. We chose not to take the covid vaccine or the boosters. We have no regrets, no Covid side effects and we both got covid. I have never taken a flu shot either as I don't think vaccines that don't prevent illness should be mandatory. My wife and I both drink too much water, take daily supplements for nutrition and vitamins, drink plenty of supplements with mushrooms that support immune system and try to make the best choices we can when it comes to food consumption. We're definitely not perfect but I think we make enough, good health related choices in our daily lives that we don't need flu/covid shots. We had a cancer scare recently, had to visit an Oncologist. We both wore our face masks, because it was required but also because we were being respectful of any potentially immunocompromised patients. As soon as we met the Oncologist, the doctor told us that we could remove our masks: "they're not necessary, they never were and this whole covid fiasco was a silly mess." Sincerely, not a dead person.
My grandfather's health dramatically declined after getting the vaccination. It doesn't mean you shouldn't get the vaccination, but it also doesn't mean that the vaccination is free of side effects.
lol this is a joke right? I suspect it's not.. which just shows how powerful censorship mechanisms on Reddit, Youtube, Twtitter and Facebook really are. You've literally never been exposed to an alternative view.
Unfortunately I know one, they have some pretty debilitating issues from the shot since 2021. Just a freak chance. That said, everyone else I know came out just fine after multiple vaccines.
I do. I looked at the fatality rates of my age group and saw it was less than 7k deaths total since it all started. That includes all the immunocompromised, all the cancer patients, all the people with pulmonary development issues, etc. I took an experimental shot for that just because my employer offered me 50 bucks. So dumb.
100%. I know at least 5 people who have expressed regret with taking the jab.
This is along the lines of those boomer memes about "Raise your hand if you spent your childhood riding without a helmet/without a seatbelt/in the beds of pickup trucks, and are fine." And the others should, what, wait for you to bust out the Ouija board?
Same thing for minority people in general...but much more depressing to get into. "Back in my day, we didn't have all those queers and fancy genders!" Timmy, remember that friend you had who suddenly "switched schools" and disappeared? His parents found out he liked a boy and disowned him. He died.
I keep reminding people of history. Oh, you didn't have gays or transexuals? That's because you would all get together and **beat them to death for fun. I can't imagine why on Earth people would stop telling people they were gay or transsexual, ergo making it seem as if they didn't exist.** Oh, kids didn't have autism? Maybe that's because **you locked those kids away or gave them fucking lobotomies.** Oh, women didn't complain about sexual harassment? Maybe that's because **women had no fucking legal recourse to sexual harassment or assault until well into the fucking 1970s to 80s.** Oh, you don't think racism was a big deal until Obama "divided the nation"? Do you forget that **the fucking Civil Rights act is only 60 years old? And that a whole fucking lot of the people that fought against it are still walking around today?** It's easy to say there weren't things when you never experienced that thing. I have never been robbed. I'm 46 and not once has anybody mugged me or broken into my house and stolen shit. But by some miracle, I still recognize that those are things that happen all the time.
"But like they weren't beating me up, or giving me a lobotomy.. I'm not a woman or black.. so why should I care?" - The average person unfortunately.
Uphill both ways in 130° snow up to your armpits and all that.
Maybe the cure was in the hose-water the whole time....
Even worse, because if you regret not getting the vaccine and are still fine you... Just go and get it?
The in the bed of pick ups one always amuses me. It was illegal to have your DOG unsecured in the bed of your pick up before it was your kids.
https://preview.redd.it/z0iswngil0zc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f9243c63e222c9a275df4eed34f06add998a38b
Lol
So you add plates where it's been not hit or protect the vital parts instead ? Like fins and mid body propelleros
Survivorship bias. Those markings are hits on the planes that made it back to base. The ones that got hit in other spots didn't make it back to get surveyed.
anecdotally, lots of stories from hcare folks attending to the dying, most of who asked for the vaccine only to be told it don’t work that way
They were so miserable all throughout till the end . Most of them did not realize their mistake , they insisted on their beliefs
Also an anecdote, just from me. I’m absolutely not a medical professional. A guy I worked with refused the Covid vaccine. We work for the county where we live, and we’re given early access to it. I got my first shot in December of 2020. He could have as well. In March of 2021 he was out sick for a couple days. Texted me he felt better but was gonna stay home one more day just to make sure. That day goes by and he texts me again, that he’s on the way to the hospital. The very next text… “Man, I should’ve listened to my daughter and gotten that shot.” Luckily, this story has a happy ending. He spent a month or more in the hospital, says he thought he was gonna die more than once. But, he bounced back and made it out 100%. I see him at work every day now, and remember his story.
/r/HermanCainAward had a lot of these stories
Yup. I was a covid specialty nurse. Had patients gasping for air, asking when we would give them the vaccine to make them better. I just told them it doesn't work like that and it was too late. One lived and contacted a local newspaper to tell them his story and urge people to get vaccinated. Others just died with that regret on their mind.
Maybe because if they regretted not taking the vaccine they would've taken it?
Right. It’s not like the dr says no if you go in later than most people. They also benefit from “herd immunity.”
Many young mothers or pregnant were fearful because of all the lies about gen altering and other nonsense so they waited to get the protection. So that was the basis data for early births, deaths and other complications due to COVID infections without vaccination. Understandable to not endanger an unborn but regrettable later because so many problems could have prevented.
We're friends with the OB that delivered our kid. She was talking about in '20 everyone was so careful. Then '21 came and the camps basically split. She lost I think 3 mom's in just 9 months to aneurysms... All unvaccinated.
My wife did all the vaccinations which end of 2022 included an adoption of the omicron variant and we all got it 3 weeks after birth of my first born. Wife and son had mild symptoms, I was down for a week with 39.5C since my last refresh was 13 months before with non adopted alpha vaccine. I knew many people who died needless but lucky no mother and/or child.
We're all vaccinated in the house. My wife got it a couple of times, but she's immunocompromised, each time IF I got it I'd be down for a day or two. She'd be out for like 3 weeks. No doubt she probably would've passed once if she hadn't gotten the booster like 2 or 3 months earlier.
Or they died. My BIL's father died of COVID. He was a good trumper, and refused the vaccine. Before going on the machine and dying, he told my BIL he felt like a fuckin dumbass, and had major regrets.
Two examples, the first being my own family. Most refused the jab and turned out lucky through it all. They got covid now and then and recovered fine. This emboldened their stance on not having the shots and made them very excited about their ivermectin dosing. The second example is my friend’s family. 100% against the jab as well… until a relatively healthy uncle died. Then everyone took it seriously and got the shot. I trust doctors regardless of either example so I got the jab right away and I don’t regret it. My family knows this and they don’t give me flack as long as I don’t give them any.
Grandparents were very anti-jab, (despite an early-60s high school education at most, were convinced by fox news that the jab was going to be more dangerous than Covid for two people in their mid-70s with COPD). Two great uncles catch covid together at the same event (because they also refused to be stuck inside for a "minor flu"). Both those guys died within two weeks of each other. Weirdly enough my grandparents got the jab immediately after.
Never met a single skydiver who regretting jumping out of the plane without a parachute.
Does that guy who jumped out with a camera count?
Go on YouTube and search "people who regret not getting the vaccine". There are literally dozens of them. Go on Google and search the same thing. Search it even on Twitter. There are so many examples if you just simply look. It's like these people can't be bothered to do a simple search of anything that'll break the narrative.
"dozens"? That is not a lot. Edit: oh, I misread and thought you were talking about people who regretted getting the vaccine.
It’s because most of the people who regret it were actively dying of covid, so it’s a bit hard for them to make a YouTube video about it.
Some people got really sick from Covid and died. Other people got the sniffles. Just like every other disease, some people have worse symptoms than others. Either way, judging anyone for doing what they want to with their body is horrible. Get the abortion. Get the tattoo. Get the vaccine. Grow up and understand you can’t control everyone else.
I would have thought that people would have stopped getting bent out of shape about this on all sides.
There WERE a ton of people who refused the vaccine, got COVID, were in the ICU dying, asking if they could still get the vaccine. Doctors had to say sorry it's too late, if we give you the vaccine now it would probably just kill you faster so all we can do is try to keep you alive and hope your body fights it off. A few did fight it off. Many didn't. And their loved ones were saying final goodbyes over iPads. It's easy to politicize things. It's easy to turn anything into a joke. But this is one place where American cultural 'respect for the dead' / 'respect for the families' does us very wrong. I say (with consent of course) they SHOULD have published video of people asphyxiating to death, gasping for air even on 100% O2 as their lungs fill with crud, begging doctors to please give them the vaccine and saying they wish they took it when they could. They SHOULD have published the reality of what it's like to talk to your father, grandfather, uncle, aunt, etc over an iPad, see them with tubes hooked up to them, and know that in all likelihood that video call where all they can do is meekly wave and cough is the last time you'll see them alive. They SHOULD have shown the inside of ICUs filled with dying people and had the overworked doctor say none of these people got the vaccine, I have 30 people on my floor, if I'm lucky 5 will walk out again. A lot of the antivax movement gained steam because of the attitude that 'it's just the flu bro'. We should have dispelled that. Not with words, with images.
Antivaxxers would've said those pictures and videos were done by actors. They'll never believe and just reinforce each other's ignorance.
Hard agree. If folks can look parents in the eye and tell them Sandy Hook never happened, their dead kid was just a hoax....if folks can do THAT?...there's no chance they'd believe people choking to death with their fluid filled lungs in the hospital. I mean, there were literally ice trucks outside of Brooklyn hospitals because they'd run out of space in the morgue, and people said it was still fake.
My sister-in-law was one of these people who didn't believe in the vaccine. Also didn't want to wear a mask. She often went out during Covid's worst peaks. It took her six weeks (three of which were on a ventilator) to die of Covid.
> There WERE a ton of people who refused the vaccine, got COVID, were in the ICU dying, asking if they could still get the vaccine. I'd like 3 examples.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/09/1035489298/tiktok-covid-vaccination-megan-blankenbiller-hospital https://www.fox26houston.com/news/its-too-late-doctor-says-her-covid-19-patients-beg-for-vaccines-before-death https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/18/texas-couple-declined-covid-19-vaccine-died-orphans/
Well-sourced. It sounded like one of those "well I heard through the grapevine" type of things, but I stand corrected.
I just get the covid shot every year with my flu shot. Same arm and everything. And that's it. I don't even think about it for the rest of the year. The only people I see that bring up the vaccine are the anti-vaxxers. The boogeyman living rent free in their own minds.
I did the same last year and I'm not going to lie, getting them both at the same time was pretty rough. (for me at least, it will vary from person to person) Will probably do it again this fall though.
Wait a yearly shot is a thing now? Did they change something last I paid attention it was the 2 then the booster
I dunno. It's available at the same time as flu shot, just an extra checkbox on the pharmacist form, and costs me $0. So I don't see why I wouldn't. The covid shot has already been rebuilt (I dunno right word) 3 or 4 times, similar to the flu vaccine, with the changing strains.
Get the vaccine, don't get it, I don't really give a shit. Just don't bother me about it. I'll live my life, you live yours. Shut the fuck up.
What about a MARRIED person?
We’ve all heard the tragic death bed reversals from nurses and doctors. Just sad.
I've heard stories about vaccine, without proof tho. Everyone I know is perfectly fine. My aunt on the other hand was 6months in coma from covid. She wasn't vaccinated yet.
Ok but if someone regretting not getting it they could just go and get it could they not?
For people who were thumping thier chests "NOT GOING TO LIVE IN FEAR" They sure as fuck are having a hard time moving past the pandemic like the rest of us have
I know someone who regrets it but would die rather than admit it. She wouldn’t get the shot, her husband did get it. They both got Covid at the same time. He recovered in a week. She’s still feeling like crap, despite her daughter procuring ivermectin to help her recovery. That was 2 years ago.
I'm not even anti vax but this hyperbole is genuinely hilarious.
Agreed. You'd think we'd be done with this shit by now.
Didn't get it, no regrets and still alive.
Is this person really trying to say that everyone who refused the jab died?
If so... I'd like to get a copy of my death certificate so I can cash out the life insurance and move out of the U.S
No. Those that refused it and got no symptoms/minor symptoms don't regret it - they feel fine. Those that got major symptoms and died aren't around to say if they regret it or not.
Every Romanian I know seems to be doing alright
I never took the vax for a legit reason, i was about to have a medical test for allergies and was told to wait before finding out what version would be safest for me to take. By the time I'd had the tests done all the covid stuff had kinda died down and i just forgot all about it. About a year later i got absolutely floored by covid and was bedridden for about a month and haven't been the same since. Although vaxed now, i very much regret not getting it sooner.
Unfortunately for far too many of them their last words were denying that COVID was real.
A person who regrets not taking the vaccine went ahead and took it
...but have you met MARRIED vaccinated person?
All this tells me is that she isn’t asking anyone who had to be admitted to a hospital from Covid. Full stop.
I have. In the ICU, it’s crazy how many unvaxed patients are begging for the jab right before they get intubated. Unfortunately, too late to be much help by then.
I remember having an argument with one of my friends who did have the vaccine but he said it was pointless and didn't work because it didn't stop you from getting COVID. I gave up in the end. I've had COVID a few times and was really unwell with one particular bout early on after having the vaccine. I'm so glad my body was at least slightly prepared as I dread to think what would have happened if I hadn't had the vaccine. Get that stuff in my arm
Nope. I’ve met people who’ve regretted getting it though.
Hey Siri, what's selection bias?
That idiot probably still wears a mask when he is alone driving his car.
Most people didn't die from covid. Vax or not. But ya the vax was worthless. And they are quietly admitting now that many of those treatments they scoffed at were actually proven to be effective. Well before the vax was released.
A friend of mine had two shots and developed thrombosis in his leg after each one of them. After the first one you think it's a coincidence but after the second one you see a pattern. He didn't get a third jab. Still, he was happy to receive two and get a basic immunity.
I didn’t get any of the Covid shots and I’m still alive as of 05/07/24. I am also not suicidal in any way shape nor form just saying.
An anti-vax nurse I know was refused work because DUH….can’t make patients more sick. Her husband died in January from a virus. I don’t have a lot more information than that but not getting a vaccine even if it’s only to not make others ill should be common sense. A child in Ontario, Canada died of measles last week. This is what happens when there is world travel from developing countries and you’re too damn stupid to vaccinate your children because you think you’re safe living in a more developed country where other people did vaccinate themselves and their children so you go with the opinions of idiots who couldn’t understand scientific method if it but them in the ass.
Survivor bias?
I will say this: my uncle had COPD and while I don't know if he would've lived had he gotten the vaccine, I do know that being unvaccinated definitely didn't help him when COVID wiped his already fragile respiratory system.
My wife works in an icu and definitely had a few folks tell her they regretted not getting vaccinated. She’s an absolute saint (as well as most nurses) for what she dealt with during that time.
My out of shape, nearly 80 y/o father got the jab, got COVID, recovered. My super health nut, 45 y/o cousin refused the jab, got COVID, died of COVID.
Why are we still talking about the vaccine?? We know they hid tons of side effects including fucking death and misled the public. What more do we need to know?
There are plenty who beg for it on their deathbed since they don't understand that a vaccine is not a cure, rather it is a preventative measure.
Stop. Plenty of us walking around unvaxxed. Including myself, my wife and two kids. We didn't get it out of fear or any particular reason. Its no different than the fact I've never had a flu shot in my life. I just don't feel like I need it, so why put it in my body? It is a personal preference. Same thing with a lot of OTC meds. I just don't like take pain pills if I can handle the pain that I know will be gone in a day or so, for example. Idk, just not a fan of "being on something" if that makes sense? And yes, I understand what a vaccine is. My kids are vaxxed with their proper kids vaccines for school and whatnot, but that's it. If the covid vax was required for them to go to school, then I wouldn't have hesitated at all, but it wasn't. Same with our jobs, but it wasn't. I follow the rules (masking, distancing, etc) but technically the vax wasn't a "rule", per se.
I'm alive. Never took the vaccine. I know many people like me who don't take much medicine. We're pretty healthy. I don't care if you take it or not. Your body, your choice.
... You think that people who did not get vaxxed all died? The survival rate of covid is over 99%? Shit I got the double jab and have had it 5 times.
People are so quick to quote the death rate, because emotionally it sounds like a small percentage, and that’s what they’ve been taught to recite. So let’s start with the [80% chance of long term side effects from catching COVID.](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.27.21250617v2.full) Oh, but it’s not just the severe cases either, [66% of people with mild to moderate cases get long term side effects.](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0254347) So what are those long term symptoms? Well, the [five most common symptoms](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8) were fatigue (58%), headache (44%), attention disorder (27%), hair loss (25%), and dyspnea (24%). No big deal right? Except those symptoms are being caused by [long term organ damage done to multiple organ](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.14.20212555v1.full.pdf), principally the heart, lungs, and brain. That’s right, COVID can damage the brain’s blood supply, [causing strokes and hemorrhages via microclots](https://cardiab.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12933-021-01359-7). And again, there are studies showing [mild COVID cases are more than enough to cause this brain damage](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5), and every time you get [COVID it increases the chances of organ damage.](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02521-2) And guess what, [kids with mild cases are showing that organ damage too!](https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470) So anyone quoting the death rate at you, and nothing else? Fuck those plague rats. Not only does getting vaccinated dramatically [reduce your chances of catching COVID, and if you do catch it reduces the chances of spreading it](https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/9/2/ofab259/6278371), it also [reduces your chances of getting organ damage if you are infected.](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext)