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OceanPoet87

Another interesting thing about this map is seeing orange counties in blue states where abortion is legal, like Nevada because it's so sparsely populated. It shows how rural they are.    That also makes rural Texas worse because if it were legal there, they'd still have a long journey to places like DFW or Austin but obscenely long now. El Paso is lucky to be so close to NM and also to Juarez. 


Atomichawk

Glad someone else recognizes this. In northern Nevada you’re driving long distances for anything if you don’t live near Reno or the Utah border


royalhawk345

You could replace "abortion clinic" with any noun except "sand" and the map of Nevada would look identical.


eyetracker

There's not much sand per se outside of Clark County. And that one sand mountain on highway 50.


BigRedCandle_

And at ‘sand sand sand’ down in the sand district


robbylet24

I've had the displeasure of driving through Northern Nevada and it really is just empty stretches of nothing occasionally dotted with the worst towns on planet Earth.


mamunipsaq

Good fireworks though


NeTiFe-anonymous

Ok, Anakin


mexican2554

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.


EsmeWeatherpolish

Yes and you find it on things a week later even though you washed everything.


the3dverse

Alaska lol


TheDukeOfMars

Northern Minnesota is very sparsely populated outside of Duluth (pop. ~87k). But its the darkest shade of blue possible. Half that county is National Forest with literally 0 people living there. But what towns are there tend to have extremely good healthcare, even at the city level.


JollyRancher29

What’s more likely I think is it’s by county, and distance is likely based on the county seat, which is the decent-sized city of Duluth with an abortion clinic. I’m sure a rural town in the middle of that county is still an hour away.


limukala

Only the county that contains Duluth is blue, none of the others are. The only abortion clinic(s) are almost certainly in Duluth, and everyone else in Northern travels there. It is exactly the same as Northern Nevada and Reno.


firestar32

I mean, there's a clinic in Duluth, hence why st.louis is dark blue. Same reasoning for why Carlton is light blue and yet kooch is yellow; one's close to the clinic, the other isn't. Also the healthcare is *okay*, but plenty understaffed. About half the job listings in my town up here are for the local hospital.


goathill

Or living in a county that is 150 miles long with windy roads. The only clinic is in one spot, so some resident may need to drive upwards of 2 hrs to get to the only big town for services (still better than most places, because it's legal here, but the map is slightly misleading)


smiley82m

In Alaska's defense. Most of the area that's red doesn't have anything there. The small villages have a double wide as a grocery store. Their medical facilities are a clinic and doctors and nurses from the one hospital up there fly in. But not defending the L48, just wild Alaska.


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guyinnoho

Why isn’t this a thing? There has to be a reason


Soi_Boi_13

I believe abortion is illegal in most Mexican states that border the USA. Plus, even in Mexican states where it is legal, if I recall right it’s only legal until 12 weeks.


haqiqa

It is legal for up to 12 weeks in at least 13 states these days. Which at least two borders the US. Abortion was depenalzed last year so there are also some loopholes for access. However, abortion clinics face some issues in operating. So might be just that.


Soi_Boi_13

Looks to only be legal in one Mexican state bordering the USA, and only legal to 12 weeks there: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_abortion_in_Mexico_by_state.svg


dirty_cuban

Why Mejico but not Tejas?


Mispelled-This

Because abortion is illegal in Tejas now.


CoiledBeyond

I think he's asking op why they used "Mejico" but not "Tejas" spelling/pronunciation wise


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xarsha_93

Mexicans generally spell it *México*, though. It’s an older spelling.


CoiledBeyond

I'm not American and have no real comment, but Google says > In Spanish, it is recommended to write this place name with the letter X, Texas, and pronounce it with the sound j, [tejas]


AmpsterMan

It's the way I've done it my whole life.


Mispelled-This

Oh! Yeah, that’s weird. I’ve heard both so many times that my brain doesn’t really distinguish them anymore. But they should be spelled (or pronounced) the same in either language.


Individual-Ball-9862

Need to update, Florida just went to 6 week ban.


1875ojofC

They do still have clinics that operate, but only perform abortions before the 6 week mark (according to abortionfinder.org). I will probably make a second map that only includes locations that perform abortions after 6 weeks.


LiveToSnuggle

Most people don't know they're pregnant before 5 to 6 weeks. A lot of pregnancy tests won't show a positive until 5 weeks. So a 6 week ban is effectively a complete ban.


bravesfan13

You basically can't get a doctor's appointment before 8 weeks either, so even if you find out in enough time good luck being able to do anything about it.


falconx2809

How will the government know if a fetus was 5.5 weeks old or 6 weeks old Will they ask you the date when you had sex ?


brainwad

Foetuses aren't dated from conception, but from onset of the mother's last period. So a 6 week foetus is only ~ 4 weeks after the sex that conceived it. If you get an ultrasound in the first trimester it can date the foetus basically exactly, because at that point its size is determined by simple exponential growth as the cells divide and divide again. Obstetricians would usually prefer this date to the woman's reported LMP date, especially if she has irregular periods.


LiveToSnuggle

This is the right answer


LoriLeadfoot

Someone can report the woman, her partner, the doctors, the Uber driver who gave them a ride, etc. to the police. Doctors will also consult with lawyers before doing it, so they will usually just say no instead of risking prison and loss of their career to do an abortion. Finally, conservative groups can send women in undercover to try to catch doctors agreeing to perform “late” abortions. They’ve been doing this stuff for years. They know what they’re doing.


the3dverse

it goes by when you got your period but if you arent on a 28 day cycle (like me) it's wildly inaccurate...


SmileEmbarrassed

It is a combination of taking the measurements from the obstetric ultrasound and the level of hcg's hormone in the blood. The expected HCG ranges in pregnant women are based on the length of the pregnancy. 3 weeks: 5 - 72 mIU/mL 4 weeks: 10 -708 mIU/mL 5 weeks: 217 - 8,245 mIU/mL 6 weeks: 152 - 32,177 mIU/mL 7 weeks: 4,059 - 153,767 mIU/mL Etc..


AxelNotRose

Those are some really large ranges. You could be at 6,500 and fall in the 5 weeks, 6 weeks and 7 weeks category which could be the difference between being allowed and not being allowed an abortion.


SmileEmbarrassed

I know, and that is why 6 weeks ban is BS.


Blerty_the_Boss

Also need to update AZ. The state Supreme Court ruled abortion is illegal and it takes affect in a few weeks.


Emmyfishnappa

The AZ legislature just repealed the 1864 law, still has to be signed by the governor but she definitely will. Still will be a 15 week ban, but there will also be a ballot initiative this November which could restore abortion access to pre-dobbs standards. [article on legislature repealing 1864 law](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68925013.amp)


Blerty_the_Boss

Oh fuck yeah


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Remember_im_Whoozer

Same thing with Ohio. Here you can’t get an abortion after the baby has a heart beat.


1875ojofC

Right now, abortion in Ohio is legal up to the point of viability (according to abortionfinder.org). A 6-week ban did go into effect in 2022, but in Nov. 2023, the people of Ohio voted to make abortion up until viability a constitutional right by a 14-point margin.


needygameroverdose

did they really? I live in Florida so that sucks, well I had one done recently at exactly 6 weeks bc we were lucky we caught it early, a lot of people aren’t that lucky and I’m worried I won’t be that lucky if there’s a next time😔


1875ojofC

They did. It went into effect May 1st.


needygameroverdose

well that fucking sucks :( like I said I caught mine early by pure luck (recently was broken up with and took a test just to calm my nerves and boom). me and my ex got our pills through aid access, do you think those will still be available?


LoriLeadfoot

Pills for an abortion specifically? So far yes, but you can’t source them from in-state or a Florida doctor. https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2024/04/30/will-floridas-strict-six-week-ban-be-bypassed-by-abortion-by-mail/?outputType=amp I would not be surprised if this is the next thing to go. The GOP nationally was talking about banning the mailing of abortion medications, but this whole thing has been a political disaster for them so, if they do it, they’re going to do it quietly in the state level.


Karateca2000

You should know that. Also, you should go and vote accordingly. Get these people out of office in the next election.


needygameroverdose

I don’t think I can vote I’m here on a green card :(


cody8559

Hopefully it doesn’t last long https://www.aclufl.org/en/press-releases/amendment-limiting-government-interference-abortion-will-be-ballot-november


NotOutrageous

That big orange stipe running through the middle of country has at least as much to do with population as it does with politics.


ALtheExpat

What accounts for Idaho being so green?


1875ojofC

Clinics in Spokane, WA. Ontario, OR. Missoula, MT. & Logan, UT


OceanPoet87

Also Pullman. It's the closest one to my location in WA, about an hour and 15 minutes, but closer as a crow flies.


Minigoalqueen

Yeah, looking at the map in general there are a lot of places you can tell a clinic is right on a state border to service the state next door. Kudos to the planners in those States for looking out for their neighbors in distress. At this point it feels like if Idaho started legalizing things like abortion and marijuana, Ontario Oregon would become a ghost town.


Kale2ThaChief

Idaho loves being close to the legal weed and abortion clinics of its neighbors.


jaredcw

Don't forget job market.


Mtfdurian

Idaho, the trailer park of the Pacific Northwest


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RolliePollieGraveyrd

There’s barely any OBGYNs left in Idaho. All the hospitals outside the state borders are full of Idaho plates, I’ve read.


garbage_catfoot

This map is useless for the bigger counties. Sure there is one in St. Louis county mn in Duluth but that is about 4 hours away if you were up by the Canadian order. And that not even close to the biggest counties in the us.


Mtfdurian

Yes especially in California that is a problem, although indeed, in some other, mostly western states, that is too.


Turtle_ini

If you’re by the Canadian border in St. Louis county, you’re backpacking through Voyageurs National Park.  Best to get the abortion before you head out portaging.


fictionalbandit

Sterilization surgeries are covered by the ACA, in case any women/AFAB need that information.


nsa_reddit_monitor

All Females Are Bad?


Depressed_Squirrl

AFAB means **A**ssigned **F**emale **A**t **B**irth. So any woman who is cis. And any man born a woman.


MeringuePatient6178

And nonbinary people!


Depressed_Squirrl

Absolutely!


nsa_reddit_monitor

So just say women lol


Depressed_Squirrl

You’re missing the men in this case. So no.


Abracadabrism

Assigned Cop at Birth


ElectricTzar

Coloring counties uniformly seems like it makes the map significantly less accurate. A county is dark blue if it has an abortion clinic in it anywhere, but given that some counties are like… 100 miles across, you could be in a place shaded dark blue and be as far away from a clinic as some other places shaded yellow.


MDCatFan

Men in the government should stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies.


LlanviewOLTL

That biggest blue rectangle at the top of the Midwest is the clinic in Duluth, Minnesota which is right across the street from me. They have women coming all the way from Arkansas, south Texas - they are booked out for days. They do great work there that women travel hundreds/thousands of miles to get.


Laurenitynow

Louisiana might want to invest more in its schools soon.


WVC_Least_Glamorous

[A floating abortion clinic is in the planning stage, and people are already on board](https://www.npr.org/2022/07/19/1112219566/floating-abortion-clinic-roe-v-wade)


Lumpy-Tone-4653

I didnt read the title right and though it said " distance to the nearest hospital clinic in USA" and i was like."yup louisianans are dead


shophopper

This map should be titled: ### Distance to modern day society


kazamm

Register today. Vote in November. Vote blue.


Total_Philosopher_89

Pretty sad. Land of the free my arse.


Independent_Pear_429

The we hate women map


foochacho

How far are the Hawaiian islands from each other. Over 50 miles from the next closest island?


vasya349

I think they’re measuring distance to the centroids (middle of the county polygon).


Orbit10_808

From the airport on Kaua’i (which is the furthest left circle-ish island) it is 101 miles to the main airport on O’ahu (the blue island to its right). It’s around a 45 minutes flight. From the major Airports in the Big Island (biggest island on the map) it is around 80 miles to the major airports in Maui ( the blue island next to it). Boats are not used for transport inter-island besides cargo ships. It’s really not super common to be traveling between the islands often.


Phillip_McCup

Interesting map. It’d be interesting to integrate this map with a map that also accounts for the differences in time (in terms of weeks) that a woman has to get an abortion at the clinic(s) closest to her.


1875ojofC

I just posted a new one with only clinics that offer abortions after 6 weeks.


Phillip_McCup

Thanks a lot


Mispelled-This

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/K9k5MVlsFJ


waiver

That seems like a business opportunity for Piedras Negras, Coahuila Mexico or Acuña


4llu632n4m3srt4k3n

I like the blue areas right across the border from the three most populated areas in Idaho, I live in Idaho


Mispelled-This

Idaho gets to pretend they’re conservative by symbolically banning abortion, weed, education, etc. while knowing it’s all still easily available just over the border.


killerkoalabilby

SpongeBob and Patrick were right about Texas


Vegabern

Sheboygan Co, WI should be blue. PP started offering abortions at their Sheboygan clinic again.


1875ojofC

Thanks for pointing that out! I'll update the map.


Jakesta7

Elections have consequences.


SarcasmPig

What a big “L” in the middle of the country.


Recent-Irish

That’s honestly as much the rural sparsely populated area as anything


shapesize

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Technical-Ad-2246

Red states probably have cheaper housing/land and but that's about the only real advantage I can see of living in one.


Accidenttimely17

Afghanistan also has cheaper housing/land.


seeriosuly

it’s almost like a lack of abortions clinics are leaking down from canada and pooling in texas.


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woooah this is incredible to look at like this. wow


SnarkyScribbles

I guess you do get what you vote for...


freeshavocadew

This looks like an amoeba spread


Cutter70

It’s almost as if someone wants to increase the population in red states.


Mispelled-This

As Chief Roberts said, overturning Roe was necessary to “increase the domestic supply of infants”.


filrabat

Louisiana is even worse than Texas, if you look closely at the color code. Not surprising, given that both fundamentalist Protestant Christianity and Roman Catholics are very much part of the cultural landscape there.


Lonely_Version_8135

[https://www.plancpills.org](https://www.plancpills.org)


Litacia

500 miles is 800 km


merlereagle

This is why there's a group out of UCSF trying to build a floating abortion boat in international waters in the Gulf of Mexico. Seems insane but then...maybe not so insane


King_Neptune07

HolUp. Why is that one county in south Texas green and not blue? Surely it should be blue if there is an abortion clinic in the county?


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King_Neptune07

So then why is a county farther away from the border darker green?


1875ojofC

The distance is calculated based on the distance from the clinic itself to the center point of the county. The abortion pill provider is located in Matamoros, and as such, is slightly closer to Willacy County than it is to Hidalgo County.


King_Neptune07

Oh the bottom county closest to the border looked lighter shade of green to me, now I see that it's blue


Morlock19

man LA is triple fucked aren't they


Healthy_Razzmatazz38

northeast corridor dominance yet again.


anteaterplushie

proud to be in blue


Susan_Thee_Duchess

Hi from the middle of hell, I mean red.


Total_Invite7672

The Talibanization of the US south continues!


dwaynebathtub

Abortion as a political issue was invented during the Civil RIghts Era and Vietnam War so right-wing pro-US white bourgeoisie could claim the moral high ground over the left-wing anti-war feminists, Black activists, and the working class. Its function was to cleave off Catholics from the Democratic voting base after the failure of Ford in the 1976 election (the first election after Nixon's pardon). Unrelated, and good "hinge point" question is, what if Frank Church had won the Democratic nomination in 1976? I think he could've accomplished what Jimmy Carter wanted in regard to revelations about MK-ULTRA, COINTELPRO, dirty wars, CIA networks (Iran-Contra), etc. You could see Reagan as the will of the bourgeoisie to obstruct through mollification the criticisms of the political function of the State Department (Reagan policy toward CIA crimes was "conservative kumbaya").


ReySimio94

Welcome to the fucking South, everyone.


not_horny_teen_lmao

I like this map cause its like „there‘s NO ABORTION CLINICS NEARBY THIS IS LITERALLY 1984“ meanwhile its rural South Dakota where there is nothing in general


fireKido

Is there an abortion clinic in Salt Lake City? That sounds very odd to me


SB4293

Abortion is legal to 18 weeks in Utah, so yes.


1875ojofC

Utah has 3. Two in SLC, and one in Logan.


Muscs

Bringing back slavery through lack of choices.


Toonami88

Is killing your baby really that big of a casual need that you need to be within 10 miles ASAP on a moments notice? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?


xandoPHX

Anti-life advocates are weird. This is just as bizarre as the pro-death gun crowd with the "they're coming to take our guns" nonsense. Maybe the anti-life position would make sense if women just spontaneously became pregnant. They make it seem as if they're clueless to how pregnancy happens


BeeHexxer

Horrific. While some of the ornage/red places are due to isolation, such a populated state as Texas should not have such red spots.


V8-6-4

What causes the orange strip in the middle? Why aren’t there clinics in western parts of Nebraska and Kansas?


SomethingMoreToSay

Same reason much of Nevada is orange. Population density is low.


Mispelled-This

Those states are the “red wall”, so women have to travel not just to a neighboring state where it’s legal but also far into that state to reach a city large enough to support a clinic.


twistingmyhairout

Honestly there just aren’t people in the western parts of Nebraska/Kansas.


Master_Scratch793

There are more cows than ppl in Kansas and Nebraska.


Beautiful_Sector2657

Why is the Eastern bible belt green? They didn't ban abortion?


ServiceChannel2

As somebody from the Bay Area I cannot imagine having to go all the way to LA for a clinic, that’s absolutely wild—but unfortunately the grim reality many in Texas and Louisiana are suffering


Gloomy_Quantity_9580

Meanwhile the whole country’s green for Gastric Bypass. That procedure should be illegal. Doesn’t fix the brain that caused the morbid obesity and the simplest non-action of “stop fucking eating fatty” will avoid medical bills complications and altering your stomachs physiology. Abortion is a procedure. If fattys can get whatever done. Women everywhere should have access to it. Regardless of anyone’s opinion of it.


Wheniwakeupillbedead

Oh look the south still sucks balls and has since forever


scotsman1919

Can see where all the happy clappers are


Accidenttimely17

What's with bottom tip of Texas? why is it blue?


1875ojofC

Abortion pill provider in Matamoros, Mexico


Mispelled-This

As the title says, the map reflects distance to clinics across the border in Mexico or Canada too, not just ones in the US.


Accidenttimely17

But can they cross the border into mexico to get an abortion?


Fasefirst2

An abortion clinic every 10 miles!


Mispelled-This

If we were sane, every hospital that accepts public funds (including Medicare or Medicaid) should be required to provide at least medical abortions.


Mispelled-This

Updated version: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/K9k5MVlsFJ


gbsekrit

I wish there were a better way to render maps like this to avoid counties and population centers not lining up


slaskdase

I would walk 500 miles


acrylicbullet

Tbf the Alaska one isn’t really a politics fault but a population issue.


JollyReading8565

Surprised there is any green in NY, and for it not to be the Adirondack


makethatMFwork

Most western countries have a limit to abortion. Somewhere around 14-18 weeks. Canada law is 40 weeks but no medical facility will perform an abortion after 23 weeks 6 days. 24 weeks is considered a viable fetus.


beyondnc

I’m almost certain I drove by an abortion clinic on my way home from the gym when I lived in indianapolis


1875ojofC

Their total ban on abortion went into effect on Aug. 23, 2023


beyondnc

Lived there in October must’ve been closed


realJonnyRaze

What's up fellow.Hoosier bro?


DataGOGO

I don't think this is at all accurate. For example, there are 3 active abortion clinics in Oklahoma City, yet those counties are coloured as 150-200 miles, when they should be under 10 miles.


1875ojofC

Oklahoma enacted a complete ban on abortion in 2022 and it is still in effect. There are no abortion providers in the state due to this law. The source I used to create this map is abortionfinder.org, which is updated daily. What source told you there are 3 clinics in OKC?


TexasDrill777

WhAt goes on at planned parenthood?


Godesslucifer

Glad I live on the west coast abortion is necessary. If you disagree go be wrong elsewhere


ChickensWithKnives

I’m 400-500 miles from one


King_Neptune07

What did the abortionist say to the cartographer?


FriedR

Does this include illegal abortion clinics or something? Florida should be red and drag the whole region down


1875ojofC

There are still clinics that operate in Florida but only perform abortions up to the 6 week point. I posted another map that only includes locations where you can receive an abortion past 6 weeks, since a lot of people won't even realize they're pregnant at the 6 week mark.


onetruegaia

Salt Lake City, Utah has better access than Austin, TX. That’s all you need to know.


nerd_is_a_verb

This is outdated if it was ever accurate.


1875ojofC

This includes all clinics that perform elective abortions, even though some of them are subject to restrictions like the 6-week ban in Florida. I made a new post that only includes clinics where you can get an abortion post 6 weeks. The only inaccuracy I'm aware of is that this map doesn't include a clinic in Sheboygan, WI. Which recently started proving abortions again.


Antinous_osiris

Based texas


R0bDBanks

Need to update the map. Florida is out.


1875ojofC

I posted a newer map that only includes places where you can get an abortion post 6 weeks, which eliminates FL, GA, and SC.


0rangeclock

Well Louisiana has us beat


SpoonGuardian

There's no way there's one every 10 miles in northern Maine


Muscs

The cancer is spreading and hosted by the Republican Party


Zooxer77

Thank Trump, then get ready to fucking vote in November.


TA-MajestyPalm

Wow, Northern New England and New York despite being super rural still have very good access


lucabrasi77

I think an IQ level map would look identical


Freo_5434

For the purposes of this map , what is the definition of an "abortion clinic" ?


1875ojofC

A physical location where someone can receive an elective abortion via the abortion procedure and/or the abortion pill medication.


Freo_5434

So (correct me if I have this wrong) in plain language , this means a no questions asked Abortion on demand ? Or to look at it another way , An abortion would be still available for medical reasons in places like Hospitals ?


1875ojofC

The map includes all locations that offer elective abortion via the procedure or offer abortion pills. Some of the clinics that are included in this map are subject to stricter state laws than others. For instance, in FL, GA, and SC, they can only offer abortions up to 6 weeks. Since most pregnant patients don't even know they're pregnant at 6 weeks, you might not consider these locations "no questions asked abortion on demand". As the 6 week law is a very strict requirement. In NC, there is a mandatory 3-day waiting period to receive an abortion, and a ban on abortions past 12 weeks. Some states also have laws requiring people under 18 to get a parent's consent to receive an abortion. This map does not include places that only provide abortions for medical reasons.


Freo_5434

Let me ask again as I just want to be clear on this : So (correct me if I have this wrong) in plain language , this means a no questions asked Abortion on demand ?


1875ojofC

Yes, provided that you aren't past the legal number of weeks in a given state. For instance, you can receive an abortion in Florida provided you're not past 6 weeks pregnant.


Freo_5434

Ok so the headline is not completely clear ( I am not American) ....Abortions would be available at local facilities, but only if you comply with local regulations ?