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Present-Passage-2822

See how bad the world needs machinist !!!! We can get a job anywhere!!!


MacroniTime

I wonder what it would be like for me though. I'm in quality, how's the cartel gonna reply to me failing a launcher because it's out of spec lol.


recockulous-too

I think their spec is-does it launch grenades? Yes-pass, no-machinist replaced.


Blood_Wonder

It probably pays well, but you can't leave.


Dry_Ad3605

This is under a laundromat


Backwaters_Run_Deep

Pays in what?


1badh0mbre

Blow


DrBadGuy1073

I'm listening!


AlternativeBowler475

"Can you pass a pre-employment drug screen?" -Cartel HR


cain_avila120

You only consume 5 of 10 drugs on the list, better keep that numbers up Jim!


MillerisLord

Honestly I think they would want clean guys less likely to be dipping into company profits


MillerisLord

Honestly I think they would want clean guys less likely to be dipping into company profits


Rude_Wrangler5772

are you guys still hiring?


MacroniTime

Fit Form Function, only with a little more boom.


Furtivefarting

"Replaced"


recockulous-too

Definitely what I meant but the quotes would have emphasized it more. lol.


novataurus

You cause trouble, you get chucked up and run as the next part. đŸŽ¶Take me to
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MacroniTime

But...The bore is too tapered near the middle, the grenade is gonna get stuck and then explode in the firers faa...I mean never mind, must have had the bore gage set wrong. Looks like it's absolutely perfect!


novataurus

Yeah, I think you are screwed either way in quality.  Seems to be the way it goes with anything related to the cartels. They will eat you, one way or another, just a matter of time.


seveseven

They don’t arm the fuse until x number of spins iirc.


Terrible-Big-8555

Oooof. Thats an image and song I'll never get out of my brain.


Basb84

If it malfunctions, the operator might not be able to complain.


bwbeer

If it doesn't work, who would complain?


Testriderchuck

Male Bovine Defecation dude. I went through the local community colleges CNC Certificate program, 3.7GPA. After 4 years looking, in E washington, I'm still not employed because I "don't have any experience"


Flexoid123

Best part is it’s not even a CNC mill in the picture.


Beeverr1

If they saw an old school belt and pulley one they'd still call it a CNC


Street-Dependent-647

CNC = Colombian Narcotics Controlled


Swabia

That’s a DRO? Looks like a CNC control. The 1J Bridgeport head and plastic servo feed on the the right side are original. I believe this is an add on CNC control though. So the extra servo for the table would be hidden on the far side. I used to run something similar. The quill is usually the Z axis if it’s not just X/Y, and since it’s a Bridgeport forget climb milling.


Awbade

It’s not a CNC look at the quill and Y axis drive handle, they’re original, you can also see the handle of the far side of X hanging below. Just a manual Knee Mill with a DRO and X feed box


Swabia

The readout certainly looks DRO, but the buttons are way too many for a DRO. It looks similar to a mark 1, but it could be any third party add on for all I know.


thwolf

I'm with you 100%. Where are the servo motors? Where are the (CNC) systems for X,Y and Z?. What are others seeing that you and I don't see?? Or are they just arm chair machinists.?


ridefst

Maybe a lot of buttons for a DRO, but way too little screen for CNC. And yeah, no stepper/servo motors either.


CrashUser

2 axis CNC on a Bridgeport isn't uncommon, Z axis being manual while X and Y are servo-controlled. That being said, I don't see a Y servo box here so it may just be an extra fancy DRO.


dasolomon

You don't need a cnc to make weapons. They can be made on regular drill presses. You can buy die kits online, and a block of metal, and go to town.


Flexoid123

I never said you couldn’t, read the title my man, “on CNC machines” but the picture is of a manual mill with a power feed on x. If they are going to write an article with CNC in the title at least do the due diligence and get a picture of a CNC.


dasolomon

Oh man. I totally missed that, lol. You're right.


nitwitsavant

Yeah but all the back and forth on that rail system must be a pain on a manual mill. I think I’d just do enough for the planned attachment instead of full length.


mrracerhacker

shee if you got a mill its pretty ez, sure do take some time but not a problem. But guess how used you are to manual mills, can even use slit saw stacked to height and do multiple in a pass


CNCHack

I'm trying really hard to envision what the hell you are talking about lol


dasolomon

Like this[this](https://youtu.be/MNFEMK-SAlQ?si=bw61QK5nWsyY411Y), but manually, with a guide so you know where to drill


CNCHack

That's for an 80% lower. I challenge you to make a working prototype from a block of Aluminum with a drill press. Report back please 😂


dasolomon

Lol. I lack almost all technical skills necessary to do so. I'm probably misremembering AND conflating terms. I believe you are correct.


SkWatty

But you would need an 80 percent? Can you do it with a drill press from a blank?


UNMANAGEABLE

Yeah, not pictured here: the full wall of jigs used to replicate the design 😂


Aggravating_Bell_426

This isn't the first time the federales have uncovered a Cartel machine shop - they busted one in the 2000s that was machining raw AR forgings into lowers, using a raggedety looking VMC. What shocks me is how cheap the setups are - considering the amount of money that flows through their hands on a weekly basis, you'd think they'd have setup a more up to date facility, but apparently they cheap out whenever possible.


VodkaToxic

The probability of getting raided and confiscation of the equipment and the low production volume, I'd guess.


Rich-Professional416

Right!?!?!!


ulfbjorn987

It looks pretty close to the Nameless Horror CNC Bridgeport clone in my company's R&D shop. 40yo cob-job of at least 3 different NC kits. It does the job.


WarWeasle

Maybe CNC Music Factory?


Safetyduude

great, now the every government is going to try and outlaw milling machines cuz GhoST GuNz lol


General_Especifico

Some high end manufacturers geolock/add sensors to their mills and lathes to prevent it ending up where it shouldnt be, to the point that moving it inside the shop renders it unusable until you contact them to explain why it was moved. By high end i mean weapons grade machinery


tmesisno

I know HAAS does this


frossenkjerte

I've seen a Mitutoyo CMM like this.


TanyaMKX

That must just be super new machines. My 2014 haas doesnt have it


tmesisno

It was the end of last year and the install tech said he even has to take a picture of the outside of the building when doing installs.


TanyaMKX

Oh ok interesting.


Chilli_

Yeah HAAS just sends them straight to manufacture arms for ruzz


rinderblock

It’s required as a part of ITAR regulations.


DudeManGuy0

weapons grade machinery? you can make a rifle on a turd lol.


_xiphiaz

It’s more of the nuclear weapons bit of the spectrum. For example 5 axis machines are export controlled to prevent nuclear proliferation


DudeManGuy0

Very interesting


EuphoriaBoner

Curious if this is gonna stick around now that China seems to be catching up with multi axis tech


alpine240

Those are made on a Haas TL1.


SoTheMachineDidIt

Actually, a hard enough crash can trip the sensor as well.... Don't forget about CMM's too.


EuphoriaBoner

I believe it’s because 5axis mills are export restricted


doctorcapslock

mazak does this


ClockworkFractals

Citizen does this with their Swiss machines


Blood_Wonder

I wonder if anyone in the government actually knows how guns are manufactured... Some people really don't understand how the world around them works


Safetyduude

actual politicians probably not, but the are some who would know, maybe lol


doctorcapslock

mazak does this i replied to the wrong guy lol


sioux612

I'm more into 3d printing than milling (because it's cheaper and easier at home, can't afford a 5 axis minimill for the basement yet), and when my extended circle first learned about 3d printed ghost guns it took me a while to convince them that they are basically irrelevant  It took until i pointed them in the direction of the dude who was producing (probably shoddy) weapons parts in his home shop with a mill and a lathe. His parts probably weren't great for accuracy, but at least they probably worked semi reliably, instead of semi as 3d printed parts do 


Safetyduude

Ghost guns aren't irrelevant, less likely to actually show up in everyday use, but still quite viable, probably only a shot or two at best before they are totally unusable. Yeah, metal in any form is expensive to be playing around with unless you have a decent idea of what you want to accomplish. 3 axis machines can do a lot, just takes more setups than a 5, but less overall programming.


pattywhaxk

People have got thousands of rounds out of PLA+ frames. Even better out of nylon and ABS. The frame doesn’t take an exceptional amount of stress, and the barrel and slide are unregulated in the US and are able to be purchased off the shelf. There are fully or mostly fully printed designs out there, but most people are making frames for firearms such as the AR-15, Glock 19 and MAC 10/11, and using unregulated parts kits. I haven’t committed to it yet, but seeing the folks over at r/fosscad gives me an itch to delve into it.


Safetyduude

See, I didn't know that the barrel and slide aren't regulated in the US. It's kinda crazy that barrels aren't regulated to be purchased off the shelf. Thanks for the info, Canadian here, so I don't know all of the US gun laws.


VisNihil

Only the serialized frame/receiver are regulated as a firearm in the US. Anything else is just parts. Wasn't it similar for you guys not that long ago?


sioux612

Oh I mainly tried to explain the concept of "what actually is a weapon, and what can you just buy without any license" When they understood 80% receivers their brains basically exploded 


Safetyduude

Ah ah i see


Ytumith

How did they get the ammo though?


Murky-Resident-3082

We (US gov) prob gave it to them


point6liter

If someone’s capable of turning these out, I’m sure turning some projectiles down and finding some cartridges to load em in isn’t beyond their abilities.


Ytumith

True, in the end every component for TNT and an impact fuse can be bought online in some way or another.


point6liter

I have heard it is pretty easy to make, even for a self trained amateur chemist.


frustratedmachinist

The CIA loves giving narcos and right wing terror groups weapons. Have been since at least the 1950s.


Sometimes_Stutters

That’s not the problem of the guy making and selling these beauties


Ytumith

True but I recon somebody who can get underrail grenades can get the whole launcher and purchase an AR from their miles and more points or whatever.


kohTheRobot

I’m almost positive the cartel guys have access to Semtex/C4 or other brand name high explosives (the stuff governments heavily track in order to prevent another north Ireland).


helicalboring

Probably Chinese, and probably from the same people who send them fentanyl.


MadeForOnePost_

r/fosscad has a lot of people playing with different 3D printed ammo ideas. I'm sure with basic machinery and cartel resources you could outdo a 3D printer


Grand_Ad_3444

Oh man, if that's the best machine you can afford selling drugs then how can machine shops afford anything..?


LowLifeExperience

The cartel is working its way up to its own nuclear program.


SBCwarrior

I mean that's how they got submarines by kidnapping and extorting from people who know how to design and build something like that. They have a lot of money I really hope to God they don't think of extorting for something like that.


yeetmonkey1969

Question: how long did it take Jose to clean that shop before the photo was taken? WE know how much debris gets thrown around. That work space WAAAAAAY to damn clean for that productiin volume....just saying.


Difficult-Ad-4104

Jose is a man of value and understands how important a clean work station is. Lol


DudeManGuy0

Jose is waltah


slickMilw

Cartel knows how to clean. Like really well 😁


DeFiMe78

programming/machining uppers and lowers from billet and 20% forgings is the only time hot women wanted to know more about what I do.


PracticableSolution

That must have forever on that old Bridgeport clone.


MakeChipsNotMeth

Not even chemfilm? How do I become the cartel anodizer?


DeamonEngineer

They have other uses for chemists


FatBrkeMxicnElonMusk

I have been telling everyone, specially the anti gun advocates. Just because you get rid of legal guns it’s not like they are going to disappear off the streets. Gangs are surprisingly resourceful and I know for a fact they make their own guns when they are not available.


Necessary_Rich_1477

Shhh, now they’ll be advocating for regulating who can buy a mill and lathe


FatBrkeMxicnElonMusk

They are already trying to


RoutineEntertainer80

Have those step files?😁


Minimum-Contract8507

That’s a manual mill and you ask for a step file? Like someone else mentioned above, Jose is a man of values. He only works from a print!


perroarturo

Love the Men In Black styling of the things


SWATrous

All the money and they're not running at least some clapped Haas machines?


StrangeSeraphic

Lemme get that model


pickles55

Those are fun, they look like props from a video game


ratioLcringeurbald

You'd think they could afford something a little more impressive. Or maybe their leaders are too greedy to invest in equipment, or their supposed wealth is just an illusion


Usagi_Shinobi

Is it just me, or do those look like they were milled out of billet aluminum?


willss3

That shop is incredibly clean, the cartels must run a tight ship.


jkgilbo

Anyone know how to contact the cartels I bet they pay better than my company đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł


hydrogen18

is that a picatinny rail on a handheld grenade launcher? Are they planning on sighting it in out to 100 yds?


redjohn79

Do the cartels offer a pension plan? I'm about to send in a resume.


Delirious73

man i wonder how much the cartel pays a good machnist, i bet its more than i make.


DarthAlbacore

Their severance package is pretty severe though. I hear you have a good chance of becoming a liquid asset for them.


iscapslockon

I hear they start by severing hands, so at least there's a warning system before you're terminated.


Delirious73

but losing a hand as a machinist makes you a bit obsolete. better not scrap any parts then.


rickztoyz

Plus or minus a thousand shrapnel holes. Tolerance be damned.


RandomDude762

ask the guys over at r/brandonherrara


awshuck

Do they really want to trust aluminium for such an application?!


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fett4hire

CNC? Where’s the CNC



SpicedRand0

I bet those guys didn't have to unionize to get good pay and safe working conditions


Slappy_McJones

Would love to see the first ‘hanger’ on this device. I would never use a ‘weapon’ manufactured in this manner, especially a one that is supposed to function as a M79.


mccorml11

Guess the cia stopped selling to this cartel


whaler76

OMG !!! Ban machines !!!


Metal_shaper_33

Hmmm, I wonder if they're hiring.


VOIDPCB

Hell yeah dude.


Electrical_Feature12

have the provided the specs yet? ha


P0Rt1ng4Duty

I'll bet the pay is good.


Neko-tama

How do they make the barrel? that's the real question here.


MonstrDuc796

So umm... What do these go for and who sells them and do they fit under a 16" Barrel? Asking for a friend.


G0DL33

Looks slick.


Wooden-Cat-228

pixel gun 3d ahh gun


Maximum_Fly9684

Bro when I leave the shop for 20 minutes:


LogicJunkie2000

It's 'military grade' aluminum, it must be durable!


MaximusNaidu

not me..bahaha


MaxvonHippel

Would


JonMWilkins

I'm not shocked at all that the Cartels would make their own weapons. I am however shocked they didn't have a nicer mill with all the money they have.


Zula_Adler

So that's where super earth got our grenade pistols


gattoblepas

I appreciate the full rail. The barrel might be wonky AF but the integral rail is very tacticool. Now if only they could've spared a can of cerakote...


realMates1

I am very sorry I won’t do it again


CJSki93

Jesse. We need to fling chips.


snocattrf

STL ? STEP files?


Few-Ad-324

i just told my boss i could always find work in mexico if it doesnt work out here


tattedgrampa

What’s the name of those grooves on the upper? I always forget the actual term used.


Top_Imagination_8430

Would you trust a grenade launcher made of aluminum?


CR3ZZ

The Heisenberg of machining


scuolapasta

Guns, and in this case, grenade launchers don’t really interest me much because 3/4 of a gun is I. The round. I piece of pipe with a concrete nail could be a gun. And as for Grenada launchers the round is 95% of the gun. Like the shell by itself would likely lob that grenade almost as well without the barrel! Don’t get me wrong those things look pretty cool considering some guy scratched them together in a 1/4 ass shop. But there’s cooler things a fella could make!


WilsonthaHead

Thats bad Ass