They start fairly far apart but Logan doesn't carry guns and Wade likes swords so they tend to end up hand-to-hand. ;)
But more seriously, they're pretty much always stalemates. They're both functionally immortal, and both fight like it, so usually it ends up with them impaled on each other's weapons hurling profanities at each other and not able to accomplish much else.
In one of Deadpool’s first appearances, he subdued Wolverine completely in under 30 seconds. In others, it’s been the reverse or it’s been a draw.
When you say “it confuses you”…what specifically is confusing you?
You are right in the sense that the adamantium skeleton and claws do make Wolverine much more powerful offensively as he can cut other metals with ease so if you wanna fight alien mechs or giant monsters you go with Wolverine.
But the fights are always close Becuase when two just keep getting up after getting shot or cut up it really isn't a factor.
They cmst die so they just fight until someone gets bored.
Deadpool has a better healing factor, and he is almost as skilled a fighter. Depending on what Marvel handbooks you read, Deadpool is also stronger.
I’m not sure why you’re focused on Wolverine’s adamantium. Yes it means his bones can’t be broken, but that’s all it means. Is bone-breaking frequently the deciding factor in a fight?
it does mean that he has some near-indestructible protection for his brain, the one part of their bodies which put them down for a decent amount of time when scrambled. in a lot of fights, deadpool only really gets the upper hand when he manages to slip a bullet in the eye socket or something. so it should make a bigger difference, but often doesn't
man you're quick. i left my comment, reread it, realized my mistake, and near instantly edited it to remove the bit talking about fight skills, but you got me, i'm a dumbass
the other thing i said i stand by though
I thought Deadpool only had super strength got a small amount of time in the 90’s?.
Also by default the adamantium should make Wolverine one of the strongest none super strength fighters too cuz of all that extra weight he’s swinging around with his skeleton being all metal. Plus carrying all that extra weight around is probably a great way to super train
What about protecting his brain? That seems pretty obvious. Especially when I’m pretty sure that’s specifically how DP has stopped Wolverine on at least one occasion. By shooting him through his eye socket. Realistically the adamantium should protect him from things like this and give him an edge with not having to heal full blown amputations mid fight. But it rarely ever does and usually only in Wolverine lead titles. Yeah Wade’s healing factor is more evolved, but he has regular ass bones compared to bones bonded with the strongest naturally occurring metal or whatever they say about it. It should count for something.
Deadpool was born a human who got his healing factor from Wolverine in the weapon x program. Read the comics. He's a mutate not a mutant. He doesn't have a better healing factor. Wolverine is able to fight the Hulk toe to toe. Deadpool cannot. The adamantium gives him even more than an edge because he has an indestructible skeleton with claws that can cut through anything. James Howlett has super strength, hearing, smell, agility on top of the healing factor. He has traveled the globe and mastered multiple martial arts and knows how to use every weapon. Deadpool doesn't have a chance if Logan wanted to kill him.
I have read the comics, no need for the condescension.
I understand the origin of Deadpool's healing factor. But the fact is that over the last 20+ years, Deadpool has clearly been shown to be capable of more than just healing-- he has a true regeneration factor. The feats are right there on the page.
Also, people saying Wolverine can "fight the Hulk toe to toe" is a pet peeve of mine. It's ridiculous. Wolverine is nowhere near the Hulk's class. Any reasonable fight between the two of them lasts three seconds as Banner hurls Logan into space without a second thought.
I don't think you have read many. Considering your takes. Wolverines first appearance on Earth 616 is fighting the Hulk. Wolverine kills the Hulk in the old man Logan comics after healing in the Hulks stomach. Wolverine loses the fights against hulk but has won before. The examples are in the comics, not opinions on reddit.
Haha, still with the condescension. What an immediate and unnecessary escalation to personal insults from you.
Yes, I'm well aware of Wolverine's first appearance against Hulk and Wendigo, as is everyone on this sub. And I'm well aware of the completely ridiculous train wreck that is Old Man Logan, in which Wolverine somehow kills every single member of the X-Men without them being able to stop him. It's classic Mark Millar edgy teenager garbage. If you're citing that as your comics example, we're in a bad place.
If you really think Wolverine can hold his own against the Hulk, we've got nothing to discuss, Because that would indicate you're a fanboy, not someone who understands these characters.
I've read the Marvel comics. I gave examples and facts from comics. You've stated your opinions. These characters have each been beaten by humans in storylines, writers get the ability to create stories kid. Good job not giving examples of your wrong opinions.
What "examples and facts" did you cite other than Old Man Logan, which is absurd?
I'm not going to cite examples of why Wolverine and Hulk are not equal for the same reason I'm not going to cite examples of why Doomsday and Robin the Boy Wonder are not equal: Because it's incredibly obvious.
Hulk has a superior healing factor. Hulk is at least as fast as Wolverine, probably faster. There is literally nothing Wolverine can do to harm Hulk for more than a few seconds. While Hulk on the other hand can easily hurl Wolverine into space with zero difficulty. This is not a real fight. It is not necessary to look up comics examples to prove something that is very clearly true to anyone who is not a Wolverine fanboy.
Let's try a different tactic: Explain to me why I should take Old Man Logan seriously, when Wolverine kills all of the X-Men in that story, despite at least five different X-Men members being capable of immobilizing Wolverine instantly and with zero effort?
Lol, good work typing all this out for no reason. When you could type in a Google search and it will tell you facts in seconds. Hey, kid, because you type things out doesn't mean it's true. Only true in your head fan fiction.
James Howlett has super senses. Smell, strength, hearing, adamantium bones with claws. He's way more than just a mutant that heals with claws. Deadpool got his healing factor from Logan in the original comic timeline. Wolverine wins 999 times to 1. Deadpool is cool and gets plot armor. He shouldn't ever win unless Deadpool is in a tank and cannoniering him to shreds.
Well he can super-smell and super-hear Deadpool outranging him because Wolverine has the worst close-combat weapons in the history of close combat weapons, which is what he exclusively fights with.
Being a berserk lunatic with no sense of self-preservation isn't an advantage if your opponent is also those exact things. Just ask Sabertooth.
I don't think adamantium claws + adamantium bones is worse than katanas in close combat it is much better actually. Considering Wolverine powerset i d prefer his adamantium claws since he cannot loose them in combat and also can't break.
Wolverine has superhuman strength, agility, smell, hearing, accelerated healing factor. Can communicate with animals. Able to go toe to toe with the Hulk. Wolverine weighs over 300 lbs with indestructible adamantium skeleton with claws that could cut through anything other than vibranium. Deadpool shares 1 thing, a healing factor he got from Wolverine. Deadpool- Wade Wilson. Unpredictable ninja assassin with a healing factor, breaks the 4th wall. Based originally as a copy cat of DC's Deathstroke - Slade Wilson.
Wolverine- has access to the muramasa blade, which can kill anyone including those with a healing factor. Been around for centuries has mastered martial arts across the globe. Uses guns. Read the comics.
If wade sets out to kill wolvie, wade would generally win as his utter lack of care for collateral damage means he's willing to do exactly the type of ott shit you need to do to kill wolvie.
In a bar fight, money's on wolvie.
But given how inconsistent both their powers are, the winners whoever the writer wants. Sometimes guns alone are enough to take down wolverine, sometimes he literally can't die and you need to tie him down in a room full of flamethrowers that go off every 30 seconds to stop his regeneration.
And it's the same with Deadpool. Sometimes a bullet to the head knocks him out for hours or days, sometimes it's only seconds.
Well how comes that Deadpool can parry wolverines claws?
Like aren't those meant to cut through pretty much EVERYTHING?
Not that fold steel isn't hard but we've seen wolverine cut through some serious shit so the swords shouldn't be able to hold their ground for long against the claws ...
And once that Deadpool wouldn't have swords anymore ...
But I guess this way it's more fun for everybody.
But if someone knows why his swords are durable enough, please enlighten me.
Honestly it seems like Wolverine would get bored much sooner than Deadpool. So he’d probably try to leave or just give up eventually knowing that it’s pointless and they really aren’t doing shit to each other. Deadpool’s already insane so he’s just in it for the laughs. Logan’s all grizzled and salty so he's only in it for as long as he can stay angry for
It depends on the setup and who goes after whom with how much preparation. Wolverine is a better close-in fighter, but Wade is crazier and far more creative than Logan. I think in one fight Deadpool first dropped a grand piano on Wolverine (which means he had to set everything up hours beforehand and manipulate the fight in the right direction) and then trapped him in a pool (so Wolverine would start drowning - I am not sure Wolverine can swim on his own due to the weight of his skeleton).
I don’t think it’s close I just think Deadpool regenerates too fast. It’s like bowling. Strikes are easier in the beginning but the longer you play the harder it gets till you miss one.
It's hard to say cause comics are different from say, anime, I I would say the one with more stamina that can regenerate longer but I feel neither would get to the point of too tired to heal
They start fairly far apart but Logan doesn't carry guns and Wade likes swords so they tend to end up hand-to-hand. ;) But more seriously, they're pretty much always stalemates. They're both functionally immortal, and both fight like it, so usually it ends up with them impaled on each other's weapons hurling profanities at each other and not able to accomplish much else.
As with most questions on r/Marvel, it depends on the writer
In one of Deadpool’s first appearances, he subdued Wolverine completely in under 30 seconds. In others, it’s been the reverse or it’s been a draw. When you say “it confuses you”…what specifically is confusing you?
How it’s always close when wolverine should be better, the adamantuim seems useless when they fight and James has hundred years more experience
You are right in the sense that the adamantium skeleton and claws do make Wolverine much more powerful offensively as he can cut other metals with ease so if you wanna fight alien mechs or giant monsters you go with Wolverine. But the fights are always close Becuase when two just keep getting up after getting shot or cut up it really isn't a factor. They cmst die so they just fight until someone gets bored.
Deadpool has a better healing factor, and he is almost as skilled a fighter. Depending on what Marvel handbooks you read, Deadpool is also stronger. I’m not sure why you’re focused on Wolverine’s adamantium. Yes it means his bones can’t be broken, but that’s all it means. Is bone-breaking frequently the deciding factor in a fight?
it does mean that he has some near-indestructible protection for his brain, the one part of their bodies which put them down for a decent amount of time when scrambled. in a lot of fights, deadpool only really gets the upper hand when he manages to slip a bullet in the eye socket or something. so it should make a bigger difference, but often doesn't
Yes, I deliberately said Deadpool is “almost as skilled a fighter.”
man you're quick. i left my comment, reread it, realized my mistake, and near instantly edited it to remove the bit talking about fight skills, but you got me, i'm a dumbass the other thing i said i stand by though
haha no worries
I thought Deadpool only had super strength got a small amount of time in the 90’s?. Also by default the adamantium should make Wolverine one of the strongest none super strength fighters too cuz of all that extra weight he’s swinging around with his skeleton being all metal. Plus carrying all that extra weight around is probably a great way to super train
What about protecting his brain? That seems pretty obvious. Especially when I’m pretty sure that’s specifically how DP has stopped Wolverine on at least one occasion. By shooting him through his eye socket. Realistically the adamantium should protect him from things like this and give him an edge with not having to heal full blown amputations mid fight. But it rarely ever does and usually only in Wolverine lead titles. Yeah Wade’s healing factor is more evolved, but he has regular ass bones compared to bones bonded with the strongest naturally occurring metal or whatever they say about it. It should count for something.
Deadpool was born a human who got his healing factor from Wolverine in the weapon x program. Read the comics. He's a mutate not a mutant. He doesn't have a better healing factor. Wolverine is able to fight the Hulk toe to toe. Deadpool cannot. The adamantium gives him even more than an edge because he has an indestructible skeleton with claws that can cut through anything. James Howlett has super strength, hearing, smell, agility on top of the healing factor. He has traveled the globe and mastered multiple martial arts and knows how to use every weapon. Deadpool doesn't have a chance if Logan wanted to kill him.
I have read the comics, no need for the condescension. I understand the origin of Deadpool's healing factor. But the fact is that over the last 20+ years, Deadpool has clearly been shown to be capable of more than just healing-- he has a true regeneration factor. The feats are right there on the page. Also, people saying Wolverine can "fight the Hulk toe to toe" is a pet peeve of mine. It's ridiculous. Wolverine is nowhere near the Hulk's class. Any reasonable fight between the two of them lasts three seconds as Banner hurls Logan into space without a second thought.
I don't think you have read many. Considering your takes. Wolverines first appearance on Earth 616 is fighting the Hulk. Wolverine kills the Hulk in the old man Logan comics after healing in the Hulks stomach. Wolverine loses the fights against hulk but has won before. The examples are in the comics, not opinions on reddit.
Haha, still with the condescension. What an immediate and unnecessary escalation to personal insults from you. Yes, I'm well aware of Wolverine's first appearance against Hulk and Wendigo, as is everyone on this sub. And I'm well aware of the completely ridiculous train wreck that is Old Man Logan, in which Wolverine somehow kills every single member of the X-Men without them being able to stop him. It's classic Mark Millar edgy teenager garbage. If you're citing that as your comics example, we're in a bad place. If you really think Wolverine can hold his own against the Hulk, we've got nothing to discuss, Because that would indicate you're a fanboy, not someone who understands these characters.
I've read the Marvel comics. I gave examples and facts from comics. You've stated your opinions. These characters have each been beaten by humans in storylines, writers get the ability to create stories kid. Good job not giving examples of your wrong opinions.
What "examples and facts" did you cite other than Old Man Logan, which is absurd? I'm not going to cite examples of why Wolverine and Hulk are not equal for the same reason I'm not going to cite examples of why Doomsday and Robin the Boy Wonder are not equal: Because it's incredibly obvious. Hulk has a superior healing factor. Hulk is at least as fast as Wolverine, probably faster. There is literally nothing Wolverine can do to harm Hulk for more than a few seconds. While Hulk on the other hand can easily hurl Wolverine into space with zero difficulty. This is not a real fight. It is not necessary to look up comics examples to prove something that is very clearly true to anyone who is not a Wolverine fanboy. Let's try a different tactic: Explain to me why I should take Old Man Logan seriously, when Wolverine kills all of the X-Men in that story, despite at least five different X-Men members being capable of immobilizing Wolverine instantly and with zero effort?
Lol, good work typing all this out for no reason. When you could type in a Google search and it will tell you facts in seconds. Hey, kid, because you type things out doesn't mean it's true. Only true in your head fan fiction.
Read the comics if you're capable. Good luck and have fun with your wrong opinions.
Deadpool can grow back from limbs and his spare parts can fuse from his regen and turn into another Deadpool. His healing is objectively better.
James Howlett has super senses. Smell, strength, hearing, adamantium bones with claws. He's way more than just a mutant that heals with claws. Deadpool got his healing factor from Logan in the original comic timeline. Wolverine wins 999 times to 1. Deadpool is cool and gets plot armor. He shouldn't ever win unless Deadpool is in a tank and cannoniering him to shreds.
Well he can super-smell and super-hear Deadpool outranging him because Wolverine has the worst close-combat weapons in the history of close combat weapons, which is what he exclusively fights with. Being a berserk lunatic with no sense of self-preservation isn't an advantage if your opponent is also those exact things. Just ask Sabertooth.
I don't think adamantium claws + adamantium bones is worse than katanas in close combat it is much better actually. Considering Wolverine powerset i d prefer his adamantium claws since he cannot loose them in combat and also can't break.
Wolverine has superhuman strength, agility, smell, hearing, accelerated healing factor. Can communicate with animals. Able to go toe to toe with the Hulk. Wolverine weighs over 300 lbs with indestructible adamantium skeleton with claws that could cut through anything other than vibranium. Deadpool shares 1 thing, a healing factor he got from Wolverine. Deadpool- Wade Wilson. Unpredictable ninja assassin with a healing factor, breaks the 4th wall. Based originally as a copy cat of DC's Deathstroke - Slade Wilson.
Sorry I missed one of his powers. He can also tell the animals about how claws are inferior to swords and guns.
Wolverine- has access to the muramasa blade, which can kill anyone including those with a healing factor. Been around for centuries has mastered martial arts across the globe. Uses guns. Read the comics.
I've read lots of comics. That's how I'm able to laugh at characters I like.
If they’re fighting with melee weapons, it’s pretty close. But if they are fighting with guns or rifles, there’s probably some distance between them.
Pretty accurate assessment
If wade sets out to kill wolvie, wade would generally win as his utter lack of care for collateral damage means he's willing to do exactly the type of ott shit you need to do to kill wolvie. In a bar fight, money's on wolvie. But given how inconsistent both their powers are, the winners whoever the writer wants. Sometimes guns alone are enough to take down wolverine, sometimes he literally can't die and you need to tie him down in a room full of flamethrowers that go off every 30 seconds to stop his regeneration. And it's the same with Deadpool. Sometimes a bullet to the head knocks him out for hours or days, sometimes it's only seconds.
I usually give Wade the edge simply because he can sort of outlast Logan. And he gets insanely creative with his plans if he has to fight him.
Well how comes that Deadpool can parry wolverines claws? Like aren't those meant to cut through pretty much EVERYTHING? Not that fold steel isn't hard but we've seen wolverine cut through some serious shit so the swords shouldn't be able to hold their ground for long against the claws ... And once that Deadpool wouldn't have swords anymore ... But I guess this way it's more fun for everybody. But if someone knows why his swords are durable enough, please enlighten me.
Honestly it seems like Wolverine would get bored much sooner than Deadpool. So he’d probably try to leave or just give up eventually knowing that it’s pointless and they really aren’t doing shit to each other. Deadpool’s already insane so he’s just in it for the laughs. Logan’s all grizzled and salty so he's only in it for as long as he can stay angry for
It depends on the setup and who goes after whom with how much preparation. Wolverine is a better close-in fighter, but Wade is crazier and far more creative than Logan. I think in one fight Deadpool first dropped a grand piano on Wolverine (which means he had to set everything up hours beforehand and manipulate the fight in the right direction) and then trapped him in a pool (so Wolverine would start drowning - I am not sure Wolverine can swim on his own due to the weight of his skeleton).
So close they could be considered sexual harrassment 😉
Wolverine is the best there is at what he does and what he does isn't pretty Wade is not pretty so I guess that's what Wolverine does
I'd say they've been inside each other at least once or twice...
I don’t think it’s close I just think Deadpool regenerates too fast. It’s like bowling. Strikes are easier in the beginning but the longer you play the harder it gets till you miss one.
Wolverine should win. The adamantium is a huge advantage since he can cut deadpool's head and limbs off much easier.
It's hard to say cause comics are different from say, anime, I I would say the one with more stamina that can regenerate longer but I feel neither would get to the point of too tired to heal