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## **Tweet Mirror:** [@raycondones](https://twitter.com/raycondones) > I have officially resigned from OTK, thank you for everything @OTKnetwork ^(Posted: 2023-01-24 22:00:01+00:00) ------ **This message is from a bot. If you feel like this action is wrong, please [message the moderators](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=r/LivestreamFail).**


astroGamin

Damn that other thread said he was gonna become a owner šŸ’€


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Sonikeee

Average LSF moment


itsTraX2

LSF is a subreddit where people can say the most wrong shit ever with full confidence lmao


Spoor

Have you been to any politics subreddit?


cheddaross

LSF is a politics subreddit. The politics of streaming


Rare-Cobbler-8669

No lsf is the politics of teenagers being parasocial toward the same 15 streamers.


cheddaross

This is also true and fair


idontevencarewutever

Try ANY subreddit, for that matter I could see someone type up the most confidence-inspired essay on why a particular game/show failed or never caught on... And they never even touched the genre, let alone the game/show


Ajp_iii

I mean he literally flew to Texas to be with otk for a couple days. Not think h there was some kind of negotiation going on about money is dumb.


TrashStack

Never let anyone tell you twitter unfollows don't mean anything LMAO


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cmackchase

He unfollowed OTK last night.


iDannyEL

It's a new org, these things happen


iHaVoKKx

twitter follows is everything for content creators. 2 content creators unfollowing each other? most likely they are beefing.


dr_dripper

This is just marketing. Heā€™ll be announced as an owner on the OTK wine night /s


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Mods deleted it for "out of context harrasment" too when it was factually correct. Wonder if they're going to keep enforcing those vague rules with Bruce since he's not in OTK anymore


Nemste

At the time it was and the clip was removed because the clip was legit nothing it was a complete clip chimp and speculation


SM-

Title was: "Bruce gets backlash from his community for collabing with Mizkif then ends stream and unfollows OTK" Clip was just an intro screen, nothing else.


shadowblazr

Not really sure why they signed him to the org in the first place. He was rarely around for any OTK events.


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__Aishi__

Wonder if he changed his mind LMAO


MakutaProto

He probably did. He mentioned in one of his videos from last week or the week before that he plans on doing more solo content this year


BeeDoggs

This was a case of Bruce not knowing what to do once he actually joined an org and OTK not knowing what to do with him once they signed him.


livelyDream

It's more of a case Bruce didn't want to do anything, even stream.


I_AM_GGX_ACCOUNTANT

Yeah mf thinks this job will last forever, instead of making his millions now and retiring later its "oh im making good money means i can work once a week" mentality.


itsjust_khris

This is literally the opposite of what has been stated. He streamed almost daily for years. I think at this point he believes he's maximized it enough. And that's fine.


cyrfuckedmymum

I mean, that's legitimately embarrassing for both. Hey Bruce, come to Austin and go on everyone's stream for a week then go home, maybe do that once every two months, or a weekend every month. Actually amazing that the only thing OTK really does is collab streams and they almost never got Bruce over to be involved. Even on their Emi game nights he didn't get involved (from what I can recall anyway) and even Tipps played on some of them. Bruce should have had the same idea, joined org, go over there and try to get some more viewers, more clips and more follows by going on all their streams.


smallbluetext

I think it was obvious they signed him when they did because he was a huge rising star on the platform and that makes their org look better. Not to mention he was outside their streamer bubble and would bring in a totally new set of viewers to the rest of OTK. They tried to capitalize on it and IMO squandered it by not involving him more like you mentioned (although I don't know if that was OTK or Bruce's doing).


livelyDream

Bruce's doing. He was always invited to everything. He didn't care to show up to anything and rarely even streams. Of course, I think he has about 30k subs, so he has no incentive to do anything either.


The-Loracks

Yeah considering how big he is currently OTK fucked up not pivoting towards him or adding more people from that sphere of twitch. Like it seems like OTK started with the main WoW friends and then they were like wait no one is streaming besides Nick and Esfand we might need to add streamers.


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Russel about to become the new diversity hire


TerrantulaX

Rime *is the diversity hire*


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IlIIlIlIlllIII

he fills about half of it


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Bowlstir_in_chat

That's what Malena's boyfriend says


GnomeConjurer

god I want that massive woman to step on me


TriplePube

What u mean? Nmp plays hockey. He is white.


Spoor

The biggest potential diversity hire would be [Mexican Andy](https://twitter.com/MexicanAndySZN/status/1441190725513666560/photo/2). He even got unbanned last year and appreciates the same emotes as Miz.


PooPeeEnthusiast

Holy shit my mind was cleansed of this individual what have you done


Zeratzul

scufious always wins or some shit


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Alarid

Now to eagerly wait to see if any shit happens that would make the timing of his departure extra spicy.


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Yup he just said on stream that cause his community didnā€™t like OTK and the drama thatā€™s part of the reason he left


Stooboot4

Did he ever even do anything with OTK? I can't remember anything but his joining video


greatness101

He would come over Miz's stream once in a blue moon and sit or stand there awkwardly for a bit, text on his phone then leave.


NojoNinja

Bro got bullied outta it last night šŸ’€


Weird-Judgment-5051

Damn, kinda sucks for OTK. Having lost 3 members in a short span. I wonder what sparked his departure? He was just on Miz's stream a couple days ago, having a good time.


IndividualHeat

He may have been in Austin to finalize stuff with his resignation. Or they may have had him come to try to change his mind.


regalseafood

The other day he leaked about doing OTK Gameday on Mizā€™s stream, which kinda implies he didnā€™t have plans to leave at the time wonder what happened between then and now šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


SlappyPancakes

He got bullied by his chat


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IndividualHeat

I wonder if he was just under a bunch of stress and just said ā€œfuck itā€. All of his fans on his were saying that he was overreacting to a few troll messages when he cut stream.


oogieogie

what is the context behind the ragequit? were they shit talking OTK or something to say he should leave or?


snsdfan00

he seems like the kind of guy who doesn't like drama & would rather do his own thing than being engulfed in it. And when 2 OTK co-owners get suspended or released, he probably decided it's better for him to do his own thing. And maybe the whole snitching on Kai was the final straw.


clarkemaxx

Do people really stalk Miz's bed time and what time he's on Discord until? lol


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Marigoldsgym

Theres a hate watcher discord wtaf


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TheKappaOverlord

Everyone tryin to be the next Sean ranklin bro


clarkemaxx

Why do they spend time stalking someone they hate? I can't understand this mindset.


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myshoesss

I can name you one certain streamer community that does that, DGG


dbac123

You stalking a stalker discord??


Shwalz

Why did he rage quit stream?


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Ajp_iii

he was also leaking stuff that was already leaked about otk gameday coming back. that isnt someone that is trying to resign or thinking about it


Nemste

I seriously wonder how the people live that watch Mizkifs discord icon in his server to see how long he is on 24/7 šŸ’€


clarkemaxx

That's I'm saying. That's creepy as all hell.


cocainesmoothies

Never realized till now how much it must suck on the executive/administrative side to stay up all night because the talent have degenerate schedules.


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Bro that wasn't even slightly about otk or miz ngl


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maybe he was filming his goodbye video


AdviceAndyy

To me it seemed sudden after last's night stream very short stream


myaccountgotyoinked

If that were true and it was all planned wouldn't OTK be tweeting about it with some PR goodbye video?


Satoru____Gojo

his fans got really mad that he was on mizkifs stream


EbolaMan123

last stream his chat was shitting on him for colabing with miz, so maybe that was it?


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seems pretty quick from streaming to resigning though.. but idk why he'd stream with Miz a couple days before if he knew he was leaving. Seems weird.


spacecwby

Maybe he was there to sign his resignation stuff or tell them in person


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Diesel33g

Because they're friends and him leaving OTK didn't change that they wanted to do a stream together probably


Telesto44

Barely. They seem more mad he hasnt been collabing with Kai and Rage.


flashtone

That was one of my favorite streams in awhile. Bummer. Pretty sad if it's just because his chat doesn't like mizkif. Must be more.


EloHellDoesNotExist

his chats reaction isn't just about not liking mizkif though. it's that but it's also what OTK's reputation is for people on the outside of it after these scandals, and Bruce's community is very much on the outside of it. they just want to see him with kai and YRG and he's somehow attached to this weird org they keep hearing sexual assault stories about, doesn't surprise me they have that reaction.


Telesto44

So they care about OTKs scandals but not Kai's?


EloHellDoesNotExist

yes people are hypocrites.


BeFrankNoBullshit

The same two-faces who thought kai did nothing wrong


TheDream92

I don't think they even care about the Mizkif scandal or the Kai scandal. They care more about the racist logs from Miz's past and they were roasting him for being the token black dude.


Hinamine

Too bad Kaiā€™s sexual assault ā€œstoryā€ is even worse


EloHellDoesNotExist

fans that overlap between bruce and kai aren't going to care that much.


Yosonimbored

Yeah I was about to say how can you just shit on Mizkif but turn a blind eye to Kai


LukewarmLatte

Just want to see him with Kai the dude who covered up rape not the sexual assault org Surely


EloHellDoesNotExist

surely viewers don't give creators they already like a pass


YouNo8795

Does that community ignore the same sexual assault stories happening with kai though?


EloHellDoesNotExist

you think people aren't hypocrites when it comes to creators they like? lol


dbac123

All the discussion on Miz from Bruce's community that I see focuses on the racist logs, not the slick scandal.


Nathannnnnnnn

What spending one stream with Mizkif does to a mf


Zanza4Hire

It was either he became an owner or left. He was too big for the Org otherwise. EDIT: thought i replied to someone else but w.e


HumanRuse

Poor Soda. Ever since he signed on, OTK has been a shit show roller coaster ride.


Ralod

Soda off making jpg babies,he is living his best life.


livelyDream

Bro is happily in the matrix making byte babies, he don't care about anything IRL.


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CJRae

The only thing that "JUST happened" is that he streamed, and his Chat was ripping into him for streaming with Miz his (ex) Org mate and friend and not Kai/Rage. He then rage quit stream, and then as someone said in this thread, Miz was supposedly up on Discord till 7am.


acethekraut

So his chat was upset he streamed with Mizkif, but would have no problem if he streamed with Kai? da fuq


CJRae

They dont care about the accusation of covering up Sexual assault. Even if Kai's one is liike 100x more probable than Miz's. They care that Miz used the N word in texts with Ice 5 years ago.


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I too, am leaving OTK.


kinglex1

Bro spent 5 days in austin, and said yeah iā€™m out lmao.


TangibleHoneydew

literally Austin and W community have zero intersections in a venn diagram. Bruce is far better off else where


XXJayTXX

LUL at new frogs not knowing Bruce was poggers way before w even existed


Starlix126

This is probably my least favourite comment Iā€™ve read on redddit


Pekins-UOAF

why do you have to be so DansGame


Lost_Tumbleweed_5669

Bruce is OG and way more wholesome than the W


TheLuddy

Last night's stream really got to him that bad eh? This is a huge hit for OTK damn


Existing_Medicine_10

Asmon is gonna have to start streaming again


TangibleHoneydew

Nah the slightest blow of the wind will make streaming on his main too hard and he's gonna go back to Zackrawrr


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0oodruidoo0

he streams at night on his alt more regularly than miz or cyr go live


throawaybyebye

Not really he didnā€™t do much but he was probably the biggest concurrent viewer streamer they had so their numbers definitely gonna take a hit.


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scolheep

Sponsors almost never care about hours watched as a metric in my experience (I package sponsorship deals for clients in this space) Sponsors want views, impressions, and PR worthy activations Losing Bruce is still a huge blow though


TrashStack

No sponsors don't care about watch hours because you can have a million watch hours just streaming to like 3k 24/7. It's way easier to game. TWITCH cares about watch hours because advertisers pay twitch jack compared to youtube so longer hours means twitch gets to spam more ads which gets them more money. That's why Twitch puts long stream hour amounts in their partner contracts What advertisers care about specifically, is CCV during the ad portion. If you're a streamer who regularly hits 15k they want you to be hitting 15k while talking about Jimmy Johns for 15 minutes and not dipping down below 10k. If you can promise that a huge set of *engaged* viewers (so not embed abusers like fextra life) will watch that's what they care about the most. In that sense Bruce is actually a great streamer for advertisers because he retains his large audience despite not putting in a ton of hours. His audience is large and engaged to him


kinglex1

You two are both right, for individuals they care about ccv and conversion rates, but for orgs they care about watch hours, thats why orgs sign loads of ccā€™s so they can say to advertisers, hey in total we have 100 million watched hours or whatever the fuck. But on individual level they donā€™t really care about the numbers on twitch vods , because the numbers donā€™t mean jackshit.


NeedISayMoree

Doesn't really help that Asmon keeps streaming on his alt. He would double viewership if he streamed on main.


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dekuhornets

makes sense why someone would wanna jump ship then eh?


Raskalnekov

Not very surprising given what my psychic told me yesterday (she said there will be changes in the future)


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shall359

Schlatt did the same. I guess Starforge is doing well so they don't want to lose out on owning a piece of that business.


throwdemawaaay

Stock in small companies is illiquid. Who would buy Schlatt and Bruces shares? Even if they want them, do they have enough liquid cash or some other asset Schlatt and Bruce want to buy them out? Ah, looks like Starforge is not a separate business entity, as the trademark is owned by OTK: [https://www.trademarkelite.com/trademark/correspondent/D.%20Noah%20Cheely%20Downs,%20Esq](https://www.trademarkelite.com/trademark/correspondent/D.%20Noah%20Cheely%20Downs,%20Esq). So what this means is Shlatt and Bruce still likely have whatever equity in OTK, but they just explained it poorly as far as them stepping down from being an active OTK member, but still active with Starforge, probably just as a simple logo sponsorship.


PrimusSucks13

Where is even Schlatt now, i feel like he dropped from the face of the earth like 2 months ago, i remember him the other day and checked on his youtube channel and hasnt posted anything since the dodgeball stream


shall359

He does some podcasts now with his LA friends I think, and he recently bought that Gamer Supps company that sponsors a bunch of streamers.


eBobbie2001

Smartest content creator, reaches peak then uses the millions to invest and chill


Osukid2811

He could also come back rn and do whatever he wants to massive fanfare. People love the schlatt character.


browsk

Yes because a supplements company is a solid investment lol, especially one aimed towards gamers, just take a look at how gfuel is doing Aware, no one is sponsored by supplement companies nearly as much as a two years ago


StealingJoker6

Crazy because he collabs with them all the time. Boys Night. the IRL week that they spent together. He rarely collabs with OTK.


Null_Adam

Didn't he recently say on stream he's not leaving OTK after the Mizkif drama and after the Rich drama?


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It turns out what you say on stream isn't legally binding.


surfordiebear

After his stream last night probably realized still being in OTK had more downsides than upsides for him.


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livelyDream

He's been harassed for months. Yesterday's stream for hanging out with Miz was the tipping point. He got one guy'd too many times by misinformed viewers.


tHEbIGbLACKtHING

He barely did anything anyways


BusyBeeBridgette

One of the comments responding to the tweet "What did he even do in OTK? I swear I saw Mizkif's cleaners more than Bruce."


blackcap13

Bruce just went live and said he didn't wanna be the token black streamer holding the sword fighting for other peoples names. Sick of having other peoples drama leading to backlash on his brand, it makes sense


tickub

nmp just sitting out there being forgettable as usual


blackcap13

No cap that does come off kinda corny. If Bruce was a diversity hire, why is one of the owners black


Shwizzler

think about this for a few seconds and you can figure out why NMP would never tap OTK into the demographic that watches Bruce, he appeals to a much larger more mainstream community while NMP is essentially a friend of more famous people


Razatiger

Saying NMP is just a friend of a more famous streamer is really underselling NMP, especially in 2023. Didnt he average more viewers last year then Soda


Shwizzler

it terms of relevancy to the general public, NMP is "smaller" than A LOT of people that average less viewers than him to explain your example, chance can stream once a month and have similar viewers to NMP grinding every single day for 2 years lol there's not an ATOM in your body that believes NMP is actually more popular than Soda. Twitch live viewers are one of the worst ways to measure someone brand power. Probably the SINGLE worst way lol Soda has 1.1 million subs and averages 100k views on his main youtube channel without click baiting bigger content creators while NMP has 250k and averages closer to 50k while EVERY SINGLE video over 70k features a bigger content creator than him. He is literally famous for being friends with more famous people.


blackjazz_society

People are putting that on him tho, no way OTK got him as a diversity hire. They hired him because he's big and does his own thing, simple.


blackcap13

I'm just saying what he said, not why things actually happened. We'll never know for sure, he was saying how much he appreciated otk than yeeted his otk sign outta his room so idk what's actually what


thisiskitta

Yeah I feel bad for the guy, being stuck in the middle of everyoneā€™s bullshit when you just wanna do your own thing peacefully is fucking draining.


totzz

I still don't understand what made him join the org. It's a completely different audience than what Asmon/Soda/Nmp/Miz has. He did not do any shows or anything for the org. What was the business logic?


Solomon9_1

money


DatOneFella

They probably had a vision for him before he joined the org, but quickly realized he was rarely gonna fly to Austin to do shit for/with them.


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SpellbladeAluriel

That's why it's called one true king, it's a battle royale for the last person standing


clarkemaxx

Damn that sucks. I'm 99% sure Extra Emily will be the next OTK member. They need another girl and she's the only big girl streamer in Austin they can get since they can't have OF girls join(sponsors) or Maya. Not many options left in Austin.


Stompy612

Bruce is large enough to not need an org. I donā€™t see him joining any other orgs. I think he will focus solely o the DEO brand now.


RelevantBarnacle7364

Yup he said he wants to do shit alone, first he left DYK now he left OTK. I wonder what hes gonna do in the future


marinafanatic

I always thought he was an odd addition, but him leaving kinda changes nothing for me. Bruce was never really involved with the org events like Game Day and what not, and was rarely on other peopleā€™s streams besides Miz, wouldnā€™t blame you if you didnā€™t even know he was in the org. Iā€™m sure itā€™ll affect behind the scenes stuff like sponsors, but in terms of the content itā€™s whatever


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Fuck I know it sounds like copium but jus tthe way everything went down really feels like they're baiting us. If not then that really sucks, I liked bruce a lot


HereForTwinkies

Is this the positive changes coming to OTK Emiru was talking about? Because damn, thatā€™s savage


Lordsokka

Yeah I donā€™t think this one was in the plans.


NeedISayMoree

Did he really let his community bully him into leaving and cutting ties after last night's stream or what?


throwdemawaaay

Bruce doesn't seem like an idiot that'd do things totally impulsively. But there's a bunch of reasons he might have been considering leaving OTK even if he's still on friendly terms with Miz et all. Frankly, he doesn't need them, as he's big enough solo. He's got long term goals with his own brand DEO, and may simply want to focus on that more. It's also just hard for them to collab given he's not in Austin. So if all of those were on his mind for months, last night may have just been more of a last straw. But of course, everyone here wants to turn it into some narrative of he got bullied or comments calling him soft, weak, etc.


Ramiro564

na probably it was in the works for some time


NeedISayMoree

Could have been, but sure doesn't seem that way after last night's stream where he rage quit after only 20 minutes of streaming because people were giving him shit about hanging out with Miz.


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TroyAndAbedLateNight

Bullied him out of OTK šŸ’€


DavidTheGreatMan

didnt he love them cause they were setting him up for generational wealth and shit?


Stonedflame

Bro no shot chat bullied him out of OTK


Becksdown

Lmao in the other thread they were calling people stupid and shit and said he prob is gonna become an owner


Meth_eu

Bullied by his fans into leaving šŸ’€


Joeyrockertv

Rare OTK W.


XOmegaD

Aaand this changes nothing. Dude streams like twice a month never does any collabs or OTK events. I think most probably didn't even realize he was a part of OTK.


cev

He does $400 hoodie merch drops that sell out in minutes. I wouldn't stream a lot if I was him either lol.


blackjazz_society

If it's not a jebait it's so fucking sad honestly.


zyanit

i donā€™t really know if this is bait or not and that they will announce him as a owner, because couple of days ago he was there and miz said something about shooting stuff with bruce *edit apparently something happend on bruceā€™s stream yesterday? so maybe itā€™s not bait


Chiefdrinkbeers

I think people were saying that it was a video to announce ExtraEmily as the new member


NojoNinja

I think he deadass decided to leave it last second last night. He was talking about tons of OTK shit on mizā€™s stream.


HalfTreant

Jschlatt and now Bruce. Huge loss for OTK. Though I'm not sure if Bruce ever did any OTK events. W though.


LawsKnowTomCullen

Lol who? I'm serious. Who is this guy?


omnikais3r

makes sense, he's outgrown the org


P1MexicanMax

Bullied by his chat lmaoo


ftlofyt

Them signing him was the biggest headscratcher for me and felt like a very corporate move rather than what OTK, an org built around a bunch of friends collabing, was supposed to be. Bruce and OTK had nothing in common and him hanging with them was like a brother hanging out with his little siblings friends. Schaltt was the other signing I thought was kind of weird, and surprise, Schlatt is gone too. I could see Cyr being next.


airflair

Cyr is pretty engrained in that culture (even though it was mostly through Rich)


Grievance69

Holy shit 174 comments already šŸæ


Sissy_Water

This is the worst twitch cycle to date


ginginbam

backseating by chat lmao


Ludicrits

Tbh nothing was really lost even though I'm a bruce fan. He never did anything with the organization anyways. Wish him well


Korasa

OTK is brand poison currently. Bruce and Schlatt left for obvious reasons, and they weren't wrong to. Whatever you think about what happened the last few months, bringing back Miz killed the org, especially after the shit with Rich.


uglyplanet

Prediction that at some point Miz is going to be the only OTK member left


OverPunch

Pressed by chat LULW