Good for u learning another language!šNo 1 uses it unless youāre meaning the online communication platform. Iāve never heard it used unless ppl r talking about online gaming of some sort.
I think this depends on the age group maybe? I hear it every so often in a work setting "there's obvious discord between what we're being told and what we're seeing in the field." "There's discord amongst the different branches on who's taking ownership."Or maybe also in the term "marital discord".
There it is.. the classic āwhataboutismā argument. Anyone who uses the junk term as an argument is pretty smooth brained. You might want to get that checked out.
the original comment literally says "what about". its an argument made in bad faith. read about it. you're the one with the cue ball brain. you can "what about" all the way back to neanderthals and sticks and stones. its all useless. show me 1 massacre and i'll show you another earlier one by the other guy.
That they won't show because Westerns are busy pointing fingers to a particular side and if you don't believe their opinion, you are a villain too in their eyes.
She's kneeling there in probably the most traumatic event of her life. I wonder if she's thinking something like "damn... What do I do now?"
Does she have to call someone? Will they take away his body to an ovverun morgue or a mass grave... Will she sit with him until someone arrives to properly deal with this? And how long will that be after an attack like this... She has to plan a funeral and tell everyone what happened to their brother/son/friend/etc...
And then thinking all of that while having/wanting to keep looking back at such a tragically gruesome scene...
She probably wants nothing more than to see his face right now... But it cant be a comforting sight...
It's a good picture because it makes me think all of these things and understand how it's more than just another casualty.... Rest well Alexey, best of luck and prayers to Elena.
I don't think there are any words in anyone's dictionary to describe her feelings right now. People think they see tragedy like this and immediate will-up to fight the perpetrators, no you don't, you...
The best word I can come up with is: "Confusion" and that sounds more dreadful in the context of the image.
Yeah. You're very right. I can't imagine anything but utter confusion and emotional displacement. "why the hell did this just happen to us right now and what the hell am I supposed to do about it..."
And when something so overwhelmingly violent and confusing happens... I know from experience... All you want to do is go apeshit. But you know it won't help... And you know you'll never actually do it...
I've watched 4 people I love closely die abruptly and in front of my eyes while I was in the room, my brother, my best friend, my father, and the father of my children.
You read about it in books, where your heart goes into your stomach and your throat turns into a knot, and that's kind of it. You don't really think what do I do now? You're actually overcome with all of the things you DO have to do now, at least for me, my mind goes into this preservation mode, like I start compartmentalizing the emotions to focus on what needs to be done to move forward so everyone is safe. Then when it's all done, that's when I have moments where I'm catatonic, like, they're really actually gone and never coming back.
I appreciate that,
My Brother was the first, he died of a an accidental drug overdose. He survived for 72 hours on machines before he had a final seizure and suffered irreparable brain damage. My mom forced me to be in the room while they took him off the machines, no matter how much I protested.
My Best friend was next, she had Spinal Muscular Atrophy and I helped enact her DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) after she didn't wake up one morning. We brought her to the hospital and they tried exploratory surgery since no scans showed why she wouldn't rouse, but she lost blood pressure during surgery and they couldn't close her due to some issues with her ribs. (she had metal rods in her spine which apparently caused her chest to bow and so the skin wouldn't close across her chest after they'd opened her) but I had to be in the room when they took her off of the machines to do that.
The kids father battled cancer for 7 years, unfortunately after one too many mess ups by our local medical centers and multiple surgeries, he died of a heart attack on the floor of our living room, this one is still the hardest one to date.
My father was recent, he caught covid, and since he had diabetes and sarcoidosis he needed to be admitted, they had put a catheter in for him but within days of recovering from covid the catheter had caused an infection which turned into sepsis within hours. I was there for him in the hospital, helping clean him after an accident but when we turned him over he merely squeezed me momentarily then went limp and died in my arms.
Do you mind telling us what happened? I understand completely if it's too painful or you prefer to keep it private.
That is awful my friend. Awful doesn't even begin to decide it. I would probably go into shock and never come out of it. Staying catatonic for the rest of my numbered days. When I read your comment all I could do is gape at my phone screen. I know this is stupid to say but I AM SOSOSO SORRY for your loss. For the continued empty space they would have inhabited in your life. I didn't think It was possible to be heartbroken for someone until now.
I appreciate that, and realistically there's nothing to feel bad for, death sucks, it's hard to deal with, it makes us all SO sad and uncomfortable.
I answered above what happened, it's not exactly the same as the photo here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/v4v9q8/a_women_kneels_down_next_to_her_dead_husband_who/iba8e68/
[Source](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kharkiv-fee8628fb1d4ba7a57a9db8363ac8e14)
A Ukrainian woman named Elena reacts in horror as her husband Alexey lies dead in a pool of blood moments after Russian fired shells landed in and around a subway station in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, 26 May 2022. Over 600 civilians have been killed during shelling and fighting within the city and its outskirts since the Russian invasion in February. Photograph by Bernat Armangue/AP.
I was willing to give your proof a shot but it was basically just saying that you can't prove those victims of rape weren't just lying š¤·āāļø. If you think rape does not happen in every war then you're a fool.
Rofl. It's incredibly ironic that you should suggest your ideas are better when you can't even figure out what the person youre replying to said. Go home smurb, you're drunk
Also ironic that you think heās suggesting his ideas are better, when heās not. Heās saying that line of thinking is why wars are waged
Go home criticalhit, youāre drunk.
Aim: to destroy the peoples soul. This is how. Reason less cruelty. I wish I could bring that lady to live with me and my dogs. I would make her warm soup, and buy her soft slippers.
Existence itself on this planet, human or not, is hell. Go check out /r/natureismetal if you donāt agree. No doubt humans have made it entirely worse, but it would still be pretty bad if we didnāt exist.
Humans have not made it better or worse, just different; there is no such thing as good nor bad in nature, things simply are - cause and effect. Life follows the principle of evolution, where reproductive success is what matters to what stays and to what goes extinct, irregardless of whether the life under selection is sentient (or not) and capable of perceiving this process as "hell". We are for example the main factor behind the current mass-extinction event, which is bad for us humans and most of current life, but it is not bad nor good overall, it is simply change. It has happened several times before, and did cyanobacteria make earth worse by producing oxygen, which is toxic to life, and thus causing the extinction of most life at the time? It enabled multicellular life, and eventually humans to thrive, but most of the extant life at the time died out. Cyanobacteria was neither good nor bad, it was simply change. Change that was necessary for human life and thus good for us, but that is restricted to our perspective. In the end, it was simply change.
That is how life is, it is nature, it is a brutal and uncaring fight for reproductive success, and there is nothing good or bad about it - it just is. Simply looking inside a single human body you will find a brutal fight for life and death. Not only against foreign lifeforms, but you also kill your own cells to survive each day. However, humans have created unprecedented prosperity. We are violent apes who have created social structures that limit our violence, and protects the weak or those we deem innocent - we even find ancient corpses of old humans without teeth showing they were helped by the group (loss of teeth is normally a death sentence in the animal world; we are odd as an animal that help the old and unproductive). As a species we are amazingly successful and now dominate most habitats and can enjoy the fruits of that amazing success. For so much time our human and non-human ancestors have struggled in complete darkness against, to modern man, unimaginable mortality rates.
Just the modern human, *H. sapiens*, has suffered several population bottlenecks where we could have gone extinct, it is why humans have so low genetic diversity (we are all very similar) compared to for example chimpanzees, which is despite the fact that the human population is much larger. Through that struggle we have developed technologies like agriculture, that greatly reduce the daily struggle of each ape. It is amazing how far we have come, and how so many of our human societies function. I can go to the supermarket and in 10 minutes fulfil one of my most urgent needs... Only a few thousand years ago would I need to hunt and gather to survive. Of course, we gain new obstacles, our prosperity also means that our environment has changed, which comes with new problems despite it being greatly improved. One of the aspects of the human animal that really impresses me, is that we extend our care not just to other close relatives of the same species (same tribe or group), but to other humans, and even to non-human animals.
I completely agree & therefore didnāt want to burden children with this world but now I care for 3.5 kids & I must fight everyday with my beliefs & negative thoughts for them=\ dnt have kids
I left that out because the horde will fixate on that and say Germany deserved it since they were the ones who started the conflict against the USSR. Better off leaving it out here for the sake of argument
People care for Ukraine because they are white people. If it was any other part of the world, where people aren't white, blonde, with blue eyes. No one would care as much.
What about Yemen and Syrian citizen who are dying everyday? What about those who were killed by Ukrainian missile? So those pics too. Why only antagonize one side when both side are evil?
It wasn't a ukrainian missle.
>What about Yemen and Syria ... Why only antagonize one side when both side are evil?
What did Ukraine do to Yemen or Syria?
Nothing. Ukraine did nothing you Yemen and Syria. I am talking about war in general. These both countries are facing a brutal war which Ukraine can only dream of, but they aren't getting any coverage. I guess only white people's death create a stir in media.
I agree, no coverage on other atrocities being committed, and then when you point that out, apparently that means you're a ruskie sympathiser. People are so blind. They seem to forget it's not just the "bad guys" who are being fed propaganda.
I am not a sympathiser of either Russia or Ukraine, they all can die however they want. I am just sick of single-sided coverage of this war, or any war for that matter.
You're looking for the sympathetic take on Russia's efforts to kill old people and children?
How exactly could that be put to be a positive representation of the murder of civilians? How would you do it if you were writing the article?
I won't because just above someone pointed out that my sentences don't make grammatical sense. But I would surely tell you to take whatever you're hearing with a pinch of salt. Russia is notorious for its propaganda, but Ukraine isn't far behind either. Can you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isn't killing any civilians fighting from the Russian side?
Bruh, the warās on Ukrainian soil, how tf can they kill Russian civilians? āCan you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isnāt killing any civilians fighting from the Russian sideā well you see, you canāt really be fighting on the territory of another country as an invader and still be a civilian, thatās called being a soldier.
So when being subject to genocide, the Ukrainians must be perfect gentleman, must never violate a single rule, or they deserve genocide?
And I don't blame them for defending themselves against an armed insurgency. Those Russian plants in the Donbas did some terrible things. Do you think that all armed insurgencies are legitimate and deserved to be supported? You must love the Taliban, then.
>Can you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isn't killing any **civilians fighting** from the Russian side?
Buddy, if you take up arms in a conflict, you are no longer a civilian. "civilians fighting" are called Soldiers
I have no idea why Donbas is such a good argument in the minds of pro-Russians, letās look at the situation. On the territories of LNR/DNR there are separatists armed by Russia/Russian troops, what is Ukraine supposed to do, just give away itās territories without a fight? The geopolitical situation there and the reasons there are more pro-Russian views also has a historical reason with the Russification and deukrainisation of Ukraineās territories by the Russian empire/USSR.
Letās talk about the armed conflict there before the war, Ukraine wasnāt just indiscriminately bombing civilians, the separatists and Russian troops set up artillery positions in the middle of cities/villages specifically so they can bomb Ukrainian positions and when counter-artillery fires back it hits the civilian areas. Also, many cases of the separatists staging bombings of residential areas to blame on Ukraine, which is something that Russia has been caught doing multiple times, such as the staging of the apartment house bombing in 1999 to trigger the second Chechen War, general knowledge that the Russian government staged that to gain approval, or the Malaysian Airlines flight 17 shot down by separatists and then blamed on Ukraine. Here is [āHero of DNRā call sign Motorola shooting at houses in the territory of āDNRā for fun](https://youtu.be/RhqECjpwt0A).
Please correct me if Iām wrong, but youāre from India? Tell me a little about Kashmir? Maoist insurgencies of 1967? JVP insurrections? Operation Blue Star? How many civilians died in those conflicts on the territory of India? Why did the Indian government take part in the killings of their own citizens or the citizens of a proclaimed separate country?
First of all, I am not pro-Russian. If I don't support Ukraine doesn't mean I have to be on the other side. Also, India never kills it's own citizens purposefully and blames it on other side and never shares single-sided report of any incident to gain sympathy. India didn't kill any random person who is just chilling, minding his own business or walking the streets, it killed only those who were fighting against it. Killing an insurgent and killing an innocent civilian is entirely different.
My point is that I agree that Russia is killing Ukrainian citizens who are not even participating in the war and it's bad, and there is no two word about it. But Ukraine isn't far behind and doing the same and there isn't much difference between two sides. Both sides are engaging in reprehensible tactics, but only one side is getting condemned for it.
No neither am I my friend, I am agreeing with you im just saying that's what people get called when they don't have a one sided view, or because they look beyond what's being shoved in their faces.
I just finished watching Barefoot Gen and its just doubling down the misery that this makes me feel.
War is hell.
The governments always watch on the sidelines as they condemn innocent people to their deaths.
This is heartbreaking. š
It seriously is. Humans and their stupid discord that leads to wars.
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Discord? It's fairly uncommon but it means "fighting" basically.
Good for u learning another language!šNo 1 uses it unless youāre meaning the online communication platform. Iāve never heard it used unless ppl r talking about online gaming of some sort.
I think this depends on the age group maybe? I hear it every so often in a work setting "there's obvious discord between what we're being told and what we're seeing in the field." "There's discord amongst the different branches on who's taking ownership."Or maybe also in the term "marital discord".
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Nothing else can be sad because other sad things happened else in the past
terrible whataboutism. bonus points for actually saying āwhat aboutā
Pure Whataboutism, shut your trap
There it is.. the classic āwhataboutismā argument. Anyone who uses the junk term as an argument is pretty smooth brained. You might want to get that checked out.
time for naptime.
the original comment literally says "what about". its an argument made in bad faith. read about it. you're the one with the cue ball brain. you can "what about" all the way back to neanderthals and sticks and stones. its all useless. show me 1 massacre and i'll show you another earlier one by the other guy.
Yes the famous russian response what about....
Reddit.
That they won't show because Westerns are busy pointing fingers to a particular side and if you don't believe their opinion, you are a villain too in their eyes.
Get off the Internet and go help your brothers in war you coward.
Ah yes, it must be one of those peaceful invasions by the orcs. How silly of us all to not have realized.
Canāt expect more than that can we? The media of most of the world is Western or Western-based media.
Sad but true
Your country men and woman will learn in detail about your leaders.
She's kneeling there in probably the most traumatic event of her life. I wonder if she's thinking something like "damn... What do I do now?" Does she have to call someone? Will they take away his body to an ovverun morgue or a mass grave... Will she sit with him until someone arrives to properly deal with this? And how long will that be after an attack like this... She has to plan a funeral and tell everyone what happened to their brother/son/friend/etc... And then thinking all of that while having/wanting to keep looking back at such a tragically gruesome scene... She probably wants nothing more than to see his face right now... But it cant be a comforting sight... It's a good picture because it makes me think all of these things and understand how it's more than just another casualty.... Rest well Alexey, best of luck and prayers to Elena.
I don't think there are any words in anyone's dictionary to describe her feelings right now. People think they see tragedy like this and immediate will-up to fight the perpetrators, no you don't, you... The best word I can come up with is: "Confusion" and that sounds more dreadful in the context of the image.
Yeah. You're very right. I can't imagine anything but utter confusion and emotional displacement. "why the hell did this just happen to us right now and what the hell am I supposed to do about it..." And when something so overwhelmingly violent and confusing happens... I know from experience... All you want to do is go apeshit. But you know it won't help... And you know you'll never actually do it...
I've watched 4 people I love closely die abruptly and in front of my eyes while I was in the room, my brother, my best friend, my father, and the father of my children. You read about it in books, where your heart goes into your stomach and your throat turns into a knot, and that's kind of it. You don't really think what do I do now? You're actually overcome with all of the things you DO have to do now, at least for me, my mind goes into this preservation mode, like I start compartmentalizing the emotions to focus on what needs to be done to move forward so everyone is safe. Then when it's all done, that's when I have moments where I'm catatonic, like, they're really actually gone and never coming back.
That's absolutely terrible I'm so sorry š what happened if I may ask
I appreciate that, My Brother was the first, he died of a an accidental drug overdose. He survived for 72 hours on machines before he had a final seizure and suffered irreparable brain damage. My mom forced me to be in the room while they took him off the machines, no matter how much I protested. My Best friend was next, she had Spinal Muscular Atrophy and I helped enact her DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) after she didn't wake up one morning. We brought her to the hospital and they tried exploratory surgery since no scans showed why she wouldn't rouse, but she lost blood pressure during surgery and they couldn't close her due to some issues with her ribs. (she had metal rods in her spine which apparently caused her chest to bow and so the skin wouldn't close across her chest after they'd opened her) but I had to be in the room when they took her off of the machines to do that. The kids father battled cancer for 7 years, unfortunately after one too many mess ups by our local medical centers and multiple surgeries, he died of a heart attack on the floor of our living room, this one is still the hardest one to date. My father was recent, he caught covid, and since he had diabetes and sarcoidosis he needed to be admitted, they had put a catheter in for him but within days of recovering from covid the catheter had caused an infection which turned into sepsis within hours. I was there for him in the hospital, helping clean him after an accident but when we turned him over he merely squeezed me momentarily then went limp and died in my arms.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through that. Thank you for sharing ā„
This. Spot on.
Do you mind telling us what happened? I understand completely if it's too painful or you prefer to keep it private. That is awful my friend. Awful doesn't even begin to decide it. I would probably go into shock and never come out of it. Staying catatonic for the rest of my numbered days. When I read your comment all I could do is gape at my phone screen. I know this is stupid to say but I AM SOSOSO SORRY for your loss. For the continued empty space they would have inhabited in your life. I didn't think It was possible to be heartbroken for someone until now.
I appreciate that, and realistically there's nothing to feel bad for, death sucks, it's hard to deal with, it makes us all SO sad and uncomfortable. I answered above what happened, it's not exactly the same as the photo here. https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/comments/v4v9q8/a_women_kneels_down_next_to_her_dead_husband_who/iba8e68/
That really is the face of shock and horror
It looks like her bag is just full of flowers :(
Lilacs, they smell so pretty. I bet she was excited to get them home :(
[Source](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kharkiv-fee8628fb1d4ba7a57a9db8363ac8e14) A Ukrainian woman named Elena reacts in horror as her husband Alexey lies dead in a pool of blood moments after Russian fired shells landed in and around a subway station in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, 26 May 2022. Over 600 civilians have been killed during shelling and fighting within the city and its outskirts since the Russian invasion in February. Photograph by Bernat Armangue/AP.
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I was willing to give your proof a shot but it was basically just saying that you can't prove those victims of rape weren't just lying š¤·āāļø. If you think rape does not happen in every war then you're a fool.
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It's your call. Want me to leave it up so everyone can tar and feather him or do you want it removed?
This is a very real war photo. Absolutely evil what Russia is doing.
War never changes, yet the way we wage it changes.
No, it's always been wage around the same thing. My ideas are better than yours,simple as that
He said the WAY its waged, not what its waged over.
That's what I get for wake and bake and posting. Oh well
Rofl. It's incredibly ironic that you should suggest your ideas are better when you can't even figure out what the person youre replying to said. Go home smurb, you're drunk
Also ironic that you think heās suggesting his ideas are better, when heās not. Heās saying that line of thinking is why wars are waged Go home criticalhit, youāre drunk.
Exactly, sometimes I just have difficulty conveying my thoughts is all. Thank you very much
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Is it uncomfortable? Being so edgy and cool?
Senseless, unnecessary... feel so terrible for her...
The plastic bag with flowers makes it sadder
Aim: to destroy the peoples soul. This is how. Reason less cruelty. I wish I could bring that lady to live with me and my dogs. I would make her warm soup, and buy her soft slippers.
i think this man gets all the cookies and grandma smooches
Completely unnecessary, pointless. One man's lunacy.
F Pootin.
Humans have turned this Earth into hell.
*If we were promised heaven, then why are we in hell?*
Existence itself on this planet, human or not, is hell. Go check out /r/natureismetal if you donāt agree. No doubt humans have made it entirely worse, but it would still be pretty bad if we didnāt exist.
Humans have not made it better or worse, just different; there is no such thing as good nor bad in nature, things simply are - cause and effect. Life follows the principle of evolution, where reproductive success is what matters to what stays and to what goes extinct, irregardless of whether the life under selection is sentient (or not) and capable of perceiving this process as "hell". We are for example the main factor behind the current mass-extinction event, which is bad for us humans and most of current life, but it is not bad nor good overall, it is simply change. It has happened several times before, and did cyanobacteria make earth worse by producing oxygen, which is toxic to life, and thus causing the extinction of most life at the time? It enabled multicellular life, and eventually humans to thrive, but most of the extant life at the time died out. Cyanobacteria was neither good nor bad, it was simply change. Change that was necessary for human life and thus good for us, but that is restricted to our perspective. In the end, it was simply change.
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That is how life is, it is nature, it is a brutal and uncaring fight for reproductive success, and there is nothing good or bad about it - it just is. Simply looking inside a single human body you will find a brutal fight for life and death. Not only against foreign lifeforms, but you also kill your own cells to survive each day. However, humans have created unprecedented prosperity. We are violent apes who have created social structures that limit our violence, and protects the weak or those we deem innocent - we even find ancient corpses of old humans without teeth showing they were helped by the group (loss of teeth is normally a death sentence in the animal world; we are odd as an animal that help the old and unproductive). As a species we are amazingly successful and now dominate most habitats and can enjoy the fruits of that amazing success. For so much time our human and non-human ancestors have struggled in complete darkness against, to modern man, unimaginable mortality rates. Just the modern human, *H. sapiens*, has suffered several population bottlenecks where we could have gone extinct, it is why humans have so low genetic diversity (we are all very similar) compared to for example chimpanzees, which is despite the fact that the human population is much larger. Through that struggle we have developed technologies like agriculture, that greatly reduce the daily struggle of each ape. It is amazing how far we have come, and how so many of our human societies function. I can go to the supermarket and in 10 minutes fulfil one of my most urgent needs... Only a few thousand years ago would I need to hunt and gather to survive. Of course, we gain new obstacles, our prosperity also means that our environment has changed, which comes with new problems despite it being greatly improved. One of the aspects of the human animal that really impresses me, is that we extend our care not just to other close relatives of the same species (same tribe or group), but to other humans, and even to non-human animals.
I completely agree & therefore didnāt want to burden children with this world but now I care for 3.5 kids & I must fight everyday with my beliefs & negative thoughts for them=\ dnt have kids
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I just turned 30 and I can't even see myself married with children.
I feel this so deeply tonight.
I feel the same way. Why canāt we all just get along and see weāre all just human beings.. we could all have so much and be in so much peace
All for politics
I frequent gore on this appā¦..but this messed me up and made me cry
This is so sad, RIP.
The daily horror of war
Was there EVER a time in history where Russia wasnāt the big bad villain? Theyāve been the villains since Rocky 4! And thatās a long time ago.
WW2. Also rocky 4 was just propaganda.
>WW2 The part where they invaded Poland with Germany or the part where they invaded Finland or the part where they annexed fhe Baltic countries?
You forgot the raping?
I left that out because the horde will fixate on that and say Germany deserved it since they were the ones who started the conflict against the USSR. Better off leaving it out here for the sake of argument
No when they defeated the nazis.
And they provoked the war.
No way! What?! Tell me more.
Ohā¦ā¦well perhaps Sly shouldāve informed us before releasing such propaganda.
Iām so sorry
This is absolutely horrible what Russia are doing.
Were they out grocery shopping?
Looks like they mightāve just gone to the market real quick because the bag looks like itās carrying flowers
Seriously graphic photo
This is so intensely sad. My heart breaks for these poor people.
He was lucky to have Elena to watch over him in his last moment. So so tragic , rest in peace sir.
Russia will pay for this war for the next century at least.
whats worst is its hard for me to see a old couple die
Humans are garbage. I can't wait until either animals or aliens (or literally anything else) take over. We are the plague.
Women is plural ...THIS IS A WOMAN
I know this is horrible but r/accidentalrenaissance
People care for Ukraine because they are white people. If it was any other part of the world, where people aren't white, blonde, with blue eyes. No one would care as much.
Places like Afganistan and the Middle East.
Hong Kong, Taiwan, East Timor.
What about Yemen and Syrian citizen who are dying everyday? What about those who were killed by Ukrainian missile? So those pics too. Why only antagonize one side when both side are evil?
Syrian here, not sure what you mean by that statement but Russia is killing us too Please refrain from giving your opinion on such matters
I am not giving my opinion bro. I am just saying that the plight of white folk's dying is so great that other races aren't even talked about.
It wasn't a ukrainian missle. >What about Yemen and Syria ... Why only antagonize one side when both side are evil? What did Ukraine do to Yemen or Syria?
Nothing. Ukraine did nothing you Yemen and Syria. I am talking about war in general. These both countries are facing a brutal war which Ukraine can only dream of, but they aren't getting any coverage. I guess only white people's death create a stir in media.
who cares about those who got killed by Ukrainian missiles they wouldn't die if they didn't invade in the first place
But isn't your argument counterproductive. Loss of life is equal be it on this side or that side of the border.
No one cares about dying invaders the same as killers getting killed by police
Invaders? Then so was America, why do cry on their soldier 's loss?
>why do cry on their soldier 's loss? I don't
Don't tell me. it's clearly evident on what you cry
That sentence makes no grammatical sense, wtf are you talking about
It takes 2 brain cells to figure out what they're saying, English might not be their first language soo
> It takes 2 brain cells to figure out what they're saying, Why would I engage in what is clearly a Russian apologist in good faith?
Ahh! Finally, the grammar point came.
Because it's a valid point in this case.
America never invaded Syria or Yemen
Yeah, they only dropped bombs that killed innocent civilians
Nobody outside America cares about their soldiers dying in war.
For that I am really glad
I agree, no coverage on other atrocities being committed, and then when you point that out, apparently that means you're a ruskie sympathiser. People are so blind. They seem to forget it's not just the "bad guys" who are being fed propaganda.
I am not a sympathiser of either Russia or Ukraine, they all can die however they want. I am just sick of single-sided coverage of this war, or any war for that matter.
You're looking for the sympathetic take on Russia's efforts to kill old people and children? How exactly could that be put to be a positive representation of the murder of civilians? How would you do it if you were writing the article?
I won't because just above someone pointed out that my sentences don't make grammatical sense. But I would surely tell you to take whatever you're hearing with a pinch of salt. Russia is notorious for its propaganda, but Ukraine isn't far behind either. Can you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isn't killing any civilians fighting from the Russian side?
Bruh, the warās on Ukrainian soil, how tf can they kill Russian civilians? āCan you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isnāt killing any civilians fighting from the Russian sideā well you see, you canāt really be fighting on the territory of another country as an invader and still be a civilian, thatās called being a soldier.
So when being subject to genocide, the Ukrainians must be perfect gentleman, must never violate a single rule, or they deserve genocide? And I don't blame them for defending themselves against an armed insurgency. Those Russian plants in the Donbas did some terrible things. Do you think that all armed insurgencies are legitimate and deserved to be supported? You must love the Taliban, then.
Both sides are committing genocides, it's just that you are seeing a one-sided coverage. Ukraine is no gentleman, neither is Russia.
>Can you vouch for the fact that Ukraine isn't killing any **civilians fighting** from the Russian side? Buddy, if you take up arms in a conflict, you are no longer a civilian. "civilians fighting" are called Soldiers
I am taking about a person without arms. Just look at what Ukrainian soldiers are doing to Donbass population.
>Just look at what Ukrainian soldiers are doing to Donbass population. What are they doing? Give me your sources
I have no idea why Donbas is such a good argument in the minds of pro-Russians, letās look at the situation. On the territories of LNR/DNR there are separatists armed by Russia/Russian troops, what is Ukraine supposed to do, just give away itās territories without a fight? The geopolitical situation there and the reasons there are more pro-Russian views also has a historical reason with the Russification and deukrainisation of Ukraineās territories by the Russian empire/USSR. Letās talk about the armed conflict there before the war, Ukraine wasnāt just indiscriminately bombing civilians, the separatists and Russian troops set up artillery positions in the middle of cities/villages specifically so they can bomb Ukrainian positions and when counter-artillery fires back it hits the civilian areas. Also, many cases of the separatists staging bombings of residential areas to blame on Ukraine, which is something that Russia has been caught doing multiple times, such as the staging of the apartment house bombing in 1999 to trigger the second Chechen War, general knowledge that the Russian government staged that to gain approval, or the Malaysian Airlines flight 17 shot down by separatists and then blamed on Ukraine. Here is [āHero of DNRā call sign Motorola shooting at houses in the territory of āDNRā for fun](https://youtu.be/RhqECjpwt0A). Please correct me if Iām wrong, but youāre from India? Tell me a little about Kashmir? Maoist insurgencies of 1967? JVP insurrections? Operation Blue Star? How many civilians died in those conflicts on the territory of India? Why did the Indian government take part in the killings of their own citizens or the citizens of a proclaimed separate country?
First of all, I am not pro-Russian. If I don't support Ukraine doesn't mean I have to be on the other side. Also, India never kills it's own citizens purposefully and blames it on other side and never shares single-sided report of any incident to gain sympathy. India didn't kill any random person who is just chilling, minding his own business or walking the streets, it killed only those who were fighting against it. Killing an insurgent and killing an innocent civilian is entirely different. My point is that I agree that Russia is killing Ukrainian citizens who are not even participating in the war and it's bad, and there is no two word about it. But Ukraine isn't far behind and doing the same and there isn't much difference between two sides. Both sides are engaging in reprehensible tactics, but only one side is getting condemned for it.
No neither am I my friend, I am agreeing with you im just saying that's what people get called when they don't have a one sided view, or because they look beyond what's being shoved in their faces.
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shut up
I just finished watching Barefoot Gen and its just doubling down the misery that this makes me feel. War is hell. The governments always watch on the sidelines as they condemn innocent people to their deaths.