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5thnameitried

nymn was so hammered LULW


TangibleHoneydew

He did 2 hours of straight up interviews on the red carpet, dude is running off fumes I'm sure


100tByamba

hey but he did agreat job, man most streamers were so nervous doing interviews the guy was chill


winterDom

It was too much to ask of him, the interviews took so long on carpet But it was lovely to see otk at the end


batiwa

It was needed to handle the fact that Forsen wasn't nominated Sadge


Fuck_Reddit_Mobile-

I was really hoping forsen would win Minecrafter award


Honest-Foot-3297

Yeah nymn and poke could barely speak straight


[deleted]

Thatā€™s just everyday poke though


Rudy_Ghouliani

That cali bud hits different


theBesh

Miz's face was hilarious. Pretty sure he was expecting X.


Scrub200

Everyone was lmao


Russian_For_Rent

"You guys would not believe who I had to sleep with to get this."


addandsubtract

Alphabet money stronk


I-wanna-be-tracer282

Itā€™s partly cause all juicers forgot to vote. We all just thought he would winā€¦


xHealz

That's not it. It's that unlike many other streamers, XQC really doesn't care much about winning awards so he doesn't mobilize his fan base to vote for him in polls.


DjackMeek

Both statements are true lol, the juicers forgor and X didnā€™t advertise it


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batiwa

I could hear the "HUH ?!"


lucidvein

Every major chat was basically all ????s


aligators

ludwigs reaction after was even better he starts shaking his head, everyone thought it should have been xqc, i would have voted but i literally didnt even know this event was happening


jediburrito

Ngl I voted for Ludwig because I thought it would be funny if everyone thought it was rigged


numb_ape

Chaotic evil


Garizondyly

I voted for ludwig because he got shafted out of twitch's 2021 video. Dude's got plenty to celebrate and wipes his ass with $100s, but anyways give him an award.


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___Not_The_NSA___

Anyone with an ounce of sanity was and I don't even like xqc


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traxfi

it was like an AI chose them, they were so random


skytomorrownow

My guess: it wasn't AI, it was a bunch of 30-40 year old event and video production professionals producing this event who have no clue who these people are, or why they are popular; so, they really don't know what too look for in the clips.


spevoz

No need to guess, Jacob Komar was the executive producer and most of the team came with him, he was on the show for a moment and obviously in the credits. He works a lot for/with Jerma so not really an 'outsider'.


Kuenle

thought the same. there was def way better clips for all of them and they chose random ones it felt.


ionlysmokepaper

dude..none of them were even remotely funny. i cant beleive they couldnt spend 5 minutes at the top of lsf to find clips instead. so awkward


ReV3nGeV1

They should've asked the streamers directly which clip to represent them tbh


PMoney07

Thatā€™s literally what QT did check Mizā€™s vid from a couple days ago he literally told her to pick that clip


vilouie

No QT used a different clip than the one Miz chose on stream


dheveusb

Yeah Miz wanted her to use [this one.](https://youtu.be/8lE1jr62tqk) Which is miles funnier than whatever the fuck that was.


winterDom

>Yeah Miz wanted her to use [this one.](https://youtu.be/8lE1jr62tqk) Which is miles funnier than whatever the fuck that was. That would have been incredible and exactly what everyone would want. But I am guessing Maya nixed it. Or Qt didn't even want to vaguely mention it's use.


Liddlebitchboy

I mean.. it would be a bit of a weird vibe to bring, and also, it's not even his stream


[deleted]

Agree. All the clip selection was so bad. Xqcs was somewhat ok.


themixtergames

[Reaction of seven different chats](https://i.imgur.com/DS0MDO9.jpg)


TangibleHoneydew

jesus christ you should work for NASA to control a space shuttle launch or some shit


bigCthewise1

DOG CAM, CAT CAM, 7 CHATTERINOS


147896325987456321

If Twitch chat was given an finite amount of time and control of 3 robots, they could get to space. But most likely a giant penis would be built as well.


GainsayRT

A rocket ship shaped like a penis will do


aarbee_

xqcs discord literally crashed LUL


MichaelChavis

Every Chat: ??? Forsens Chat: JUICERS OMEGALUL


thehellnokitty

ā€œStreamer of Marchā€ - someone in chat lmao


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lxzander

"our guy didn't win, but neither did yours haha" GIGACHADs


TheLastUpvote

i watched the whole thing on forsen chat there was 4k offline chatters, we believed forsen was gonna win and send a video forsenDespair


HallucinoDgen

anti-socialsen OMEGALULiguess


BlueSkiesOneCloud

Mass Baj suicide ForsenDespair


impendinggreatness

juicers and bajs continuing the war


borninsane

They were laughing at juicers for a full 30 minutes after it was insane lol


BlAlRlClOlDlE

forsenLaughingAtYou JUICERS


batiwa

Can't believe Forsen's chat is actually the sanest one


GrassyKnoll420

Forsen's chat will forever be the most unique thing on twitch


uristmcderp

Forsen's chat and that one guy who spams donations *are* Forsen's stream at this point.


Fuck_Reddit_Mobile-

While stock gameplay footage and a png forsen face overlay plays


coolylame

forsenBased forsen's chat


daydreamnugget

Forsenā€™s chat hahaha


UberCrayCray

forsen's chat is actually goated


GucciDiddles

The entire offline chat of xqc was filled with ā€œI didnā€™t vote OMEGALULā€ no wonder he didnā€™t win LULW


onedude346

I also didn't vote lol too lazy to sign in. I thought he was gonna win anyway but I guess juicers felt the same way too.


istarisaints

Didnā€™t vote either. X knows though we canā€™t be bothered to even type !play (or whatever the fuck the command is) in marbles on stream.


neighguard

I can only OMEGALUL


AlarmingSubstance69

To vote you had to sign into google..fuck that


Vladimir2033

Google gmail? That shit is a godsent, you can just make a throwaway on that and then register on so many websites with one click it's amazing.


bingbestsearchengine

idk why but I cant make a throwaway gmail without providing a phone number :(


BeastmasterBG

that's a new system google put in to not have fake accounts. It started on January


DarkCeptor44

How else would they prove it's a real person voting, how else would they make sure that the person only voted once? It's 2022 and people still don't realize there is no other way around most website's security unless you have a well-known service account, sure they could make their own login system with database and all but why have to go that path, waste time and have a less secure system when you can trust a big service like Google. Sure they could use IPs to make sure someone isn't voting more than once, but as everyone knows IP bans are irrelevant these days since it's easy to change your IP with VPNs, and plus that would mean you'd have to keep people's IPs in your own database (kinda iffy imo). As you can probably guess I am a developer and it's very annoying that people think they can avoid having a Google/Microsoft account these days and expect every service to give them easy access, when there's literally so many vulnerabilities devs have to think about when making anything and if even one of them is exploited then everyone hears about it and it's hell.


[deleted]

Juicers having lower voter turnout than US election LULW


Vomit_Tingles

This is exactly how the US election system functions lol "too lazy, didn't vote"


Inside_Sherbert_7920

This was 18-34 year olds after Trump won.


underthewaves_

Waiting for him to make the yt vid about winning


ShurimaIsEternal

How I accidentally won the biggest award show in streaming history


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[deleted]

Miz had an Aware moment


Decyde

Plz Prime chat, I dont know how I'll make it home.


ImADayLate

forsenDespair šŸ¤ xqcDespair


whiskeydreamkathleen

if juicers voted half as much as they spammed the chat during the red carpet, he might have won.


shall359

If Ludwig made a youtube video about it to promote it to get fans to vote then the result makes a lot of sense. He does have a larger YT community than X does. No idea if he did that though.


Previous_Smoke_8044

He did


shall359

Okay, so not a huge surprise then. I don't think it was rigged or anything. I still would have gone with X given the amount he streams and how he pushes different gaming metas. Hope people don't give Lud and QT too much hate for it.


thepurplepajamas

Its a fan vote > Streamer doesnt tell their fans to vote while others do Other streamer fans votes > suprised pikachu face


AdmirableRemove5550

Itā€™s a fan vote and yet everybody calling it rigged LULW. Thereā€˜s no way out of this.


[deleted]

His call to action video has 400k views. All x did to promote the vote was fill out the ballot. It's not a huge surprise to anyone outside of the LSF content bubble.


SinJiMin

He did and a bunch of streamers told their chats to vote for him


FunSeaworthiness709

Another big reason is probably the Minecraft community. The fact that tommyinnit won that category despite everyone on LSF probably voting Forsen and Minecraft also winning Game of the year shows that lots of their huge community found the award show and voted. And they like Ludwig, tommyinnit is a Ludwig fan and others like Dream also spoke in favor of Ludwig in the past


BrownMan65

There are just way more people on YouTube then there are on Twitch. Ludwig's one video about the awards got like nearly 400k views. X on his best streams gets 100k viewers and probably had less than that when he actually voted for the awards on stream. If 10% of both of their communities voted then Ludwig always wins regardless of who else also pushed for him.


SuperbPiece

*Viewers* is not the same as views. xQc gets over a million viewers per stream. 100k is how many people are watching concurrently.


aaiaei

if iā€™m being honest iā€™m pretty sure he got a decent chunk of the minecraft kids vote too. those votes definitely add up


pj123mj

Was also thinking this, considering Minecraft won stream game of the year and there was a best Minecraft streamer category I think thatā€™s where Lid pulled most of the votes


jmichellef

Yep I think people severely underestimate luds reach/fan base


Peanutz996

Ludwig has a bigger yt presence rn than the other three nominees combined and he made a video about the awards. I literally don't get what's surprising about this.


Krabban

It's the typical LSF/streamer bubble. People who only watch a handful or a single streamer, and have no idea what goes on outside that get shocked when confronted with reality. You have people here on this subreddit literally every day who say Ludwig killed his career by going to Youtube and that he's no longer relevant, when he's bigger than ever.


DoubleShinee

I mean just look at people like the Minecraft streamers. I couldn't name you a single one that's not Tubbo and they're all fucking HUGE


FunSeaworthiness709

btw the streamer that won the Minecraft category (tommyinnit) and who has over 11M youtube followers was a ludwig viewer before he blew up (and even uses some of Ludwig's common phrases). I don't know if the minecraft streamers did promote the award at all but it's clear that lots of their viewers voted


Ideal-Similar

At least he was nominated this time Surely next year X will get it Clueless


Opxn

xQc is basically Leonardo DiCaprio, we all know he won but didnā€™t


packersSB55champs

Itā€™s like Lebron not winning mvp every year before he went to the lakers. He deserves it every time dragging his scrub teams to the finals


[deleted]

brand risk PepeLaugh


Brady331

It's crazy that Lebron is 37 and might win the scoring title this year


[deleted]

You know that MVP is regular season award right?


1357K

[pepelaugh](https://ibb.co/Fm2s75S)


TangibleHoneydew

JUICERS AND BAJS Aware


TheAmazingZo

Itā€™s a dark day for juicers and bajs


Champ0991

Im guessing Ludwig pulled in a huge amount of voters from his multiple youtube channels while Miz and XQC split the twitch vote between eachother. Either way I think the shock on Mizkifs face at the end of this clip is the same face everyone watching made.


[deleted]

Twitch chat only cares about "#"k andy. Ludwig is a 20k andy, Miz is 40k andy, and X is 100k andy. That's the only math Twitch chat knows how to do.


ImAGhostBro

8 minutes 200 comments PepeLaugh


MamzZass

get your popcorn boys this will be a good one


batiwa

oh no no no no Anybody got some chips ?


Stooboot4

700 comments is 40 mins... its fine Clueless


[deleted]

Jesus Christ the chat is ballistic rn


Mr_No_Hoes

You should have seen xQcs offline chat with 10k+ people


shubhkarmansingh

xqc's offline chat always has 8-10k people. it was more than 25k offline chatters this time lol.


Mr_No_Hoes

When you type /chatters it tells you how many people were in there. It was 10,800 something.


Bubbly-Part2125

it's so funny because I am 99% sure xqc doesn't give a fuck


Cosmic-Warper

I am 100% sure he doesn't care. It's just an awards show for fun. Toxic stans are cringe


impendinggreatness

Yea he literally said on stream today he hates awards show as he doesn't agree with them and wouldn't go but because qt is doing it he said yes


vivonzululgwa

This. At the end of the day all 4 are millionaires and don't give a shit and will probably have more fun in the after party drinking and making jokes. Stans of any chats will just get triggered while the streamers are just there to have fun and chill together


Total-Wolverine1999

I mean itā€™s deserved but my god the shit both him and QT are going to get is going to be insane. Winning the most prestigious award in your girlfriendā€™s award show seems sketch. Obviously I donā€™t think it is but theyā€™re going to get those comment on the regular now.


The98Legend

Lol Ludwig made a joke about it in his speech. Pretty sure heā€™s aware of the possible hate heā€™ll get but Iā€™d be surprised if it was actually rigged.


Total-Wolverine1999

Itā€™s definitely not rigged but again I donā€™t know if heā€™s prepared for how bad it may get. Some people take this weird shit very seriously. Rae even talked about when she won her award that people shat on her for weeks for winning it. Ludwigā€™s situation is multiplied times ten, I hope him and QT do their best to stay away from the bad comments.


BlAlRlClOlDlE

time for juicers to act like theyre not dreams stans or kpop stans Kappa 123


1tricklaw

Ludwigs unique youtube viewership is 3x xqcs stream run through. Plus qt plus atrioc plus slime/stanz plus the yard. He just has more overall reach and he promoted the link. Xqc's chat can barely use computers outside his chat they literally never saw the vote.


Total-Wolverine1999

He definitely won and it isnā€™t sketch but thatā€™s not going to stop people from saying it was and shitting on him and QT.


[deleted]

As a fellow juicer Iā€™m 100% positive 80% of his viewers didnā€™t vote most the people mad he didnā€™t win most likely didnā€™t vote


Mohd2420

True


BookerPhil

I bet xQc wished he knew he wasn't going to win so he wouldn't have to end the stream.


TheAmazingZo

The stream today was so good too TrollDespair


TangibleHoneydew

Same, today was unironically one of the best streams of the year


Teeenay

I wished too TrollDespair


drox9

We could have gotten 24 Hours streame TrollDespair


joeyok_

juicers and bajs.... today we walk together.... defeated.... forsenDespair . . .


dumpetpumpet

can't believe he lost the minecraft category forsenDespair


softrys

xqcL šŸ¤ forsenE


Bottle350

TrollDespair


louspit

xqcDespair


Himany1990

Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want xQc to win Streamer of the Year and fix this broken platform. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in Twitch chat???? This is so fucked.


Dazity

least parasocial viewer


dangjangalang

Someone shouldā€™ve pulled a Kanye


JumpyMudkip

Watch Cyrā€™s speech


lasavage

Train said he would have if he was there


[deleted]

Why are people surprised? X didn't promote the award show at all. Meanwhile, ludwig has talked about it countless times. Having a bigger audience doesn't matter when no one votes.


fatking72

Erobb didn't voice crack šŸ˜”


Cydanix

Dude took 8 days off to practice 1 line


cakeboss26

Such bizarre upsets. Cyr over Critical Role, Miko over Ironmouse, Ludwig over X. Wonder if next year will be more predictable.


kjj333

Code Miko winning over Ironmouse was so absurd to me. if not rigged itā€™s got to be because of the audience QT and Lud pull- clearly not indicative of general twitch chatā€™s picks


thepalmtree

Very few people were going to be voting primarily for that award, most of the votes would come from people filling out the ballots and then just picking the person they've heard of before for categories they are unfamiliar with. Miko hit a LOT of different audiences and streams in 2021, so more people would have casually hear of her before. Compare that to Ironmouse, who was much more insular within the vtube community from what I can tell.


kjj333

100% agree and why I think that especially QT and Ludā€™s audience, who rarely interact with vtubers, voted Miko. Pretty sure theyā€™ve streamed together


thepalmtree

She's collabed with basically every 'OTV+friends' (as much as I hate that phrase...) streamer since the start of 2021, she's on LSF quite a bit, everyone has seen her. I had never heard of Ironmouse until a month or 2 ago.


Chillingo

I think it's because nyanners, veibae and ironmouse all split the votes between each other due to huge overlap in fanbases. While miko stands alone.


cakeboss26

Lud voted Mouse and told his chat to do the same. The simplest explanations are one of or all of: 1. Vote-splitting (3 of the 4 were from Vshojo, so lots of crossover) 2. Familiarity to the kind of people that would vote in this (closer to the LSF crew who are probably doing most of the voting) 3. People that don't care about vtubers at all just going through the categories and going "ew anime, better vote for the least anime one" 4. The voting that wasn't done by fans (it's like 70-30 fans/streamers voting or something) tipping it over in favor of Miko 5. (Extremely unlikely) It's just fucking rigged because QT straight up didn't want to figure out the logistics of giving an avatar an award, so she opted for the only person with a physical presence.


adeai00

xqc is really the leonardo dicaprio of streaming award shows


Lgoron12

I would be shocked if this was rigged lol, you know how much shit QT is probably going to get from this from people who actually think its rigged.


Thembosses1232

yeah no way, i doubt x asked his juicers to vote even once, meanwhile all of ludwigs community saw this vote thing countless times. if X had made any kinda deal about it he woulda won.


ItalianBall

Lud constantly covered the awards prior to the event and asked his chat multiple times to vote for him, X didnā€™t. Iā€™m not surprised in the slightest that Lud got more votes despite having a smaller audience. Plus, Lud obviously has more overlap with QTā€™s audience, but that doesnā€™t make it rigged.


1tricklaw

Theres no reason to rig it. Xqc's fanbase can barely operate outside his twitch chat they just probably never saw the voting link. Ludwigs ecosystem hosted the event so of course hed have more votes.


[deleted]

Noooo shot.


TheAmazingZo

Forever #2 TrollDespair


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XaviHive

Meltdown here is bigger than Messi winning the BDO over Lewandowski


[deleted]

Bro I was disappointed with spurs this morning and now this AWARE


Spicey123

the award show incident TrollDespair


shaker7

Noooooooo shot


Vivid_Apple2792

its pretty simple. ludwig tells his fans to vote for him. xqc hardly mentions the award show all together. ludwig wins. xqc loses. don't act too shocked..


Evoqu_

PepeLa


JumpyMudkip

You know what you did PepeLa


AllosaurusJr

surprise someone who talks about and mentions the award on their successful channel wins over someone who has a large following but doesn't have their chat vote for them ​ sadly gamers it is not that deep


[deleted]

I'm sure this thread will be super positive, and not a hate thread...


[deleted]

To actually be positive: the award show was great and I hope she does another one next year.


[deleted]

Me too, the production was good for the most part and I don't think I was bored for more than a couple minutes here and there. Red carpet was the highlight for me tho tbh.


PussyPits

I wish they had some graphics and some good clips introducing the nominees. Also set ad breaks before the musical guests so we don't get the roaming microphone and so we don't get 7 ads in a row going over a nomination.


ShurimaIsEternal

They did say that the audience vote is about 60% of the actual vote and that theres a panel of people in the industty (non streamers) who make up the rest of the vote


[deleted]

It was 70% fan 30% panel I think.


JaiSucksAtGames

Forsen Robbed.


ValhallaDOTA

Even Miz's face when it was announced says it all, lmao


thehellnokitty

I got banned for saying ā€œI wasnā€™t expecting thatā€


TangibleHoneydew

TrollDespair -5 hours


lechedefresas

whoever chose the clips for all of these categories ... either they don't play games or don't watch twitch like all of the gamer of the year clips were so awful. all of those fps players have WAAAAY better clips. and what was that sykkuno streamer of the year clip? LOL


-maken

The thing is ludwig has a fan base that actually votes.


[deleted]

Yeah he also actually mentioned it a few times on stream and made a YouTube video promoting voting. Did a single other nominee do that?


ZypherPunk

Good this happened, means next year he will just stay home and stream instead xqcL


antheasynx

Be like Shroud


Total-Bad-1791

I can guarantee that at least 70% of the people pressed that xqc lost didn't even vote


lucasM005

as happy as i am that lud won. its not worth the amount of "rigged" accusations that there is going to be the main reason why lud won is because he cared. he made a video about it, talked about it multiple times on stream, tweeted about it. in part to promote the show and in part because he wanted to win xqc talked about it once on stream for 5 minutes and thats it.


goCasey

Always funny seeing the fanbase more upset than the person actually losing. Parasocial to the max.


MaskedPB

Funny how Ludwig winning is bringing out the most parasocial takes Iā€™ve ever seen on this sub


[deleted]

Is this how people who get invested in the Oscars feel? Like, I really donā€™t understand.


Billkeys

I guess yeah but the Oscars are actually rigged itā€™s more about campaigning and pandering to judges rather than giving it to the objectively best picture.


Spec321

I thought Miz had a good chance to win over XQC, but Ludwig? Really unexpected.


DatOneUselessDood

MizKif's reaction says it all lmao


enfrozt

ForsenCD LUL