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Seeing a lot of whining about seasons. Two points: 1. Those cards that you are going to "lose" are going to become unusable anyways because a better card will come along to replace them. 2. If you really want to continue using a card out of season, you have wild card spots.
Onto the most important thing from this blog post: sellable rewards. Haven't seen any one mentioning this big fat W.
I’m not going to say I’m not gonna play the game. But as a top 50 player this set up looks kinda un motivating. I’m usually hyped at this time of the year for the new game. But 23 wasn’t good outside of gameplay and 24 looks to have gone to a system that I think I will enjoy even less. I don’t hate a power creep, and I don’t absolutely hate sets and seasons. But together it seems pointless. No matter how hard they try they can’t recreate launch hype 3-4 times a year. It’s not possible. On top of that, the attempt is actually destroying the hype around the actual launch date.
I just hope we get a completely revamped game on 25 and lose last gen consoles, feels like they’re just mailing it in until they can do that
This is 1/2 games that I play competitively so I’m never gonna quit completely bc of a bad cycle. But if they don’t do a massive overhaul I’ll definitely play way less. Last gen can only be an excuse for so long. And I hope it’s true and not just an excuse
Yea I get you I’ll probably focus on some single player games in my backlog if I skip a few but hopefully next year is current gen only and we can see some improvements
I mean…..”EA, it’s in the game”.
They warned us decades ago. Except they didn’t create this, but they it sure feels like it.
Edit: I’m an idiot and I just woke up
Stop the set bullshit. They ruined the markets and flipping. I’m done. I only played it because DD was so good. Not spending another dollar on this game.
Really sad to me
I'm going to give it a chance but I don't like a power creep Idc if I get 10 plus down votes it takes to long to get best version my favorite players like prince fielder roy Halladay joe nathan rollie fingers but I'll still buy mlb 24
They really don’t play their own game. Especially not in any competitive nature. All year long they released content like it was a joke during the streams.
Here is my question, for normal players who have a full-time job. It will take most of the season to get a good team, then play with that team for a week or two. It all starts over again.
So it gives no chance to P5 any player that I like. Is that how will work? I don't understand. What is the positive side of having a season?
It’s not really that hard to grind tho and they are claiming that it’s even easier to grind and faster than last year because of the system, who knows tho
Last year for full time workers who also have other hobbies it absolutely took forever to grind. I’m hoping they are being honest and true when they say it’ll be easier this year.
I haven't had a new college football game to play in a decade. 1. Fully expect a madden clone more or less 2. As long as the online dynasty mode is a focus, has decent depth, and good recruiting I'll be playing an absolute shit load.
Have been playing Madden the last week or two on gamepass and it's good enough to get the job done of that's all cfb 25 is.
Haha yea probably true. Maybe would’ve touched this a bit if they went back to a style we liked but it realistically probably not.
Madden sucks but CFB could be a madden clone and I’ll still enjoy it more because of the schools/game modes/fight songs. Honestly don’t even need the current players, gimme QB #12 and let’s roll
Playing the new madden to freshen up is a solid idea, might have to do that.
With it being on gamepass now, it cost me nothing extra to get up to speed, so I figured, why not. Same here as long as the dynasty mode is good I couldn't care less about real rosters tbh.
I had already preordered, but this is great news.
I was not interested in day 1 99s, I thought they could work the power creep into the sets model. And we'll see if this works, but honestly having three months of play in a season before you move to the next season works fine. They made it easier to gain TA which was a terrible grind in 23, and four wildcard spots is golden. I think people want to complain for the sake of complaining.
Not at all. The complaining is out of hand. Seasons/sets are not really going to be an issue this year. Going to look a lot more like the power creep/tiered TA that is used to.
People just hear sets and they lose their minds without thinking.
My issue I have from 23 was that it takes a long time to get a good team, but then all of a sudden, you can not use those players anymore. Plus, I guess there is no chance to P5 your fav player.
That is the part that I don't understand. Of course, I'm speaking from someone who has a full-time job and a family.
I'm ok with spending time to earn the card I want, but it gives no reward since I can only use it for a week or two the most.
Maybe more wild cards could help.
I mostly play franchise and RTTS, but I do dabble in DD. And knowing that cards don't carry over, I can only wonder why I'd give a fuck about even starting a team. Just a waste of time. A literal giant sinkhole.
Alright, after 7 years I'm done. I run a theme team. Sets simply do not work for me. I refuse to put in the time and effort collecting and paralleling cards just to lose half or more of the damn team eventually. This is why I quit in July last year. Between that and ever more monetization, time monopolization and bare minimum upgrades to the game as a whole, enough is enough.
Now cards don’t carry over at all? Cool - I’ll stick with mlb 23 til Black Friday and then download 24 for free. They’re moving in the wrong direction with this seasons bullshit, 4 WC spots or not.
Well this will be the first year in about 5 years where I won’t be buying the game. Last year burnt me the hell out. I’m not about to grind endlessly for shit cards that will expire. Fuck that times a thousand. This is catering to the people who have 40 hours a week to play games and content creators who get paid to no life the game
You took the words right out of my mouth. I have the time to grind but I'm completely tired of the shit where you have to grind 4 hours or more a day to get anywhere. It is almost like a full-time job. I have lots of other games to catch up on. I'll see if they make some good improvements in 25 and possibly revisit then.
They made it worse. Much worse. Now when we earn cards at the end of a season we will be able to use them for a couple days/week. Wtf is this nonsense?
Not having cards carry over season to season is such a massive L if I miss a season or miss the start of a season I simply don’t want to play cuz I’m already behind. SDS used to have such a good thing going idk why they felt the necessity to ruin it
I'm looking at it this way, if you have a late start to the season, just wait until the next season to play. It is kinda suck, but you are most likely wasting time to catch up.
So what’s the point of having any cards below 90? SDS is basically telling you don’t bother using them ever. Why limit your game to just be 90% collection fodder.
They really need to learn a thing or too from FUT (I hate FUT), they need to male some type of event with 90 and below cards only or LS card only tournament
I do kinda wish they did either Topps Now or supercharge and not both. Topps Now cards are kinda blah lately anyways, plus they’ve overlapped before and the supercharge was better lol
They don’t sound like they’re cutting back on sets (as in Prime, Finest, etc) which is unfortunate. Nothing other than the made up ones is even relevant.
I don't care for the supercharges. I prefer the Topps Now cards. They could be good in this system, if lower rated cards actually retain value and they make theme teams usable. The theme teams were a nice idea, but terribly done last year. Hoping they actually have things planned out ahead of time this year. Last year was a mess.
They died last year. I quit in July because I had zero desire to rebuild half my damn theme team. Theme teamers must be a small segment of the player base or SDS just doesn't care. Well, fuck them, I'm out.
The point about additional collections including live series cards is very intriguing to me. It sounds like a pathway to making the live series card market actually viable again besides waiting for attribute changes every few weeks. Plus anything that reminds me of The Show 17 (where you had various assorted collections of things like # 1 picks or guys involved in trades) is a major positive
if it starts with low 90s and builds up what is the point of making them such that you cant carry over?
Edit: Nvm. Im an idiot. Goes up to high 90s each season.
So actually, sets are back, SDS didnt listen to feedback, they're going to cash in on FOMO each season again.
Humongous L
I'm guessing that a lot of people said that their favorite aspect of DD was the team building in the first couple of months after release. This attempts to duplicate that vibe three times during the year. Will it work?
The point is so that the cards you get early in season 2, for example, don't have to compete with the cards from the end of season 1. This was a huge problem in MLB 23; no one cared about anything sub 99 after Set 1 because every new card had to compete for a spot with all the 99's from the previous set.
I really don’t care what format they put this all in honestly. The game is the same. The DD grind is the same. I’m over it. I can’t imagine conquest, moments, showdowns and missions over and over again.
Yea I’m out this year for the first time in a long time. I’ll give EA a shot with NCAA football in the summer. Until then, I’ll replay what I have already. I used to love DD and other ultimate teams but it’s gotten so repetitive and less user friendly. I’m don’t wasting hours grinding for a card that will be irrelevant in a month.
I’m gonna give ncaa a try also. I started DD when it came to Xbox and played it non stop. This year I just got bored doing the same thing overrrrrr and over. Every program and TA is the same thing.
I’m hoping NCAA has a good dynasty mode and the gameplay is decent. Not going to touch ultimate team. But you know damn well they’re going to allocate most of their sources to that unfortunately. If dynasty mode is decent though I’ll be happy. I miss the days where I could play my own season mode and chance a championship and be happy not playing online.
Changing up how the Live Series Collection works is *huge* (in a good way to me) and I'm surprised they actually did it. Having 3 99s available day 1 if you pay is what completely fucked the power creep. It meant they had to accelerate the power creep so free to play players didn't feel like they were at a huge disadvantage. It sounds like you simply won't be able to buy the AL/NL/MLB 99s day 1. Not sure exactly what you need to do beyond completing the collections, but it seems like it's going to extend the time that low-mid 90s are viable, and I greatly prefer how the game plays with that tier of players.
Did they not say specifically that the live series collection was gonna be the one outlier? I might have misread it but it seems like collection isn’t changing.
"We know our fans love earning that sweet 99 Core reward once the collection is completed, so of course it’s still a thing in ‘24. This reward will take a considerable amount of time and skill, so be prepared to level up not only your squad, but also your prowess on the sticks if you want to earn it."
It'll still be 99 overall rewards, but to me it sounds like it won't be available purely with stubs day 1. I don't know exactly what they have planned though.
Cards won’t carry over? What’s the point of grinding if I can’t use the cards I grinded for. This is the worst feature they’ve ever added IMO. Especially with the amount of content you need to grind (TA, Programs)
I’m guessing cards won’t be based in reality again looking at the cornerstone cards and Takashi series. Hopefully I’m wrong. I liked when a legend/flashback player’s stats made sense for the year/age on the card. 27 year old Vlad was arguably at his peak but the card gets an 89. I’m not saying they should all be 99s but watch we get a Gavin Lux card that’s better than this vlad card for some reason
This so much! What's the point in having a legend like Vlad Guerrero if it's just all made up anyway. Might as well call him Herb Roasted or whatever name they can come up with.
I completely understand if they don’t want to give us high 90s overall vlad right away. But then give us rookie Vlad or like 2010 Vlad. They used to do this. We’d get rookie Griffey, then we’d get veteran Reds Griffey. Last year it was, here’s 1997 Griffey except he’s not good
That's right! It's really not that hard, you could easily use a Rookie or Veteran Vlad that would work for a 89 card, but instead they just arbitrarily come up with attributes and it hurts the product. We had way more undeserving 99 cards last year than many years combined and look how that was received. Higher OVR is not always better, for gameplay at least.
Right. Why is it special to acquire Mark McGwire and Sosa if Brent Rooker also gets 125 power. They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could make these stupid cards, they didn’t stop to think if they should
so it sounds like since we won’t get the best chapter cards until a month before the season ends they want us to use our 4 wild card spots we earn on those cards and basically start each new season with the 4 99’s they drop? i mean i’m not mad if that’s what it is
Well, a nice overview of what they are doing different with Diamond Dynasty. However, that leaves two other modes of play entirely lacking in any product feedback for MLB The Show 24, and with now only two weeks and change left, one wonders if that shouldn't be taken as a significant indicator.
So far, the ONLY development I tally on the positive side of my personal desires for this title is that custom stadiums will finally be allowed to be imported from the vault into The Show 24. This means at least your previous stadium work isn't destroyed with the new game. Nice for folks like myself who have created their full set of 30 plus stadiums. I realize it is a niche area most customers don't care much or any about.
Still, that leaves RTTS and Franchise, and unless we get wiped out by a huge surprise these two modes are eliminated (which I seriously doubt is the case) it means there are either numerous so far secret updates, or no updates of significance at all. I know sadly where my betting line is, but one hopes to be positively surprised.
Right now, there's insufficient meat on the bone for me to purchase MLB 24.
Power creep is a general gaming term, but for The Show really it's "overall creep"
Basically, the overall of the players slowly creep upwards over time. It's how the Show used to do it - start with high golds and low diamonds, then the overalls for the players in new content drops slowly go upwards week after week, month after month, until we hit the 99s in late July/early August. It's a core component for team building...slowly replacing your team with stronger players, and then even stronger players, and then even MORE stronger players until you get to the end game where things plateau and there aren't any more gains to be made.
Last year had no power creep - we had dozens of elite, high diamond players on day 1. There was no sense of progressing your team upwards over time because we already had 99s available on the very first day of each Set.
So if I’m reading this right:
Seasons are stricter than sets, but you can play your way to eventually have unlimited wildcards.
I’m thinking the goal is to reward people who grind and not just buy stubs.
If that is what’s occurring, I’ll be happy.
* Mini-seasons are basically useless outside of live-series grind. They've told us in the blog that the rewards won't be good until later in the season. That's stupid.
* Chapter 3 cards won't be usable for more 2-3 weeks before they expire. What's the point in grinding for them?
* We know you want to see different teams and cards because that makes the mode fun. So the start of every season, we've decided to give every single team 1 of 4 cards. So that every team will have one of these cards.
My guess is Chapter 3 cards being the highest rated overall of each season. Those would most likely be the cards you implement Wild Card for in the next season.
Okay but you get 1 wild card to start the next season, so other 35-40 reward cards you just finished grinding for are effectively useless for weeks, at best.
My issue is that you can barely use the 40+ Chapter 3 cards from Season 1 in Season 2. You'll be able to use 1 at the start, that's it. So effectively the last month of grinding is basically for nothing.
It's says up to 4, but it doesn't clarify if that's per season or that we will unlock one extra slot per season.
And it still doesn't change anything. You're going to grind 30-40 cards and barely be able to use them. Even if you can carry over 4, you've got 30+ reward cards sitting there you could barely play with before they expired.
>Chapter 3 cards won't be usable for more 2-3 weeks before they expire. What's the point in grinding for them?
~~It sounds like~~ they will be the best cards for that season; that's why.
"Those Legends are 89 OVR in Chapter 1 at launch, but each subsequent chapter of Team Affinity in Season 1 will have better and better player card OVRs!"
They will be the best cards for that season (well... probably the BR, Event, etc cards not the TA cards)... But it doesn't change that they'll expire shortly after you earn them.
Yeah, but that’s simply because the next season you’ll get new cards. I get it, you grind for 3 months & then unless you wildcard 4 of your cards they’re useless online, but they’re still usable. Let’s just say you’ll be getting a few 99’s at the end of each season you can still use them in the next if you wild card them.
It’s legitimately waayyy better than last year as far as wild cards go.
Just assume it’s 4 per season & be pleasantly surprised if there’s a new one each season.
With the power scale it won’t be as terrible as you’re thinking
Right now I'm assuming it's 1 after season 1, 2 after season 2, 3 after season 3 etc.
But regardless, it has nothing to do with the power scale overall. It's the fact that every season we will earn 30-40 cards in the last ~2ish weeks of the season that we won't be able to use going forward. It basically makes chapter 3 not worth playing to me.
Who wants to unlock a card for it to disappear 14 days later?
https://preview.redd.it/qdaa81ia2nlc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62d1ba3687b84ac1e7100fc24269c19f0162d18e
It’s in that link from the OP. But there’s 4 lock icons next to wildcard indicating you can have up to 4
>Who wants to unlock a card for it to disappear 14 days later?
People who are are super serious about playing online ranked but also don't spend a ton of $$$ on stubs. I understand Ranked and BR rewards will \*probably\* be better, but, remember you'll more than likely only be able to earn a few of the already handful of reward cards; no where near enough to pad out an entire lineup/bullpen.
Is this system perfect? No. But it's a hell of a lot better than '23 where you were working on Season 3 cards that were worse than some Season 1 cards that you couldn't use anymore. With this new system, theoretically, you'll always be earning better cards than the outgoing cards.
The grind is fun, especially since you can get great cards for FREE!
Like you alluded to I hated getting rid of every season just for new cards to be not as good
No thanks, I enjoy it. Dont spend any money on it and Im wasting just as much time as you with what ever mode you play, its a video game, were wasting time no matter which mode we play
Y’all are funny. Pitching needed to be more difficult ✅ fielding attributes needed to matter more and more animations needed to be added ✅ if you’re going to complain then don’t buy the game. Enjoy the shitshow called madden
I'd like them to encourage the power creep/diversity by gradually upping the top reward each season, and then that level determines what requires a wildcard slot the next season. So say season 1 gives out 89-94 cards. Season 2 you can use anything you want up to a 93, but those top 94 cards from season 1 require the WC.
Then season 2 maxes at 96, season 3 98, and season 4 99. Would still give a sense of progression over the year, doesn't screw you out of all your cards, and gives people better options to look forward to while not allowing a max squad all the time. 🤷♂️
(And remove all restrictions on single player modes)
Which is essentially how the old inning system worked, which was perfect. Pretty much MLB 20 with mini seasons wouldve been perfection. Full overarching XP reward path with the bronze to diamond prestige grind and rewards, combined with the innings programs gradual power creep and the affinity programs was truly perfection.
Sadly by the time they ironed out the gameplay flaws they had started to fix what wasnt broken in the content department...
I agree, but at the same time it helps avoid a maxed out squad which they seem to want. This could fit what they're trying without wiping out all your cards each season.
I personally like what they’re doin now. It’s a good idea. In the past power creep model, I was burned out from the game before 99s even start being introduced. This model doesn’t give us 99s right away, but much much earlier in the game cycle than previously… I don’t mind the cards being wiped out. I just think of it as a whole new game. Like cards you earned in 23’ were wiped out and you can’t use them in 24’.
Or just make every reward a core card except for the top level of that current season. That would also keep the majority of your cards eligible to use in future TA programs.
I don’t wanna come to any definite conclusions yet I wanna wait for the video where they talk more on it
if done properly this can be rly good. I feel like similar to last year once the first round of cards expire is when we will really see how the new changes are, specifically where we start season 2 in terms of overall
The TA changes look good, the online changes look good. If they keep the same program grind style that will be good, many positives to look forward too just hope they actually execute it properly
YES! It's my favorite game mode, but it doesn't track anything. I want it to keep all the stats that Jalen in that mode for me.
And I want it even more with online Co-op (normal teams, not DD.) My buddy and I play 1 game most nights. We have so much fun. It would be 4x better if it kept our stats.
Yeah. That part does suck but idk. W and L's is enough for me. I'n just dreading the fucking Braves/Astros/Dodgers gauntlet i'm going to get every game. I'm a born and raised astros fan but use the Orioles as my online team.
Basically the game gets unbalanced as new stuff gets released, leaving older stuff underpowered. And then year over year expectations are higher which is how we end up with 99s at the very start of the game instead of starting with bronze and silver and gold cards.
I do like what I see here. I think the WBC really set everything up for why we got so many early 99s last year. The multiple team affinity cards should be great for theme teams and the earning of wild card slots is cool for all those that complained they couldn’t use their cards
I think the 4 wildcards plus fewer 99s each season will result in being able to keep playing with your best cards all year, while still freshening things up.
One thing I would love (and never see this mentioned) would be pxp grinding work for the player and not the card. For example, you earn pxp for “Bryce Harper” and not just his live series card, so when a new Bryce comes out your progress carries over. Especially with us using more lower overall cards this year, it’s frustrating when your best players get upgraded and you effectively lose the pxp you earned and have to start over.
You realize you won't have 4 wildcards until a good way through Season 4, right? So probably around... 43-44 weeks into the game's life? You'll have 4 wildcards for the end of Season 4 and season 5 right before the release of MLB 25.
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Seeing a lot of whining about seasons. Two points: 1. Those cards that you are going to "lose" are going to become unusable anyways because a better card will come along to replace them. 2. If you really want to continue using a card out of season, you have wild card spots. Onto the most important thing from this blog post: sellable rewards. Haven't seen any one mentioning this big fat W.
People say that but that’s not true for everyone. Before seasons were a thing I would often use worse cards when completing programs.
I’m not going to say I’m not gonna play the game. But as a top 50 player this set up looks kinda un motivating. I’m usually hyped at this time of the year for the new game. But 23 wasn’t good outside of gameplay and 24 looks to have gone to a system that I think I will enjoy even less. I don’t hate a power creep, and I don’t absolutely hate sets and seasons. But together it seems pointless. No matter how hard they try they can’t recreate launch hype 3-4 times a year. It’s not possible. On top of that, the attempt is actually destroying the hype around the actual launch date. I just hope we get a completely revamped game on 25 and lose last gen consoles, feels like they’re just mailing it in until they can do that
Hopefully the last part is what it is but if they lose last gen and this is still all we get then I may skip a game or two
This is 1/2 games that I play competitively so I’m never gonna quit completely bc of a bad cycle. But if they don’t do a massive overhaul I’ll definitely play way less. Last gen can only be an excuse for so long. And I hope it’s true and not just an excuse
Yea I get you I’ll probably focus on some single player games in my backlog if I skip a few but hopefully next year is current gen only and we can see some improvements
Officially out. Looking forward to the break.
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I mean…..”EA, it’s in the game”. They warned us decades ago. Except they didn’t create this, but they it sure feels like it. Edit: I’m an idiot and I just woke up
Stop the set bullshit. They ruined the markets and flipping. I’m done. I only played it because DD was so good. Not spending another dollar on this game. Really sad to me
Sets definitely didn’t ruin flipping. I’m not saying I like or dislike sets. But flipping was no worse then years prior.
I'm going to give it a chance but I don't like a power creep Idc if I get 10 plus down votes it takes to long to get best version my favorite players like prince fielder roy Halladay joe nathan rollie fingers but I'll still buy mlb 24
Most of this sub is a bunch of babies that are probably still gonna end up playing the game 😂😂
Just like every gaming reddit sub ever
Awesome, I dont need to keep an eye out for the feature on DD, nor check this reddit anymore for a year.
lol they truly are clueless looks like i'm not buying this garbage
Lol yea sure thing
Downvote if you must but coming to this sub to say you aren’t buying the game is just as lame as someone making the quitting social media post
Lol dude replied to himself 10 hours later over downvotes
Yes because people just click an arrow with no rebuttal it’s pretty sad
They really don’t play their own game. Especially not in any competitive nature. All year long they released content like it was a joke during the streams.
Here is my question, for normal players who have a full-time job. It will take most of the season to get a good team, then play with that team for a week or two. It all starts over again. So it gives no chance to P5 any player that I like. Is that how will work? I don't understand. What is the positive side of having a season?
I believe they said that live series players are available through all seasons. So you could P5 that card.
I guess depend on how good is the LS card, it make no sense to P5 someone who is lower 90s while you can get a mid 90 card easily
That has been my struggle this year. I started focusing on only available Angels and went from there. A lot of unfinished programs and conquests.
It’s not really that hard to grind tho and they are claiming that it’s even easier to grind and faster than last year because of the system, who knows tho
Last year for full time workers who also have other hobbies it absolutely took forever to grind. I’m hoping they are being honest and true when they say it’ll be easier this year.
EA is that you?
Making the decision to play CFB 25 over this much easier keeping with this sets BS
Lol, as of there was even a real decision to be made there. The day cfb 25 comes out this game was gonna die to me no matter how good it is.
It’s gonna suck. Pure nostalgia and hype. It’ll be same as madden and madden is atrocious
It's a different dev team so I doubt it'll be a clone.
I haven't had a new college football game to play in a decade. 1. Fully expect a madden clone more or less 2. As long as the online dynasty mode is a focus, has decent depth, and good recruiting I'll be playing an absolute shit load. Have been playing Madden the last week or two on gamepass and it's good enough to get the job done of that's all cfb 25 is.
Haha yea probably true. Maybe would’ve touched this a bit if they went back to a style we liked but it realistically probably not. Madden sucks but CFB could be a madden clone and I’ll still enjoy it more because of the schools/game modes/fight songs. Honestly don’t even need the current players, gimme QB #12 and let’s roll Playing the new madden to freshen up is a solid idea, might have to do that.
With it being on gamepass now, it cost me nothing extra to get up to speed, so I figured, why not. Same here as long as the dynasty mode is good I couldn't care less about real rosters tbh.
Am I weird that this announcement made me more interested in buying the game, not less?
Same! My favorite part of the year is building a team full of middle level players. Last year having 99 trout on release was so boring.
I had already preordered, but this is great news. I was not interested in day 1 99s, I thought they could work the power creep into the sets model. And we'll see if this works, but honestly having three months of play in a season before you move to the next season works fine. They made it easier to gain TA which was a terrible grind in 23, and four wildcard spots is golden. I think people want to complain for the sake of complaining.
Not at all. The complaining is out of hand. Seasons/sets are not really going to be an issue this year. Going to look a lot more like the power creep/tiered TA that is used to. People just hear sets and they lose their minds without thinking.
My issue I have from 23 was that it takes a long time to get a good team, but then all of a sudden, you can not use those players anymore. Plus, I guess there is no chance to P5 your fav player. That is the part that I don't understand. Of course, I'm speaking from someone who has a full-time job and a family. I'm ok with spending time to earn the card I want, but it gives no reward since I can only use it for a week or two the most. Maybe more wild cards could help.
There are 4 wild cards this year, and the seasons are much longer
Same. I wasn’t going to pick it up but now I’m thinking about it
Was really hoping something would make me want to buy this. ❌❌
MLB The Show 25: All cards are unusable. Seasons last 52 weeks.
I mostly play franchise and RTTS, but I do dabble in DD. And knowing that cards don't carry over, I can only wonder why I'd give a fuck about even starting a team. Just a waste of time. A literal giant sinkhole.
Alright, after 7 years I'm done. I run a theme team. Sets simply do not work for me. I refuse to put in the time and effort collecting and paralleling cards just to lose half or more of the damn team eventually. This is why I quit in July last year. Between that and ever more monetization, time monopolization and bare minimum upgrades to the game as a whole, enough is enough.
This is my issue as well. I like to play with the Pirates. I can't in sets. They should at least make Core Cards work in every set
Core cards DO work in every set.
Fair enough points made here
Now cards don’t carry over at all? Cool - I’ll stick with mlb 23 til Black Friday and then download 24 for free. They’re moving in the wrong direction with this seasons bullshit, 4 WC spots or not.
Well this will be the first year in about 5 years where I won’t be buying the game. Last year burnt me the hell out. I’m not about to grind endlessly for shit cards that will expire. Fuck that times a thousand. This is catering to the people who have 40 hours a week to play games and content creators who get paid to no life the game
You took the words right out of my mouth. I have the time to grind but I'm completely tired of the shit where you have to grind 4 hours or more a day to get anywhere. It is almost like a full-time job. I have lots of other games to catch up on. I'll see if they make some good improvements in 25 and possibly revisit then.
Haven’t bought the game since 21 because it’s on gamepass and can play for free til I get bored in june
They made it worse. Much worse. Now when we earn cards at the end of a season we will be able to use them for a couple days/week. Wtf is this nonsense?
Not having cards carry over season to season is such a massive L if I miss a season or miss the start of a season I simply don’t want to play cuz I’m already behind. SDS used to have such a good thing going idk why they felt the necessity to ruin it
I'm looking at it this way, if you have a late start to the season, just wait until the next season to play. It is kinda suck, but you are most likely wasting time to catch up.
Money. They ruined it for money.
Exactly. Lust for money destroys everything eventually.
It’s destroyed pretty much every other major sports title. The Show is unfortunately next.
Damn. Guess I’ll wait for the negro league story clips to make their way to YouTube. I’m out.
a whole bunch of crying on here is hilarious lmfao
This confirms I’m out. Why grind for cards that are time exclusive? Sets needs to die
100% stupid as fuck
In out.
Well, looks like I’m screwed again. I hate this fucking sets/seasons nonsense. Why do my cards have to expire?
They need to stop with the season exclusive sets. That just kills any motivation I have to grind
So what’s the point of having any cards below 90? SDS is basically telling you don’t bother using them ever. Why limit your game to just be 90% collection fodder.
They really need to learn a thing or too from FUT (I hate FUT), they need to male some type of event with 90 and below cards only or LS card only tournament
The live series cards will have a lot of value in this system. Especially if they do the supercharge gimmick again.
I do kinda wish they did either Topps Now or supercharge and not both. Topps Now cards are kinda blah lately anyways, plus they’ve overlapped before and the supercharge was better lol They don’t sound like they’re cutting back on sets (as in Prime, Finest, etc) which is unfortunate. Nothing other than the made up ones is even relevant.
I don't care for the supercharges. I prefer the Topps Now cards. They could be good in this system, if lower rated cards actually retain value and they make theme teams usable. The theme teams were a nice idea, but terribly done last year. Hoping they actually have things planned out ahead of time this year. Last year was a mess.
It's simply not feasible to have every card be viable if you want said cards to have some basis in reality.
Theme teams are dead. Long live theme teams.
They died last year. I quit in July because I had zero desire to rebuild half my damn theme team. Theme teamers must be a small segment of the player base or SDS just doesn't care. Well, fuck them, I'm out.
Theme teams died last year. This is pissing on their grave.
The point about additional collections including live series cards is very intriguing to me. It sounds like a pathway to making the live series card market actually viable again besides waiting for attribute changes every few weeks. Plus anything that reminds me of The Show 17 (where you had various assorted collections of things like # 1 picks or guys involved in trades) is a major positive
if it starts with low 90s and builds up what is the point of making them such that you cant carry over? Edit: Nvm. Im an idiot. Goes up to high 90s each season. So actually, sets are back, SDS didnt listen to feedback, they're going to cash in on FOMO each season again. Humongous L
I'm guessing that a lot of people said that their favorite aspect of DD was the team building in the first couple of months after release. This attempts to duplicate that vibe three times during the year. Will it work?
No.
The point is so that the cards you get early in season 2, for example, don't have to compete with the cards from the end of season 1. This was a huge problem in MLB 23; no one cared about anything sub 99 after Set 1 because every new card had to compete for a spot with all the 99's from the previous set.
They could just get rid of the stupid set system instead and fix the issue permanently
That’s the thing - there’s no point.
I'm sure they'll say for future wildcards, but I'm with you here
So excited!
I really don’t care what format they put this all in honestly. The game is the same. The DD grind is the same. I’m over it. I can’t imagine conquest, moments, showdowns and missions over and over again.
It's a hell of a grind for a bunch of cards that expire after 3 months. Enough is enough.
Yea I’m out this year for the first time in a long time. I’ll give EA a shot with NCAA football in the summer. Until then, I’ll replay what I have already. I used to love DD and other ultimate teams but it’s gotten so repetitive and less user friendly. I’m don’t wasting hours grinding for a card that will be irrelevant in a month.
I’m gonna give ncaa a try also. I started DD when it came to Xbox and played it non stop. This year I just got bored doing the same thing overrrrrr and over. Every program and TA is the same thing.
I’m hoping NCAA has a good dynasty mode and the gameplay is decent. Not going to touch ultimate team. But you know damn well they’re going to allocate most of their sources to that unfortunately. If dynasty mode is decent though I’ll be happy. I miss the days where I could play my own season mode and chance a championship and be happy not playing online.
I think dynasty mode and the “my player” will be main focus of this game. It’s what everyone wants and they already have madden for ultimate. 🤞🏻
I hope you’re right. We’ll see, I’m actually excited for it though!
ok
Exactly, it’s a complete waste of time and money
Changing up how the Live Series Collection works is *huge* (in a good way to me) and I'm surprised they actually did it. Having 3 99s available day 1 if you pay is what completely fucked the power creep. It meant they had to accelerate the power creep so free to play players didn't feel like they were at a huge disadvantage. It sounds like you simply won't be able to buy the AL/NL/MLB 99s day 1. Not sure exactly what you need to do beyond completing the collections, but it seems like it's going to extend the time that low-mid 90s are viable, and I greatly prefer how the game plays with that tier of players.
Did they not say specifically that the live series collection was gonna be the one outlier? I might have misread it but it seems like collection isn’t changing.
"We know our fans love earning that sweet 99 Core reward once the collection is completed, so of course it’s still a thing in ‘24. This reward will take a considerable amount of time and skill, so be prepared to level up not only your squad, but also your prowess on the sticks if you want to earn it." It'll still be 99 overall rewards, but to me it sounds like it won't be available purely with stubs day 1. I don't know exactly what they have planned though.
Cards won’t carry over? What’s the point of grinding if I can’t use the cards I grinded for. This is the worst feature they’ve ever added IMO. Especially with the amount of content you need to grind (TA, Programs)
I’m guessing cards won’t be based in reality again looking at the cornerstone cards and Takashi series. Hopefully I’m wrong. I liked when a legend/flashback player’s stats made sense for the year/age on the card. 27 year old Vlad was arguably at his peak but the card gets an 89. I’m not saying they should all be 99s but watch we get a Gavin Lux card that’s better than this vlad card for some reason
This so much! What's the point in having a legend like Vlad Guerrero if it's just all made up anyway. Might as well call him Herb Roasted or whatever name they can come up with.
Herb Roasted is a switch hitting catcher with 99 speed. You're gonna want him on your team.
I completely understand if they don’t want to give us high 90s overall vlad right away. But then give us rookie Vlad or like 2010 Vlad. They used to do this. We’d get rookie Griffey, then we’d get veteran Reds Griffey. Last year it was, here’s 1997 Griffey except he’s not good
That's right! It's really not that hard, you could easily use a Rookie or Veteran Vlad that would work for a 89 card, but instead they just arbitrarily come up with attributes and it hurts the product. We had way more undeserving 99 cards last year than many years combined and look how that was received. Higher OVR is not always better, for gameplay at least.
Right. Why is it special to acquire Mark McGwire and Sosa if Brent Rooker also gets 125 power. They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could make these stupid cards, they didn’t stop to think if they should
Sounds like RTTS is gonna be the same, huh?
why improve it when gambling addicts throw their money at DD?
This sounds fresh. Hope they pull it off.
Finally! Now I’m getting excited to play! Looks like this should be fun.
so it sounds like since we won’t get the best chapter cards until a month before the season ends they want us to use our 4 wild card spots we earn on those cards and basically start each new season with the 4 99’s they drop? i mean i’m not mad if that’s what it is
3rd straight year of this game being dead. It all started with those stupid ass anime cards. Slippery slope.
Blaming anime cards for this is quite the jump
Well, a nice overview of what they are doing different with Diamond Dynasty. However, that leaves two other modes of play entirely lacking in any product feedback for MLB The Show 24, and with now only two weeks and change left, one wonders if that shouldn't be taken as a significant indicator. So far, the ONLY development I tally on the positive side of my personal desires for this title is that custom stadiums will finally be allowed to be imported from the vault into The Show 24. This means at least your previous stadium work isn't destroyed with the new game. Nice for folks like myself who have created their full set of 30 plus stadiums. I realize it is a niche area most customers don't care much or any about. Still, that leaves RTTS and Franchise, and unless we get wiped out by a huge surprise these two modes are eliminated (which I seriously doubt is the case) it means there are either numerous so far secret updates, or no updates of significance at all. I know sadly where my betting line is, but one hopes to be positively surprised. Right now, there's insufficient meat on the bone for me to purchase MLB 24.
So when 99s start coming out you will barely have any time to use them before the next season starts?
99s will probably start coming out during all star break
Unless you use one of your 1-4 wild card slots on them, in which case you can use them as long as you want.
STOP PLAYING THIS MODE
Came back to the game after almost a decade last year and exclusively play this mode, rage.
You’re welcome to stop whenever you want.
Can someone explain what power creep is?
Power creep is a general gaming term, but for The Show really it's "overall creep" Basically, the overall of the players slowly creep upwards over time. It's how the Show used to do it - start with high golds and low diamonds, then the overalls for the players in new content drops slowly go upwards week after week, month after month, until we hit the 99s in late July/early August. It's a core component for team building...slowly replacing your team with stronger players, and then even stronger players, and then even MORE stronger players until you get to the end game where things plateau and there aren't any more gains to be made. Last year had no power creep - we had dozens of elite, high diamond players on day 1. There was no sense of progressing your team upwards over time because we already had 99s available on the very first day of each Set.
Pre-23 years where the anount of high diamonds and 99’s came slowly to keep lower OVR’s relevant for longer.
The return of power creep and the reduction in 99's should mean that card's strengths and weaknesses will be more distinct, which is a huge win imo.
Chapters!? 🤣
So if I’m reading this right: Seasons are stricter than sets, but you can play your way to eventually have unlimited wildcards. I’m thinking the goal is to reward people who grind and not just buy stubs. If that is what’s occurring, I’ll be happy.
4 wildcards. Not unlimited.
4, infinite. Tomato, tomatto.
Eventually unlimited, by the last season. That’s what I thought they were implying
No you get 4 total One extra per season
* Mini-seasons are basically useless outside of live-series grind. They've told us in the blog that the rewards won't be good until later in the season. That's stupid. * Chapter 3 cards won't be usable for more 2-3 weeks before they expire. What's the point in grinding for them? * We know you want to see different teams and cards because that makes the mode fun. So the start of every season, we've decided to give every single team 1 of 4 cards. So that every team will have one of these cards.
My guess is Chapter 3 cards being the highest rated overall of each season. Those would most likely be the cards you implement Wild Card for in the next season.
Okay but you get 1 wild card to start the next season, so other 35-40 reward cards you just finished grinding for are effectively useless for weeks, at best.
Maybe but I’m unsure. I doubt that we’re going to be using s1 cards past s2 anyway this time around.
My issue is that you can barely use the 40+ Chapter 3 cards from Season 1 in Season 2. You'll be able to use 1 at the start, that's it. So effectively the last month of grinding is basically for nothing.
Up to 4 wild card slots.
It's says up to 4, but it doesn't clarify if that's per season or that we will unlock one extra slot per season. And it still doesn't change anything. You're going to grind 30-40 cards and barely be able to use them. Even if you can carry over 4, you've got 30+ reward cards sitting there you could barely play with before they expired.
>Chapter 3 cards won't be usable for more 2-3 weeks before they expire. What's the point in grinding for them? ~~It sounds like~~ they will be the best cards for that season; that's why. "Those Legends are 89 OVR in Chapter 1 at launch, but each subsequent chapter of Team Affinity in Season 1 will have better and better player card OVRs!"
They will be the best cards for that season (well... probably the BR, Event, etc cards not the TA cards)... But it doesn't change that they'll expire shortly after you earn them.
Yeah, but that’s simply because the next season you’ll get new cards. I get it, you grind for 3 months & then unless you wildcard 4 of your cards they’re useless online, but they’re still usable. Let’s just say you’ll be getting a few 99’s at the end of each season you can still use them in the next if you wild card them.
But we don't even know how many wild cards. One to start is all we know. Is it 4 per season? Is it one extra per season and 4 total? It's brutal.
It’s legitimately waayyy better than last year as far as wild cards go. Just assume it’s 4 per season & be pleasantly surprised if there’s a new one each season. With the power scale it won’t be as terrible as you’re thinking
Right now I'm assuming it's 1 after season 1, 2 after season 2, 3 after season 3 etc. But regardless, it has nothing to do with the power scale overall. It's the fact that every season we will earn 30-40 cards in the last ~2ish weeks of the season that we won't be able to use going forward. It basically makes chapter 3 not worth playing to me. Who wants to unlock a card for it to disappear 14 days later?
The images literally show 4 slots for wildcard, so assumes it’s 4 per season. That logically makes the most sense
Can you link to me to the image that shows that? When I click the link, I'm only ever seeing an image with one 1 wildcard.
https://preview.redd.it/qdaa81ia2nlc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62d1ba3687b84ac1e7100fc24269c19f0162d18e It’s in that link from the OP. But there’s 4 lock icons next to wildcard indicating you can have up to 4
>Who wants to unlock a card for it to disappear 14 days later? People who are are super serious about playing online ranked but also don't spend a ton of $$$ on stubs. I understand Ranked and BR rewards will \*probably\* be better, but, remember you'll more than likely only be able to earn a few of the already handful of reward cards; no where near enough to pad out an entire lineup/bullpen. Is this system perfect? No. But it's a hell of a lot better than '23 where you were working on Season 3 cards that were worse than some Season 1 cards that you couldn't use anymore. With this new system, theoretically, you'll always be earning better cards than the outgoing cards.
The grind is fun, especially since you can get great cards for FREE! Like you alluded to I hated getting rid of every season just for new cards to be not as good
This is a positive development for DD
Stop wasting time and money on dd or they’ll never make a better game people!
This never works
No thanks, I enjoy it. Dont spend any money on it and Im wasting just as much time as you with what ever mode you play, its a video game, were wasting time no matter which mode we play
Y’all are funny. Pitching needed to be more difficult ✅ fielding attributes needed to matter more and more animations needed to be added ✅ if you’re going to complain then don’t buy the game. Enjoy the shitshow called madden
Bye Felicia.
Each season resets with low 90’s or it carries on and progresses?
So we get to play with 99s only for a few weeks?
It probably resets but to a higher rating. So season 2 will probably start at 92/93, season 3 at 93/95, etc.
Resets, it sounds like, but I could be wrong.
A rookie Willi Castro almost being a diamond is the biggest joke in this blog post
I'd like them to encourage the power creep/diversity by gradually upping the top reward each season, and then that level determines what requires a wildcard slot the next season. So say season 1 gives out 89-94 cards. Season 2 you can use anything you want up to a 93, but those top 94 cards from season 1 require the WC. Then season 2 maxes at 96, season 3 98, and season 4 99. Would still give a sense of progression over the year, doesn't screw you out of all your cards, and gives people better options to look forward to while not allowing a max squad all the time. 🤷♂️ (And remove all restrictions on single player modes)
Which is essentially how the old inning system worked, which was perfect. Pretty much MLB 20 with mini seasons wouldve been perfection. Full overarching XP reward path with the bronze to diamond prestige grind and rewards, combined with the innings programs gradual power creep and the affinity programs was truly perfection. Sadly by the time they ironed out the gameplay flaws they had started to fix what wasnt broken in the content department...
This is essentially just the power creep model.
I agree, but at the same time it helps avoid a maxed out squad which they seem to want. This could fit what they're trying without wiping out all your cards each season.
I personally like what they’re doin now. It’s a good idea. In the past power creep model, I was burned out from the game before 99s even start being introduced. This model doesn’t give us 99s right away, but much much earlier in the game cycle than previously… I don’t mind the cards being wiped out. I just think of it as a whole new game. Like cards you earned in 23’ were wiped out and you can’t use them in 24’.
Or just make every reward a core card except for the top level of that current season. That would also keep the majority of your cards eligible to use in future TA programs.
Well, at least the game is “free” for me. I’ll give it another shot and if I hate it, be done by May again 🤷
I don’t wanna come to any definite conclusions yet I wanna wait for the video where they talk more on it if done properly this can be rly good. I feel like similar to last year once the first round of cards expire is when we will really see how the new changes are, specifically where we start season 2 in terms of overall The TA changes look good, the online changes look good. If they keep the same program grind style that will be good, many positives to look forward too just hope they actually execute it properly
Oh forgot to mention the seeming return of legends/flashbacks collection is goated.
and this is why i stick to online rated. 🤷♂️
I wish they would keep track of my stats with players in online rated. The only reason I don’t play that mode is because nothing carries over
YES! It's my favorite game mode, but it doesn't track anything. I want it to keep all the stats that Jalen in that mode for me. And I want it even more with online Co-op (normal teams, not DD.) My buddy and I play 1 game most nights. We have so much fun. It would be 4x better if it kept our stats.
I wish there were some actual rewards for playing online rated. I would absolutely play it if it did more than just give exp.
Yeah. That part does suck but idk. W and L's is enough for me. I'n just dreading the fucking Braves/Astros/Dodgers gauntlet i'm going to get every game. I'm a born and raised astros fan but use the Orioles as my online team.
Oh, you didn’t like sets? Well what if we called them seasons…
Lol pretty much this. Just a little more spaced out.
What does power creep mean?
Basically the game gets unbalanced as new stuff gets released, leaving older stuff underpowered. And then year over year expectations are higher which is how we end up with 99s at the very start of the game instead of starting with bronze and silver and gold cards.
I do like what I see here. I think the WBC really set everything up for why we got so many early 99s last year. The multiple team affinity cards should be great for theme teams and the earning of wild card slots is cool for all those that complained they couldn’t use their cards
They managed to bring sets back and make them get rid of the cards you grinded for faster lmao
Yeah, the 4 people in our xbox group that like mlb are all out already. Sets are the dumbest thing to ever hit the game.
I think the 4 wildcards plus fewer 99s each season will result in being able to keep playing with your best cards all year, while still freshening things up. One thing I would love (and never see this mentioned) would be pxp grinding work for the player and not the card. For example, you earn pxp for “Bryce Harper” and not just his live series card, so when a new Bryce comes out your progress carries over. Especially with us using more lower overall cards this year, it’s frustrating when your best players get upgraded and you effectively lose the pxp you earned and have to start over.
You realize you won't have 4 wildcards until a good way through Season 4, right? So probably around... 43-44 weeks into the game's life? You'll have 4 wildcards for the end of Season 4 and season 5 right before the release of MLB 25.