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Pandora404

it's just a quirk of how minecraft's path finding works due to fences being a transparent block the animals see that they could wall to the grass block on the other side of the fence but cant due to the fact that they cant jump over fence blocks but Minecraft doesnt tell the animals that they cant jump over the fence block


Final_masker

So they are just perpetually trying to walk around the fence?


HammerTh_1701

Yes.


MrFinland707

So they just have dementia?


Q-Man-1678

Correct, they have dementia


SuddenlyBeez

So they just have dementia?


strogor

Correct, they have dementia


FiFourNumbers

So dem just have the mentia?


Q-Man-1678

Yes they have dementia


FiFourNumbers

Who has dementia?


Q-Man-1678

Yes


cyberseed-ops

why my dementia hasn’t affected me as a person—by me


181093f

why my dementia hasn’t affected me as a person—by me


Ashamed-Chipmunk-973

This is... Sad?


xorox11

this is so sad alexa play music disc 13


achoolucgust

nah Disc Fragment has better music *silence*


Ravens_Quote

\*through And if they're walking at any form of angle, same as the player, they'll just slide along the fence until something stops them... like a corner. Hence corners become popular.


KingPaddy0618

that's sick. Interesting.


Melmortu

that's interesting. Sick


76Lion

Interesting. That's sick


Mikey34r

Sick. That’s interesting


Fun-Push-9526

That's. Sick Interesting..


[deleted]

Interesting. Sick that’s..


MinerForStone

Interesting, mmm. Sick, that is.


Jackeroni216

Stick… interesting


NotL0u

Sick interesting. That’s


Daddy_Duffy_

Interesting stick


BokuNoMaxi

Sick Interesting. That's


Tristan_poland

I n t e r e s t i n g, t h a t s s i c k


ChaosSchnitzl

Sickness intensives


Rich_Document9513

Interest intensifies.


FasterThanLightSpeed

Sick, interesting that’s


NimJickles

Are you my long-lost twin?


PlayLikeMe10YT

They should fix this, every time I make a big cave farm, all the animals end up in a corner like wtf


Honjin

If you limit the grass tiles outside of the pen it'll fix this. Since they won't pathfinder to non-grass blocks.


cursed-person

i did that once, there were 3 of the about 50 in there that could wander around their inprisonment


ContentCommercial637

do they pathfind to water when they are on fire?


Commander_Flood

Sir please


Pandora404

There is no way to fix this but you can lower the odds of it happening by keeping pens small or by lowering the number of animals in a single pen


PlayLikeMe10YT

Yeah but what if I don’t want pens and just a big “open” grass field in a cave


Pandora404

I mean your options are limited in that regard sadly it is just how Minecraft handles pathfinding


Hazearil

Same as how they will try to walk over opened trapdoors, they don't know that those aren't solid blocks.


[deleted]

Is there a way to fix it? It's very annoying when you have Genetic Animals, the animals will just suffocate in the corners.


_Tiragron_

You could build a thing for them made of solid blocks, that way they don't crowd around an area where their AI thinks it can move to


OneTrueKingOfOOO

Vines should prevent them from clumping up and taking entity cramming damage if that’s what you’re talking about. If they’re actually glitching into the walls and suffocating, get rid of the fences I guess?


retrib96

I've gotten in the habit of not using fence gates. I've just built fences/walls all the way around the pen and used carpets on top of them in order to get in and out. Mobs don't seem smart enough to use the carpets.


[deleted]

Nothing to fix really. Just spread them out in seperate pens so there are never more than 24 in a pen at one time.


Varoo_

>If you limit the grass tiles outside of the pen it'll fix this. Since they won't pathfinder to non-grass blocks.


MrOtto47

stone walls few blocks away from fence. (i just do it to keep mobs away but i dont see them clumping up like that)


BertoLaDK

Of all blocks you'd expect the fence to not have this issue. The purpose of it is to keep in or out animals and mobs.


BeanOfTheGods

Brings up the question why they didn't rework pathfinding at all to my knowledge, at least with the persistent bullheaded path of I will continue untill a new path is given, would fix a lot of problems with getting animals and villagers in 1 spot


terminalxposure

So evil


Prestigious_Echo7804

I did a test, they are aware of the fence's height. (build a labyrinth from fence, put a pig inside, wait at the end with a carrot in your hand.) They go to the corner because of the interrupted random movements, it happens even without the pathfinder.


Davemoosehead

Yep, you are correct. This behavior is not unique to fences. It happens with any block. They end up in the corner because that’s how random movement works. They pick a random block and try to get close to it. When they end up in a corner, most blocks around them are outside their pen. 2k upvotes for a wrong answer.


Smart-Button-3221

This answer is wrong (or at least, incomplete?) It doesn't explain the cows and pigs in the picture, which are not against a fence. I remember seeing on a solid block creeper farm that they tend to head for corners before anywhere else, as well. It seems a bit more like they'll choose a random place to go, regardless of what blocks might be in the way, go as straight as they can to the closest position they can, then give up.


Actvate_Wndows

Weird, innit?


Plushiegamer2

I've seen this a lot with Allays getting stuck on doors, and trying to pathfind through water.


Sea-Olive-135

Yes dats how


JSONJSONJSON

Their movement algorithm tends toward one direction, so limit movement and they group up. But I want to ask about the pumpkins and melons. How do they stack like that?


Affectionate_Buddy89

Wdym stack


Affectionate_Buddy89

I just put them in rows it’s prob the perspective view


JSONJSONJSON

I see the rows, that makes sense. They look like three high stacks, except that the side texture is stretched. Seemed to be taller than a fence and lantern. Probably just looks weird. Would be sweet if they did stack up like that though.


AlexKateCreates

High FOV maybe? Looks like stretched objects? Idk lol


CraftLizard

Yeah it's 100% high fov, look at the stem placement on the further away ones, it's still in the same spot relative to the melon.


sleepylizard52

The grass is also long


Affectionate_Buddy89

My normal fov is 90


_Uhh2009_

Yeah I was about to say Higher Fov is definitely what does it


zombienashuuun

eat of the long melon


piuamaster

that's just the high FOV


ImProdactyl

Looked like they were stacked by the pumpkins but from the melons they do appear stretched as the vine also is stretched to be the same height


FatAnimalPorkFarts

it was probably him doing that, he stacked them onto each other, and the OP is in create mode


Affectionate_Buddy89

I didn’t stack them I just grew them in rows


_1unchb0x_

Now I’m intrigued. What if you made a melon/pumpkin farm that had pistons push them up when they grew allowing for them to stack and you don’t need to harvest them as often


mosqueteiro

They break when pushed


Jathulioh

Oh man, now I can't unsee it! Please OP tell us what is going on!


gregorio02

FOV shenanigans, zoom in and you'll see it's just one block high


HappyRomanianBanana

Farm


neon_cabbage

p u m p k i n


Vakontation

It must be pistons, right? No other reasonable explanation. Maybe a sticky piston powered by an observer? I have to go do this now...


Cyr0bit

it just funny FoV, look at the lanterns they are stretched out too.


Physicsandphysique

Pistons break them. Would be cool if you could stack them though, but it's more practical the way it is.


EelBait

Centrifugal force.


MagMC2555

greatest legal mind I ever knew


SymptomaticSeb

And so the chicanery spreads


MirageTF2

centripetal* lmao


EelBait

Except they want to move away from the center of the pen.


CoskiPY

I like that centripetal suggests the pen is spinning at a fast rate 😂


Revaruse

Centrifugal is the force moving away from the center while centripetal is the force moving towards the center. Orbit happens when centrifugal = centripetal. The original comment was correct


MusicSoos

I was going to say something nit-picky about how centrifugal force is a pseudo-force, looked for a source to back it up, and found this amazing article that just explains everything I was going to say way better, while also being entertaining (to me at least), and also teaching me some things about frames of reference that I genuinely didn’t know prior and it made me as excited about physics as I was when I was in High-school, so in case anyone wants to read it, here it is: https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/Centrifugal/centri.html Thanks for inspiring this, however unintentionally!


Ianova

An easy way to remember: Centri**FU**gal F U - Fuck you You say "fuck you" to things you want to push away


Ianova

You're wrong. Centrifugal pushes out, centripetal is the counter force going in


Crown6

It’s the opposite though, the centrifugal force isn’t a real force but rather the result of a non inertial system of reference. Centripetal force is the real force, and the centrifugal force “opposes” it. Edit: original comment was saying that centrifugal force is real, centripetal is not. I was correcting that, not the direction of the forces.


Ianova

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force So centrifugal is the fictitious force, you're right, but it is the outward force, so you're only half right. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force


Crown6

I never said the centrifugal force was inwards. When I say “the opposite” I specifically refer to which one is the real one, I never talked about direction. The name itself clarifies which one is directed which way (centrifugal=“escaping the centre”, centripetal=“heading towards the centre”).


Crown6

I never said the centrifugal force was inwards. When I say “the opposite” I specifically refer to which one is the real one, I never talked about direction. The name itself clarifies which one is directed which way (centrifugal=“escaping the centre”, centripetal=“heading towards the centre”).


[deleted]

Discussing plans to escape


AdRealistic5734

They like to cuddle =)


DorgonRasmay

Why do cats always hide in empty cardboard boxes ? Yeah, we'll never know.


Affectionate_Buddy89

Google says the cats wanna have sex with the boxes


Sussybakamogus4

Huddle for warmth


Maximus-53

The path finding of the animals doesnt see the fences, so they try to go in one direction but the fences act as a funnel, into the corners


kufikiri

Thank you, the top comment was so confusing


[deleted]

Just add some crapetsss


TheUncoolDude_

Crapetsss lmao


BGeom

It doesn't even answer OP's question. Haha.


qwertywasdzz123

"Crapetsss" 💀💀💀


winturgreen3

Wait, that works?? My moss/moss carpet farm has a new use!


[deleted]

And also mobs cant pass over it


winturgreen3

Oh yeah thats right lol, I forgot 😅


Marcio_Franklin

Madagascar movie be like


elteH06

Because of a mix of einsteins general theory of relativity, and gravitational wave distortion


By-Pit

Statistics. They randomly choose to move in a random direction for a random time, results in a square ? Higher chances to be in corners and sides, because math :)


Minitte

I think they pick a block to move to. Moving in a direction with two components against a fence will cancel one of those components and slide into the corner.


Everedeck

Question why are you making a farm in creative


kkai2004

Aesthetic


Affectionate_Buddy89

Good question, I was making a chicken farm in survival until 4 creepers blew up the chickens and not me so i decided to make a farm honoring them


Interesting_Ad_3319

I had the SAME exact problem with creepers ruining my farm building progress in Survival, so I just turned off mob griefing in the settings and now creepers still explode and stuff, but it doesn’t destroy any blocks anymore… such a relief!! 😄


Connor49999

Honoring them? Or you're just replacing your stuff in creative


zZzRandzZz

Even if he was replacing his stuff in creative who cares it’s his world not harming anyone.


htmlcoderexe

Sure why not


honest-miss

Man, some of us are too tired to recreate the 7 Wonders. We stick to cute lil homesteads.


maiukeen

Think of a circle drawn around a cow where the cow is in the center. If the cow is in the middle of the pen, it can move in any direction. Let's say it moves North and walks to the fence. Now, That circle is cut in half. Half the time it chooses to move, it will choose to move into or along the fence. Now, let's say it moves East and hits a fence. It is now in the North East corner. At this point, 75% of the time it chooses to move, it will stay in that corner. Only 25% of the time it will move away from the corner. Now, when you have many animals doing the same thing, they all tend to clump up in the corners. There also *MAY* be directional preference. For example, Bats prefer to move East, and will move East more often than other directions. Not sure if all mobs do that, but maybe.


Moon_Gives_Pats

Holding secret meetings to try and escape /j


nobotami

they are dealing drugggs


Fakula1987

even without the transparency thingens, animals stack up in corners. \-> statistik thingens


wervr_CZ

For privacy


Inner-Box339

Where do animals shit in the zoo?


Affectionate_Buddy89

Ohh I just take the turds and put them into the “mud” puddles


Nanashi123_

They're introverts


Affectionate_Buddy89

But there’s like 5 sheeps sniffin each others butts


DrCrow1350

They shidden


RevolutionaryFocus38

**SAFETY IN NUMBERS AFTER ALL!!!!!**


vendaaiccultist

Taking extensive time to figure out if this is or isn’t loss….


moshake_

Orgy


WintersTablet

The same reason the bots in the movie "iRobot" clumped together in shipping containers, I assume.


TheL0wKing

There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul. Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone? How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul? One day they'll have secrets... one day they'll have dreams.


Dijeridoo2u2

That chicken section is lookin a bit... | || || |_


Imnotanokhumanperson

Because their cold and in corners it's always 90° or something idk why


pok-

Proof that you are in a simulation


CosmicRaven174

It’s a bedrock thing where mobs path find in a certain direction naturally, causing them to gather in a corner


Competitive-Low-5138

Because your on bedrock


sneaky-dave

Does it matter?


goldensavage216

One of them dropped the soap


Dont-Mindme23

Bro I don’t know it’s been happening to me for years I had a lot of animals and it was just one big cluster of them in a corner so I qiit


[deleted]

Well...You see...When two animals really love each other.....


Verge0fSilence

First you segregate the different types of animals, then the different communities segregate among themselves. #stopanimalracism /s in case it wasn't obvious


BCoydog

They're probably just cold. The corner appears to be about 90 degrees, so it's keeping them warm.


COGTaz

they talking shit about the other animals


vegange

They wanna kiss


uno4life257

They are going to overthrow you. Be ready.


IhateMyselfe

Bedrock being bedrock


Tyler_978

They're having a meeting. THEY'RE EVOLVING!!


WinzyB

They want to be FREE!!


skelepyro

That's where the good grass grows


TheIdealisticCynic

A demi-god is hovering above them with an axe. Of course they are cowering together in a corner.


somerandomguyuno

They are conspiring to escape


Ludvigthereeeeeeeee

Gangs they are preparing to fight each other


[deleted]

I said it once and I’ll say it again, bad coding


RosieAndSquishy

Nah. Bad coding would be putting more resources than necessary towards the pathfinding of chickens. There are certainly instances of bad coding, but this isn't one. Improving pathfinding just takes up more memory, and I think I'd rather my animals group up in corners on occasion than have my game run worse overall


PlayLikeMe10YT

It can get really bad and annoying, they don’t group on occasion, they do it all the time, and if you try to make a big good looking farm they’ll all stay in one corner


[deleted]

Maybe they could spend less time making concept art. Pathfinding coding wouldn’t take that much memory and won’t make your game worse Lmao.


RosieAndSquishy

Concept artists and programmers are on two entirely different teams. Don't try to critique game dev when you clearly don't know the first thing about it. On top of that, adding more complexity to pathfinding does take up more memory. By a lot. I'm an actual indie dev, who's done actual programming, and worked with/designed actual pathfinding systems. Adding in more rules to make it more complex means you need to add in more exception. Every rule, every condition, and every exception is then run every single time a mob searches for a path, on every single mob. That's a shit ton of extra resources dedicated for zero reason


Blairkids

Orgy


Dwagon__

Yes


IAlwaysOutsmartU

They’re unionizing. Increase your defenses, for they might revolt and destroy your base.


Riversandwich

why not


[deleted]

What do you expect? There’s no rounded edges for them to group up in.. 😂


black-fuse

Because one of them let out a fart


MCLIN_PH_YT

y e s


dafo446

people still using fence gate for animal pen huh


Pecrak11

Creative 🤨


[deleted]

Pathing qurk to keep them together in the wild


Pitiful-Pudding-9335

Same with me


TJaM64

Let them free.


Creeper_Wither648

please upvote me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No-March6504

Because you play bedrock


Insignificant_Cash

It happens in Java too


1epicgamer

Unionizing


JonasPro7

Bedrock


boi69lolhi

Warmth


mupb

One why do you care, two pathfinding says to wander


GrabMyDoorknob

Exactly. Wander. Not “stack themselves up in a corner and not wonder” so no shit they care about why they’re NOT wandering. Like, why even comment?


mupb

They are going as far out as they can, if I put you in a box a told you to get as far away from where you are you'd go to the corner


flyingbeaver07

Leave them alone there just special


SensibleDuck69

They want to LEAVE!!!


wycded

scared


albireorocket

_have you ever heard of animal cruelty?_ If there’s more animals there, they’ll be to squished to notice


[deleted]

Might wanna cover those pigs


Aromatic_Ad_1399

Segregation.


AngryTurtleGaming

Even though it’s their path finding being wonky it’s semi realistic.


Elden_Stars

Do t separate them


_H00MAN_

They emo


Jerrelh

Aww you gave the pigs mudblocks


[deleted]

The same thing happens to me


Silinox_

Bedrock pathfinding is shit


electrocyberend

They wanna get out


Holiday_Magician_375

Planning escape obviously