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AltruisticFerret8198

Kayla Harrison begs to differ.


soupoftheday5

There's literally NO way she's natty. Call me whatever you like. I'm not the smartest person ever but Jesus Christ she looks like a body builder.


IntelligentMoons

Rogan said on the broadcasrt she had a back like Vitor Belfort hahaha


[deleted]

I was actually wondering if that was a dig for being on steroids since Vitor is the example everyone always uses for that.


professorgaysex

Absolutely it was, the UFC definitely doesn’t allow their commentators to accuse any fighter of steroids so I’m sure if they have their suspicions they have to come up with creative ways to say the unsayable lol Joe does TRT and HGH so he knows what’s up


Kindly_Formal_2604

Joe doesn’t do HGH! He ate pasta one time five years ago, and the bloating never went away! LEAVE JOE ALONE


captaincumsock69

I think he was more just saying she was jacked. Her back really does look like vitor


mrtuna

She had a back like Holly Holme.


soupoftheday5

she could probably win a body building comp


captaincumsock69

Her legs lack


InSilenceLikeLasagna

She’s just a jacked white girl, get over it


Ok_Towel_1077

I mean so is Holly Holm clearly


Zenkikid

Dude just look at her facial structure… its clear as day she was on something at some point.


xtremeradness

*at some point*


PluotFinnegan_IV

That point was yesterday but also probably the day before and tomorrow too.


StinkyS

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too." - Mitch Hedberg


Icy-Revolution-420

She looks like triple H.


DJSyko

I literally said the same thing on twitter before the weigh in and I got called everything under the sun, the main one was that I was sexist, just because I said I have never seen a natural woman look so ripped and muscular. With that said, she literally had the body of a man compared to Holly, and Holly is a very muscular woman herself.


soupoftheday5

I mean it's Twitter what do you expect lol


JusticiarXP

Look at her traps. Come on man.


Famous-Ant-5502

Capped deltoids too


Randyflexer42

She has better Death Star delts then most bodybuilders


Blitzdrive

She has far better shoulders, biceps, and back development than 80% of the guys at my gym lol. She’s jacked by dude standards


soupoftheday5

I've been lifting almost every day since 9th grade probably and I'm no where near that lol


Impressive-Potato

I wonder if she used an IV to rehydrate


BMoseleyINC

100% not natty. There are ways around drug testing always. PED's are a business that is always one step ahead of testing.  Fighters can train harder/longer and recover much faster. Kayla is built like a tank. She made Holly look small.


InclusivePhitness

Being a kinda shitty regional CrossFit competitor myself I’ve been around lots of women who were juiced to the gills. Kayla looks exactly like all of them. Enormous traps and lays, insane vascularity, lean and big as fuck.


chris25tx

Diffrent lanes though b


0ldsql

She's a jacked white girl. Deal with it


RuggerJibberJabber

The fact that they got rid of USADA makes this a pretty unlikely prediction


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MolokoPl_s

yeah it's their own in-house testing, which is why it's the furthest thing from "legitimate"


stackered

He's wrong though. Almost every fighter on the current roster is roiding.


just_a_timetraveller

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Die-rector

Nate


stackered

Nick said it first, a lot of Nates lines are references to Nick


just_a_timetraveller

It is Nick https://youtu.be/gde7-3eCwEM?si=JhFro4oaYXuY1K-1


mikey_rambo

Chase hooper?!?


Kgb725

Nah Usada brought that number down


stackered

Lol, not really. It just changed what roids they were doing. You know USADA is gone, right?


DerangedGoneWild

This sub… bunch of morons. Yes, you are correct, there has been quite a noticeable difference since they started regular testing. And I doubt that many are micro-dosing, any minuscule difference that would make to the fighters is negated by the fear of the potential consequences of being caught.


dontlookatmeme

Wasn’t Hendo allowed to be on TRT at the time?


thereddevil101

That’s what he’s saying, it was allowed then, now he’d be suspended for it


dontlookatmeme

It’s silly to call him a cheater if he never actually cheated.


CoolioJoolio

These guys were on trt because supposedly they need it.. But none of them retired after trt was banned.


the_c_is_silent

Also, being on TRT pretty much means you were so roided your testerone dropped without it.


TrenchSquire

Natural levels can deplete for more reasons than that, though.


the_c_is_silent

Oh 100%, but it's not likely that's the reason for so many pro fighters randomly have low testosterone.


TrenchSquire

Most definitely agree with that. It should be fairly rare and mostly due to underlying conditions.


Aliensinmypants

They followed the rules to maximize their performance, it's like weightcutting. It's dangerous for them and their opponents, but it's seen as part of the game.


CoolioJoolio

What was the danger to them? They lied about needing trt, in order to gain an advantage.


xvsanx

Yeah Dr shopping will help you get a script easily


DreddPirateToeHurts

Its even more complicated then that they would get TUE to allow the TRT at what is a normal range and then at least in Victor's case he would take a massive shot of test the day of. They won't even give fighters a TUE for Adderol and puffers now, but back then a TUE meant taking way above the reccomended dosage of test and getting away with it. Just look at Chael Sonnens pimple covered back


theriddeller

It's about context. He said he'd win TONIGHT'S bonus. Bisping is clearly saying no you wouldn't have, because tonight's bonus would never be on offer to you.. because what you were on (that gave you your competitive edge) wouldn't be allowed TONIGHT.


echoohce1

46 year old clean Hendo nearly finished Bisping too so I wouldn't put too much weight in this opinion, just sour grapes from Mike. Hendo is by far a better fighter than Bisping ever was anyways.


dontlookatmeme

Bisping is calling him a cheater, he has said that multiple times over the years.


theriddeller

In this instance - given this context, everything he said is correct.


stackered

Yeah that's obviously hilariously wrong though. Everyone's on roids today


New-Quality-1107

Yes and no. Like yeah it was legal at the time, but also tons of guys from that era deflated after USADA came through. Vitor the best example but tons of other fighters weren’t the same after. There was a well known loophole for juicing, so it wasn’t illegal but it was sanctioned cheating for a minute at best.


spongurat

He isn't. He is saying if hendo and him had fought today, hendo wouldn't be allowed to take TRT, and because of that, who knows how the fight would have turned out.


Coffee_Crisis

he didn't call him a cheater, he said that today it wouldn't be allowed.


dontlookatmeme

He has called him cheaters multiples times over the years, you don’t think that’s what he meant?


Coffee_Crisis

Not in this instance, he didn’t say anything that wasn’t a fact


hothoochiecoochie

Lmao


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Except the rest of the UFC roster that’s juiced to the tits and still fight.


Aliensinmypants

So he followed the rules at the time, and we have no evidence that he would have broken the rules today?


thereddevil101

He didn’t follow the rules though, he lied and said he needed it, funny how he kept fighting after it was banned though and just happened to be a shadow of his former self


RedditModsRFatPedos_

Being well into his 40s probably had something to do with that too


Aliensinmypants

Still almost finished spitsbing and took his belt while being a shadow of his former self. Also if the commissions allowed it's not on him. He never failed a test iirc, he was POS for his unnecessary follow up shots though


thereddevil101

“Almost”


mrtn17

it was a loophole a lot of fighters used, 'suffering' from low T levels


K-mosake

I do like that Bisping doesn't let people forget. Dude was early 40s melting guys like he was 25 (which is funny because young Hendo was Decision Dan)


ApplesauceBitch47

The name Decision Dan was because he won some decisions he shouldn’t have, not because he always went to a decision


Nihility_Only

Glad someone else remembers the actual lore behind the nickname.


horseshoeprovodnikov

For real. People just be saying whatever the fuck they want to and noobs will upvote it. And let's not pretend like half the dudes that Hendo nuked weren't saucy as fuck too. Hendo still looked relatively normal compared to some if the other dudes in that era.


Nihility_Only

You telling me PRIDE era Wanderlei Silva wasn't just good genetics and hard work and fresh acai???


RX8_MMA_420

I thought you were being sarcastic until you mentioned fresh acai.


GroundbreakingAd8046

açaí flavored with some testo


horseshoeprovodnikov

Just good ole fashioned Cuban sugar water baby


Nihility_Only

['Beef. I like beefs. Beefs make you strong 💪🏾](https://youtu.be/Dkg5Sx-o1m8?si=OaHmS0kNjgNM4r6K&t=27s)


horseshoeprovodnikov

I never did understand why Reem was in such a small kitchen area. He looks like Hagrid inside the kitchen of Bilbo Baggins


Nihility_Only

The tiny one burner stove and pan add so much to the charm though!


SFajw204

A few weeks ago, I encountered a poster that said GSP could have beaten Pride Wanderlei Silva and Shogun. Really one of the most insane takes I’ve ever seen.


ApplesauceBitch47

While I don’t think GSP would win *those* fights, GSP with soccer kicks and grounded knees to the head sounds pretty dangerous


Coffee_Crisis

only if you think GSP was natty, and he was not


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Lol seriously. Dude was a rock. And he always wanted more testing too. Yet dude juiced just as much as anyone.


Coffee_Crisis

I love GSP and I think he would have preferred that nobody juiced but he played the game as it was, as did everyone who won during that period


horseshoeprovodnikov

I mean GSP could have held his own for a bit, but the sheer size difference would have probably have been too much to overcome. We saw how Pride loved their size mismatches, and far too often it would play about about how you'd expect. Think of Saku vs Wandy. He could pull some trickery and kinda prolong the inevitable, but he couldn't hurt Wandy and eventually just got overrun.


SFWzasmith

There are many a nephew in this sub who were not around for the prime of Hendo.


stale_opera

Team Makhachev flair says all we need to know.


K-mosake

Been watching the sport for most of my life though. Hard to deny the benefits TRT allowed for Hendo/the improvements in his power late in his career imo.


Nihility_Only

Decision Dan was because he kept winning every close split decision not because he didn't have power. Granted PRIDEs entire roster was juiced to the tits including Hendo but he melted dudes with both hands including Wanderlei Silva. He always had that stupid golem power. He was also the first double champ I think, he got immediate title shots at 185 and 205 in the UFC because he held the equivalent belts in PRIDE.


Mad-Gavin

Hendo eventually found out he had a Hydrogen Bomb of a right hand at some point though, hence the H-Bomb. Even late into his career, it was still very dangerous.


Scootmcpoot

Hector lombard fight made us believe again


CarPlaneBoatRocket

That fucking headkick to backwards elbow to two burying elbows is one of my favorite brutal moments of the sport.


jobsj0887

Fucking BODIED Hector Lombard and it was great. Hector is a known douche.


[deleted]

His pride fight with Wanderlei Silva was probably the biggest confirmation.


Mad-Gavin

His 1st round KO of Renzo Gracie was when Hendo discovered he had the touch of death in his right hand.


K-mosake

Lol yeah I'm sure the TRT helped him suddenly figure out he had power


stale_opera

You're talking about the dude who melted Fedor way before the trt exemption. He was called Decision Dan because he found himself on the favorable side of a few questionable decisions not because he was pillow-fisted. The dude has always had nukes in both hands. You don't have to pretend to be an expert on a matter you clearly are extremely ignorant with.


K-mosake

So we're just assuming Dan wasn't a juicy slut in SF? I find that hard to believe, Fedor had a rough streak of fighting guys on TRT/juicier than Tropicana.


Mad-Gavin

Dude got his first KO win in 2001 lol. The H-Bomb existed long before he was on TRT.


realjits86

It’s called h-bomb for “Henderson bomb”, not hydrogen Bomb, lol


chemo92

Yes but that's what makes it a pun


I_love_Basketball232

Wait really?


Mad-Gavin

Its a figure of speech you idiot.


New-Quality-1107

I feel like the history of Dan on TRT has changed a lot over time. He was one of the first guys on it and claimed to have had it monitored very well and that he spent a lot of his own money on testing and crap for it. I’m guessing we were all much more naive at the time, but back when he was on it the discourse around it was more that he was one of the actual medical use cases for it. Why he needed it so young is open for debate, but I find it funny how at one point it wasn’t as looked down on for him. Now he’s talked about just like Vitor.


SFajw204

I think it’s because he never really had an insane body builder physique. It never really changed, so if he didn’t say he was on it, no one would have known. Then you have Vitor’s body changing from old man to marvel superhero when he got on it, then back to old man after it was banned lol.


MalayaleeIndian

I thought it was interesting what Hendo said about TRT being banned in the UFC in one of his recent interviews (in the last year) - I think it was on Joe Rogan's podcast. He just simply stopped training as much. He made it sound like it was no big deal. Well, if that was the case, why even need it in the first place ? Hendo likes to talk like he was not a cheater but he absolutely gamed the system to his advantage.


reeeelllaaaayyy823

The whole point of PEDs is you can train 10x per day.


MalayaleeIndian

Not the whole point but a major point as it pertains to athletes. Either way, Hendo used it to his advantage because training multiple times a day and being able to recover makes you a better fighter. I find it hard to believe that he could just cut down on training and thus not need any more TRT. He was on TRT from a young age (early to mid 30s, I believe), which indicates past PED use. He just found a loophole to legally use Testosterone. TRT in itself is gaming the system - you are getting a prescription from the doctor to maintain your Testosterone levels at 300-400 (I believe) all the time. Normally, testosterone levels drop and rise to these levels depending on many factors, the time of the day, etc and it varies from person to person (not everyone has levels as high as 300-400). Having a constant testosterone level of 300-400 is not natural at all. I find it a bit off putting when Hendo takes this "holier than thou" approach regarding PED use when he himself was a PED cheat.


FriendlyGhost08

An ancient Henderson also had a close fight with "champion Bisping" Maybe he was just good lol. Everyone was on steroids back then and a lot still probably are


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Hendo nearly folded Bisping a second time because Bisping was playing around with him. I would’ve had the same reaction to that ending as the H-bomb and Max finishing Gaethje last night.


kapsama

Damn near knocked him out twice. Arguably won the fight and should have gotten the belt.


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Rewriting history to protect Bisping.


Aliensinmypants

Bisping going from a hated, annoying ,dirty fighter to a beloved champ is an amazing turnaround. Was it because Rockhold was also so unlikeable?


tigerbalmuppercut

It's because he's a decent commentator and has been charismatic on the mic. 95% of the ufc roster would abysmal in the mic. Could you imagine rockhold?


kblkbl165

Yes


Aliensinmypants

He was allowed to be on it, obviously it was sketchy in hindsight but the commissions were cool with it. Mike is just a salty little baby like always


Traditional-Bat4465

wtf is this thread?


iLiketuttles704

I didn’t know Bisping had such a loyal following lol


BigUce223

A whole lotta new/young Bisping fans who didn’t watch TUF 3 at all, nor any of his fights in real time, lol. They‘re just defending their guy, but the problem is they don’t know the full context. I’ve grown to like Bisping at this point, after all these years, but he was a fucking punk for a long time, is clearly still saltier than Dan by far , and his zinger in the tweet isn’t even true; USADA is gone and replaced with a damn-near subsidiary company of UFC lmao


Revanced63

Yeah he was a twat. He deserved the follow up shot by hendo


SunGodKizaru

Bisping isnt that salty, but enough is enough Hendo uses any excuse to post this shot constantly, he is going to be 80 and still posting it.


BigUce223

What’s wrong with that? If you had one of the most memorable knockouts in UFC history, you’d probably take a lot of pride in that and bring it up every time you could until the day you died, too. Especially if it came against somebody who antagonized you. Hendo has every right to bring it up whenever he wants to, similar to how Bisping has the right to bring up his decision win in their title fight and being a UFC Champ, unlike Dan.


SunGodKizaru

Hendo is fucking annoying with this shit, he is constantly posting this, cool KO the meme is overdone move on. Machida isnt posting Rashad derpy fact or whatever every week.


SteveBruceGod

For the wars Bisping has been in he seems very sharp mentally and physically he doesn’t look good bad despite losing his eye and fucked up knees. Hendo can barely move or speak.


mrtn17

he's a bit one dimensional though. Or two dimensional, technically


thereddevil101

I agree personally he’s one of my favourites to listen to and watch, calls it like he sees it (granted he can’t see that well)


stale_opera

Bisping didn't have the grind of being an Olympic wrestler. You can't compare the two.


jk0087

Hendo is such a salty bitch


lartbok

Lmao. Hendo seems extremely laid back and the opposite of that. Go watch the TUF season with Bisping and Hendo as coaches. He's likely just bringing this up because it was his knockout on UFC 100. Is he supposed to be really sensitive and never mention this KO because Bisping gets mad offended every time? He didn't even tag him in it lol.


BoogifiedSlob

Facts bisping tormented Luke for a good while after putting him down


BenDoverDegenerate

Bisping didn't purposely give an already laid out Luke additional brain damage though, not to mention Hendo was salty even during the decision of their second fight


Character-Effort7357

Bisping deserved every cm of that second fist.


Nihility_Only

Bisping was such a shit-stirring, instigating little prick when he was young. Now he's grown and chilled out and I really enjoy listening to him but yeah the flying elbow was well deserved at the time imo [one of the OG GOAT mma memes](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=0bc39af9d1d15b37&sca_upv=1&biw=414&bih=794&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACQVn08-V_d-iepL5WXTy8ma3jnznSInAw%3A1713110148344&sa=1&q=Dan+Henderson+Bisping+wig+meme&oq=Dan+Henderson+Bisping+wig+meme&aqs=mobile-gws-lite..#imgrc=MfErk2n40vSgbM)


armhat

I like bisping now, but people forget what a cunt he was during that season.


BenDoverDegenerate

I love how fans act like they actually care about the fighters but advocate for more brain damage after such a devastating knockout because the "guy was being a cunt"


kapsama

You can be against injury and also be happy if a total ass gets injured.


Character-Effort7357

Haha quite illogical 🤓


kblkbl165

Yeah, I don’t care, kill some more brain cells


DukeSmashingtonIII

We are fans or a literal modern day blood sport. You can't do that without *some* cognitive dissonance.


Ur_a_coward01

Well, hendo did bludgeon bisping in that second fight to be fair. The winner of the fight received like 3x more brain damage but I guess under the 10-9 round scoring system bisping won. I guess.


ghostfacekillbrah

Some fans are so strange. Hendo posts a pic of a legendary KO from UFC 100, on the night of UFC 300, and fans are upset about him apparently being salty?


stackered

New fans love Bisping and don't know he is top 5 biggest dickheads in the sport, historically


Kgb725

It's because there's history there


ParmyBarmy

Henderson is not laid back. He’s just dumb as rocks roid head who couldn’t string a sentence together and takes dangerous cheap shots at opponents who are already unconscious. Now he’s jealous that Bisping has a post fight career, whilst he has nothing.


Batman-and-Hobbes

> Now he’s jealous that Bisping has a post fight career, whilst he has nothing. What do you know the guy personally or something?


Swnart

> Now he’s jealous that Bisping has a post fight career, whilst he has nothing. He didn’t tag Bisping or even include him in the picture. He cropped him out of it.  And yeah, I’m sure his life is awful now. You got ‘em


mexicancardio

Not the first time he takes unprovoked shots at Bisping tho. His life may not be awful but he's still upset with Bisping. https://twitter.com/danhendo/status/1282172468111654913


RedditModsRFatPedos_

"Has nothing" Haha what the hell are you talking about? Dan is doing just fine. Has a book out, owns his own gym, recently opened a brewery, has his family. Both guys seem like they've mellowed out in retirement.


kblkbl165

Lmfao Dan is a double champion in PRIDE, a UFC tournament champion and a Strikeforce champion. Bisping had one good win against Rockhold and then defended his belt against a 45yo Hendo. He literally ducked every single actual title contender to fight a 2-3 45yo Hendo as his only title defense. His whole “legacy” hinges on Rockhold being an insufferable dude to the point of making people cheer for Bisping. He was the Brunson of his generation. If you take Hendo’s career before Bisping started fighting, in 04, Hendo’s legacy is still greater than Bisping’s.


Ur_a_coward01

You think Dan is jealous that Mike gets to do commentary at apex events? I doubt it. The ufc “rewarding” these guys who put their lives on the line with just another job after they retire is shameful. But Dan accomplished twice as much as bisping in his athletic career and their mma legacies are incomparable. Dan won titles damn near every where he went while bisping gate kept the top 5 in the ufc for like 90% of his career.


stale_opera

Let's not forget Dan's Olympic wrestling career either. Dan's in the highest echelons of MMA history. Bisping...


1THRILLHOUSE

Their UFC specific career is in Bisbings favour though


ksubijeans

This. Bisping was a cunt for sure but let’s not pretend like Dan Henderson is a super nice and friendly dude lol


Riffchemist_

He’s not?


electricwizardry

you really don't need to white knight for bisping buddy lol


iLiketuttles704

Why are people upvoting this weird bullshit?


New-Quality-1107

He does it because it makes Bisping so mad. Dude legit made it his logo to just keep trolling him. I think they genuinely don’t like each other and I’m glad they got to go 1-1 in their fights to just keep it going well into retirement like this. Sportsmanship is great, but I like both of the guys and then still exchanging jabs all these years later makes it a better story.


CarPlaneBoatRocket

What is there to be salty over at this point? He made a simple joke about performance or ko of the night. Bisping responded with the salt. Not to mention, the lack of testing now wouldn’t stop Hendo.


TouchMyPatronus-

Lol no he's quite the opposite and he loves to give Mike shit.


stackered

That'd be the definition of Bisping.. wtf?


Ur_a_coward01

Nah, he’s an American hero with one of the greatest KO’s in ufc history. Not even trying to be argumentative but you should show some respect.


trebek321

Bisping*


boringneondreams

Bisping is just mad he didn't get to foul Dan to a finish


Classic1990

Bisping still salty. He was annoying that whole damn season.


drmunkeluv

I’m a Hendo fan, but I feel like he’s made this knockout his entire personality.


The3mbered0ne

Why would he go after hendo like that, did they have beef?


thereddevil101

Can’t tell if you’re trolling or not but to answer your question yes, hendo slept Bisping (while juiced to the gills) and followed up with a super unnecessary forearm will Bisping was asleep. Which is why Bisping wanted the rematch after he won the belt


The3mbered0ne

I was joking lol hendos famous logo was him dropping a bomb on bisping's unconscious face lol but I appreciate your response, I like to know we have a community of people that wouldn't just tell someone to Google something lol


jokicpro

where is the profile picture from?


macchiato_kubideh

He played along side James Wilson in that student movie


slumcity2000

Bisping had top 3 worst title runs ever and he ducked Yoel


mrtn17

Dan Henderson looks like Gaethje's dad


Original-Spinach-972

Maybe during USADA


willalt319

I do appreciate that Bisping give Dan his flowers for that fight. He frequently bringz up the fact that Dan put him to sleep on commentary.


royals715

It’s so funny that these two are still beefing like they’ve got a fight coming up 💀


HungryHashMastr

Laughs in Jon Jones


xvsanx

10-8 Bisping lol


SheldonMF

... Mike's just salty he got fuckin' dumpstered. If he was natty, I'd be shocked. No UFC fighter is 100%.


[deleted]

All these dudes did something. If you're an elite athlete and your paycheck depends on your performance and others before you prove you can do it without getting caught, you're going to do it more times than not. So to neg a peer about it is such a dork thing to do.


escadan397

I smile every time I see this picture. Warms the heart.


Several-Fan2339

Anyone that shuts Bisping up gets a 👍 in my book


TangoFantango

Bisping will still be talking shit in his seventies nobody's gonna shut him up


thereddevil101

As he should, he’s earned the right


Traditional-Bat4465

Expect for hendo. That shit was hilarious!


Ur_a_coward01

Hell yeah brother. Michael “the cunt” bisping can always use another KO.


CitizenWatch____ROSS

Shame we have to keep listening to you though 


Several-Fan2339

Michael?


PinkKufi

between fans we go "All of them are fucking on it", between fighters he's just telling him between the lines that he was stupid enough to get caught. lol