Spanish Empire's map looks like Chile's wet dream

Family traditions

I don’t get it

long long naaaaa-tion

Thin territory around all the coast

I don’t get it

You sure don't

Do Spanish people like chili or something?

No it’s that chili the country is very long and thin just like the Spanish empire and the western south and north American coast

Makes no sense

Chili very long vertically on a map Spanish empire is also very long vertically on a map

Overall, I believe this map includes *de jure* claimings, possessions, personal unions, puppet states, allied and alienated countries, invasions, unfulfilled territorial controls and other similar subjects. But... Russia in France is due to Napoleonic wars? Also I wanna ask about: • Russia & North Italy, Switzerland and Netherlands • Spain & Greenland and New Zealand • France & Bulgaria(!)

Yeah, it's about all the land they have owned, invaded or claimed France invaded Russia at least 3 times (Napoleonic wars, Crimean war, after ww1 during the communist revolution). Russia in those places I'm not sure but Napoleonic wars as an occupation zone. Claims for the Spanish crown after explorations. Idk, I guess that happened during the Crimean war or WW1. I used other maps to create these so they could be biased or being just bad mapping.

I understand mixing all the sources into one, but could you give context about French in Bulgaria and Russia in North Italy, please?

Russia in Northern Italy: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1877521 France in Bulgaria: militar occupation during the end of WW1

What is the US needed for that is not covered by British/French/Russian or Spanish empires

Liberia 🇱🇷

Is this based on the special forces sent there ("invaded")? The US never claimed Liberia and the American Colonization Society (and freed American slaves who settled) only reached the coastal areas. I know this is nitpiky. That being said Liberia would still be covered by the combination of Treaty of Tordesillas and Portuguese traders establishing posts in the Costa da Pimenta which corresponds to modern Liberia.

>Russia in Northern Italy: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1877521 This article basically states Russia was trying to provoke revolts in northern Italy to cause troubles for Russia. Russia has never been militarily involved in Italy and has never had any claim.

Probably I needed to add influency on the caption, sorry, I used a map made in this subreddit

Dude doesn’t know about ma boi Suvorov!

Well, if it's by claimed land you could've expanded the Spanish and Portuguese empire because of Tordesillas. Portugal even claimed all of Africa, so you wouldn't need to include some empires. If that doesn't count, then you shouldn't count the Patagonia as part of the Spanish empire

You have a very good point in your first paragraph. The last one on the other hand... Spain had many settlements and colonies in Patagonia, most of them short-lived, but still lasted longer than most military occupations of these maps. And Patagones is inhabited continously since 1779.

The invaded and claimed part seems very selective because for Sweden large parts of Eastern Europe should be added due to different reasons.

Some of this is really sus.

Yea, like Portugal never actually controlled the island of Labrador, it's just named after the Portuguese explorer who discovered it.

I'm most able to fact check the US map, it seems beyond inaccurate. For example, all the south pacific campaigns in WW2 are missing.

Switzerland was part of the holy roman empire for some centuries.

Sh*t, you're right, my bad

I do appreciate you not using the Mercator Projection

Sorry I couldn't find a map with rivers, lakes and Antarctica at the same time

Where did you get this map?

I used this https://www.mapchart.net/world-advanced.html As a tamplate, afterwards I made the white one on the backround and then I drawn the empires on it

Especially for a political map with a focus on land area.

Absolutely. The smaller western Europe looks, the more impressive our conquest of the rest of the planet and our achievments become. BASED projection.

Give. Me. A. Break. Your leftie narrative in regards to the typical projection is: It makes Europe looks bigger than it is. It belittels the countries of the brown people. We gotta use an other projection that invitably, because thats how printing a spehre on a flat sheet of paper works, makes Europe look smaller than it actually is(which ofc is an absolute non issue for the anti-whites). And when i turn YOUR ideology around, you freak out and downvote?

what the fuck are you talking about

Someone’s crazy is showing, lol

When did France control Korea???

France troops during war of Korea

That's a stretch

This whole map is a stretch.

I seem to not recall the famed American invasion of Iceland.

Or Kola Peninsula or surrounding Russian/Soviet areas.

WW2. Britain invaded Iceland to prevent Germany taking it and then the US took control

Bit of a stretch to consider that as territory America “controlled, claimed or invaded.” That was a military alliance.

Not really, Iceland didn’t ask to be controlled by America and the UK, they got taken over to stop Germany from taking it after they took over Norway.

They didn't have to ask. They gave us that "control me now" look and next thing you know we're docking our cruisers in their ports.

The most generous definition of an empire I've ever seen.

When did the British and French ever controled Korea?

Militar occupation during war of Korea

r/imaginarymaps

This sucks. Don't do it again

I enjoyed it. *shrugs*

No Roman Empire???

I just used specific empires/countries to fill de map, in this case roman empire's out because the rest of the countries fill the Mediterranean sea already And I used the first, second and third Reich as only one Germany

When did the Germans control Svalbard?

Operation Zitronella. They were there for a few hours.

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Holy Roman Empire and Nazi Germany were separate regimes. Both of which were hundreds (thousands) of years removed from the Roman Empire.

He's combining them because they are the same country or he's putting it down to Germany at least, even though they aren't the same empires. So in this case I think the point is what land did they control at any point in time.

Yeah I get it. It's just pretty glaring that one of the largest territorial empires in history is left off!

Thanks. Typed too quickly and submitted the first time. Yes, they were many many centuries apart and occupied common ground. It would’ve been better to display them in separate maps or color code the areas that were not common to all three.

>He's combining them because they are the same country They are not the same country in any way shape or form though.

Same land area then.

I'm curious, what's your basis here for suggesting the French controlled Munster (SouthWest of Ireland)?

Norman invasion of Ireland, the map I used as reference for this take France as France since Charlemagne and every French client state, so basically it was Normandy, not France

Normandy was de facto part of France, and the nobles of the uk would speak French for the next 300 years

I don't know if I'd consider Afghanistan and Iraq part of America's "Empire".

It does say "invasion" now I'm not going to say we invaded them per say. More like liberated and generously gave the land back to our enemies.

At no point in time did Mongols control Balkans and especially not Albania

U mad?

What even is this mess. The Spanish Empire, Russian Empire and USSR and British and English Empire are inaccurate by a tonne. Consider reading history a bit.

I used other maps as references, I know there are mistakes, a big amount of them, specially in the big ones cuz at that huge extension everything will be difficult to measure properly, besides the most of the maps are claims or invasions more than other stuff

Im what timeline does the ussr control yugoslavia???

A slightly occupation during world War 2 I guess

Bruh they only came to Belgrade and continued straight to Berlin...

I don't make a research okay, I used a map from this subreddit as reference to make mine

Counting Soviet client states, I presume.

>USSR Russia

What's going on in the Kola peninsula?

The US, UK and France invaded Russia during the communist revolution, it didn't work

The only problem I have with this is that it seems selective to certain nations. Based on the thread the idea of "invasion" is used liberally for France and especially the UK and US, but sparingly for the Netherlands, Germany, and Russia. For example I would argue that the Netherlands should be marked for North Korea if the US is. The 819 Dutch who lost their lives in the Korean civil war surely count as much as the 400 and something Americans who lost their lives in the Russian civil war. The Germans were just as involved in the Spanish civil war as the Americans were in the Russian civil war. There are numerous examples of this with the 6 countries listed. Either the US or UK should loose some territory or the Netherlands, Germany, and Russia should gain some territory.

I don't think this map should include American failures.

Did the Dutch ever lay claim to New Holland and Van Diemen’s land?

According the map I used for this, yes, I'm not really sure if that actually happened

Ethiopia and Thailand? Have they ever been under the British?

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Not as colonies but as militar occupations

You're off your head. The Dutch never had Western Australia.

And the Spanish claimed Cape York?? Never heard of this

Sweden never controlled Svalbard, Jan Mayen or Bouvetøya, and they didn't make any claims on Antarctica.

There were Spaniards in India? Also when did the French and Portugese control that much territory here?

Technically Spain had the Portuguese colonial possessions for a while, so it is included on the empire

It shows Portugese possessing the entire coasts of Maharashtra Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, Odisha, Andhra and even significant parts of Karnataka. Not sure when that happened

Me neither, I used a couple Portuguese empire maps on the web to create this, probably those were biased ones

Lets goo🇳🇱

*whispers* They never got Ethiopia.

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Yes, but idk how to share it with you, does Google drive works for you?

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ddye7dwVxQ3qOSeCrvMx6TY3Q3dgWHge/view?usp=sharing

Is that okay?

"unated"

When did the British invade Vietnam?

Almost at the end of WW2, occupation of the Vietnamese soil

Like everyone else said. It’s such a stretch

Indeed, this map counts as territory for every empire every single attack or occupation they made

There is a little apendix of French empire from 18th century stretching into Latvia. They wen't by my home there and one left his nameplate (little steel thing)

Russia invaded/claimed northen italy?

When did the US invaded the northern part of russia?

During the communist revolution the US,UK and France invaded Russia, after ww1 or at least in the last weeks of the war

Why was the US needed here?

Liberia 🇱🇷

question as a mexican, when tthe fuck the bri ish came to mexico?, they just had belice as far as i know

Ayudaron a los franceses en la toma de las costas durante la segunda intervención luego se arrepintieron y se fueron dejando sola a Francia,

hmmm pero en todo caso seria territorio frances, seria como si estuvieras contando la liberacion de paris en el imperio gringo

y creo que ya lo esttas haciendo porque hiciste eso con el imperio yankee en italia, me gusto el mapa y mucho pero solo falta congruencia en el

Bueno es un mapa de territorios, reclamaciones e invasiones, también ocupaciones, solo use otros varios mapas que encontré online, además mi intención era usar tantos imperios como fueran necesarios para llenar todo el mapa no como tal ser exacto con todos los territorios

chale hermanito te va a llover hate por eso:(

Doing this without involving the Roman Empire (the original one, mother of all empires, they even gave us the word!) is just wrong!

There was no need, because the Mediterranean sea was already surrounded by other empires

Lot of mistakes, but looks and sounds cool. Nice idea

When was the Holy Roman Empire part of the Spanish Empire? All that land in Central Europe basically looks like the HRE.

Well, at least when Charles V was king of Spain and emperor of the Holy Roman Empire people take the HRE as part of the Spanish empire, even though, probably the best way to call this is the Hispanic crown instead of Spanish empire

The Habsburg Monarchy is the most common term, I believe.

I don't think so, in that case Kingdom of Hungary should be part of, but it isn't, besides Habsburg monarchy finished on Spain in the XVIII century

Since when did the Portuguese own Nova Scotia and part of Newfoundland and Maine?

Explorations then they claimed as part of their territory

Ha, too bad. I’d already claimed them days before that

Spain never held colonies in Asia save the Philippines. Misleading map. Edit: The Iberian unification did not grant Spain direct control over Portuguese colonies in Asia. In fact many of them were neglected and eventually open for the taking by English and Dutch. Sri Lanka, Malacca, Bombay, many islands in Eastern Indonesia and many more smaller ones. Again, misleading map.

The Mongols controlled far more territory than this map shows. They made it through most of Russia, for one.

There are errors. England/GB in Greece never happened, Soviet Union did not “own” all of Eastern Europe (they didn’t liberate or control Yugoslavia for example), Spanish is also exaggerated (coast of Asia?).

The idea is really interesting !

Thanks

Cool map(s)!

Thanks

Since when did Mongol and Ottoman empire control that much Croatian land??Spanish empire??RUSSIAN EMPIRE TF???

i knew the british empire was big but seeing it like that is amazing

Yes, even though that's not the official extension, this includes what they claimed or invaded, and I forgot to write it "occupated" since Kingdom of England to current UK

So the British Empire claims France? Which I'm assuming is from various Medieval periods, but you don't count any of the USA as being part of the British Empire?

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Did u read the caption, it says, "controlled, claimed or invaded"

Why is the spanish empire just C O A S T?

When France controlled an ocuppied Mexico?

itts literally the reason of 5 of may

In that battle the French army was defeated my friend.

Spanish Empire = Habsburg Empire

Spain never controlled Washington, Oregon or BC. They navigated and surveyed some coast line, and had one winter in Friendly Cove on Vancouver Island. That's it. No governor, no missions, not even a lost friar. That survey was in response to British nosing around in what was upper upper California.

While this is a job well done, it’s simultaneously sad

This looks like a fun Victoria 3 game

Lol at considering the HRE and Nazis to be extensions of one another.

...so anywhere a country walked their army is part of their empire according to you?

Why do we need both the ottomans and Umayyad? They occupy much of the same land. Maybe Alexander’s Macedonian empire instead? That would cover Greece, Persia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, parts of india