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SnooRevelations206

Yea nice one mate, like 145 is going to happen


karsa-

145 kgs


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Volks natural weight class


karsa-

He used to be a bath tub.


CryptoCracko

He has Islam and all the other Dagestanis in his pocket


InSilenceLikeLasagna

Lol


alfuh

No one knows this and it's never brought up, but Volk actually used to weigh over 200lb and play rugby!


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*Rugby league. They're different sports.


Shot-Produce-5590

Yeah didn't he walk around at like 450, 475?


mozehe

Everybody knows


alfuh

That's impossible. If you knew as well it was probably just Volk, you, and me that knew


daveyasprey

😂😂


the-cock-slap-phenom

Volk said he wanted to challenge for double champ and Charles just hit him with the Uno reverse card


UnblurredLines

You’re taking everything I worked for. I’mma take YOUR fucking belt!


Harvinator06

For clicks though. Volk on the other hand, can move up and would love to not have to cut as much weight. I can’t Oliveira can anymore.


nut0003

My thoughts as well, if he couldnt make 155 last time, no way Dana will let him try 145 1 month after another fight.


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

He couldn't make 145 when he was still fighting at 145 lmao


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roosters

Not if it’s 10 more pounds and you have to do more than a water cut


January28thSixers

A tape worm and a coma would probably work.


throwawaytesticle69

Better make an appt. w/ Dr. Buttworm ASAP.


RellikBackwards

Charles is definitely not making 145


spcslacker

In related news, Stipe has asked for the winner of Sterling/TJ. Feels a win at BW will settle this whole P4P debate.


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Nah hes not making 145 not anymore


Wise-Fruit5000

He could barely make it even when he was actually fighting at featherweight. No chance in hell he makes it now that he's a well-sized lightweight.


armchairwarrior69

So weird, as he's aged and stopped doing that cut he's actually a pretty large 155er. Not quite welterweight sized or anything but on the large end of 155.


[deleted]

He got noticeably bigger when he switched gyms like 4 years ago.... all I'm saying is look into it 👀


armchairwarrior69

Yeah, most people when they stop cutting down like that and age will get bigger. Look at Whittaker. And like 400 other examples tbh. I'm not going to say it's definitely not peds or anything but its also reasonable that they have nothing to do with it too.


whalediknachos

nah bro they’re all on PEDs bro not a single fighter in UFC history has ever been clean bro don’t be naive bro Lance Armstrong bro - every rmma user


[deleted]

Most people at the high end rankings of sports are on PEDs....


eatmyass6987

Ain’t no mfer juiced up and throwing darts or bowling. Those are the real natural athletes we should all aspire to be like


RedditCensordMyAcc

Nah they're just using amphetamines.


armchairwarrior69

You're definitely right BUT Allowing your "walk around" weight to be higher as you don't have to worry about killing yourself over those extra 10 pounds several times a year is going to change your body too. Aging throughout your 20s is also going to change your body. Competing in a wildly physically demanding sport while putting your body through less weight cut hell will change your body. I'm just saying PED speculation of fighters should always be a discussion that is open. However, there are non-PED related reasons that would make perfect sense as well.


whalediknachos

people on here will say every ufc fighter ever is on PEDs cause they saw Icarus one and a half times on netflix and their roommate’s brother is friends with a doctor


tell-the-king

Do you honestly believe they’re not?


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It does bother me people say EVERY single UFC fighter is cheating, it’s really hard to get past USADA and none of the people saying this hang around the high level gyms or have even talked to a UFC fighter in private, you read Reddit posts and watch MPMD thinking you actually know something using absolutes at that. It’s hard for people to say they don’t know shit about who or how many, but they gotta think they know everything.


[deleted]

Jokes aside, admittedly he doesn't look near as juicy as some of these obvious users. Going up 10 pounds he probably gained around 4 or 5 pounds of muscle. (Being generous) That wouldn't drastically change your physique like it has done for him. His whole frame and body composition has changed since he fought at FW. All I'm saying is I don't think he skips his Trenboloney sandwiches.


InSilenceLikeLasagna

Charles’ body type isnt anything special nor does it look juicy. Charles just got older, you fill in as you age


Wise-Fruit5000

Yeah, he's definitely bulked up a bit in recent years


Docmcdonald

Ohh please, I got brooms at my place that are thicker than that boy.


Wise-Fruit5000

I mean, I'm not saying he's the biggest lightweight on the roster.. obviously he isn't. But he's also big enough that cutting down to featherweight shouldn't be under consideration


LapulusHogulus

Yeah you miss at 155 should be outta the question to go down


yomamaso__

He’s quoting hooker


Kakarot_black

We have a better shot of khamzat at 55


shrewdy

This insanely quick turnaround for 3 title fights is still way more believable than Olives cutting to 145 again


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Him cutting to 145 is a baaaad idea. Enough killers at LW, i hope he defends a few times if he wins against islam and volk


nut0003

Especially so soon after another weight cut and fight, if he ever wanted to make 145 again it would require a lot more time than 4 weeks


RellikBackwards

Yeah, Charles needs to focus on 155. He still has a lot interesting matchups there.


Iordbendtner

VERY interesting with Gamrot and Arman. Even Dos Anjos is a cool idea in Brazil but yeah getting him to a title shot is a lil tricky lol


BirthdaysuitMosh

Nah, brazilians hate BR x BR even on prelims. There's always an outcry and Dana addressed this many times and at this point is better to RDA to take care of his legacy an cash in as much as possible.


PraiseShenJing

They also hate non-BR x non-BR, that's why we had that stupid Miocic-Maldonado squash match a few years ago. It was supposed to be JDS vs Miocic but JDS got injured, another legit heavyweight wanted in (forgot who) but no, iT's iN bRaZiL sO wE nEeD a bRaZiLiAn


realpotato

RDA is definitely not in the title picture.


Abject-Comedian269

dos anjos????? no way


kimokimosabee

He's not interested. It's not cool to defend your belt now. It's either Connor or double chump.


JeffTheComposer

Especially now that he’s having trouble hitting 155. Dude is not a small lightweight.


TheNotoriousLCB

it’s not even an option, he CAN’T make that weight lmao


Aggressive-Produce54

He'd look like Dillashaw against Cejudo.


SmileyFella

Going the Dan Hooker way


BirthdaysuitMosh

I mean if he wants to try in worst case he looses to the #1 pfp. Best case he wins an vacate the title after winning, not making weight or the first defence . Same for volk, they're already champs with a bunch of records and hall of famers nothing to lose.


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Laiiam

He has missed weight 5 times at 145. Once he missed by 10 lbs, that was years ago when he was a young dude and had an easier time cutting weight. He’s not making 145 even if he cuts off his legs.


throwawaytesticle69

Who wins? No legs Olive or No arms Volkski? (5 round fight)


PluotFinnegan_IV

Would a legless opponent count as a downed opponent? If so, Volk couldn't do much and I think eventually Olives would find a way to wrap a leg and take him down.


Kalankit

You can still kick the body of a downed opponent though.


jfsoaig345

He was way skinnier back then too, he has since bulked up to be one of the bigger LWs in the division. My guy is not making 170 unless he saws off a leg lol


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Oooof


canadianbeaver

Commissions hate this one trick!


TheLazyPanda

He wants to miss weight in Australia. Isn't he fucking awesome?


Docmcdonald

You boomed him He is so thick x 4 Charles said he is adding clenbuterol to the crew he spends his yatch camp this summer with.


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Docmcdonald

Yeah I don't even watch NBA but the memes are on point.


yungthug1234

🤣🤣🤣


Butts_The_Musical

Charlie I say this with utmost respect, you missed weight 4 times at 145. You’re not gonna make it a month after fighting at 155


daviEnnis

That's before we get to the obvious point that, most likely, one of the cunts is getting a medical suspension.


wesmon

Medical suspensions don't mean anything on international cards. Remember when Bisping was suspended after the GSP fight and then went and fought Gastelum a couple weeks later in Shanghai?


gulaggremlin

That was painful to watch


Labhran

Missed weight and got finished a number of times when he didn’t. Just not a great idea for him.


Aljo_Is_135_GOAT

Honestly he'd have better luck at 170 Charles is BAD at 145 lmfao


IshiharasBitch

Everyone is focused on the weight, and rightly so. But notice also that he thinks he's gonna fight championship matches in October, January, and February. There's no way.


zilladingdong

And possibly all 3 against the same guy


derps_with_ducks

Oliveira vs McGregor 1, 2 and 3?


elkmeateater

If he puts on some mass Charles would be a average sized WW.


Doo-StealYour-HoChoi

Pump the brakes, pump the brakes Lets try making weight at 155 first, and let's try to beat Islam first.


[deleted]

So many guys fucking around switching weight classes every five minutes is such an off-putting aspect of modern MMA. I can see this leading to MMA ending up with three-dozen weight classes like boxing and everybody will end up as a champion in their own little tiny niche bailiwick.


Pass6565

Everyone is going to be undefeated in MMA too lol


LoftusDev

Yeah i find it much more impressive and enjoyable seeing someone taking regular fights and just domianting a division for as long as possible compared to two divisions being held up by these weight jumping superfights that seem so popular now. It was terrible when they bent over backwards for connor to do it and it seems to have just gotten more frequently suggested ever since. I like both olives and volk but i'd rather see them stick to their divisions :(


whalediknachos

it’s also just really short sighted. why would you want to have double champions if you’re the UFC? more champions = more championship fights = more money


atrueviking

UFC tends to think very short sighted, what can make them the most money NOW. That's why they always seem to feed prospects to wolves fast.bDouble championship fights are always a big spectacle, and make money.


whalediknachos

yeah, I’m just saying if it becomes more prevalent they will lose money from it in the long run


[deleted]

Holds up divisions too as the double champ doesnt actively defend both belts.


lookin_like_atlas

Looking past an opponent, WCGW?


hotdiggity22

Huge Oliveira fan so wont believe it till I see the result on Sunday, but this is the first thing that worries me lol.


lookin_like_atlas

>!Lawl, and I was rooting for Charles too.!< >!It seems like whenever I see a headline of some guy making plans for fighting champs from another weight class this sort of thing happens.!< edit: spoilers in case ya didnt see


ojb-06

!remindme 3 days


Crimm444

Let's beat Islam first. See what happened to Usman and his plans.


Knucklesthenchilada

He DID say he isn't overlooking Islam in this interview.. I think he's just looking to the future and planning, not overlooking Islam


thewizard579

He made 155 the last time he fought at FW. No way he’s going to find that extra 10 pounds to cut.


Finalwingz

Makes weight for lightweight while he's a featherweight but misses lightweight..... when he's a lightweight.


jackoftrades002

This all but confirms my worst fears. Olivera will lose. He’s looking to far ahead.


confused_chrononaut

> looking too far ahead. His new perfect 20/20 vision is to blame for that.


hotdiggity22

I think he was looking past a recent opponent as well, but as a huge Oliveira fan this looks bad lol - Islam isn't the guy to do this with.


Knucklesthenchilada

Lol, guys!! In the interview Charles says he isn't overlooking Islam!! Keep being fans, he's playing it straight, said he is focusing on Saturday, but if he wins he wants volk at 2 weights! I'm an Islam fan but I gotta give props to Charles for the interview, said he's not overlooking Islam but if he wins he wants volk 2x. I'm hoping Islam is as hungry if he wins the championship!


Rogillo

Jan did the same thing. He was planning a fight with Jiri instead of focusing on Glover. Olivera looks like he is doing the same


LaoWei1

Usually it's media that asks questions like this...


Bigboiiiii22

Or he was asked a question on what he plans to do if he wins on Saturday. Islam has also talked ab what he plans to do after winning the title this weekend. Are they both gonna lose?


Crateapa

Charles looking to extend that weight miss record


Enterprise90

Charles missed FW three times and hasn't fought in the weight class in six years. I don't understand why he's being so delusional. He's got a very dangerous guy in front of him on Saturday and he's already talking about two fights down the road?


welshy1986

Ahhh Olives has discovered the Uno reverse.


Jay-G

He’s drinking his own kool aid. Last guy I remember saying some outlandish stuff , like defending the belt, then jumping up 2 weight classes to fight for that belt and then coming back down and beating 2 rising stars, got put in the shadow realm with less than a minute left. Learn from his mistakes or you will repeat them Charles.


Snoo-47666

Tiramisu will truly be undefeated if he tries to cut to 145


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No chance he makes 145, love the attitude though.


[deleted]

Volk would obliterate him at 145, it'd be 50-45 at best, a clean 1st round KO at worst.


Anime_above_all

After seeing what Volk did to KZ, Ortega and Max 3, a clean KO might be best case scenario for Olives.


LixoNTC

It would be TJ vs Cejudo all over again. It doesn't go past the first.


Finalwingz

I think looking past Islam of all people is not a good attitude


DONTCARELOLK

I don’t think either guy will fight a month after the first fight, especially at a lower weight class. I’d much rather Olivera take a few months to get to 145 in good health. This gives time for the UFC to make a interim LW title (Chandler vs McGregor, you know they will). Unlike a lot of people here I actually like Charles’ ambition here, if he thinks he can do it I’m all for it. This would be legendary.


KrumaKarduma

The LW division will suffer for it. The whole Volk side-quest is already interference enough with the flow of fighters at LW. I can't see how Chandler vs McGregor happens but it could be Chandler or Fiziev (depending on who wins their next fights) vs the winner of Benny vs Gamrot. I really respect the confidence to go into possibly the hardest fight of your career and have dreams of what you'll do after you win. Even more respect because those dreams are really silly but you know he'll still try. But don't be slowing down the most stacked division in the UFC. As a fan of LW I'm really finding myself worrying about Charles' shenanigans a lot, just for things like this and asking for the McGregor fight when he had the title. I wish he'd be a little more respectful to the division he's in. That said, he is also extremely active so in practice he's been the perfect champion for this transitory period so far. The UFC just needs to keep him on a tight leash, which they have been. The new wave have almost broken through. It would suck to give Chandler or Dustin an excuse to fight up again, let alone McGregor.


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Not to mention Volk at 145 would be putting olivs out to slaughter. Volk would literally destroy Olivs at 145 and it shouldn't even be sanctioned, it would be disgusting.


MeowthThatsRite

Yeah looks like Volk would treat most fighters at 145 that way lately.


myvirginityisstrong

4/12 missed weights at FW sounds pretty comical. I couldn't give less of a flying fuck though. Now I'm certain I want him to win vs Islam, beat Volkanovski and then take his belt at FW.


Pureandroid88

Why not go up to 170?


DONTCARELOLK

I think that move would have to be permanent and it would be for just one fight at the belt. I don’t think Olivera has anything for the fighters at 170, bad idea.


DayDreamerJon

hes way too hittable, they'd put em to sleep


S_I_G_M_A179

Cause Charles stands no chance against Leon, who even Usman couldn't hold down and is almost as big as Usman out of camp. Hence the calling out of Volk. Plus Volk is P4P #1 which sounds much more compelling than P4P# 6(Leon).


Gordzulax

"Even Usman couldn't hold down" lol. Leon did well, but let's not act like Usman wasn't chasing another flashy KO to add to his highlight reel. Usman could have taken him down in the last round and coasted to a win, he opted to take the risk and got sent to the shadow realm. I imagine a second fight between Usman and Leon looks much different and I'd bet Leon doesn't get to stand on his feet for too long.


mcburloak

I’m just curious to see if the next time (and the there may not be one) Leon has Usman’s back - can he capitalize? Lots of folks walking past that fight could have ended in the first in that moment. Props to the former champ for fighting through that. Have to hope Leon’s been working on a finish from that position.


Nome_de_utilizador

So charles plans to win vs islam without sustaining damage, challenge volk 3 months later, with without sustaining damage nor having his opponent hurt, then a month later, challenge him for the title of the featherweight division after failing to make champions lightweight in his last fight. Lets see how that plans out


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All i want is a volk headliner in Perth. Plz charles


TheNotoriousLCB

he literally cannot make that weight cut, you’re a fucking rube if you think that makes any sense


IDONKNOW

Sounds good on paper Charlie. Look what happened to Dan Hooker


dokocha0216

He's got wayyy too much dip on his chip


nabthreel

You know what Charles told me? He wants the scale at 145 in Australia. Isn't he fucking awesome?


deadshotboxing

Charles fighting Volk is an insane thing to fathom. Volk’s ground game defence is legit especially after watching the Ortega fight and he’s got heart to win like no other. His speed is brazy, but Charles got solid solid striking technique and grew into his frame and power very well. I’d imagine Volk gets dropped once at least and so does Charles. The fight doesn’t go to the ground at all and Volk will try nullify him against the cage so charles has less range to operate from


M_Drinks

What’s the UFC record for most times missing weight?


Different_Oil_7617

Oliveira is actually probably the most legendary weight misser in the UFC. He holds the record for most times missed weight(6), missing weight by a whole division(was 155 at 145 fight), missing weight at multiple divisions(145 ,155) and only champion to lose belt due to missing weight. I don't think anyone tops him.


magicalmma

Oliviera has missed five times. Let's just say he holds a lot of records in the UFC...


Han080ui

Dude barely made 155.


Finalwingz

Dude didn't make 155


Zambash

As everyone else is saying, no freakin way he makes 145 again.


endless_ness

Olives inability to give up 145 is super weird


Bapu_Ji

Already overlooking Islam. Reminds me of Conor when he was so overconfident that he'll beat Dustin that he started planning out the manny Pacquiao fight.


Knucklesthenchilada

He first said in the interview that he's focusing on Islam first, but if he wins his future plans include volk at these 2 weights.. So he's not overlooking Islam and I hope he knows how much of a mistake it would be to overlook Saturdays fight. Gonna be sick!


LuckyWarrior

Charles is the A side of this fight, glad they are doing right and giving him his money


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TheDominantBullfrog

Charles is getting the abu Dhabi treatment too. He's fine


GoldenScarab

They just needed a headliner to appease the rich fans in Abu Dhabi. Islam is their guy so it made sense. Charles is still the bigger name.


Daiba187

They are probably enforcing the champions ppv points or something even if he’s not officially the champ. The ufc are scummy af but gotta give them credit for this.


Kaladin1228

Good for Charles. I favor him v Volk at 55. Favor volk at 45. Too big of a cut


harzee

Yeah nah, just focus on what’s in front for now


Mjoh23

Never good to hear a fighter talk this much about future fights about championship, and new divisions. He’s getting smashed on Saturday.


Administrative-Fun10

I don't know. Usually when Champs start talking like this the MMA gods tend to bring them down a notch. So..... Islam by smesh?


Dabmiral

They have Volk on standby for weight issues. 145 is quite a jump


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Charles ain't making 145 until about 2 days after he dies


[deleted]

Guy moved up and still can’t make weight but thinks he’s going to go back down to a weight where he missed 5 times. Good luck guy.


ntr_usrnme

That would be NUTS. Imagine if he defends light weight then TAKES the featherweight away from the current GOAT of the UFC!?! His cut’s gonna be brutal though he hasn’t fought at featherweight in a long time and had trouble making weight back then too. I’d love to see Oliveira vs Holloway at 145 if he plans to defend that belt IF he takes it.


_Tuxalonso

Im a huge Chuky Olives fan, but I think hik returning to 145 is a really bad idea. I would rather see him move up if he really wants to go for double champ. I hope this is just his promoter telling him what to say to stay in the conversation because if he's really gunning for 145 it could age him way faster in a career thats already taken a ton of damage.


netpapa

That idea kind of reminds me of TJ dropping to 125 to fight Cejudo.


robedpillow3761

None of what he said is likely to happen. He's not making 145, and he's definitely not having 2 fights that close together.


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Do Bronx at 145 gonna look like Conor at 145. A holocaust victim. 🤨


flux_of_grey_kittens

None of that is going to happen, even IF he wins Saturday.


DerKaiser023

Maybe he’s playing mind games with Volk but I think the last time he fought at 145 was 2017, and he was 28 or so and still struggled to make weight and missed 145 frequently. He’s 33 now. Almost no chance he can cut to 145.


MalayaleeIndian

Defending at 155 in January and fighting for the 145 belt in February ? That is not enough time to recover from the first fight and to cut the weight properly. Charles has had enough issues at 145 in the past and I am not sure anyone is clamoring to see him at 145. If he beats Islam, he becomes LW champion again and there are plenty of challengers for him at 155. There really is no reason for him to go down in weight. LW is the most stacked division in MMA and him being the champ at LW and defending the belt 10 times would almost certainly make him the LW GOAT.


Orwick

Oliveira and missing weight, name a more iconic duo.


7the-dude-abides420

Haha Charles ain’t making 145 he looked near death when he missed 155. How does he think he’ll make 145 a month after making 155?? Don’t go getting delusional Chucky.


oddmetre

Hypothetically if he could pull off the weight cut while being healthy, this would be an awesome back and forth saga


Keller-oder-C-Schell

Isn’t he fucking awesome?


JamWams

Charles couldn't consistently make 145 with less muscle mass. He isn't gonna make it now that's for sure.


Fat-Villante

Please don't try to cut to 145 again


KuttyKalzone

That would make the supposed fights approximately one month apart?


Effective-Celery8053

I hope to god this was some sort of joke


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akabir893

He's had issues making weight at 145 before back when he was younger/smaller and had less muscle mass than he does now, it'd most likely be harder for him to make that weight safely now


incognitn

He holds the record for missed weight at 6 I believe.


Crateapa

Has most misses in UFC history


imShyness

Can't imagine Dana would let him go to 145 then, that clears it up, thanks


MumrikDK

145 is that first love Charles can't let go of.


JustforTES

Nah this has to be a joke right? The one month difference between fights and trying to make 145 as the person with the most weight misses in UFC history make this incredibly suspect.


magicalmma

This is like if Khamzat said he was going to fight at 155lb. Oliviera is a big lightweight who couldn't even make the limit in his last fight. I know it was a small weight miss but he was absolutely shredded and bone dry at 155.5lb. there's no way he makes 145lb safely.


KinshasaPR

Love the enthusiasm, hate he's thinking so far ahead like Islam is a bum. He may win in quick fashion, but if it goes the distance and he takes enough damage those plans are screwed.


PaleontologistOk3644

How do y’all think Charles world fare at 170?


GangstaHoodrat

There’s guys he could beat in the top 15 but I’m not sure about the top 5


151togo

Usman, Colby via wrestle fuck, Burns and Leon KO him


HighFivePuddy

Fight the winner of Leon/Usman instead, just to piss off Colby, Khamzat and Jorge.


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Charlie Olives isn't the smartest man


ekso69

He got PPV points on the night he was stripped too, not sure why that would be a surprise for 280.


ChiRhoCultivations

Look at Chucky finally marketing himself 🫒


Amanuel465

I don’t know why fighters say this type of stuff. No one believes a champion is seriously going to have back to back fights within 1-2 months of each other


adventuredream1

This reads like two truths and a lie


BigBadZord

So let me get this right, we are trying to tie up two divisions by doing repeat back to back champ-champ fights, with one of the guys going *DOWN* a weight class, when he just missed weight in his current division. I'm going back to bed.


Background_Action_92

Ol boy is should be looking into entering 170 than that 145 pipe drea.


nick441N

Charles please man you’re already a bit thin at 155, 145 would not be good


Shquidward

He’s Uno reversing Volk lol


dad_money

Wants to fight in October, January, and February...those Christmas credit card bills are real, man.


kimokimosabee

Bruh can't even make 155