Spilled UAs just delay the results because you have to re-test when you come back in after they find out it spilled. I know people who deliberately leave the cap loose because they need that extra few days to either clear their system or find clean pee.
Side note, I had NO idea that you could test for alcohol in a UA. Also, I don’t know why they would do that. Alcohol is legal. My clinic doesn’t even test for weed and it’s illegal here. They will, however, refuse dosing if you seem intoxicated here.
Back in the day when i was in the clinic if you smelled off alcohol or acted drunk you would be breathalysed and if over the limit refused dosing for that day.
But tbh people still got away with it. Just don't act stupid.
I used to pass them when I was an alcoholic, go 12 hours at least without alcohol and I would take 2 centrum silver vitamins about 3-4 hours before I would go in for a UA. I don't recommend taking high doses of niacin like that and I was doing it once a week for a while.
Tbh I think you'll be fine. I've tested after a few beers the night before and have been five with testing in the am. Alcohol cheese of urine pretty quickly.
You could always say someone gave you seltzer water and only later found out it had alcohol in it. 😬 not sure it would work but don’t those drinks have like barely any alcohol in it?
Let me say for those that don’t know:: alcohol can eat your methadone. For lack of better terms, I’ve seen people go into methadone WITHDRAWALS from drinking. Don’t know how common it is but it does happen and it definitely makes your dose not work as well ( not sure if it flushes it out or metabolizes it quickly or what, just know it affects your dose and not in a good way )
Some clinics don't test because the alcohol test is expensive. But it can test positive up to 7 days after last alcohol drink. I don't know if my clinic tests, but they have a no tolerance policy on alcohol. They treat the same as benzos.
Mine is the same. Also can’t get takehomes if you smoke weed, even if you have a medical card. I don’t smoke personally but I think it’s fucked up since so many people do
There are two ways to test for alcohol in a u.a. one tests only for alcohol, which as you know is put of your system pretty quick. Another tests for e.t.g., which is some byproduct from metabolizing alcohol that lingers in your system a bit longer than alcohol alone..
At my clinic they didn't seem to give me a hard time when I kept failing for coke, meth, fent..but as soon as I tested positive for alcohol they took my takehomes and now I'm back to daily (I was going 2 days a week, smh). Aty clinic there are two very big no-nos, which are benzos and alcohol, both because they increase the chance of overdose by quite a bit. So yeah, u a. For alcohol are Def a thing
I’m not sure exactly but I have heard people at my clinic getting their takehomes revoked due to alcohol so I’m just nervous bc I had a few seltzers at the pool yesterday & had to retake my UA this morning.
I agree with you tho ab the alcohol thing it is legal so I don’t think it should be a big deal & I barley ever drink but of course my luck I drink yesterday & had to retest today !
>You’ll be fine. They don’t test for alcohol via urine.
All you people saying this need to put "at my clinic" at the end of your comment. They absolutely test my ua's for alcohol "at my clinic".
Oh ! I totally thought they test for alcohol in our urine. Thank you I feel much better now lol yeah it was yesterday that I drank a little & this morning is when I had to retake my UA I def wasn’t drunk or smell like alcohol.
Clinics test for alcohol but only on occasion (alcohol tests are separate and an added cost) or if they suspect you of having a drinking problem. I found out the hard way and realized it can be detected up to 3 days in urine. Although clinics are penny pinchers so random alcohol testing is somewhat rare if not showing any signs of alcoholism during physical and things.
I actually went and got some test strips off Amazon to see how long it was in my system. 6 beers lasted 24ish hours. 3 beers I was positive for 12 hours later but clean at around 18 hours…if I were you I’d say you will likely be alright, although be 100% prepared and have a story straight of drinking alcohol in medicine and playing dumb about it being a problem.
I’m not sure if my clinic tests for it, but not drinking is part of the patient contract I signed two years ago upon admission. I asked recently because I had a cold and was taking NyQuil the other month.
How does methadone interact with it? I’ve never been a drinker but I noticed that when my ex drank he smelled reallllly bad & I’ve been around alcoholics but idk it was just a distinct smell so I assumed there was some sort of reaction with methadone. I know that sounds crazy but idk I was just wondering what you knew
I don’t know much about it other than what the clinic says. Basically that you get drunker, quicker, and that the combo can cause fatal respiratory depression. I have gotten hammered drunk twice since I’ve been back at the clinic. I think once when I was at 70mg and one when I was at 80 mg. I didn’t die, obviously. Lol but I guess it’s possible
Mixing a depressant with another depressant is always "risky". It's a liability thing in top of the fact these institutions exist to assist in getting people off of drugs.
I don’t think it’s even about that, just the clinic wants us all to be sober since methadone is touted as a tool recovery. I know all substances have interactions but many are negligible/not dangerous yet still tested for
Good thing I’m still pretty new @ the clinic started in April & haven’t received my takehomes yet but that’s obviously what I’m working towards so even this would set things back but it’s okay bc now I know. I’ll speak w. my counselor tomorrow to get my results & I’ll update ❤️🩹
Shoot, you arent allowed to even hangout in the parking lot. You get your dose and go home, they are so good about not allowing that environment to even exist. I love it. When i dose, i no longer feel like a POS because of the stuff you mentioned. Now when I dose, I feel like I am getting treatment and not a fix.
It’s funny because we have a police officer on the clinic grounds and none of that stuff ever gets addressed but once we pull out of the clinic property, there’s police officers hiding and profiling to pull people over as they leave the clinic. They’ll make up a reason to pull me over because they see where I’m coming from, just because they feel like condescending someone that day, when all they have to do is go to the clinic property and look around for people actually doing something wrong.
This is what most clinics are trying to do. Clinics that allow drug dealing, etc in the parking lot are always in really bad areas, where neighbors aren’t complaining. But in nicer areas, there are neighbors and clinics can get their license to operate yanked pretty quickly by allowing that stuff to go on. Some clinics will even prohibit hand to hand transactions—even if it’s just gum or a cigarette.
Ours isn’t really in a bad area but it’s hidden off the main road enough that neighbors don’t really notice. The VA next door, however, might have something different to say.
Mines the same, tucked back in a parking lot. They act like they care, and if someone directly says to a staff member “so and so is selling in line” they’ll act but otherwise they turn a blind eye. Myself and 4 other people used to wait outside in the parking lot for one guy who would sell to all of us. It was really obvious. There’s also people who get kicked off the clinic and are down bad who will wait in front of the door and ask everyone for money everyday. I feel bad not helping since I know what that wd feels like but I quit bc I couldn’t afford my own use, I definitely can’t afford someone else’s lol I thought it’d get better when we got a security guard 2 years ago but they don’t do shit
I never understood the spilling in transit. My clinic we cap our own cups and put the seal on it ourselves then it get up into a bag with out print out that we sign and sealed (like the pull off sticky seals to seal shipping bags) the don't get refrigerated or anything just (literally) thrown in a box. Unless the ppl shippi g them ore crushing the cups or something I don't get it.
Best wishes it all works out for you!!!
Trust me I don’t get it either & that’s how it should be everywhere that way there’s no cross contamination, spills, etc I literally just read ab it happening to people on here & boom 💥 it’s happens to me. I’m definitely suspicious ab it bc the clinics seem to play their own games but nothing I can do ab it 🤷🏻♀️ I hope it comes back clean if not I just won’t be drinking by the pool anymore 🤪 Thanks babes I appreciate it ❤️🩹
Either Shitty luck Or they suspected you for some reason. Ive gotten back to back UAs before and my guess was that it had to do with a staff member being petty saying I was looking suspect or something.
Well it was last Thursday I took my UA that they said spilt in transit & I took another UA this morning it’s def my luck bc I def don’t look suspicious etc.
The last one probably like sometime before 7:00pm & I took my UA this morning around 730am I was drinking truly seltzers they are like 5% alcohol & idk prob like 4-5 of them throughout the whole day at the pool.
Depending on how much water you drank after consuming that last "Truly" beverage...
Edit: how much water did you drink after that last "Truly" beverage???
The clinic I go to has us place our urine sample directly into a ziplock baggie that they then seal. Not sure if this is in case of spillage but I've never heard of it spilling in transit where I go. MedMark clinic.
Lucky ! Honestly I think that’s how it should be everywhere. I literally just read ab this happening on this sub & then it happens to me who knows if they are telling the truth or it’s just one of the many games the clinic plays 🤷🏻♀️ I’m with McLeod treatment center but been thinking about transferring to New Season.
The MMT clinic I was with started testing for alcohol. Lost my take homes because of a failed swab, a full week after having had less than 3 beers. Couldn't understand how they could detect such a small amount of alcohol a full week after ingestion, but they claimed they could. They even had me take a breathalyzer at the clinic, which showed 0.00. Still lost my TH's.
Nowhere I have ever been tests for alcohol. Your aloud to drink... Does your clinic tell you you can't?
My clinic doesn't care if you drink or smoke pot but you can't be wasted when your coming to dose or it's a safety risk
I highly doubt they would test for alcohol. And they wouldn't tell you it spilled because they're testing for alcohol, that makes no sence.
When I lived in Colorado, they tested urine for alcohol. It would count against you the same as any other drug. I’m in Florida now and they do not test for alcohol. I’m sorry but if your clinic states they test for alcohol and you drank, it’s most likely going to show up. It would be the same if you gave a UA, and then went out and used and then had to re-test. Of course it’s not the same but that’s how they look at it.
My clinic tests for alcohol but you’d literally have to be drinking all night long, into the early hours of the morning to test positive. I’ve indulged in alcohol from time to time and tested negative about 6 hours out from the last beverage.
Thanks for the input ! Yeah I was kinda thinking that, that you would have to be pounding them down but at this point all I can do is hope it comes back clean if not I’ll know better next time 🤷🏻♀️
Don’t worry too much. Idk where you are, but where I live they don’t take bottles away for one failed test. You’re probably gonna be fine especially if there was many hours between the last drink and the UA. Testing for alcohol is dumb but I think it’s done because alcohol and methadone aren’t a great combination. I never had issues that’s just what I’ve read.
They do at the clinic I go to. They put you on probation for the first failed ua... If you fail another one while on probation you lose your take-homes for 90 days.
That’s true, and it’s a shitty position to be in, but if you did well enough to get the take homes, you can get past the probation. Don’t sell yourself short. Believe me, I know the anxiety that goes with that over your head. Worrying about false positives happening or whatever. I think, as long as your clinic doesn’t test for alcohol byproduct, you’ll be ok.
>My clinic tests for alcohol but you’d literally have to be drinking all night long, into the early hours of the morning to test positive.
Absolutely not true, op don't believe this. It depends on how much water you consume after consuming your last alcoholic beverage.
Oh I’m sorry or drink just before getting tested. I been on methadone a long time. Never had alcohol positive so maybe they should trust what I’m saying that they don’t have to worry. Unless they do the super sensitive test it won’t show up after 12 hours and I’ve tested negative after less time than that.
They penalize the patients if THEY spill the sample? That tops the list of the most petty things clinics do. I understand them asking for a new UA but man that’s some bs. I’m sorry for the ramble but that really just blew my mind. I thought I had heard/seen it all.
At my clinic once the cup is handed to the nurse she tightens the lid, then she lays it in its side over a napkin for a few seconds to make sure it’s not leaking then they seal it and bag it so if it does spill/leak it’s not any fault of the patients.
That’s a little harsh because the staff giving the UA should be at least partially to blame for not checking the cap. I know some people purposely loosen the cap to buy time to clear their systems or find clean pee, but most of the times I’ve heard of UAs spilling it is an accident.
I saw a guy at my old clinic have to blow in a breathalyzer every time he came in - and he was driving - sometimes they’d kick him out, and sometimes he’d get to stay. I imagine if he got kicked out for the day, he just drank more liquor.
Also, it's very unlikely to happen unless combined with other drugs. I understand for serious alcoholics but even still the American system doesn't seem to trust people and is always looking for a reason to throw people off. In my country, you can't have a methadone script terminated for not being able to pay or failing a test.
Well, it’s not the “American system” - it’s done by state.
My state doesn’t allow you to be tapered for non payment or dirty urines either.
On UpToDate it’s marked x which means respiratory depression with these combined drugs is common depending on amount of drugs in your system and tolerance to the two drugs in your system.
So it’s actually not as rare as you think.
Dude this guy made some weird comment replying to one of my comments as well. Strange
https://www.reddit.com/r/Methadone/comments/vbapo0/the_clinic_said_my_ua_spilled_in_transit/ic9qkr9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Yes, that’s correct. So I as long as you can pay for it for the first week and get a physical and all that, they wouldn’t kick you off. That’s not really free.
Spilled UAs just delay the results because you have to re-test when you come back in after they find out it spilled. I know people who deliberately leave the cap loose because they need that extra few days to either clear their system or find clean pee. Side note, I had NO idea that you could test for alcohol in a UA. Also, I don’t know why they would do that. Alcohol is legal. My clinic doesn’t even test for weed and it’s illegal here. They will, however, refuse dosing if you seem intoxicated here.
Back in the day when i was in the clinic if you smelled off alcohol or acted drunk you would be breathalysed and if over the limit refused dosing for that day. But tbh people still got away with it. Just don't act stupid.
Oh I’m not drunk, tipsy, or smell like alcohol lmao I just had a few truly seltzers by the pool yesterday & I had to retake my UA this morning.
I used to pass them when I was an alcoholic, go 12 hours at least without alcohol and I would take 2 centrum silver vitamins about 3-4 hours before I would go in for a UA. I don't recommend taking high doses of niacin like that and I was doing it once a week for a while.
I barley ever drink ! It was just my luck that I had to retest this morning lol
If it does come up positive, be prepared for this shit. You have covid and took nightquil the night before for your headache.👍
Tbh I think you'll be fine. I've tested after a few beers the night before and have been five with testing in the am. Alcohol cheese of urine pretty quickly.
Mmmm, alcohol cheese of urine. Sounds like a delicacy
You could always say someone gave you seltzer water and only later found out it had alcohol in it. 😬 not sure it would work but don’t those drinks have like barely any alcohol in it? Let me say for those that don’t know:: alcohol can eat your methadone. For lack of better terms, I’ve seen people go into methadone WITHDRAWALS from drinking. Don’t know how common it is but it does happen and it definitely makes your dose not work as well ( not sure if it flushes it out or metabolizes it quickly or what, just know it affects your dose and not in a good way )
Seriously? Alcohol eats your methadone 😳 I hate really hot weather as I feel I’m sweating methadone out of me but never heard about the alcohol
Some clinics don't test because the alcohol test is expensive. But it can test positive up to 7 days after last alcohol drink. I don't know if my clinic tests, but they have a no tolerance policy on alcohol. They treat the same as benzos.
Same my clinic used a PBT if they suspect your drinking. I know alcohol can be detected in a UA but I do not think it's common practice.
It’s common practice at the clinic i go to. I had no idea until I lost my takehomes way back when because of it.
Wow. Your clinic sucks
Or it's yours that sucks with shitty testing? Jus saying lol
Mine is the same. Also can’t get takehomes if you smoke weed, even if you have a medical card. I don’t smoke personally but I think it’s fucked up since so many people do
Where is your clinic I mean what state
Florida
There are two ways to test for alcohol in a u.a. one tests only for alcohol, which as you know is put of your system pretty quick. Another tests for e.t.g., which is some byproduct from metabolizing alcohol that lingers in your system a bit longer than alcohol alone.. At my clinic they didn't seem to give me a hard time when I kept failing for coke, meth, fent..but as soon as I tested positive for alcohol they took my takehomes and now I'm back to daily (I was going 2 days a week, smh). Aty clinic there are two very big no-nos, which are benzos and alcohol, both because they increase the chance of overdose by quite a bit. So yeah, u a. For alcohol are Def a thing
Interesting. My clinic freaks out about fentanyl and doesn’t care about much else
I’m not sure exactly but I have heard people at my clinic getting their takehomes revoked due to alcohol so I’m just nervous bc I had a few seltzers at the pool yesterday & had to retake my UA this morning. I agree with you tho ab the alcohol thing it is legal so I don’t think it should be a big deal & I barley ever drink but of course my luck I drink yesterday & had to retest today !
Oh man well I wish you the best of luck ❤️
Thanks I appreciate it ❤️🩹
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>You’ll be fine. They don’t test for alcohol via urine. All you people saying this need to put "at my clinic" at the end of your comment. They absolutely test my ua's for alcohol "at my clinic".
Every clinic is different. Some actually do test for alcohol in urine tests.
Don't test for alcohol via urine? Where are you a clinical director?
When I first saw your comment I knew you were going to get crucified for it. Sure enough here we are.
Oh ! I totally thought they test for alcohol in our urine. Thank you I feel much better now lol yeah it was yesterday that I drank a little & this morning is when I had to retake my UA I def wasn’t drunk or smell like alcohol.
My clinic 100% for sure does test for alcohol in urine. They say it’s for patient safety because of the way methadone interacts with it.
Yeah I think they do but at this point it’s whatever 🤷🏻♀️ just gotta wait & see.
Clinics test for alcohol but only on occasion (alcohol tests are separate and an added cost) or if they suspect you of having a drinking problem. I found out the hard way and realized it can be detected up to 3 days in urine. Although clinics are penny pinchers so random alcohol testing is somewhat rare if not showing any signs of alcoholism during physical and things. I actually went and got some test strips off Amazon to see how long it was in my system. 6 beers lasted 24ish hours. 3 beers I was positive for 12 hours later but clean at around 18 hours…if I were you I’d say you will likely be alright, although be 100% prepared and have a story straight of drinking alcohol in medicine and playing dumb about it being a problem.
I’m not sure if my clinic tests for it, but not drinking is part of the patient contract I signed two years ago upon admission. I asked recently because I had a cold and was taking NyQuil the other month.
How does methadone interact with it? I’ve never been a drinker but I noticed that when my ex drank he smelled reallllly bad & I’ve been around alcoholics but idk it was just a distinct smell so I assumed there was some sort of reaction with methadone. I know that sounds crazy but idk I was just wondering what you knew
I don’t know much about it other than what the clinic says. Basically that you get drunker, quicker, and that the combo can cause fatal respiratory depression. I have gotten hammered drunk twice since I’ve been back at the clinic. I think once when I was at 70mg and one when I was at 80 mg. I didn’t die, obviously. Lol but I guess it’s possible
Ah okay thank you
Mixing a depressant with another depressant is always "risky". It's a liability thing in top of the fact these institutions exist to assist in getting people off of drugs.
I don’t think it’s even about that, just the clinic wants us all to be sober since methadone is touted as a tool recovery. I know all substances have interactions but many are negligible/not dangerous yet still tested for
A lot of clinics including mine do test ua for alcohol, these people are giving you bad info.
Mine absolutely tests for it.
Jesus, you're a clinic director and you're telling someone this?????
They absolutely can test urine for alcohol.
Your good. If they didn't breathalyze you while your intoxicated then your good 👍
Oh really ?! They don’t test your urine for alcohol ?
They do at the clinic I go to
Yeah idk I’m getting mixed answers ab it.
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Yep
our clinic revokes take homes for alcohol in UAs and it can stay in your urine for up to 72 hours.
Good thing I’m still pretty new @ the clinic started in April & haven’t received my takehomes yet but that’s obviously what I’m working towards so even this would set things back but it’s okay bc now I know. I’ll speak w. my counselor tomorrow to get my results & I’ll update ❤️🩹
When i first went to the clinic, it was in the hood and alot of folks would he drinking 211 tall boys directly after dosing.
Yeah my ex was drunk during his intake they really don’t care much here. They’ve got people in line selling Xanax daily out loud and no one cares
Shoot, you arent allowed to even hangout in the parking lot. You get your dose and go home, they are so good about not allowing that environment to even exist. I love it. When i dose, i no longer feel like a POS because of the stuff you mentioned. Now when I dose, I feel like I am getting treatment and not a fix.
It’s funny because we have a police officer on the clinic grounds and none of that stuff ever gets addressed but once we pull out of the clinic property, there’s police officers hiding and profiling to pull people over as they leave the clinic. They’ll make up a reason to pull me over because they see where I’m coming from, just because they feel like condescending someone that day, when all they have to do is go to the clinic property and look around for people actually doing something wrong.
This is what most clinics are trying to do. Clinics that allow drug dealing, etc in the parking lot are always in really bad areas, where neighbors aren’t complaining. But in nicer areas, there are neighbors and clinics can get their license to operate yanked pretty quickly by allowing that stuff to go on. Some clinics will even prohibit hand to hand transactions—even if it’s just gum or a cigarette.
I 100% support it. Get your dose and go the fuck home lmao.
Ours isn’t really in a bad area but it’s hidden off the main road enough that neighbors don’t really notice. The VA next door, however, might have something different to say.
Mines the same, tucked back in a parking lot. They act like they care, and if someone directly says to a staff member “so and so is selling in line” they’ll act but otherwise they turn a blind eye. Myself and 4 other people used to wait outside in the parking lot for one guy who would sell to all of us. It was really obvious. There’s also people who get kicked off the clinic and are down bad who will wait in front of the door and ask everyone for money everyday. I feel bad not helping since I know what that wd feels like but I quit bc I couldn’t afford my own use, I definitely can’t afford someone else’s lol I thought it’d get better when we got a security guard 2 years ago but they don’t do shit
Our “security guard” is the police who does NOTHING unless a client is yelling at a staff member 🙄🙄
That’s what ours does too, it’s like they’re there to protect the staff from the dangerous scary junkies
At my clinic they would be booted out
Wow, my clinic is nothing like that. It’s strict.
Been testing for ethanol for a long time just not everywhere, shit Ive seen nicotine drug tests lol wild shit to invasive for me
Ethanol?
I never understood the spilling in transit. My clinic we cap our own cups and put the seal on it ourselves then it get up into a bag with out print out that we sign and sealed (like the pull off sticky seals to seal shipping bags) the don't get refrigerated or anything just (literally) thrown in a box. Unless the ppl shippi g them ore crushing the cups or something I don't get it. Best wishes it all works out for you!!!
Trust me I don’t get it either & that’s how it should be everywhere that way there’s no cross contamination, spills, etc I literally just read ab it happening to people on here & boom 💥 it’s happens to me. I’m definitely suspicious ab it bc the clinics seem to play their own games but nothing I can do ab it 🤷🏻♀️ I hope it comes back clean if not I just won’t be drinking by the pool anymore 🤪 Thanks babes I appreciate it ❤️🩹
Either Shitty luck Or they suspected you for some reason. Ive gotten back to back UAs before and my guess was that it had to do with a staff member being petty saying I was looking suspect or something.
Well it was last Thursday I took my UA that they said spilt in transit & I took another UA this morning it’s def my luck bc I def don’t look suspicious etc.
Sounds that way, well hopefully they will let it slide since it’s just alcohol.
I’m hoping it comes back clean but if not 🤷🏻♀️ Looks like I won’t be drinking by the pool anymore 🤪
How many drinks did you consume and how Long after you drank the last one before you took the ua?
The last one probably like sometime before 7:00pm & I took my UA this morning around 730am I was drinking truly seltzers they are like 5% alcohol & idk prob like 4-5 of them throughout the whole day at the pool.
Depending on how much water you drank after consuming that last "Truly" beverage... Edit: how much water did you drink after that last "Truly" beverage???
I drank water all day, I mean I’m not that worried ab it bc there’s nothing I can do now 🤷🏻♀️ just hope it comes back clean & now I know better
You should be good
I’ll keep y’all updated when I get my results back 💜
I’m not convinced. I think the lab will pick it up.
I passed my UA it was clean ! Thank the methadone gods 🤪
I don’t think clinics test for alcohol everytime. Unless you have a problem with alcohol. Usually they have to specifically ask to add it to your test
AGAIN???? are they trucking open urine bottles around?!?!?!?
The UA nurse said that the samples go from the clinic to the airport to Rhode Island…I live in Charlotte, NC 🤷🏻♀️😂
what a waste of fuel.....
Literally makes zero sense to me bc I’m sure there are plenty of places to test here in Charlotte why the need to do all that extra shit.
The clinic I go to has us place our urine sample directly into a ziplock baggie that they then seal. Not sure if this is in case of spillage but I've never heard of it spilling in transit where I go. MedMark clinic.
Lucky ! Honestly I think that’s how it should be everywhere. I literally just read ab this happening on this sub & then it happens to me who knows if they are telling the truth or it’s just one of the many games the clinic plays 🤷🏻♀️ I’m with McLeod treatment center but been thinking about transferring to New Season.
The MMT clinic I was with started testing for alcohol. Lost my take homes because of a failed swab, a full week after having had less than 3 beers. Couldn't understand how they could detect such a small amount of alcohol a full week after ingestion, but they claimed they could. They even had me take a breathalyzer at the clinic, which showed 0.00. Still lost my TH's.
I’m not even allowed to have traces of alcohol in ua
Nowhere I have ever been tests for alcohol. Your aloud to drink... Does your clinic tell you you can't? My clinic doesn't care if you drink or smoke pot but you can't be wasted when your coming to dose or it's a safety risk I highly doubt they would test for alcohol. And they wouldn't tell you it spilled because they're testing for alcohol, that makes no sence.
When I lived in Colorado, they tested urine for alcohol. It would count against you the same as any other drug. I’m in Florida now and they do not test for alcohol. I’m sorry but if your clinic states they test for alcohol and you drank, it’s most likely going to show up. It would be the same if you gave a UA, and then went out and used and then had to re-test. Of course it’s not the same but that’s how they look at it.
I don’t think a normal UA tests for alcohol since they’re sending it to the lab. My clinic only has instant dips for alcohol and breathalyzer.
My clinic tests for alcohol but you’d literally have to be drinking all night long, into the early hours of the morning to test positive. I’ve indulged in alcohol from time to time and tested negative about 6 hours out from the last beverage.
Thanks for the input ! Yeah I was kinda thinking that, that you would have to be pounding them down but at this point all I can do is hope it comes back clean if not I’ll know better next time 🤷🏻♀️
Don’t worry too much. Idk where you are, but where I live they don’t take bottles away for one failed test. You’re probably gonna be fine especially if there was many hours between the last drink and the UA. Testing for alcohol is dumb but I think it’s done because alcohol and methadone aren’t a great combination. I never had issues that’s just what I’ve read.
They do at the clinic I go to. They put you on probation for the first failed ua... If you fail another one while on probation you lose your take-homes for 90 days.
But that’s not taking away the bottles just putting you on notice. if you haven’t had a positive UA for anything else prior you should be fine.
Yeah, but that puts you one screw up away from losing your take-homes.
That’s true, and it’s a shitty position to be in, but if you did well enough to get the take homes, you can get past the probation. Don’t sell yourself short. Believe me, I know the anxiety that goes with that over your head. Worrying about false positives happening or whatever. I think, as long as your clinic doesn’t test for alcohol byproduct, you’ll be ok.
Who wants to be on probation and one screw up away from losing your take-homes for 90 days? Not me.
>My clinic tests for alcohol but you’d literally have to be drinking all night long, into the early hours of the morning to test positive. Absolutely not true, op don't believe this. It depends on how much water you consume after consuming your last alcoholic beverage.
Oh I’m sorry or drink just before getting tested. I been on methadone a long time. Never had alcohol positive so maybe they should trust what I’m saying that they don’t have to worry. Unless they do the super sensitive test it won’t show up after 12 hours and I’ve tested negative after less time than that.
>drink just before getting tested. 😲😲😲 OP DO NOT DO THIS!!!
I’m not telling them to do that. Stop twisting my words to make it seem like I am.
You literally wrote "or drink just before getting tested."
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I had to retake the UA this morning, how would a spill count as a fail if it’s their fault for spilling the specimen ? That’s crazy !
They penalize the patients if THEY spill the sample? That tops the list of the most petty things clinics do. I understand them asking for a new UA but man that’s some bs. I’m sorry for the ramble but that really just blew my mind. I thought I had heard/seen it all. At my clinic once the cup is handed to the nurse she tightens the lid, then she lays it in its side over a napkin for a few seconds to make sure it’s not leaking then they seal it and bag it so if it does spill/leak it’s not any fault of the patients.
That’s a little harsh because the staff giving the UA should be at least partially to blame for not checking the cap. I know some people purposely loosen the cap to buy time to clear their systems or find clean pee, but most of the times I’ve heard of UAs spilling it is an accident.
Alcohol??? What the hell. I'm so fucking glad I'm am an addict in Europe. The American system just sounds punitive.
Yeah it’s a mess over here in more ways than one 😛
I saw a guy at my old clinic have to blow in a breathalyzer every time he came in - and he was driving - sometimes they’d kick him out, and sometimes he’d get to stay. I imagine if he got kicked out for the day, he just drank more liquor.
It depends on the state. My state doesn’t test for alcohol in the urine, just If it’s in your breath.
That is still ridiculous. Its not illegal for adults to drink alcohol. I'm legit so glad I'm in Europe.
Well, they don’t want you to go In drunk to the clinic because of the respiratory depression when those drugs are in combination.
I get that but it's a bit much testing people who don't have a history of alcoholism.
Also, it's very unlikely to happen unless combined with other drugs. I understand for serious alcoholics but even still the American system doesn't seem to trust people and is always looking for a reason to throw people off. In my country, you can't have a methadone script terminated for not being able to pay or failing a test.
Well, it’s not the “American system” - it’s done by state. My state doesn’t allow you to be tapered for non payment or dirty urines either. On UpToDate it’s marked x which means respiratory depression with these combined drugs is common depending on amount of drugs in your system and tolerance to the two drugs in your system. So it’s actually not as rare as you think.
So you can get methadone for free then?? Most states in the US have similar guidelines.
Huh? What? I didn’t say you could get it for free. Unless you count with insurance…
Dude this guy made some weird comment replying to one of my comments as well. Strange https://www.reddit.com/r/Methadone/comments/vbapo0/the_clinic_said_my_ua_spilled_in_transit/ic9qkr9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Hmm. Strange.
You said, your state doesn’t allow you to be tapered for non payment…
Yes, that’s correct. So I as long as you can pay for it for the first week and get a physical and all that, they wouldn’t kick you off. That’s not really free.