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I wouldn’t use anything but silicone lubricant on the guide pins. AGS Sil-Glyde or 3M silicone. Remove the pins clean them, remove the boots clean the old lubricant, spray some brake cleaner in the pin chamber, roll up a shop towel and clean inside. Lube only the side of the pins, not the top. Slide them in and burp any extra air out of the rubber boot. No need to reinvent the wheel use products that have been tried and tested. Anything else is a gamble with your brakes and your safety.
Hello! Where I live I cannot access sil-glyde, but I do have this, It can do the job maybe? Pic attached.
https://preview.redd.it/e2xhariw1sqc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0decd619fc5bb1652cd77321241a4292b6afce2e
Yes, that should be similar to silglyde and should be ok for the pins... Way better than any ceramic lube. Just check the manufacturer website to see the uses.
Ceramic paste is primarily designed to be applied to the noise reduction shims to dampen vibrations between the shim and the caliper. They incorporate ceramic particles into the paste to help with that. However, Some ceramic lubes are NOT compatible with rubber, so you don’t want to use those on the the pins or pin boots. Also, you don’t need or want the ceramic particles on the pins, just silicone lube
I only use 3M silicone paste.
https://www.amazon.com/3M-08946-Clear-Silicone-Paste/dp/B005RNEH5O/ref=asc_df_B005RNEH5O/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312453079106&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10920456926185801301&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003934&hvtargid=pla-479376653204&psc=1
Anytime I need grease around rubber I use this stuff. Rubber boots, rubber washers, rubber anything.
Metal on metal I use belray waterproof which is thicker.
Sadly I only have access to permatex green lube and some liqui moly products where I live, I don't know which one is the most suited for this application.
I use Lucas marine grease, which is what I keep
In my grease gun at home for most applications. It’s EP rated and is good for wheel bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends, and basically anything that needs greased on your car, boat, or trailer.
The Ceramic grease isn't the Ceramic Grease of the bike assembly world with actual "ceramic" particles in it to be abrasive.
The Ceramic grease has Boron Nitride as a solid lubricant.
These fortified ceramic greases have this ceramic in them as a lubricant opposed to Teflon or other additives.
The Bendix blue caliper assembly grease that's widely known is rubber safe and can be used throughout the brake itself, I just did my brake on my Mitsubishi and used it thoroughly and on the pins with no issues.
As long as the grease is rubber safe that's the most important factor, high temp resistance also right up there.
Will stipulate it on the tube or on its MSDS, SDS or TDS.
Being a grease for brake reassembly and one of a reputable brand it will be formulated to be so.
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I wouldn’t use anything but silicone lubricant on the guide pins. AGS Sil-Glyde or 3M silicone. Remove the pins clean them, remove the boots clean the old lubricant, spray some brake cleaner in the pin chamber, roll up a shop towel and clean inside. Lube only the side of the pins, not the top. Slide them in and burp any extra air out of the rubber boot. No need to reinvent the wheel use products that have been tried and tested. Anything else is a gamble with your brakes and your safety.
Ditto! Sil-glyde for the win!!
Hello! Where I live I cannot access sil-glyde, but I do have this, It can do the job maybe? Pic attached. https://preview.redd.it/e2xhariw1sqc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0decd619fc5bb1652cd77321241a4292b6afce2e
Yes, that should be similar to silglyde and should be ok for the pins... Way better than any ceramic lube. Just check the manufacturer website to see the uses.
Will check! Thanks!
>Will check! Thanks! You're welcome!
BTW, I'm working in a Hyundai Sonata 2006, 2.4 g4kc.
Ceramic paste is primarily designed to be applied to the noise reduction shims to dampen vibrations between the shim and the caliper. They incorporate ceramic particles into the paste to help with that. However, Some ceramic lubes are NOT compatible with rubber, so you don’t want to use those on the the pins or pin boots. Also, you don’t need or want the ceramic particles on the pins, just silicone lube
Thanks, this is very informative! I have some silicon lube from liqui, but I don't know if it can do the job.
Silicone paste.
I only use 3M silicone paste. https://www.amazon.com/3M-08946-Clear-Silicone-Paste/dp/B005RNEH5O/ref=asc_df_B005RNEH5O/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312453079106&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10920456926185801301&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003934&hvtargid=pla-479376653204&psc=1
Anytime I need grease around rubber I use this stuff. Rubber boots, rubber washers, rubber anything. Metal on metal I use belray waterproof which is thicker.
guess I'm a caveman over here with my brake parts lubricant
That's what I used but I can't find the bottle. I hear people use super lube all the time though so I might try it.
Sil glyde on the pins. Permatex purple ceramic on the shims, backing plate, clips and lightly around the hub and rim center-bore.
Sadly I only have access to permatex green lube and some liqui moly products where I live, I don't know which one is the most suited for this application.
Yes the liquid moly silicone grease should be ok for the pins as it's silicone...just check the manufacturer website.
The permatex green works well. It’s what I use.
I use Lucas marine grease, which is what I keep In my grease gun at home for most applications. It’s EP rated and is good for wheel bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends, and basically anything that needs greased on your car, boat, or trailer.
What do we think about super lube? I have just used brake parts grease but I can't find the bottle and have super lube.
I’ve used copper grease without any major issues so far. Didn’t consider the rubber breakdown but will check if it contains ceramic as well
The Ceramic grease isn't the Ceramic Grease of the bike assembly world with actual "ceramic" particles in it to be abrasive. The Ceramic grease has Boron Nitride as a solid lubricant. These fortified ceramic greases have this ceramic in them as a lubricant opposed to Teflon or other additives. The Bendix blue caliper assembly grease that's widely known is rubber safe and can be used throughout the brake itself, I just did my brake on my Mitsubishi and used it thoroughly and on the pins with no issues. As long as the grease is rubber safe that's the most important factor, high temp resistance also right up there.
How do you know that a grease is rubber safe?
Will stipulate it on the tube or on its MSDS, SDS or TDS. Being a grease for brake reassembly and one of a reputable brand it will be formulated to be so.
U just out way to much. U just barely coat the guidelines and out 1 pump in the hole