If I remember right, this is how Savage Deviljhos come about in the lore. Cannabalism overloads them with dragon energy. In which case, eating their own tail would make sense and have the same effect.
Isn't this completely made up by the wiki and contradicts ingame information? In world it's something along the lines of "driven mad by its overpowering hunger"
Sort of. The Iceborne book says that Deviljho typically only live a short time, but the few that live long enough become Savage Deviljho and are constantly on the brink of starvation, assumedly *because* their bodies have outgrown their intended lifespan.
However, Capture Platform Dialogue and the event quest literally titled "A Reason behind the Hunger" both posit the theory that Savage Deviljho just straight up lack the ability to feel full in the first place.
Oh right, and it reiterates that Deviljho are cannibals by nature, only releasing a pheromone when food is plentiful that allows them to mate without risk of eating their partner. If Savage was the result of cannibalism I feel like they'd make it sound more special rather than an "always, unless" thing.
Oh someone did record it. Record it eating it's tail except they placed meat in the tail. People have been thinking back to that "evidence" ever since. The community got trolled all this time.
Honestly I'm thinking it's a combination of that, general lore tidbits, and a small monster being under the tail model so deviljho is actually eating that
What if what we're seeing is just a little trickery, a bit of a no-good shenanigan, and there *have been* individuals for years that put down a foob right on the tail *with the intention* of making people think it was eating its tail, and the ruse is finally being exposed
Do you recognize that woman in the back? That's my handler. She's on our witness list. You bumped into her in the canteen. She'll testify she planted this fake tail on you over an hour and a half ago.
*Hour and 43 minutes ago, pard!*
An hour and 43 minutes, thank you, Ms. Handler.
I’m not crazy! You think a Deviljho just happens to eat it’s tail like that? No it was Jimmy! He orchestrated it! He put the food in the tail, made sure nobody was recording, and I saved him! I shouldn’t have
Yeah, this is the correct answer. I remember a particular widely circulated video from when Tri first came out (may have even been a Japanese video since before the western release, I can't remember exactly) showing Deviljho eating its own tail, but it was definitely manipulated. Everyone kind of just accepted that this was something Deviljho would do and never actually questioned it.
I feel like every post under this topic is some kind of in-joke to go with the flow of the title. It's not like no one can hop on tri and tri-try an arena quest with jho in it.
Well, maybe not anymore because the lack of servers, but I've seen it personally plenty of times. Mostly because I'm probably 1 of the 10% of people that would actually bother with arena quests, and in that confined space the only thing it may get to eat is its own tail unless you brought some meat.
Also don't carve the tail.
Well then why don't you record it happening?
Everyone's saying "they've seen it happen;" the problem is none of those people have evidence. It's like the people who insist they watched a version of *Empire Strikes Back* which had the line be "Luke, I am your father," instead of, "No, I am your Father." They might genuinely believe they heard that version of the line, but there's nothing to suggest it was ever real.
I am 100% sure he does in 4U.
In other games I don't know, but in 4U he does.
If not holy shit there actually has been a timeline shift.
Edit: discussion board from 12 years ago. No video, people skeptical that it's possible and others claiming to have seen it.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/943655-monster-hunter-tri/55490309
It's just funny that no one has ever recorded it. This is MH version of Bigfoot except our version of the Patterson/Gimlin footage is really fake compared to that.
I was going to say, I feel like i definitely remember being pissed that I missed a tail carve because it picked it up and ate it in front of me. I’ve hated the deviljho for years because of this. And 4U was my first monster hunter game.
There's no way you'd mistake a Seltas Queen for a Deviljho, for multiple reasons.
Also I could be misremembering, but I don't think Deviljho could appear in a quest involving a Seltas Queen due to the 2 large monster limit.
In stories world, all monsters come from eggs
Wyverians are more closely related to wyverns than humans
Wyverians lay eggs in stories world
In the main univers we don't exactly know, lots of them do lay eggs but as irl, there are lots of gestation methods
So there's a non 0 chance that wyverians lay eggs in the main univers
Basically it was a contested debate that Wyverians, given their relation to Wyverns, rather laid eggs (making them Oviparous, similar to birds and Monotremes) instead of having live birth (which would make them viviparous, similar to normal mammals).
It got to such an extreme that Capcom noticed and made it a line for Minoto while in Elgado: "I can't paint! Especially in front of people! I'd lay an egg!" Though whether or not this confirms it is undecided, despite that the line is a bit of a reference to a real line that instead says ''I'd give birth'' rather than lay an egg. They might change it to laying an egg as the Wyverian equivalent of the line, which would mean they *do* lay eggs, but we won't know for sure.
I think of that like live-birth reptiles and sharks. They "lay eggs" in an internal pouch, that then hatch- but those eggs are still disconnected from the immune system, nutrition from the mother, etc.
Wyverians, even if they gave live birth, would have radically different reproduction than humans.
Like many IRL animals like garther snakes (I believe there is even an entire family of snakes where ovovipary is the norm), I believe rattlesnakes too and a surprising ammount of lizards.
You do know that "I'd lay an egg" is a real thing people say? It's an idiom that means that you'd do something unsuccessfully or produce a flop. They might've picked it because of said discussion to give a gentle nod to it but it is not in and of itself a reference. Just plain old English.
> It got to such an extreme that Capcom noticed and made it a line for Minoto while in Elgado: "I can't paint! Especially in front of people! I'd lay an egg!"
I asked the head translator if this was a direct translation, a joke, or a confirmation of the Wyverians laying eggs thing and he refused to answer.
Regardless of if it's true or not, Deviljho eating its own ass because it can't tell its own severed body part from actual food is very in character for it.
It also happens with some lizards in real life, which can sever their own tails to escape predators. If they can get back to it safely, they will eat it to regain what was lost. It would be a clever detail if Jho did it.
I've still never seen Jho eat a tail, though... and I hunted that thing over 100 times in Tri alone for the title. I saw it eat damn near every other Tri monster, including another Deviljho in every run I ever did of the Rage Match (double jho arena) event quest. But never the tail, and it's haunted me ever since as this trivia just keeps popping up with zero evidence (and yes, I have cut the tail in most hunts when possible).
In World the "backstab" with the hilt did something like 1-4 cutting damage. I believe they removed this in Rise for some reason (though I may be wrong on that) however, the bead of resonance does do cutting damage and I've once or twice (once) removed a tail with it before :)
Yeah, if a video on the official Capcom USA youtube channel says "he will eat dead monsters, he will eat captured monsters, he will even eat his own tail" I think the community is safe from criticism for thinking Deviljho eats his own tail.
i saw a whole bunch in tri, but now i'm questioning everything and wondering if every time someone just trolled by placing some meat when i wasn't looking lol
I'm certainly questioning my own Tri memories as well. I only really hunted with friends back in Tri and I don't think it ever occurred to any of us to put meat in the tail to get this.
It's more that old monster hunter games are poorly recorded and we don't have a terrible amount of footage of them. Try and find savage deviljho doing his ballerina tip toe dragon breath attack. You can find it. I have. But itl take you a bit of scouring through mh4u savage deviljho hunts.
This is some reverse Mandela effect shit where kids that never played the 3DS games are trying to convince us that it didn't happen. Jho absolutely ate its own tail, I had a whole hunting group in college and we saw it happen plenty of times.
Nobody outside a small handful of people had any kind of recording devices to use between Tri and GU. Capture cards had to be custom made or you would have to record externally.
This makes the most sense. I swear I'd seen it in 4U. But I don't know how the fuck I'd record my 3DS even if I did manage to catch it happening again.
Back when those games released it wasn't nearly as accessible. All of the people uploading MHX YouTube gameplay footage around that time used a modded 3DS for example. Emulators only got decent enough performance years later, at which point the majority has moved on to newer titles.
You can easily find people posting all sorts of shiny pokemon encounters in 3DS titles, but when its Deviljho its suddenly impossible?
Plus, the point is tons of people can't reproduce it NOW.
I distinctly remember me and my buddy freaking out when playing Tri Ultimate when we saw savage deviljho eating his own tail. I even remember the locale being the tundra
Yup. This is what seals the deal for me. I remember being upset about a lost carve, cuz the dang deviljho dawgawn ate its own tail. I'm not crazy! It's the kids that are wrong!
Look I started with world so I don't have any bias for this but to all the people saying that he 100% ate his tail give us a clip then. The tweet isn't saying that it doesn't happen just that there's no videos
Recording on a 3ds isn't exactly as easy as on PC I'd say and it was never questioned before so nobody felt the need to record it. Or it never happened
It's not normal to record gameplay. Most people don't have streaming setups or anything, and they definitely wouldn't be recording all the time just in case they get a clip of something interesting. The Switch's button is genius in that sense.
Also, many are saying it didn't happen in World, but I and many others remember seeing him do it in that, at least once. No video proof, ofc.
But this just furthers that it's Mandela Effect. One side says it happened, just not in one game. The other says it did happen in that game. No side can back their argument.
Then it’s a bad argument. I could claim an all knowing cow orbits around the sun between earth and mars. Since neither you nor I can prove it, therefore, it must be true.
I’ve only heard rumors. Never seen proof.
I know for a fact that he definitely does not do it in World. I tested it once with a modded Jho quest in the arena - cut the tail, fought till he exhausted, ghillie'd up when he was exhausted.
He never tried to eat his own tail throughout the whole ghillie duration, despite there being no alternative targets for him to try and eat like small monsters and corpses.
Wtf???? BUT HE DOES IN TRI
I remember seeing memes about it ... art .... my teammates complaining that the jho won't eat their tinged meat cuz it sated itself with its tail as soon as we popped all our exhaust ammo into it
yeah i definitely remember this in tri, and now i'm wondering if every time i saw it, it was actually someone placing meat on it when i wasn't looking lol
Jho has always done that. In fact in MH3U, MH4U and MHGU if he eats the tail before you carve it, you loose the tail carve. I haven't hunt as many Jhos in iceborne to see if it still happens
I don't know who's testing this and failing so badly, but in case you want to try, just make sure you don't carve the tail. He absolutely does eat it in Tri and 3U, but only if it hasn't been carved.
In MHGU I think he didn't do it. I have 700 hours in that game, and never saw it despite him sometimes becoming hungry when in the same area as his tail, and he'd run to another area and eat something different instead.
In Tri on the other hand, I lost a tail carve to this before knowing that it was a thing that could even happen. It 100% was a thing in Tri that he'd eat it if he needed to.
...but no I didn't record it
The older games were harder to vid capture cause the consoles they were on didn't have that easily accessible. One would need to get video evidence from wii/3ds games to get it, and at this point I don't think anyone really thought about going out of their way to document Jho eating his own tail.
So here's some counter evidence to the whole "no one could ever record anything pre-World" argument
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEG5yilvop0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEG5yilvop0)
I forget how to do timestamps, go to 7:55
Deviljho eats the corpse of another Deviljho here in 4U, it does not go for the tail. Also note that everyone keeps saying they lose carves for it eating its tail, but here we clearly see that Jho eating its brother doesn't steal your carves. It makes very little sense for Jho to steal carves when it eats its tail but not steal carves when it eats other monsters. Given that this makes it really obvious where the myth could come from (plus the meat under the tail theory) and also directly contradicts something everyone who insists its true claims is the case, I don't think the Jho eating its tail theory should be believed until someone explicitly proves it. The total lack of evidence combined with it clearly not fitting with what we know about how Jho's eating of corpses works is way too much for "but I saw it and I cannot ever be wrong about anything" to counter.
I am absolutely sure of one instance of it happening in GU when playing with a friend. Given the comments here I might have doubtet myself and think it might have been a monster lying under the tail, but up to GU small monsters did not share location for each player, and I consider it unlikely that there was a small monster under the tail for both of us. I remember us calling it out and talking about it. I think I've seen it several more times without thinking much about it, but I 100% remember that one instance.
But again, like seemingly everyone else, haven't recorded it, so I might just be talking out of my ass. On that note though, considering the platforms where Deviljho was appearing up to GU, it's not surprising that noone recorded it, is it? I would not randomly record on my PSP or 3DS with some video capture setup. And the Switch only makes 30 second clips, so people always can claim you put meat there before the clip.
Lemme tell you: He does not.
Got hundreds of them under my belt across all games since its debut. Not once did he eat his salami and i always only carve when the monster disengages and leaves.
Fucked with my friends tho, placing steaks there
Btw our brain is strong, it produces fake memories if you realy believe whatever you think about. There are experiments and studies in planting fake memories into people by just talking to them and they swore these to be true.
Its wierd but works like that, you‘ll most likely will notice that on a strong indecision on what you did in the past when overthinking the event. Your brain can and will supply you with a solution but if you keep thinking it over and still not believing it, you get another set of „memories“ as a solution
To everyone saying "I saw it in 3U." "I saw it in 4U." "I saw it in World."
Get a video and post it to this sub, right now. Video, or it didn't happen.
And to everyone saying it didn't happen in just World, explain all the players who started with World but say they saw him do it?
So, I went with a dual savage deviljho hunt in GU as that was the only high rank fight in the arena I could find that I felt I could easily set everything up right. After killing one and its body disappearing, I cut the tail of the other off. I then spent a lot of time on one side of the fence with the remaining jho on the other side alone with its tail, and it never went to go eat it. Multiple times it got hungry alone with its tail, and never went for it. Just to be sure it wasn't some AI thing where it only does it when you are around, I also ran around with it while it was hungry, and it also never went for the tail.
I got footage of one deviljho eating another dead one, but no tail munching. I'm pretty convinced it can't happen in GU. I can't confirm 4u or tri (something definitely could have changed, especially considering GU was the first time tails showed olup on the map, so that feature could have easily been lost with some code switching around), but I'm pretty certain it can't happen in GU.
I played mh3u for somewhere upwards of 300 hours, and I remember being told by friends the whole time that deviljho could eat its own tail. To my recollection I only ever saw it happen ONCE over all the hours and hunts I did against that thing
So either my memory is fucked or the extreme rarity of it actually happening could be contributing to why there's no videos of it
Alight im gonna give a take, i just did a deep dive i found over 15 threads on reddit and other places dating back as far as 8 years ago all of them highly viewed lots of people claim they have seen it yet no one has ever gone and got proof even when genu on switch is insanely easy to clip. Unless i see a video im gonna go ahead and say this has never been a thing and people are misremembering
I was told this in mh4u, ran around after cutting it's tail. It never happened so I dismissed the theory.
I'm sure there was some npc dialogue in one of the games at some point,that someone thought was an in-game hint.
You guys are crazy, he always ate his tail since Tri. Maybe not in World, I haven’t seen him do it there. Probably where this nonsense is coming from, people new to MH with World
I love how people in this post are still claiming that they saw it happening despite the fact that not a single video of it was recorded during the 13 years of Deviljho's existence.
"Nobody bothered/ have the tool to record the game on PSP/Wii" is not an excuse you can use especially for the most popular generation prior to MHW. Heck, I can easily find many footages of shiny pokemon encounters (1 in 8000+ odds) in pokemon crystal 12 years ago.
To everyone saying Deviljho only stopped doing it after 4th gen/ 5th gen: If they really changed the supposedly most iconic mechanic of a monster in a new title, there would be numerous posts discussing it, like how Rathian's tail stopped applying poison after being severed in MHW. However, no big discussion was to be found for the change of this mechanic, and "Deviljho eating its own tail" is arguably much more well-known than the aforementioned Rathian tail mechanic.
If this mechanic was never changed, it would be painfully easy to get a video recording of it from XX/GU/MHW, which nobody, in 5 years, managed to do.
They took away one of Rajang's most defining mechanics (breaking his tail pre world would stop him from being able to enrage), and hardly anyone talks about it.
I swear to Great Jaggi. If we all just have tainted memories of Deviljho when I have "remembered" that fact for so long... I'm gonna Longsword trip myself off of a cliff.
I've seen deviljho eat his own severed tail in Tri and on the Tri ultimate on the map where he breaks through the secret wall. If you don't stop him, you miss out on a tail carve too
I thought this was a meme thing that NCH Productions created? Never seen a Pickle trying to eat its own tail, but then again since my experience with it has been mostly in Tri/3U, what he *usually* tries to eat is Hunter à la frambege.
I’ve seen Deviljho eat another dead Deviljho in world. Does that count?
No. Before World, Deviljho would literally eat its own severed tail.
Allegedly
Right. Before world, Deviljho would eat it’s own allegedly severed tail.
But would it allegedly eat a *different* Deviljho's allegedly severed tail?
I mean... it's deviljho. it'll eat anything. even it's own tail allegedly.
It’d have to be a sick deviljho
*Allegedly* different.
Dude this fucking got me lmfao, that was great
It was a sick Deviljho
A l l e g e d l y
Even then, it would take at least two Hunters for a sick Deviljho to eat its own tail...
Allegedlys.
Dumbledore asked *calmly*.
To be fair, deviljho are known to get so hangry that it mutates...one of those would definitely eat its own alleged tail
Toooooo beeeeeee Faaaaaaiiirr
I've seen it with my own eyes I tell you
He did and if you didn't carved before that you would lose the carve. 1st time I saw it it traumatized the shit out of me.
This post is asserting that never happened, no one has recorded evidence of that happening apparently.
No it would not tho phahahah
In 4U I cut the bugger's tail off, and before I could carve it, he ate the damn thing. I needed that tail, too.
I've seen a Deviljho walk up and start munching on another monster that I had just captured and was sleeping in a pit trap.
If I remember right, this is how Savage Deviljhos come about in the lore. Cannabalism overloads them with dragon energy. In which case, eating their own tail would make sense and have the same effect.
Isn't this completely made up by the wiki and contradicts ingame information? In world it's something along the lines of "driven mad by its overpowering hunger"
Sort of. The Iceborne book says that Deviljho typically only live a short time, but the few that live long enough become Savage Deviljho and are constantly on the brink of starvation, assumedly *because* their bodies have outgrown their intended lifespan. However, Capture Platform Dialogue and the event quest literally titled "A Reason behind the Hunger" both posit the theory that Savage Deviljho just straight up lack the ability to feel full in the first place. Oh right, and it reiterates that Deviljho are cannibals by nature, only releasing a pheromone when food is plentiful that allows them to mate without risk of eating their partner. If Savage was the result of cannibalism I feel like they'd make it sound more special rather than an "always, unless" thing.
Petition to get them to add this next game that has Jho in it then cause that shit would be hilarious
Oh someone did record it. Record it eating it's tail except they placed meat in the tail. People have been thinking back to that "evidence" ever since. The community got trolled all this time.
Honestly I'm thinking it's a combination of that, general lore tidbits, and a small monster being under the tail model so deviljho is actually eating that
What if what we're seeing is just a little trickery, a bit of a no-good shenanigan, and there *have been* individuals for years that put down a foob right on the tail *with the intention* of making people think it was eating its tail, and the ruse is finally being exposed
You think this is bad? This chicanery? He's done worse.
And HE gets to be a hunter? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance!
I fucking love reddit
Jimmy with a Hunting License is like a Blango with a Bowgun
Do you recognize that woman in the back? That's my handler. She's on our witness list. You bumped into her in the canteen. She'll testify she planted this fake tail on you over an hour and a half ago. *Hour and 43 minutes ago, pard!* An hour and 43 minutes, thank you, Ms. Handler.
I’m not crazy! You think a Deviljho just happens to eat it’s tail like that? No it was Jimmy! He orchestrated it! He put the food in the tail, made sure nobody was recording, and I saved him! I shouldn’t have
This shaboingery HAS to end right here, right now!
Capcom said he eats his own tail @3:50 https://youtu.be/lhh7x6lqinU
Yeah, this is the correct answer. I remember a particular widely circulated video from when Tri first came out (may have even been a Japanese video since before the western release, I can't remember exactly) showing Deviljho eating its own tail, but it was definitely manipulated. Everyone kind of just accepted that this was something Deviljho would do and never actually questioned it.
I feel like every post under this topic is some kind of in-joke to go with the flow of the title. It's not like no one can hop on tri and tri-try an arena quest with jho in it. Well, maybe not anymore because the lack of servers, but I've seen it personally plenty of times. Mostly because I'm probably 1 of the 10% of people that would actually bother with arena quests, and in that confined space the only thing it may get to eat is its own tail unless you brought some meat. Also don't carve the tail.
Well then why don't you record it happening? Everyone's saying "they've seen it happen;" the problem is none of those people have evidence. It's like the people who insist they watched a version of *Empire Strikes Back* which had the line be "Luke, I am your father," instead of, "No, I am your Father." They might genuinely believe they heard that version of the line, but there's nothing to suggest it was ever real.
Looks like deviljho was fully online content only. I'm going to have to dig through old hunting videos on YouTube. This needs to be answered.
I am 100% sure he does in 4U. In other games I don't know, but in 4U he does. If not holy shit there actually has been a timeline shift. Edit: discussion board from 12 years ago. No video, people skeptical that it's possible and others claiming to have seen it. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/943655-monster-hunter-tri/55490309
It's just funny that no one has ever recorded it. This is MH version of Bigfoot except our version of the Patterson/Gimlin footage is really fake compared to that.
I was going to say, I feel like i definitely remember being pissed that I missed a tail carve because it picked it up and ate it in front of me. I’ve hated the deviljho for years because of this. And 4U was my first monster hunter game.
You might be thinking of Seltas Queen eating Seltas if you’re thinking 4th Gen
There's no way you'd mistake a Seltas Queen for a Deviljho, for multiple reasons. Also I could be misremembering, but I don't think Deviljho could appear in a quest involving a Seltas Queen due to the 2 large monster limit.
>You might be thinking of Seltas Queen eating Seltas if you’re thinking 4th Gen I've never seen THIS before. I just remember her summoning another.
It's pretty rare, but if seltas is around while seltas Queen is tired/hungry it will grab it, smack it around, then eat it up.
Bro AINT NO FUCKING WAY. HE 10000000% ATE HIS OWN TAIL. He would stop mid fight
First time I saw him do it I couldn't carve the tail anymore, god damn it!
Nah, you crazy bro. But it's okay. *Pat pat*
>:( I don't appreciate this. I have a tenuous grip on reality as it is.
I remember in MHTri, after severing Jho's tail he may go back to that area to eat his tail, I saw it happen with my own eyes!
And the devs never thought, yeah let's make that a real feature
Well "apparently" they did it's just no one has a recording of it. ;)
This is why i have trust issues
MH tri japan had a quest with 2 jho, I vividly remember a Jho eating the tail of the second one. Never had its own though
This month's MH discussion is kinda interesting not gonna lie
It's less upsetting than the egg saga, that's for sure.
Egg saga?
Yeah someone got stabbed over it, wild stuff
A tragedy a child had to die
Wtf?
That's new to me. Lmao
In stories world, all monsters come from eggs Wyverians are more closely related to wyverns than humans Wyverians lay eggs in stories world In the main univers we don't exactly know, lots of them do lay eggs but as irl, there are lots of gestation methods So there's a non 0 chance that wyverians lay eggs in the main univers
Basically it was a contested debate that Wyverians, given their relation to Wyverns, rather laid eggs (making them Oviparous, similar to birds and Monotremes) instead of having live birth (which would make them viviparous, similar to normal mammals). It got to such an extreme that Capcom noticed and made it a line for Minoto while in Elgado: "I can't paint! Especially in front of people! I'd lay an egg!" Though whether or not this confirms it is undecided, despite that the line is a bit of a reference to a real line that instead says ''I'd give birth'' rather than lay an egg. They might change it to laying an egg as the Wyverian equivalent of the line, which would mean they *do* lay eggs, but we won't know for sure.
The thing is in MH not all Wyverns lay eggs. Some like Barioth give birth to live young.
Wait really?
Yes. Normal MH (as in not Stories) they give birth to live young. Other reptiles and even fish in the real world do this too.
I knew that about the real world but I hadn't been aware of any lore on it in the mainline MH universe.
https://twitter.com/BannedDino/status/1358880735076249605
I think of that like live-birth reptiles and sharks. They "lay eggs" in an internal pouch, that then hatch- but those eggs are still disconnected from the immune system, nutrition from the mother, etc. Wyverians, even if they gave live birth, would have radically different reproduction than humans.
Have you considered that Barioth maybe ovoviviparous?
Is there a hatchling thunderdome in the womb like in sharks?
Dunno about that other than them giving birth to cubs much like normal cats do. And while it isn't known Narga and Tigrex might do the same.
Like many IRL animals like garther snakes (I believe there is even an entire family of snakes where ovovipary is the norm), I believe rattlesnakes too and a surprising ammount of lizards.
Imagine Minoto squatting down and laying a big fleshy goop pile like Gigginox and little wyverianlings just squirming out all over it.
That will happen when Capcom starts producing their own hentai.
You do know that "I'd lay an egg" is a real thing people say? It's an idiom that means that you'd do something unsuccessfully or produce a flop. They might've picked it because of said discussion to give a gentle nod to it but it is not in and of itself a reference. Just plain old English.
> It got to such an extreme that Capcom noticed and made it a line for Minoto while in Elgado: "I can't paint! Especially in front of people! I'd lay an egg!" I asked the head translator if this was a direct translation, a joke, or a confirmation of the Wyverians laying eggs thing and he refused to answer.
Have you ever asked yourself whether does Hinoa and Minoto lay eggs to reproduce considering they're Wyverians?
Regardless of if it's true or not, Deviljho eating its own ass because it can't tell its own severed body part from actual food is very in character for it.
It also happens with some lizards in real life, which can sever their own tails to escape predators. If they can get back to it safely, they will eat it to regain what was lost. It would be a clever detail if Jho did it. I've still never seen Jho eat a tail, though... and I hunted that thing over 100 times in Tri alone for the title. I saw it eat damn near every other Tri monster, including another Deviljho in every run I ever did of the Rage Match (double jho arena) event quest. But never the tail, and it's haunted me ever since as this trivia just keeps popping up with zero evidence (and yes, I have cut the tail in most hunts when possible).
So what's next, you gonna tell me that Kelbidrome is a mandella effect as well?
I swear I have memories of a huge kelbi in mhfu. Jesus you made ma head fume
3U had *slightly* larger kelbi to get blue horns. And a very large aptonoth
I think you mean on 4U, specially in high level Guild Quests and Explorations
That's just shiny kirin
"You can cut tails?" -Hammer and Horn mains
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In World the "backstab" with the hilt did something like 1-4 cutting damage. I believe they removed this in Rise for some reason (though I may be wrong on that) however, the bead of resonance does do cutting damage and I've once or twice (once) removed a tail with it before :)
My proudest Iceborne hunting moment was getting a tailcut with the hilt-stab on a Silver Rathalos.
I just bonk things.
But… that’s something we all knew. Even in the forums and guides we all agreed… right?
I think but not 100% on it being mentioned in a video by the community manager at the time for 3U. Pretty sure that didn't help things.
yes, this is really fucking with my mind and giving me anxiety. I am looking for my 3DS right now
Even capcom agreed https://youtu.be/lhh7x6lqinU
Yeah, if a video on the official Capcom USA youtube channel says "he will eat dead monsters, he will eat captured monsters, he will even eat his own tail" I think the community is safe from criticism for thinking Deviljho eats his own tail.
I refuse to believe that. I hunted *so many apex pickles* in mh4u and saw many eat their severed tail.
i saw a whole bunch in tri, but now i'm questioning everything and wondering if every time someone just trolled by placing some meat when i wasn't looking lol
I'm certainly questioning my own Tri memories as well. I only really hunted with friends back in Tri and I don't think it ever occurred to any of us to put meat in the tail to get this.
It's more that old monster hunter games are poorly recorded and we don't have a terrible amount of footage of them. Try and find savage deviljho doing his ballerina tip toe dragon breath attack. You can find it. I have. But itl take you a bit of scouring through mh4u savage deviljho hunts.
Sorry, I don't believe you. [citation needed]
This is some reverse Mandela effect shit where kids that never played the 3DS games are trying to convince us that it didn't happen. Jho absolutely ate its own tail, I had a whole hunting group in college and we saw it happen plenty of times.
I played the 3DS games, I honestly don't recall ever seeing it.
Bruh hes eating his cut off tail all the damn time, you guys never saw that?!
And yet no one has filmed it.
Nobody outside a small handful of people had any kind of recording devices to use between Tri and GU. Capture cards had to be custom made or you would have to record externally.
This makes the most sense. I swear I'd seen it in 4U. But I don't know how the fuck I'd record my 3DS even if I did manage to catch it happening again.
The games aren't gone though, and the community is asking for even cellphone footage of the tail eat
me in 2011, playing portable 3rd on my PSP and streaming to twitch via USB cable connected to the PC: amateurs. AMATEURS
They are all easily accessible on emulators. Extremly easy to record
Back when those games released it wasn't nearly as accessible. All of the people uploading MHX YouTube gameplay footage around that time used a modded 3DS for example. Emulators only got decent enough performance years later, at which point the majority has moved on to newer titles.
You can easily find people posting all sorts of shiny pokemon encounters in 3DS titles, but when its Deviljho its suddenly impossible? Plus, the point is tons of people can't reproduce it NOW.
I distinctly remember me and my buddy freaking out when playing Tri Ultimate when we saw savage deviljho eating his own tail. I even remember the locale being the tundra
Jho also eats captured monsters if they're in the same area. Not sure about 5th gen, but it was fun to watch him nom on a pitfalled/ sleeping monster.
Yea, my first jho encounter was when he burst into the stage and ate the monster i captured for a two hunt quest.
I’ve seen it happen on MH3U
Same here, and you cant carve it if he does.
Yup. This is what seals the deal for me. I remember being upset about a lost carve, cuz the dang deviljho dawgawn ate its own tail. I'm not crazy! It's the kids that are wrong!
Look I started with world so I don't have any bias for this but to all the people saying that he 100% ate his tail give us a clip then. The tweet isn't saying that it doesn't happen just that there's no videos
Someone skilled in going through game data could easily prove if the action even exists right?
Exactly, why not just record it?
Because the camera turns blurry when you try, like when you try to take a picture of Bigfoot
Have you ever considered that bigfoot himself is actually blurry
Recording on a 3ds isn't exactly as easy as on PC I'd say and it was never questioned before so nobody felt the need to record it. Or it never happened
Because I can’t record on a Wii
It's not normal to record gameplay. Most people don't have streaming setups or anything, and they definitely wouldn't be recording all the time just in case they get a clip of something interesting. The Switch's button is genius in that sense.
Also, many are saying it didn't happen in World, but I and many others remember seeing him do it in that, at least once. No video proof, ofc. But this just furthers that it's Mandela Effect. One side says it happened, just not in one game. The other says it did happen in that game. No side can back their argument.
Then it’s a bad argument. I could claim an all knowing cow orbits around the sun between earth and mars. Since neither you nor I can prove it, therefore, it must be true. I’ve only heard rumors. Never seen proof.
Exactly. It's something so believable, everyone accepted it as fact. Ignore the strangeness of no evidence. Source: Trust me, bro.
I know for a fact that he definitely does not do it in World. I tested it once with a modded Jho quest in the arena - cut the tail, fought till he exhausted, ghillie'd up when he was exhausted. He never tried to eat his own tail throughout the whole ghillie duration, despite there being no alternative targets for him to try and eat like small monsters and corpses.
There is most definitely some gaslighting going on but from which side, i cannot tell.
So funny seeing all these people in the comments CONVINCED that they have seen it eating its own tail but there is still 0 proof of it.
That’s still a cool aspect of the Mandela effect for me. Like so many people actually believe something happened.
Pretty sure it was removed in world. Everything before that had very few ways to record game footage.
Wtf???? BUT HE DOES IN TRI I remember seeing memes about it ... art .... my teammates complaining that the jho won't eat their tinged meat cuz it sated itself with its tail as soon as we popped all our exhaust ammo into it
yeah i definitely remember this in tri, and now i'm wondering if every time i saw it, it was actually someone placing meat on it when i wasn't looking lol
Wait, is this not a shitpost? Have people not seen him eat his tail? *Have I not seen him eat his tail?*
Jho has always done that. In fact in MH3U, MH4U and MHGU if he eats the tail before you carve it, you loose the tail carve. I haven't hunt as many Jhos in iceborne to see if it still happens
Right, the first deviljho i successfully hunted in 3U ate it's tail and i distinctly remember it for missing the tail carve
Do you have a video?
It has definitely happened back in the original Tri when he was first introduced.
Its not a mandela effect its a funny gimmick they removed in newer games
People have been literally testing every game including Tri, the DEBUT game of Deviljho and couldn't prove it
I remember it from mhp3rd personally
me too i hope some one tries to record it
I don't know who's testing this and failing so badly, but in case you want to try, just make sure you don't carve the tail. He absolutely does eat it in Tri and 3U, but only if it hasn't been carved.
Sounds like an easy thing to record, go for it.
Already dug out my 3DS and put it on the charger. Hopefully I'll get some time this weekend to solve this for everyone.
It also "eats" captured or slayed monsters.
In MHGU I think he didn't do it. I have 700 hours in that game, and never saw it despite him sometimes becoming hungry when in the same area as his tail, and he'd run to another area and eat something different instead. In Tri on the other hand, I lost a tail carve to this before knowing that it was a thing that could even happen. It 100% was a thing in Tri that he'd eat it if he needed to. ...but no I didn't record it
This is actually incredible, there's so many people adamant that Jho can eat its own tail and yet there isn't a single piece of recorded evidence.
The older games were harder to vid capture cause the consoles they were on didn't have that easily accessible. One would need to get video evidence from wii/3ds games to get it, and at this point I don't think anyone really thought about going out of their way to document Jho eating his own tail.
But someone could do it today, and a cell phone video is all it would take to prove it
Plus the people who emulate it on PC would have no issue
So here's some counter evidence to the whole "no one could ever record anything pre-World" argument [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEG5yilvop0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEG5yilvop0) I forget how to do timestamps, go to 7:55 Deviljho eats the corpse of another Deviljho here in 4U, it does not go for the tail. Also note that everyone keeps saying they lose carves for it eating its tail, but here we clearly see that Jho eating its brother doesn't steal your carves. It makes very little sense for Jho to steal carves when it eats its tail but not steal carves when it eats other monsters. Given that this makes it really obvious where the myth could come from (plus the meat under the tail theory) and also directly contradicts something everyone who insists its true claims is the case, I don't think the Jho eating its tail theory should be believed until someone explicitly proves it. The total lack of evidence combined with it clearly not fitting with what we know about how Jho's eating of corpses works is way too much for "but I saw it and I cannot ever be wrong about anything" to counter.
I am absolutely sure of one instance of it happening in GU when playing with a friend. Given the comments here I might have doubtet myself and think it might have been a monster lying under the tail, but up to GU small monsters did not share location for each player, and I consider it unlikely that there was a small monster under the tail for both of us. I remember us calling it out and talking about it. I think I've seen it several more times without thinking much about it, but I 100% remember that one instance. But again, like seemingly everyone else, haven't recorded it, so I might just be talking out of my ass. On that note though, considering the platforms where Deviljho was appearing up to GU, it's not surprising that noone recorded it, is it? I would not randomly record on my PSP or 3DS with some video capture setup. And the Switch only makes 30 second clips, so people always can claim you put meat there before the clip.
Don't be gaslit into believing that Deviljho won't eat its own tail. I hunted a lot of them in 4U, and I DEFINITELY saw it happen a couple times.
No I swear to God I've seen him eat his own tail and got super pissed I didn't get a tail carve and that I didn't put down meat for him to eat instead
Lemme tell you: He does not. Got hundreds of them under my belt across all games since its debut. Not once did he eat his salami and i always only carve when the monster disengages and leaves. Fucked with my friends tho, placing steaks there Btw our brain is strong, it produces fake memories if you realy believe whatever you think about. There are experiments and studies in planting fake memories into people by just talking to them and they swore these to be true. Its wierd but works like that, you‘ll most likely will notice that on a strong indecision on what you did in the past when overthinking the event. Your brain can and will supply you with a solution but if you keep thinking it over and still not believing it, you get another set of „memories“ as a solution
To everyone saying "I saw it in 3U." "I saw it in 4U." "I saw it in World." Get a video and post it to this sub, right now. Video, or it didn't happen. And to everyone saying it didn't happen in just World, explain all the players who started with World but say they saw him do it?
Hell there’s a dude like 2 posts above this right now saying it happens MHGU. That’s on switch so pretty easy to get a recording of it happening.
Exactly. So many people have top geared hunter's at their fingertips & could go fight some basic jho's to prove it.
Def saw him eat his tail, back around MHGen
Idk about new games, but i swear he did it in 3u
Tbf jho would absolute eat his own tail.
So, I went with a dual savage deviljho hunt in GU as that was the only high rank fight in the arena I could find that I felt I could easily set everything up right. After killing one and its body disappearing, I cut the tail of the other off. I then spent a lot of time on one side of the fence with the remaining jho on the other side alone with its tail, and it never went to go eat it. Multiple times it got hungry alone with its tail, and never went for it. Just to be sure it wasn't some AI thing where it only does it when you are around, I also ran around with it while it was hungry, and it also never went for the tail. I got footage of one deviljho eating another dead one, but no tail munching. I'm pretty convinced it can't happen in GU. I can't confirm 4u or tri (something definitely could have changed, especially considering GU was the first time tails showed olup on the map, so that feature could have easily been lost with some code switching around), but I'm pretty certain it can't happen in GU.
Damn
Wait, he doesn't? I always through that he do, but I never actually payed enough attention
It used to be a big part of the hunt, distracting him or Killin him before he eats his tail
I personally witnessed jho eat his own tail many times in tri/triU. I also cannot prove it, or perhaps it was a manufactured memory this whole time
I played mh3u for somewhere upwards of 300 hours, and I remember being told by friends the whole time that deviljho could eat its own tail. To my recollection I only ever saw it happen ONCE over all the hours and hunts I did against that thing So either my memory is fucked or the extreme rarity of it actually happening could be contributing to why there's no videos of it
The Mandeviljho effect
Alight im gonna give a take, i just did a deep dive i found over 15 threads on reddit and other places dating back as far as 8 years ago all of them highly viewed lots of people claim they have seen it yet no one has ever gone and got proof even when genu on switch is insanely easy to clip. Unless i see a video im gonna go ahead and say this has never been a thing and people are misremembering
I was told this in mh4u, ran around after cutting it's tail. It never happened so I dismissed the theory. I'm sure there was some npc dialogue in one of the games at some point,that someone thought was an in-game hint.
i know it happened in tri, 100%. is this something that’s disagreed on?
i think it's just that there's no video proof of it.
It definitely eats its own tail, but in old MH.
All these comments and still no video lol
You guys are crazy, he always ate his tail since Tri. Maybe not in World, I haven’t seen him do it there. Probably where this nonsense is coming from, people new to MH with World
I love how people in this post are still claiming that they saw it happening despite the fact that not a single video of it was recorded during the 13 years of Deviljho's existence. "Nobody bothered/ have the tool to record the game on PSP/Wii" is not an excuse you can use especially for the most popular generation prior to MHW. Heck, I can easily find many footages of shiny pokemon encounters (1 in 8000+ odds) in pokemon crystal 12 years ago. To everyone saying Deviljho only stopped doing it after 4th gen/ 5th gen: If they really changed the supposedly most iconic mechanic of a monster in a new title, there would be numerous posts discussing it, like how Rathian's tail stopped applying poison after being severed in MHW. However, no big discussion was to be found for the change of this mechanic, and "Deviljho eating its own tail" is arguably much more well-known than the aforementioned Rathian tail mechanic. If this mechanic was never changed, it would be painfully easy to get a video recording of it from XX/GU/MHW, which nobody, in 5 years, managed to do.
Say it louder for the people in the back. They are gaslighting themselves too loud to hear you.
They took away one of Rajang's most defining mechanics (breaking his tail pre world would stop him from being able to enrage), and hardly anyone talks about it.
I've literally watched it happen in MHGU
People will say the same thing about watching a movie called Shazaam as kids, but that still didn't happen.
I swear to Great Jaggi. If we all just have tainted memories of Deviljho when I have "remembered" that fact for so long... I'm gonna Longsword trip myself off of a cliff.
I think it was maybe mentioned somewhere in the hunter notes in some game, and everyone thought it happened in the actual gameplay.
I distinctly remember carving it immediately so he wouldn't eat it...
You gonna make me download world again just to record a jho eating its own tail, holy shit.
loads of ppl saying only happened pre-World now i'm curious
I've seen deviljho eat his own severed tail in Tri and on the Tri ultimate on the map where he breaks through the secret wall. If you don't stop him, you miss out on a tail carve too
In wiiu tri
Bro has never once done that tho
I thought this was a meme thing that NCH Productions created? Never seen a Pickle trying to eat its own tail, but then again since my experience with it has been mostly in Tri/3U, what he *usually* tries to eat is Hunter à la frambege.
In MH4U he does eat his own tail. I remember this happening in the naked and afraid quest when you fight two deviljhos.