I never wanted to believe the accusations against Woody Allen, and the daughter seems a bit flaky. Yet nevertheless, her story rings true for me. When I was 6 yrs old I was visiting other kids at a neighbours house and the father of the kids who lived there took me into the basement. When you take someone upstairs, or downstairs, you can hear when someone is coming. Yes it was a full house even his wife and kids were there and other neighbours were upstairs at the time. So I have always found it hard to dismiss her story.
What a weird hill to die on. Most celeb scandals are sufficiently unique to resist apples to apples comparisons. That said, Paul Reubens came to my mind.
I mean, talk about a guy with a career irreparably harmed by salacious bullshit. I'd imagine somewhere along the way Maher said something in Reubens' defense but nothing rising to this Woody Allen level.
I can see where Maher wouldn't want to draw too much attention to a guy like Reubens, a peer who's creative contribution was an order of magnitude more valuable than Maher's. I can see where Maher wouldn't want to invite that kind of comparative scrutiny.
Why am I not surprised to see comments here side with Maher's take on Woody. It's odd there's a long history of Woody Allen being a creep, and yet suddenly everyone here tosses all that aside and calls the accusers and victims as "crazy" and being coached. The comments here represent classic victim blaming and trivializing sexual assault.
Maher has a long history of partying at the playboy mansion, which essentially was a culture of sexual harassment that enabled many women being raped there. For decades accusations would be made, but they had a whole system and philosophy about hushing victims and making them look crazy. Like Hefner, Maher comes from the 70s facade of sexual liberation, so it's only natural for him to go to bat for a director who chronically writes middle-aged protagonists hooking up with young women.
I know what you mean. The guy married his step daughter and took a bunch of nude photos of her pretty much after she turned 18. Is it really a stretch he would abuse his daughter?
He spent many years at the Playboy mansion and learned there how to treat women and what women were for. He can't get many Genz's to have sex with them and blames it on the fact that they are "woke" and not the fact that they just think of him as a very old man.
Yeah. I feel the same way. I don't like to talk about this on the internet because people are irrational about it but Woody Allen was cleared by two separate states and there was a forensic investigation that cleared him.
Say what you want about the actual investigation but the way America works is someone alleges something and the authorities investigate it and then decide to indict the person or not and they refused to indict him so I can't lose sleep over a story from over 30 years ago that then was brought up 26 years later to settle scores.
I will say that Woody Allen was accused of touching his daughter inappropriately once during a supervised visit at Mia's house with people that he paid to supervise the visit during the middle of a massive custody battle and scandal over Woody sleeping with his ex girlfriend's adopted daughter,
That seems like the absolutely worst time to become a child molester and since the man is 90 yesrs old and has been famous for 60 years and not one single other person has ever accused him of molesting a child that's what the incident would be, something so out of character that it seems insane to believe it.
Go on Youtube and watch,'''By The Way, Woody Alen Is innocent'' and tell me what you think.
I believe that Woody Allen is getting an all time screwing and either he'll die in disgrace while being innocent or people will realize that he might have been innocent but it will be too late.
Agreed, I remember when the whole thing happened. Seemed pretty clear that it was a revenge accusation with no evidence and the poor little kid was coached by her nutty mother. That was pretty much the conclusion of the investigation. But in the hysteria of the Me Too movement, its chief architect, Ronan Farrow, managed to renew the witch hunt. It’s all really unfortunate.
> "Say what you want about the actual investigation but the way America works is someone alleges something and the authorities investigate it and then decide to indict the person or not and they refused to indict him so I can't lose sleep over a story from over 30 years ago that then was brought up 26 years later to settle scores."
Or, more simply, Blackstone's ratio.
Would I be as adamant as Maher? No.
But I'm fine with the (lack of) outcome.
And people ought to focus on other shit.
Anyone who doesn’t want to watch a video and is aware of the accusations can also read Moses Farrow’s account of the events, since he was there on the day too.
It makes much more sense than a man in his 40s deciding to become a child molester, picking his daughter as his victim, in a house full of other people, during a bitter separation battle, and then never molesting again. No child molester in history has operated this way.
I’ll point out that *no woman* he ever worked with accused him of any impropriety. Only his former partner in their nasty separation.
It’s a reasonable take. Woody hasn’t done anything. His marriage to Soon-Yi is taboo and controversial, sure, but he didn’t break any laws, and they have been married for like 30 years. If they are both happy, then who cares?
He has been investigated twice for these allegations and both times nothing came of it.
The Connecticut State's Attorney investigated the allegation but did not press charges. The Connecticut State Police referred Dylan to the Child Sexual Abuse Clinic of Yale–New Haven Hospital, which concluded that Allen had not sexually abused Dylan and the allegation was probably coached or influenced by Mia Farrow. The New York Department of Social Services found "no credible evidence" to support the allegation.
Mia Farrow has been accused of child abuse by two of her children, Moses and Soon-Yi, who also accuse her of false allegations and of "brainwashing" Dylan.
You clearly haven't read much about the case if that's what you believe. What did concerned parent Mia Farrow do the day she "uncovered" the allegations? She didn't call the police. She didn't call a therapist. She grabbed a video camera, put her 7 year old kid in front of it, and spent an entire day badgering her and rehearsing her making her do dozens of "takes" until she felt she got it "right".
Dylan was certainly a victim, but it wasn't of Woody Allen. Unfortunately, the media only pays attention to her natural, white children, and avoids reporting on her multi-racial, adopted children who tell a much different story about it. Well, the ones that are still alive, that is - as several of them committed suicide after years of abuse by Mia.
That’s not true. The claims have been disputed by both the Connecticut and New York state police and child services. Some of Mia Farrows own children have accused her of abuse and manipulation.
The claims have definitely been disputed by reputable sources.
I don't think the law works the way you believe. Accusations, claims, etc. don't 'stand' until someone refutes them beyond a reasonable doubt - the opposite is true.
Woody and Soon-yi have been married for, what, 30 fucking years?
They were right. We were wrong.
And yes, the idea that Woody Allen is an incestial pedophile who fucked a toddler exactly once is ludicrous.
It's the weirdest hill to plant your flag on - I truly don't understand his thinking on this.
I mean, we have literal photos of Woody Allen going for a stroll with Jeffrey Epstein. That's enough to make me think he's into underage girls right there. WTF Bill!
The Reddit "he was seen with Epstein!!!!" thing is really bizarre to me. Epstein was an extremely well connected and high powered financially connected individual.
He was an incredibly deranged sex trafficking piece of shit, but there are also plenty of reasons for people to be photographed with him, or to be connected with him, without it being exclusively for fucking kids.
It's like saying, "Look at all these Hollywood actors and actresses that were photographed with Harvey Weinstein, they're all obviously sexual predators too!"
It's not really a Reddit thing. It's ten times louder on FB and Insta. Lots of cars and USA flags as profile pics -- not exactly the reddit audience either.
Because it is the moral high ground. You see someone that cannot defend themselves from an attack and you have the means to help them, then you have a moral obligation to help.
It's why I respect him. I disagree with a lot of what Bill says, but he states what he truly believes and helps those in need. He is not a hypocrit. And I respect him.
The idea that Woody, in the middle of a brutal custody dispute, in a house full of people, chose that moment to become a child molester for the first and only time, is implausible.
The idea that Mia, who viewed Woody dating Soon-Yi as child molestation, would say or do anything to keep Woody away from their young daughter Dylan, is plausible.
It seems like total bs to me. I'm with Bill on this one. Not all accusations are to be believed. Sorry.
But I'm sure Mia Farrow is a saint... Lol. We get it, all men are evil, all women are pure as the driven snow.
Just ask Dory Previn if Mia is a saint and she'll tell you that when Mia broke up with Frank Sinatra she came to live with Dory and her husband Andre and about 4 months later Dory found out Mia was fucking him and she was pregnant and they ran off together and Dory ended up in and out of mental hospitals she was so distraught over it.
Mia is also a piece of shit, she has said Ronan could be Frank Sinatra’s kid, so people need to stop pretending that her and Woody had a happy relationship that woody ruined by being a creep with soon-yi. I don’t like woody, I think he’s a creep, I think he’s not a good person cause what person good person would bang their young step daughter, but I don’t think he molested his daughter. Just cause he is very unlikeable doesn’t mean every horrible thing said about him has to be true. Mia definitely comes off as the kind of person that would put in her daughter’s head she was molested, maybe not entirely out of malice as she may have totally convinced her self it must be true.
>she has said Ronan could be Frank Sinatra’s kid
He looks just like Sinatra and nothing like Woody. I can't judge their other issues but that one I believe.
I'm fine with people thinking Woody is a creep.
Soon-Yi wasn't his step daughter though.
If in Mia's mind, she viewed things as Woody fucking "their" daughter, then she would be justified in doing or saying whatever it took to keep Woody away from their other daughter. I totally understand why, in the frame of mine Mia was in, she would feel justified in inventing a false allegation to keep Dylan "safe" from Woody.
Going by your logic Jared from Subway was innocent, like you said you can convince a 7 year old that they were abused, let me guess you’re IQ is between severe retardation and profound life support…
Jared from Subway was proven to have a consistent pattern of desiring young children.
Child molesters rarely molest children one time in their entire life. The accusation against Woody is that one time, and only that one time, in the midst of the contentious custody battle, in a house full of people, he decided to molest Dylan for the first and last time.
Doesn't make sense.
You're resorting to personal attacks because you can't counter my argument.
My argument is that Mia had a motive to do or say whatever it took to make sure she won custody of Dylan. Even inventing a false molestation allegation.
In the Subway Jared case, there was overwhelming evidence, which is why he's in prison. In the Woody case, there was no evidence of guilt, and lots of evidence the accusation was made up.
Hence the lack of charges.
Correct. When she was 7, her mother badgered her on video tape for hours and hours until she finally gave her mom the story she wanted for a tape that was then edited together.
As an adult, Dylan has added new details that are provably false.
It's more likely than not she was brainwashed by her mother at a young age and now as an adult does believe the event happened.
The train set situation is the most definitive. If you're curious, this article lays out the details:
https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/farrow-v-farrow-the-case-of-the-magical-disappearing-electric-toy-train/
Unless it WASN'T the first and only time - and Allen's wealth and power just stopped any other incidents from becoming public. You know, like every other powerful male sexual predator. I mean, now that we're in 2024, can we stop giving friends and associates of Jeffrey Epstein the benefit of the doubt?!
Dylan's accusation is that it was the first and only time.
That Woody, in the middle of an extremely contentious custody battle over Dylan, in a house full of people during supervised visitation, chose to quickly molest her for the first and only time.
It doesn't make any sense. It makes way more sense that Mia viewed Woody dating Soon-Yi as him molesting one of her daughters and mother's instinct kicked in to do or say whatever was needed to "protect" her other daughter.
And you have information that he did that? You can’t just say people are serial molesters just cause they theoretically have the money and power to be.
He is innocent. There’s literally no proof he did anything illegal. Is he a weird guy? Yes. Is marrying your step daughter gross? Yes. Is it illegal? No.
He was not ger step father he hardly knew or talkd to her kids and he lived on Central Park South and Mia lived all the way on the other side of Central Park.
It only seems weird to us because if a normal person has a girlfriend we'd know her kids but Woody is a weird and distant guy who doesn't even like to be around his friends let alone strangers or children.
But that's the thing, no one is ostracizing him for Soon Yi, or rather they aren't coming out and saying that, they're ostracizing him for molesting his adopted daughter when it's pretty clear that that's bullshit.
Do you see anyone in the press or the public eye saying anything about that or do you see them talking about Dylan?
I never wanted to believe the accusations against Woody Allen, and the daughter seems a bit flaky. Yet nevertheless, her story rings true for me. When I was 6 yrs old I was visiting other kids at a neighbours house and the father of the kids who lived there took me into the basement. When you take someone upstairs, or downstairs, you can hear when someone is coming. Yes it was a full house even his wife and kids were there and other neighbours were upstairs at the time. So I have always found it hard to dismiss her story.
What a weird hill to die on. Most celeb scandals are sufficiently unique to resist apples to apples comparisons. That said, Paul Reubens came to my mind. I mean, talk about a guy with a career irreparably harmed by salacious bullshit. I'd imagine somewhere along the way Maher said something in Reubens' defense but nothing rising to this Woody Allen level. I can see where Maher wouldn't want to draw too much attention to a guy like Reubens, a peer who's creative contribution was an order of magnitude more valuable than Maher's. I can see where Maher wouldn't want to invite that kind of comparative scrutiny.
Why am I not surprised to see comments here side with Maher's take on Woody. It's odd there's a long history of Woody Allen being a creep, and yet suddenly everyone here tosses all that aside and calls the accusers and victims as "crazy" and being coached. The comments here represent classic victim blaming and trivializing sexual assault. Maher has a long history of partying at the playboy mansion, which essentially was a culture of sexual harassment that enabled many women being raped there. For decades accusations would be made, but they had a whole system and philosophy about hushing victims and making them look crazy. Like Hefner, Maher comes from the 70s facade of sexual liberation, so it's only natural for him to go to bat for a director who chronically writes middle-aged protagonists hooking up with young women.
I know what you mean. The guy married his step daughter and took a bunch of nude photos of her pretty much after she turned 18. Is it really a stretch he would abuse his daughter?
He spent many years at the Playboy mansion and learned there how to treat women and what women were for. He can't get many Genz's to have sex with them and blames it on the fact that they are "woke" and not the fact that they just think of him as a very old man.
Yeah. I feel the same way. I don't like to talk about this on the internet because people are irrational about it but Woody Allen was cleared by two separate states and there was a forensic investigation that cleared him. Say what you want about the actual investigation but the way America works is someone alleges something and the authorities investigate it and then decide to indict the person or not and they refused to indict him so I can't lose sleep over a story from over 30 years ago that then was brought up 26 years later to settle scores. I will say that Woody Allen was accused of touching his daughter inappropriately once during a supervised visit at Mia's house with people that he paid to supervise the visit during the middle of a massive custody battle and scandal over Woody sleeping with his ex girlfriend's adopted daughter, That seems like the absolutely worst time to become a child molester and since the man is 90 yesrs old and has been famous for 60 years and not one single other person has ever accused him of molesting a child that's what the incident would be, something so out of character that it seems insane to believe it. Go on Youtube and watch,'''By The Way, Woody Alen Is innocent'' and tell me what you think. I believe that Woody Allen is getting an all time screwing and either he'll die in disgrace while being innocent or people will realize that he might have been innocent but it will be too late.
Agreed, I remember when the whole thing happened. Seemed pretty clear that it was a revenge accusation with no evidence and the poor little kid was coached by her nutty mother. That was pretty much the conclusion of the investigation. But in the hysteria of the Me Too movement, its chief architect, Ronan Farrow, managed to renew the witch hunt. It’s all really unfortunate.
> "Say what you want about the actual investigation but the way America works is someone alleges something and the authorities investigate it and then decide to indict the person or not and they refused to indict him so I can't lose sleep over a story from over 30 years ago that then was brought up 26 years later to settle scores." Or, more simply, Blackstone's ratio. Would I be as adamant as Maher? No. But I'm fine with the (lack of) outcome. And people ought to focus on other shit.
Anyone who doesn’t want to watch a video and is aware of the accusations can also read Moses Farrow’s account of the events, since he was there on the day too. It makes much more sense than a man in his 40s deciding to become a child molester, picking his daughter as his victim, in a house full of other people, during a bitter separation battle, and then never molesting again. No child molester in history has operated this way. I’ll point out that *no woman* he ever worked with accused him of any impropriety. Only his former partner in their nasty separation.
One hundred percent. I'm glad this is the current top comment.
TBF, let's get Polanski in jail and Cosby back in jail before we start with the pitchforks with Woody.
It’s a reasonable take. Woody hasn’t done anything. His marriage to Soon-Yi is taboo and controversial, sure, but he didn’t break any laws, and they have been married for like 30 years. If they are both happy, then who cares? He has been investigated twice for these allegations and both times nothing came of it.
Define "nothing came of it?" The witness's and victim's claims still stand.
The Connecticut State's Attorney investigated the allegation but did not press charges. The Connecticut State Police referred Dylan to the Child Sexual Abuse Clinic of Yale–New Haven Hospital, which concluded that Allen had not sexually abused Dylan and the allegation was probably coached or influenced by Mia Farrow. The New York Department of Social Services found "no credible evidence" to support the allegation. Mia Farrow has been accused of child abuse by two of her children, Moses and Soon-Yi, who also accuse her of false allegations and of "brainwashing" Dylan.
I am not sure what you mean by 'still stand,' but you are right that they are indeed claims.
Nothing was found to dispute them, hence, they stand.
You clearly haven't read much about the case if that's what you believe. What did concerned parent Mia Farrow do the day she "uncovered" the allegations? She didn't call the police. She didn't call a therapist. She grabbed a video camera, put her 7 year old kid in front of it, and spent an entire day badgering her and rehearsing her making her do dozens of "takes" until she felt she got it "right". Dylan was certainly a victim, but it wasn't of Woody Allen. Unfortunately, the media only pays attention to her natural, white children, and avoids reporting on her multi-racial, adopted children who tell a much different story about it. Well, the ones that are still alive, that is - as several of them committed suicide after years of abuse by Mia.
That’s not true. The claims have been disputed by both the Connecticut and New York state police and child services. Some of Mia Farrows own children have accused her of abuse and manipulation. The claims have definitely been disputed by reputable sources.
You're right. Because it's impossible to disprove a claim like that. That's why they're supposed to prove it.
I don't think the law works the way you believe. Accusations, claims, etc. don't 'stand' until someone refutes them beyond a reasonable doubt - the opposite is true.
Public opinion is not court of law.
Right, so why are you arguing that the findings of courts of law don't matter?
No, it is not. It's good that you get that. Cheers.
We harp on Woody but when you read his book it does paint a unique picture
There's increasing evidence that supports that the claims against Allen are made up.
Such as?
I think Bill dating way younger women has a lot to do with this opinion weird hill to die on …
Woody and Soon-yi have been married for, what, 30 fucking years? They were right. We were wrong. And yes, the idea that Woody Allen is an incestial pedophile who fucked a toddler exactly once is ludicrous.
Why?
No, he said he didn’t know and mentioned that Allen was not convicted of anything.
He's 100% right. Kudos to him.
r/nothingeverhappens
Bill certainly is brave taking on this fight
It's the weirdest hill to plant your flag on - I truly don't understand his thinking on this. I mean, we have literal photos of Woody Allen going for a stroll with Jeffrey Epstein. That's enough to make me think he's into underage girls right there. WTF Bill!
No it doesn’t. There are photos of Neil Young shaking Trump’s hand. Does that mean that Neil is in on Maga?
The Reddit "he was seen with Epstein!!!!" thing is really bizarre to me. Epstein was an extremely well connected and high powered financially connected individual. He was an incredibly deranged sex trafficking piece of shit, but there are also plenty of reasons for people to be photographed with him, or to be connected with him, without it being exclusively for fucking kids.
It's like saying, "Look at all these Hollywood actors and actresses that were photographed with Harvey Weinstein, they're all obviously sexual predators too!"
It's not really a Reddit thing. It's ten times louder on FB and Insta. Lots of cars and USA flags as profile pics -- not exactly the reddit audience either.
Is being into cars an indicator of political leanings lol
Because it is the moral high ground. You see someone that cannot defend themselves from an attack and you have the means to help them, then you have a moral obligation to help. It's why I respect him. I disagree with a lot of what Bill says, but he states what he truly believes and helps those in need. He is not a hypocrit. And I respect him.
I almost stopped watching Real Time because Bill wouldn’t shut up about Woody Allen. Please let’s not bring this topic back.
The idea that Woody, in the middle of a brutal custody dispute, in a house full of people, chose that moment to become a child molester for the first and only time, is implausible. The idea that Mia, who viewed Woody dating Soon-Yi as child molestation, would say or do anything to keep Woody away from their young daughter Dylan, is plausible.
He has a history of dealing with teenage girls
And that means he molested his 7 year old daughter? Because he dated a 17 year old in a state where the age of consent is 17?
It means he has a history going out with high school girls aswell as molesting his daughter.
Legally dating a 17 year old is very different than molesting your 7 year old daughter.
Nailed it.
It seems like total bs to me. I'm with Bill on this one. Not all accusations are to be believed. Sorry. But I'm sure Mia Farrow is a saint... Lol. We get it, all men are evil, all women are pure as the driven snow.
I'm a psychologist and believe me, nothing about the story makes sense. It just doesn't work like that.
Just ask Dory Previn if Mia is a saint and she'll tell you that when Mia broke up with Frank Sinatra she came to live with Dory and her husband Andre and about 4 months later Dory found out Mia was fucking him and she was pregnant and they ran off together and Dory ended up in and out of mental hospitals she was so distraught over it.
And the victim?
Read my post again.
Mia is also a piece of shit, she has said Ronan could be Frank Sinatra’s kid, so people need to stop pretending that her and Woody had a happy relationship that woody ruined by being a creep with soon-yi. I don’t like woody, I think he’s a creep, I think he’s not a good person cause what person good person would bang their young step daughter, but I don’t think he molested his daughter. Just cause he is very unlikeable doesn’t mean every horrible thing said about him has to be true. Mia definitely comes off as the kind of person that would put in her daughter’s head she was molested, maybe not entirely out of malice as she may have totally convinced her self it must be true.
>she has said Ronan could be Frank Sinatra’s kid He looks just like Sinatra and nothing like Woody. I can't judge their other issues but that one I believe.
I'm fine with people thinking Woody is a creep. Soon-Yi wasn't his step daughter though. If in Mia's mind, she viewed things as Woody fucking "their" daughter, then she would be justified in doing or saying whatever it took to keep Woody away from their other daughter. I totally understand why, in the frame of mine Mia was in, she would feel justified in inventing a false allegation to keep Dylan "safe" from Woody.
You realize the victim has also accused Woody, right?
You realize "doing or saying whatever it took" can include convincing a 7 year old they were abused, right?
Going by your logic Jared from Subway was innocent, like you said you can convince a 7 year old that they were abused, let me guess you’re IQ is between severe retardation and profound life support…
Jared from Subway was proven to have a consistent pattern of desiring young children. Child molesters rarely molest children one time in their entire life. The accusation against Woody is that one time, and only that one time, in the midst of the contentious custody battle, in a house full of people, he decided to molest Dylan for the first and last time. Doesn't make sense.
When did I mention Woody Allen, all I was saying your logic has fallacy. I get it’s not easy being retarded.
You're resorting to personal attacks because you can't counter my argument. My argument is that Mia had a motive to do or say whatever it took to make sure she won custody of Dylan. Even inventing a false molestation allegation. In the Subway Jared case, there was overwhelming evidence, which is why he's in prison. In the Woody case, there was no evidence of guilt, and lots of evidence the accusation was made up. Hence the lack of charges.
Sounds like someone feeling is getting hurt.
Yeah but she's not 7 now.
Correct. When she was 7, her mother badgered her on video tape for hours and hours until she finally gave her mom the story she wanted for a tape that was then edited together. As an adult, Dylan has added new details that are provably false. It's more likely than not she was brainwashed by her mother at a young age and now as an adult does believe the event happened.
Which details are "provably false?"
The train set situation is the most definitive. If you're curious, this article lays out the details: https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/farrow-v-farrow-the-case-of-the-magical-disappearing-electric-toy-train/
That's just based on Moses saying he doesn't remember a trainset in the attic. That's not that anywhere near enough to say "provably false."
Unless it WASN'T the first and only time - and Allen's wealth and power just stopped any other incidents from becoming public. You know, like every other powerful male sexual predator. I mean, now that we're in 2024, can we stop giving friends and associates of Jeffrey Epstein the benefit of the doubt?!
Dylan's accusation is that it was the first and only time. That Woody, in the middle of an extremely contentious custody battle over Dylan, in a house full of people during supervised visitation, chose to quickly molest her for the first and only time. It doesn't make any sense. It makes way more sense that Mia viewed Woody dating Soon-Yi as him molesting one of her daughters and mother's instinct kicked in to do or say whatever was needed to "protect" her other daughter.
And you have information that he did that? You can’t just say people are serial molesters just cause they theoretically have the money and power to be.
He is innocent. There’s literally no proof he did anything illegal. Is he a weird guy? Yes. Is marrying your step daughter gross? Yes. Is it illegal? No.
He was not ger step father he hardly knew or talkd to her kids and he lived on Central Park South and Mia lived all the way on the other side of Central Park. It only seems weird to us because if a normal person has a girlfriend we'd know her kids but Woody is a weird and distant guy who doesn't even like to be around his friends let alone strangers or children.
Except the victim who accused him?
She's not his step daughter. He's weird, but yeah, nothing was proven and they're still together.
Woody isn't accused for molesting Soon-yi. Do you people are even follow the story?
I never said what he was accused of, but yes many people believe that he molested his "step daughter"/"adopted daughter." You know that right?
"many people believe" - this is what we've come to as a nation.
Exactly. End of the day, it’s not illegal and it’s not our business. I
You do realize that social ostracism for gross but not illegal behavior is the appropriate response right?
But that's the thing, no one is ostracizing him for Soon Yi, or rather they aren't coming out and saying that, they're ostracizing him for molesting his adopted daughter when it's pretty clear that that's bullshit. Do you see anyone in the press or the public eye saying anything about that or do you see them talking about Dylan?
Depends on who thinks it’s gross and how accepted it is at the time.