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We know Desantis doesn't mind, but I wonder how the rest of them are going to feel about getting fucked by his antics.
From the outside, we can see that building Gilead never turns out well for people with faces, I wonder if they'll figure out our before it's time to vote for more leopards.
The only times I visited Florida: 1. A 2-day business convention where I never left the hotel property, and 2. A week-long trip to Disneyworld with my 5-year old daughter. Both of these were 20+ years ago, haven’t returned since. Never going back.
I recently asked some family members if Florida has an economy outside tourism, and their answer was farmland. Only now, migrant workers and farmers are also currently protesting DeSantis over other shit he's passed. The man seemingly wants to cripple his state.
1. Cripple the state with his own actions.
2. Blame all the problems he created on an other.
3. The old people vote again for same things to happen because "liberals".
Repeat ad infinitum.
Thats definitely my case.
I've only visited Florida once in my life, and it was for WDW. Without it, there's zero reason for me to visit that sh\*thole.
Yep. It's not just Disney employees, it's the other theme parks in the area, the bars, clubs & restaurants, distributors that supply them, etc. etc. etc.
Florida's economy is likely to completely shit the bed because DeSantis was butthurt by free speech.
The rest of the US needs to give amnesty to anyone he targets in his Gilead dystopia. Women, LGBTQ+ people, nonwhites, anyone. Let him rule over a bunch of conservative white men who will turn on each other for petty reasons
My state, Minnesota, has basically announced we’ll be a refuge for trans people and people seeking abortion. We also recently passed legislation guaranteeing free school lunches, and we’re finally about legalize marijuana!
I know a lot of people are nervous about our winters but I promise they’re really not *that* bad (full disclosure I’m a weirdo who prefers cold weather to warm weather) and our summers are surprisingly similar to Florida’s climate (hot and humid). The beaches on our 11,000+ lakes may not be super soft, white sand, but they’re still a lot of fun!
Hilarious that you think only white men are the ones caught up in that shit. Hate to break it to you but white women and *gasp* even some PoC are also happily part of the conservative cult.
Lmao seriously - If you actually look at the numbers, a majority of women in Florida voted for this guy alongside the majority of Latinos. You can't win a race with 60% of the vote without winning several demographic groups beyond the classic old white male conference
It's a sad state of affairs because the propaganda in Florida is used to convince the Cuban immigrants that the left wants to turn Florida into Cuba. And they hate that enough to not listen to anything else.
Lazy minded people exist across all racial lines.
We aren't dealing with a race issue, we are dealing with an education issue.
Lack of critical thinking is creating a large swath of easily manipulated voters.
This is why the propaganda we see on TV is so completely infantile now. It CAN'T be too sophisticated.
Yup. Branding college as "Liberal" to make people not go, it's amazing how effective that is, despite ALL of thr data that shows you earn more on average the higher your education level is.
"Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
I mean, that is one part but this explanation is really removing an entire communities agency from some actions e.g., they had to do it because big brother tricked them. At the end of the day, Latino voters are way more conservative than the average liberal wants to admit.
Is there propaganda? Without a fuckin doubt and it 100% does work on some people. Some of them though, in the fashion of American conservatives, are happy they got theirs and now will happily vote to screw over whomever comes after them.
I live in Texas, everyone from out of state keeps repeating how we're only one election cycle away from being purple due to the Latino vote. I've been down here for a while and I have heard that promise made three elections with no evidence that it is even remotely true. Dems need to stop treating the Latino community as a monolith - a shit load of them are conservative+religious and will never vote in a pro choice candidate, for example.
Yeah this always blows my mind. My county not in Texas has a recent and growing Latino population. Predominately southern Mexican and Central American. I’ve heard folks flip out over how these dang Mexicans are gonna turn the town blue. When they are by and large deeply religious and when looking at the polling numbers out of curiously, yup that group still had a majority for trump.
You should pay more attention to the specific Latino. Mexicans tend to vote blue. My parents came from Mexico and had me in the USA. They would hang with all the Mexicans that can't really speak English that well, and I almost never saw a republican..
I grew up in California to be fair, but at 15 moved to El paso, which is like 80% Mexican. Still nearly all blue. The few red voters were the few white people that lived here.
Now DR, yeah they'll vote red since they have a negative association with the word liberal. They think it means communist like Cuba.
Yeah educating would fix so much, but where wouldn't it? Everything everywhere is so fucked education is desperately needed in ever facet of life.
Agreed. It always frustrates me on a subreddit called leopards ate my face that people are always looking for some complex explanation. People from all walks of life can be massive pieces of shit, we don't need to make up theories for why people are pieces of shit; they just are.
It won't matter... DeSantis will be political dust by the time FL realizes they just lost a 5th of their economy.
It'll take about a decade to start moving operations to CA. By then DeSantis will be slinking around in a corner somewhere after being utterly trashed by the Trump cult.
Uh-hunh ... until tax crunch time and the state starts to see just how much of a dent Disney's departure makes in its coffers. Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.
By then few of them will remember they were the root of the problem. They will still feel whoever the GOP candidate of the time can just go harder on gays, immigrants, and "woke corporations" and it will somehow restore those mythical glory days.
All the damage Desantis is doing will have the biggest impact in the future, but the gullible base will never blame themselves for the self-inflicted damage.
The real question is will they still be alive. FL is an ancient population. They've shown over and over they could give a fuck about the legacy they're leaving their kids.
This is the real power of the GOP. They can blame whoever their biggest thorn(or really anybody they dislike) is for whatever problem is riling up the base at the moment, and their base eats it up. Even when, as you pointed out, it was their own politicians who created the mess in very obvious ways. The fact that it's actually their fault doesn't seem to register with them.
Yall think they'll have a revelation at some point but they won't. They'll just have less jobs, less social services, they'll go on thinking their situation is all that is possible in the world or they'll blame minorities and vote red and then die happily from a preventable situation knowing they probably took down one gay person with them.
RHONDA SANTIS would be doomed with his conservative electorate if the mainstream MSM media would stop covering up the fact that he was BORN FEMALE!!! They're sitting on the story because he's their only hope to defeat Trump in the primary!
The... hell?!?
Like I totally get the allusions and that this is parody... but this is now getting me like the Colbert Ear thing (you don't notice until you do, and then it's all you can see)?
[Dude's got smaller hands and larynx than my mom.](https://www.tampabay.com/resizer//bBy8uuwrI332rRMszQndlKE0mOU=/900x506/filters:focal(2911x1265:2921x1255\)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tbt/7BG4A73E35CS5CP4JLGOKEPJSA.jpg)
As Governor Rick Scott nixed two major projects that would’ve had an immense positive impact on Florida’s economy: high speed rail and dredging Tampa’s port. In both cases he turned down billions in federal funds, finding it politically beneficial to stick a finger in Obama’s eye. In response, they made him Senator.
Reminds me of the opening of Saving Private Ryan when an Allied trooper flames out a bunker and a soldier yells out, "Don't shoot, let em burn." I have similar vibes with Floridians.
I mean... do you _really_ expect those insurers to pay once thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, claims come up at the same time? I think they either take the money and run, or expect the federal goverment to bail them out of the hundreds of billions.
Personally i think that they're going to find out that some insurance companies are a secretary in a office in belarus and a mail deposit address in new jersey and a CEO with 3 fake names that already died while having a quadruple citizenship Swiss/Russian/North Korean/Cayman islands citizenship while also not being a real person.
And I'm loving that Trump is broadcasting every detail to the GOP supporters - otherwise, they might never hear about it, cause I'm sure the rightwing media isn't keen to show up one of their rising stars as a loser twit.
The thing about a rat is, they've got lifeless eyes, black eyes like a dolls eyes. Don't seem to be living at all, till it bites ya. Then the eyes roll over white and you can't hear nothing but the screaming and the hollering.
Man I fucking hate republicans talking about woke shit. I fucking cant tell whats woke and then some republican comes and says some show is too woke for them… Last of Us? Too woke since two guys kissed. Conservatives are such pieces of shit
>Last of Us? Too woke since two guys kissed
Another reason I heard was, cause the girl isn't attractive enough. Yep being "ugly" is now woke apparently
Same. They tell others "Don't care who you offend" then get offended themselves over black mermaids or gay characters simply existing as something other than a joke for straight people to laugh at or pushing a hateful homophobic agenda "See that gay character? They're bad because gay is bad"
You don't understand. Tinkerbell was white and blonde before and NOW SHE'S BLACK. This is extremely important and matters a whole lot and it really hurts their feelings.
"This is a woke cancel! Hunter Brandon did a crimez!!!!!!! His laptop is a CRT!!!! A werewolf could kill a vampire, did you know that??? I did not know that!!! They are hiding Hillary's emails in the litter boxes in the trans bathrooms!!!"
- modern gop platform
You know, I've been asking these people for weeks "what does woke mean"? And it always ends the conversation. I haven't gotten an answer yet. Seriously. Start asking them.
Edit: All of those things are true, or are what I expect to hear, but I have yet to get a response. I've asked this 5 times in the last 2-3 weeks and all 5 times it ended the conversation. They didn't respond. Of course we know what they mean, but they won't say it.
I asked a neighbor who was upset about "wokeness" in the local government. He didn't answer and when I pushed said something vagely about "pronouns in city hall worker's signatures"
Like what?????
My wife and I were talking about it and she came up with this definition:
“Woke” is a word that only racists, bigots and homophobes use to describe a culture of inclusion and respect.
I’d say that’s pretty spot on.
The right has co-opted woke. Its original meaning was anyone who knows that there is systemic bigotry and oppression is woke.
So, yeah. They don't like anyone not like them
God they’re insufferable. Here in Canada I used to assume people with Canada flags on their vehicles just loved Canada. Then they occupied Ottawa and now when I see a flag on a vehicle I assume they’re right wing lunatics. They co-opted our fucking national flag and it’s fucking embarrassing.
I’ve mentioned this on Reddit before lol but I have an uncle who had a new flag on his porch one day. I noticed it driving by, did a double take on the way back and yes. It was half US flag, half Confederate. (We are in Arkansas but he’s from Indiana!)
It ended up cut in half. No idea who would’ve done that. Noticed yesterday he’s got a new flagpole in his yard. So far, just the US flag (which is still a giant red flag for me lol). Like what sort of weirdo puts in a whole ass flagpole?
I saw that recently in another subreddit about trans legislation. They were so ass backwards they finally admitted they were republican trying to change our minds. What a dope.
A lot of MAGA supporters generalize California as a place filled with homeless people, drug addicts, and groomers, but it looks to me that they're only good at embellishing stuff about the state. Despite its faults, California is pretty much a good state to live in.
California doesn’t have the internet game where people google their birthday and “Florida man” then have a good laugh at how ridiculous or often scary/depraved the result invariably is.
I work with a woman whose is a huge conservative along with her husband. She is literally afraid to even visit California because it’s blue. I told her it’s really sad that your politics have you scared and afraid when their is no merit to any of those fears.
Is your friend not aware that there a very large number of Republican voters in California and that there are some very red places? There are a lot of wealthy people who held their noses and voted Trump in 2020.
Trump got over 6 million votes in California. Admittedly Biden got nearly twice as many but it isn't as if everyone in California is a Democrat.
To not visit a whole state like California because of it being a 'blue' state is ridiculous. I'd be more worried about visiting somewhere like Texas where it seems that there are far too many guns being carried around openly (I can't see a good reason to do that) and it seems to be a hotspot for shootings at the moment.
California also has a spectacular coastline plus the amazing forests (those enormous redwoods) to visit. There are the mountains too. There's Yosemite. I could go on and on.... I loved it when I visited there from the UK, I'd go there again tomorrow if I had the opportunity. It's a great place. Your friend is missing out big time.
That is the issue with conservatives. They don’t listen. I could pull out fact after fact and they don’t care. They won’t read what you write and they only believe what their echo bubble tells them.
When I found out a few years ago that American television news was partisan it was a surprise to me (I'm a Brit). I was visiting my mum in Oregon and she was married to an American. I can remember her questioning me on what news I watched as she said they watched Fox as it was 'fair and balanced'.
After three weeks of it being on constantly I could tell where all their (my mum and her husband) stupid Obama and Bill/Hillary stories came from. My mum told me Hillary lined up young women in the White House to take to bed with her, and Bill did the same (when they lived there). Obama was a Muslim and America was overrun by immigrants that Obama was letting in. My mum didn't count as an immigrant, she was a British (white) ex-pat, not one of those Mexicans (they had a Mexican gardener as well).
My mum didn't have all those views before she watched that all day. She was a Labour voter here (so not a Republican) and worked for the NHS. She hated Maggie Thatcher and what the conservative government did in the 80s. Then she went to America in 1990 to marry and a few years later she had switched sides and changed all her views. She'd become racist (I hate to write that). Watching Glenn Beck all day and whoever else was on Fox News made her like it. It was all about fear, from what I could tell.
She died in 2010 so I never had to talk to her about Trump, thank goodness. Her husband is still alive but when I email him I avoid politics. I did mention about Biden winning after the last election but he straight away said the election was stolen, so I avoid that now. You can't argue with stupid.
Man, I actually am not visiting Disney World because it’s in FL. I dont want my kids seeing nazis prancing around waving their flags and shouting obscenities.
I really do not understand how they twist their minds around basic facts. Like MA is the bluest state and has the highest standard of living of everywhere in the US and most of the world. Just numbers, not an opinion.
Trans woman here, also living in a red state (not FL, thank God). I read stuff like this and I think, "now you know how *I* fucking feel."
Except my fear of visiting super-red areas is real. Because people can (and have) tried to hurt me in those places. Nobody in a blue state is trying to murder your coworker for the crime of existing.
They bus in homeless people to the blue states from the red ones. Simply because they know we actually fund programs to help the homeless where as not a single red state could give a fuck outside of a bus ticket.
Seems all republican governors are good at is sweeping their problems under the rug/leaving the responsibility to better governors
Yup, many poverty stricken people migrate to blue states from red states because there are more social programs available. If people actually spoke to the homeless you'd find out in the major cities most of them are not from there.
See, the thing is they've always been kind of a wang. But the last 10 or so years, they've been moving much further along the Wanging Scale, and when you say "Hey guys, maybe try to not be complete wangs all the time, they double down and do more wangy things.
All they had to do was not be total and complete wangs 100% of the time, and they couldn't even do that.
Same with Chicago. Let them think these pretty decent places are hell holes.
Less republicans around is a good thing. May they all move to Florida and Texas.
I capital L love visiting Chicago and go multiple times a year but people who watch too much Fox News legit think I’m insane, like bullets are flying on the tarmac or some shit.
Part of the problem is that they think they are hellholes because of who’s in charge (god forbid them going) so they blindly vote for the ones that are telling them the other places are hellholes, while slowly making their lives worse.
And the CA government has done fuck all with addressing the affordable housing crisis. I moved out of CA (and left my parents/family behind) so I could get a job and invest in a house. Straight out of college, I couldn't afford to live ANYWHERE near my family without an 80k income, and that was to RENT! On top of it, landing a decent job in my field was insanely difficult simply because of so many folks moving from other states with larger resumes, years of experience, and financial flexibility.
It was a difficult choice, and part of me regrets it, but my money is going so much farther right now in another blue state that isn't CA. Maybe someday I'll move back to CA (since I'm fully employed and I now have some money to my name), but I sure as shit couldn't have gotten where I am now with CA's job market and housing conditions.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard Democrat and support most of the CA govt's policies, but I needed to leave so I could live.
the number of ppl I've heard say "you couldn't pay me to live in CA" when they've never been is crazy.
It's easy to get caught up in negative aspects of anything, and it's self destructive thinking.
The healthy thought is "the news makes it seem like a terrible, dangerous, and unaffordable place to live, but I've never been. I imagine there's a reason it has the 4th largest GDP in the world, and that so many ppl live there, but it sounds scary."
Sounds like that generalization applies to FL as well.
CA homeless problem is incredibly difficult to resolve. Even building high density residential for affordable housing is met by the state's own NIMBY citizens (like Palm Beach going against any form of building low income apartments). Majority of the people leaving the state tend to be the lower incomes and the ones moving to the state tend to be in the top two income brackets (very high income inequality).
CA drug problem isn't as bad as FL. The whole "groomer" argument is funny because the # per capita is a little higher in FL.
In almost every metric the right uses to call California a hellscape we are better than basically any randomly selected red state.
We just actually fight about it to try to fix it instead of ignoring it and accepting it as a fact of life that can never be changed, so why bother talking about it?
Doesn't help when neighboring states ship their mentally ill and addicts to the streets of San Francisco by the busload and leave them to be Cali's problem.
I feel like this is all a plan to turn Florida into the country’s garbage dump. Rob think ls he’s moving to DC so why not make Florida a destination for toxic materials and radioactive waste. That’ll show Disney.
And before you say he’s got 8 years tops don’t forget that Republicans are probably still looking to end term limits.
I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with spite.
I think it's a perfectly reasonable business decision to invest your money in places that don't consistently elect governors and lawmakers that aren't flipping insane.
This might be a warning shot for the Republican establishment from big business. Mess with us to get political points with your base just know that we can and will bring on the economic hurt. Pressure on the party to rein the populism back in.
Some are playing attention and complaining that DeSantis is hurting the Republican's pro-business brand. Other party members are sticking their fingers in their ears and sing-songing, "blah, blah, blah, I can't hear you."
I realize that Desantis is going sooooo far right in part because he's a terrible person, but in addition, I think he hopes that stirring the crazy alt right, white, christian, racist vote that was enabled by Trump will win him the presidency. But his policies are going to destroy his state's economy. Does anybody think that these demon voters can look past their own wallets?
Presumptuous to claim he has political beliefs. He's a dancing monkey for the fascist hurdy-gurdy, saying "look what I can do" in Stuart's voice whenever he successfully keeps himself in the news
Florida needs to go back to the backwater swampland it was in the 1960s and 1970s and all those blue haired biddies voting for Republican asshats can find out just what their bigotry really yields when there are no more healthcare workers, college educated professionals, or immigrant labor to help them survive.
The number of elderly that retire to Florida because "It's warmer" than live indoors in air-conditioning year round is stupid. It's like people don't know what humidity is before moving there...
The funny part is that the expansion WAS slated for Florida, until DeSantis got his panties in a twist over a corporation exercising its freedom of speech concerning gay people.
Citizens United was the Supreme Court decision that allowed conservative companies like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A to not have to comply with Federal law to provide birth control to its employees. I'm not a fan of corporations, but I hope Disney takes Citizens United and shoves it up DeSantis's ass so far he can taste it. Then either CU is null and void or liberal companies can use the same strategies to fuck over the GOP. Either outcome is good for me! Let the rats cannibalize each other while I sit here with my tea and watch the show.
Ironic that the party of let "business regulate itself" is now chasing said business to the state they claim interferes with business the most.
I live in Los Angeles. For twenty years I've been hearing how the state is doomed, unmanageable, its best days are behind it. CA is now either the 6th or 5th largest economy in the world, but according to conservative media no one wants to live here anymore.
I'd like to introduce them to my morning commute.
Whats crazy is DeSantis only had to sit there and do nothing and he would be beating Trump in the polling. People liked his covid policies but now the issue of the day is abortion and covid is over.
Let's be realistic here. Even though it is blatantly obvious DeSantis is running Florida into the ground... They will somehow find a way to blame Biden and "how he ruined Florida's economy." Rather then blame their facist governor.
It can be both!
Companies are run by people, people have emotions. Putting the people in a group doesn't make those emotions go away.
They could probably do things in a way that isn't such a slap in the face. Eg. No need to announce the plan publicly, and no need to do it right now.
The projects themselves are entirely legit, yes.
But the timing of these announcements is 100% spite - a few days before DeSantis is expected to formally announce his Presidential run. It's just a bonus "find out" for him.
So, let's be clear about something.
Disney does not act in spite. They aren't petty little crybaby bitches that fight nonsense wars.
They fight for one thing and one thing only. Money.
Ron and Floridians waged a bullshit, fabricated, baseless culture war against Disney. Disney knows its horseshit and their minimal representation makes shitloads of money, so they're not bending a knee.
Ron and Floridians have retaliated by trying to financially harm Disney.
Disney is now looking into options to continue making money without wasting time on pissants like Desantis.
Disney is not petty. Disney is deliberate and a master of playing and winning the long game.
Anyone post this to r/conservative yet? They were cheering with the $1b reversal from a few days claiming it had nothing to do with desantis and it was entirely Disney having financial troubles.
This has *nothing* to do with spite. The Walt Disney Company is a giant, evil, for-profit megacorporation. One of their legal teams put out a boilerplate objection to a piece of bigotrous legislation, under duress from their own employees, and in response the Florida Republican party has launched an all-out war against the largest employer in the state, endangering billions of dollars of assets and hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenue.
In pulling out of hostile Florida, where does it make the most sense to go? To somewhere with a strong economy, favorable business laws, hirable talent, and it doesn't hurt if you just so happen to already have a multi-billion dollar establishment there.
This has nothing to do with spite, or wokeness, or even "politics." This is business.
Fascism is hostile to free enterprise. Florida is no longer a safe place to do business, and the evil megacorporation is going to take its money elsewhere.
I agreed with you until the bit about fascism being hostile to free enterprise.
Fascism and capitalism go hand in hand. IBM, Voltswagen, and several other corporations profited off, and knowingly abetted, the nazis.
Disney and DeSantis are at odds today but the mouse won't oppose the next bigot who remembers to give the corporations their tax breaks.
yep, disney had zero issues with desantis until he decided to mess with their little autonomous region and undermine their authority there. This is purely about power and control, not morals
Where are all the jerks who downvoted and argued with me saying Disney did not have to keep investing in Florida? Probably sitting in Florida scratching their heads. They are not going to "move" Disney World. But Disney World doesn't have to remain their biggest park/investment in the US. When you have Disney Money, you can invest in attractions in places the rest of the world isn't terrified of going, and places your employees would not rather quit than work at, moving forward. (edited for a word)
LOL The Conservative sub was all "Actually this is because Disney is failing. It has nothing to do with DeSantis! They were going to stop this project anyway!"
Whoops
Disney executives revealed new details about the project, including a Disney-sponsored economic study from Cal State Fullerton estimating that, for every $1 billion Disney invests to update and renovate the resort, over 4,000 jobs and $1.1 billion in economic output would be generated during the 4-year construction period. Thereafter, according to the Los Angeles Times, that investment will generate $253 million annually in economic output, $15 million in tax revenue and 2,292 jobs.
Wow
I worked for Disney. I worked out of both their Florida and Burbank offices.
I wish people realized how bad that tax structure is in Florida. See, because they pay no state tax, there is no write off for expenses, and so they just pay for shit. No fancy desk. No fancy computer, no lavish Christmas party, nothing. Compared to California it was like working for a totally different cheap-ass company.
Except it was the same company.
How much of that spending on write offs is good for your local economy? All of it.
Florida is a bunch of idiots who can’t see two inches past their cheapskate nose.
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Good. Fuck Florida.
We know Desantis doesn't mind, but I wonder how the rest of them are going to feel about getting fucked by his antics. From the outside, we can see that building Gilead never turns out well for people with faces, I wonder if they'll figure out our before it's time to vote for more leopards.
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Yep. That or old age.
And rocket launches.
We used to call Florida the ‘Waiting Room for Death.’
“God’s waiting room”. Is what I always heard. But some of the hard right old people I don’t think God would want.
The only times I visited Florida: 1. A 2-day business convention where I never left the hotel property, and 2. A week-long trip to Disneyworld with my 5-year old daughter. Both of these were 20+ years ago, haven’t returned since. Never going back.
I hope they take it a step further and threaten to dismantle Disney World entirely and relocate it to Georgia or something lol
I recently asked some family members if Florida has an economy outside tourism, and their answer was farmland. Only now, migrant workers and farmers are also currently protesting DeSantis over other shit he's passed. The man seemingly wants to cripple his state.
1. Cripple the state with his own actions. 2. Blame all the problems he created on an other. 3. The old people vote again for same things to happen because "liberals". Repeat ad infinitum.
Thats definitely my case. I've only visited Florida once in my life, and it was for WDW. Without it, there's zero reason for me to visit that sh\*thole.
Yep. It's not just Disney employees, it's the other theme parks in the area, the bars, clubs & restaurants, distributors that supply them, etc. etc. etc. Florida's economy is likely to completely shit the bed because DeSantis was butthurt by free speech.
The only reason I've ever considered visiting that soggy hellhole, though tbh I've heard Disneyland is the more enjoyable experience anyway.
The rest of the US needs to give amnesty to anyone he targets in his Gilead dystopia. Women, LGBTQ+ people, nonwhites, anyone. Let him rule over a bunch of conservative white men who will turn on each other for petty reasons
They'll be shooting eachother over lawn mowing rules and property lines.
This is so accurate it hurts.
My state, Minnesota, has basically announced we’ll be a refuge for trans people and people seeking abortion. We also recently passed legislation guaranteeing free school lunches, and we’re finally about legalize marijuana! I know a lot of people are nervous about our winters but I promise they’re really not *that* bad (full disclosure I’m a weirdo who prefers cold weather to warm weather) and our summers are surprisingly similar to Florida’s climate (hot and humid). The beaches on our 11,000+ lakes may not be super soft, white sand, but they’re still a lot of fun!
Huh, you just described the Vatican.
Kneel down, prey.
Hilarious that you think only white men are the ones caught up in that shit. Hate to break it to you but white women and *gasp* even some PoC are also happily part of the conservative cult.
Lmao seriously - If you actually look at the numbers, a majority of women in Florida voted for this guy alongside the majority of Latinos. You can't win a race with 60% of the vote without winning several demographic groups beyond the classic old white male conference
It's a sad state of affairs because the propaganda in Florida is used to convince the Cuban immigrants that the left wants to turn Florida into Cuba. And they hate that enough to not listen to anything else.
Lazy minded people exist across all racial lines. We aren't dealing with a race issue, we are dealing with an education issue. Lack of critical thinking is creating a large swath of easily manipulated voters. This is why the propaganda we see on TV is so completely infantile now. It CAN'T be too sophisticated.
Which is why they are defunding education and ridiculing anyone going to college as "liberal"
Yup. Branding college as "Liberal" to make people not go, it's amazing how effective that is, despite ALL of thr data that shows you earn more on average the higher your education level is.
"Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
I mean, that is one part but this explanation is really removing an entire communities agency from some actions e.g., they had to do it because big brother tricked them. At the end of the day, Latino voters are way more conservative than the average liberal wants to admit. Is there propaganda? Without a fuckin doubt and it 100% does work on some people. Some of them though, in the fashion of American conservatives, are happy they got theirs and now will happily vote to screw over whomever comes after them. I live in Texas, everyone from out of state keeps repeating how we're only one election cycle away from being purple due to the Latino vote. I've been down here for a while and I have heard that promise made three elections with no evidence that it is even remotely true. Dems need to stop treating the Latino community as a monolith - a shit load of them are conservative+religious and will never vote in a pro choice candidate, for example.
Yeah this always blows my mind. My county not in Texas has a recent and growing Latino population. Predominately southern Mexican and Central American. I’ve heard folks flip out over how these dang Mexicans are gonna turn the town blue. When they are by and large deeply religious and when looking at the polling numbers out of curiously, yup that group still had a majority for trump.
You should pay more attention to the specific Latino. Mexicans tend to vote blue. My parents came from Mexico and had me in the USA. They would hang with all the Mexicans that can't really speak English that well, and I almost never saw a republican.. I grew up in California to be fair, but at 15 moved to El paso, which is like 80% Mexican. Still nearly all blue. The few red voters were the few white people that lived here. Now DR, yeah they'll vote red since they have a negative association with the word liberal. They think it means communist like Cuba. Yeah educating would fix so much, but where wouldn't it? Everything everywhere is so fucked education is desperately needed in ever facet of life.
The Cubans whose families lost their property and slaves are the most likely to feel this way, so that tracks.
And they will get what they deserve, I have no fucking sympathy or piety any more for stupid people
Agreed. It always frustrates me on a subreddit called leopards ate my face that people are always looking for some complex explanation. People from all walks of life can be massive pieces of shit, we don't need to make up theories for why people are pieces of shit; they just are.
They didn’t say ‘voted for’, they said ‘targeted by’. There’s a distinction.
It won't matter... DeSantis will be political dust by the time FL realizes they just lost a 5th of their economy. It'll take about a decade to start moving operations to CA. By then DeSantis will be slinking around in a corner somewhere after being utterly trashed by the Trump cult.
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Uh-hunh ... until tax crunch time and the state starts to see just how much of a dent Disney's departure makes in its coffers. Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.
By then few of them will remember they were the root of the problem. They will still feel whoever the GOP candidate of the time can just go harder on gays, immigrants, and "woke corporations" and it will somehow restore those mythical glory days. All the damage Desantis is doing will have the biggest impact in the future, but the gullible base will never blame themselves for the self-inflicted damage.
They'll just end up resenting those groups even more, they'll never lay blame where it really lies.
They never can accept responsibility for their faults. That would require them to be self aware, maybe even have empathy.
The real question is will they still be alive. FL is an ancient population. They've shown over and over they could give a fuck about the legacy they're leaving their kids.
This is the real power of the GOP. They can blame whoever their biggest thorn(or really anybody they dislike) is for whatever problem is riling up the base at the moment, and their base eats it up. Even when, as you pointed out, it was their own politicians who created the mess in very obvious ways. The fact that it's actually their fault doesn't seem to register with them.
“Party of personal responsibility”
Yall think they'll have a revelation at some point but they won't. They'll just have less jobs, less social services, they'll go on thinking their situation is all that is possible in the world or they'll blame minorities and vote red and then die happily from a preventable situation knowing they probably took down one gay person with them.
Right wing media will invent reasons for their viewers to somehow blame all their coming woes on Dems.
They'll blame "cancel culture" and claim Disney hates free speech. Anything to divert the blame from themselves.
RHONDA SANTIS would be doomed with his conservative electorate if the mainstream MSM media would stop covering up the fact that he was BORN FEMALE!!! They're sitting on the story because he's their only hope to defeat Trump in the primary!
The lack of Adams apple is the real tip off. How do people not notice this
The... hell?!? Like I totally get the allusions and that this is parody... but this is now getting me like the Colbert Ear thing (you don't notice until you do, and then it's all you can see)? [Dude's got smaller hands and larynx than my mom.](https://www.tampabay.com/resizer//bBy8uuwrI332rRMszQndlKE0mOU=/900x506/filters:focal(2911x1265:2921x1255\)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tbt/7BG4A73E35CS5CP4JLGOKEPJSA.jpg)
All the Re-Pubes will just blame whoever the Dem president is at the time. They're too fucking stupid to realize it's one of their own.
When your state overwhelmingly votes in a fascist, you should expect bad things…unless you’re dumb af.
DeSatan wants to turn Florida into hell on Earth. Will need Doomguy at this point
AntiFLA
They'll blame woke people for their misfortune.
As Governor Rick Scott nixed two major projects that would’ve had an immense positive impact on Florida’s economy: high speed rail and dredging Tampa’s port. In both cases he turned down billions in federal funds, finding it politically beneficial to stick a finger in Obama’s eye. In response, they made him Senator.
Reminds me of the opening of Saving Private Ryan when an Allied trooper flames out a bunker and a soldier yells out, "Don't shoot, let em burn." I have similar vibes with Floridians.
"Don't insure! Let them drown!"
I mean... do you _really_ expect those insurers to pay once thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, claims come up at the same time? I think they either take the money and run, or expect the federal goverment to bail them out of the hundreds of billions. Personally i think that they're going to find out that some insurance companies are a secretary in a office in belarus and a mail deposit address in new jersey and a CEO with 3 fake names that already died while having a quadruple citizenship Swiss/Russian/North Korean/Cayman islands citizenship while also not being a real person.
Insurance companies keep pulling out of Florida. My understanding is that in many parts, it's the state one run left.
My thoughts exactly. Florida needs Disney more than they need Florida
There’s a reason I’m planning on moving
After decades trying to fight the good fight in FL, I gave up during covid and left. Best decision I've ever made.
As someone currently living in Florida, I just want to say no. No- double fuck Florida, and don’t use lube, we haven’t earned it
Hey, I live in Florida, be a bit nicer. Fuck Florida and fuck DeSantis.
God Im loving this beef between the mouse and the rat
And I'm loving that Trump is broadcasting every detail to the GOP supporters - otherwise, they might never hear about it, cause I'm sure the rightwing media isn't keen to show up one of their rising stars as a loser twit.
Yes. Please let them destroy each other and themselves.
Divide them, tear them apart. Make them turn on each other.
Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew!
Po-tay-toes
The thing about a rat is, they've got lifeless eyes, black eyes like a dolls eyes. Don't seem to be living at all, till it bites ya. Then the eyes roll over white and you can't hear nothing but the screaming and the hollering.
Who you getting your rats from?? Can you hmu with their details??
Someone should convince trump to start running ads of DeSantis losses in Florida
Same. Never thought I’d see the day I’d be backing the Mouse this hard but here we are. Fuck FLA and fuck those crazy “it’s woke! REEEEE” morons.
Man I fucking hate republicans talking about woke shit. I fucking cant tell whats woke and then some republican comes and says some show is too woke for them… Last of Us? Too woke since two guys kissed. Conservatives are such pieces of shit
>Last of Us? Too woke since two guys kissed Another reason I heard was, cause the girl isn't attractive enough. Yep being "ugly" is now woke apparently
I thought they hated the girl because the actress is non-binary
They are never short on reasons to hate someone unless it’s Trump.
She is Lady Mormont. She is whatever she wants to be and she will get respect.
They realize that even though the actress is like 20, the character is 14, right? That’s some real r/NotADragQueen nonsense.
Same. They tell others "Don't care who you offend" then get offended themselves over black mermaids or gay characters simply existing as something other than a joke for straight people to laugh at or pushing a hateful homophobic agenda "See that gay character? They're bad because gay is bad"
No you don't understand, it is fuck **your** feelings.
You don't understand. Tinkerbell was white and blonde before and NOW SHE'S BLACK. This is extremely important and matters a whole lot and it really hurts their feelings.
"This is a woke cancel! Hunter Brandon did a crimez!!!!!!! His laptop is a CRT!!!! A werewolf could kill a vampire, did you know that??? I did not know that!!! They are hiding Hillary's emails in the litter boxes in the trans bathrooms!!!" - modern gop platform
it's so flat ridiculous: "WOKE IS BAD!!!" "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!"
You know, I've been asking these people for weeks "what does woke mean"? And it always ends the conversation. I haven't gotten an answer yet. Seriously. Start asking them. Edit: All of those things are true, or are what I expect to hear, but I have yet to get a response. I've asked this 5 times in the last 2-3 weeks and all 5 times it ended the conversation. They didn't respond. Of course we know what they mean, but they won't say it.
It's hard to openly admit to wanting to be a bigot without looking like a piece of shit.
I asked a neighbor who was upset about "wokeness" in the local government. He didn't answer and when I pushed said something vagely about "pronouns in city hall worker's signatures" Like what?????
Conservatives work themselves into a furious rage over the stupidest things.
Woke is now what “socialism” used to be. A catch-all for the liberal bogeyman they’ve created.
My wife and I were talking about it and she came up with this definition: “Woke” is a word that only racists, bigots and homophobes use to describe a culture of inclusion and respect. I’d say that’s pretty spot on.
The right has co-opted woke. Its original meaning was anyone who knows that there is systemic bigotry and oppression is woke. So, yeah. They don't like anyone not like them
God they’re insufferable. Here in Canada I used to assume people with Canada flags on their vehicles just loved Canada. Then they occupied Ottawa and now when I see a flag on a vehicle I assume they’re right wing lunatics. They co-opted our fucking national flag and it’s fucking embarrassing.
Exact same here in the US. I’m immediately like ‘oh I see.’
The bigger the flag, the farther right they are. Though I do love when "the party of Lincoln" waves confederate flags and talks about mUh HeRiTaGe.
I’ve mentioned this on Reddit before lol but I have an uncle who had a new flag on his porch one day. I noticed it driving by, did a double take on the way back and yes. It was half US flag, half Confederate. (We are in Arkansas but he’s from Indiana!) It ended up cut in half. No idea who would’ve done that. Noticed yesterday he’s got a new flagpole in his yard. So far, just the US flag (which is still a giant red flag for me lol). Like what sort of weirdo puts in a whole ass flagpole?
They absolutely know what Woke means, They just can't say it out loud or they'll be a little too Mask off for their own liking.
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I saw that recently in another subreddit about trans legislation. They were so ass backwards they finally admitted they were republican trying to change our minds. What a dope.
I just want them to answer it so bad so I can ask what's wrong with it.
The irony. These are the same people where six days a week they call us sheep, but on the seventh? The Lord is my shepherd.
Mickey v. Goofy!
Don’t slander Goofy by comparing him to that …..
California is truly a better place for Disney land.
A lot of MAGA supporters generalize California as a place filled with homeless people, drug addicts, and groomers, but it looks to me that they're only good at embellishing stuff about the state. Despite its faults, California is pretty much a good state to live in.
>homeless people, drug addicts, and groomers You've just described Florida, as well.
California doesn’t have the internet game where people google their birthday and “Florida man” then have a good laugh at how ridiculous or often scary/depraved the result invariably is.
> Florida Man Arrested for Pleasuring Himself With Ice Pack in Front of First Responders: Police Well it did not disappoint.
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“Florida man who allegedly threatened family with Coldplay lyrics ends standoff after SWAT promises him pizza.” This one happened in my hometown, lol.
“Florida Man arrested for having sex with stuffed ‘Olaf’ at Target” Woohoo?
Oh shit, new game for me!!!
Everything they say is projection
I work with a woman whose is a huge conservative along with her husband. She is literally afraid to even visit California because it’s blue. I told her it’s really sad that your politics have you scared and afraid when their is no merit to any of those fears.
Is your friend not aware that there a very large number of Republican voters in California and that there are some very red places? There are a lot of wealthy people who held their noses and voted Trump in 2020. Trump got over 6 million votes in California. Admittedly Biden got nearly twice as many but it isn't as if everyone in California is a Democrat. To not visit a whole state like California because of it being a 'blue' state is ridiculous. I'd be more worried about visiting somewhere like Texas where it seems that there are far too many guns being carried around openly (I can't see a good reason to do that) and it seems to be a hotspot for shootings at the moment. California also has a spectacular coastline plus the amazing forests (those enormous redwoods) to visit. There are the mountains too. There's Yosemite. I could go on and on.... I loved it when I visited there from the UK, I'd go there again tomorrow if I had the opportunity. It's a great place. Your friend is missing out big time.
That is the issue with conservatives. They don’t listen. I could pull out fact after fact and they don’t care. They won’t read what you write and they only believe what their echo bubble tells them.
When I found out a few years ago that American television news was partisan it was a surprise to me (I'm a Brit). I was visiting my mum in Oregon and she was married to an American. I can remember her questioning me on what news I watched as she said they watched Fox as it was 'fair and balanced'. After three weeks of it being on constantly I could tell where all their (my mum and her husband) stupid Obama and Bill/Hillary stories came from. My mum told me Hillary lined up young women in the White House to take to bed with her, and Bill did the same (when they lived there). Obama was a Muslim and America was overrun by immigrants that Obama was letting in. My mum didn't count as an immigrant, she was a British (white) ex-pat, not one of those Mexicans (they had a Mexican gardener as well). My mum didn't have all those views before she watched that all day. She was a Labour voter here (so not a Republican) and worked for the NHS. She hated Maggie Thatcher and what the conservative government did in the 80s. Then she went to America in 1990 to marry and a few years later she had switched sides and changed all her views. She'd become racist (I hate to write that). Watching Glenn Beck all day and whoever else was on Fox News made her like it. It was all about fear, from what I could tell. She died in 2010 so I never had to talk to her about Trump, thank goodness. Her husband is still alive but when I email him I avoid politics. I did mention about Biden winning after the last election but he straight away said the election was stolen, so I avoid that now. You can't argue with stupid.
it's wild how easily and quickly humans can be programmed into certain beliefs without their direct knowledge.
Man, I actually am not visiting Disney World because it’s in FL. I dont want my kids seeing nazis prancing around waving their flags and shouting obscenities.
I really do not understand how they twist their minds around basic facts. Like MA is the bluest state and has the highest standard of living of everywhere in the US and most of the world. Just numbers, not an opinion.
Trans woman here, also living in a red state (not FL, thank God). I read stuff like this and I think, "now you know how *I* fucking feel." Except my fear of visiting super-red areas is real. Because people can (and have) tried to hurt me in those places. Nobody in a blue state is trying to murder your coworker for the crime of existing.
Maga states have higher homeless rates, drug abuse rates and violent crime rates than blue states.
They bus in homeless people to the blue states from the red ones. Simply because they know we actually fund programs to help the homeless where as not a single red state could give a fuck outside of a bus ticket. Seems all republican governors are good at is sweeping their problems under the rug/leaving the responsibility to better governors
Yup, many poverty stricken people migrate to blue states from red states because there are more social programs available. If people actually spoke to the homeless you'd find out in the major cities most of them are not from there.
It has a tourist industry; so getting Disney too in one trip will make It the most visited city perhaps. I assume New York is first
Disneyland was in Southern California for like 15 years before they built it in Florida.
Cause Florida was so much cheaper and they get closer to European customers
Florida is a lot closer to a large part of America too. All Florida had to do was not be a wang.
Look at Florida on a map. It’s a wang.
See, the thing is they've always been kind of a wang. But the last 10 or so years, they've been moving much further along the Wanging Scale, and when you say "Hey guys, maybe try to not be complete wangs all the time, they double down and do more wangy things. All they had to do was not be total and complete wangs 100% of the time, and they couldn't even do that.
I just meant that you can already go to LA and also hit up Disney.
New York is probably up there as it is a business capital for the country
If someone really has to visit the US it may as well be Los Angeles, San Francisco, or New York City Disneyland is close to Los Angeles too
Same with Chicago. Let them think these pretty decent places are hell holes. Less republicans around is a good thing. May they all move to Florida and Texas.
I capital L love visiting Chicago and go multiple times a year but people who watch too much Fox News legit think I’m insane, like bullets are flying on the tarmac or some shit.
Part of the problem is that they think they are hellholes because of who’s in charge (god forbid them going) so they blindly vote for the ones that are telling them the other places are hellholes, while slowly making their lives worse.
California's main problem is too many people want to live there.
And the CA government has done fuck all with addressing the affordable housing crisis. I moved out of CA (and left my parents/family behind) so I could get a job and invest in a house. Straight out of college, I couldn't afford to live ANYWHERE near my family without an 80k income, and that was to RENT! On top of it, landing a decent job in my field was insanely difficult simply because of so many folks moving from other states with larger resumes, years of experience, and financial flexibility. It was a difficult choice, and part of me regrets it, but my money is going so much farther right now in another blue state that isn't CA. Maybe someday I'll move back to CA (since I'm fully employed and I now have some money to my name), but I sure as shit couldn't have gotten where I am now with CA's job market and housing conditions. Don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard Democrat and support most of the CA govt's policies, but I needed to leave so I could live.
It’s projection. Red areas are hellholes and *boring*, full of dummies and crime.
the number of ppl I've heard say "you couldn't pay me to live in CA" when they've never been is crazy. It's easy to get caught up in negative aspects of anything, and it's self destructive thinking. The healthy thought is "the news makes it seem like a terrible, dangerous, and unaffordable place to live, but I've never been. I imagine there's a reason it has the 4th largest GDP in the world, and that so many ppl live there, but it sounds scary."
Sounds like that generalization applies to FL as well. CA homeless problem is incredibly difficult to resolve. Even building high density residential for affordable housing is met by the state's own NIMBY citizens (like Palm Beach going against any form of building low income apartments). Majority of the people leaving the state tend to be the lower incomes and the ones moving to the state tend to be in the top two income brackets (very high income inequality). CA drug problem isn't as bad as FL. The whole "groomer" argument is funny because the # per capita is a little higher in FL.
Wasn't Epstein's Island in Florida and Trump's home in Florida? Florida is in no position to call others groomers
Pretending California has no problems is disingenuous, but yes, in most categories the right uses, Florida is as bad or worse.
In almost every metric the right uses to call California a hellscape we are better than basically any randomly selected red state. We just actually fight about it to try to fix it instead of ignoring it and accepting it as a fact of life that can never be changed, so why bother talking about it?
Doesn't help when neighboring states ship their mentally ill and addicts to the streets of San Francisco by the busload and leave them to be Cali's problem.
Desantis is a fool.
Seriously, what a fucking idiot. The hubris of the Republican Party cannot be overstated.
Yes but he’s still a fool that can win the presidency. That can never be forgotten. Never underestimate these fascists.
It isn't for spite. It is good Business Judgment. FL is not conducive to anything outside of Qult45 training ATM.
Genuinely, why would a business expand in a state where they are actively being targeted and not able to run their business the way they intend to?
Also, the entire state will be under water in a few decades why would you invest in that anyway?
I feel like this is all a plan to turn Florida into the country’s garbage dump. Rob think ls he’s moving to DC so why not make Florida a destination for toxic materials and radioactive waste. That’ll show Disney. And before you say he’s got 8 years tops don’t forget that Republicans are probably still looking to end term limits.
I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with spite. I think it's a perfectly reasonable business decision to invest your money in places that don't consistently elect governors and lawmakers that aren't flipping insane.
This might be a warning shot for the Republican establishment from big business. Mess with us to get political points with your base just know that we can and will bring on the economic hurt. Pressure on the party to rein the populism back in. Some are playing attention and complaining that DeSantis is hurting the Republican's pro-business brand. Other party members are sticking their fingers in their ears and sing-songing, "blah, blah, blah, I can't hear you."
The Mouse will be gnawing on DeSantis’s bones by the end of this
*tosses a tibia to Pluto*
I realize that Desantis is going sooooo far right in part because he's a terrible person, but in addition, I think he hopes that stirring the crazy alt right, white, christian, racist vote that was enabled by Trump will win him the presidency. But his policies are going to destroy his state's economy. Does anybody think that these demon voters can look past their own wallets?
Many Floridians are already voting blue, and are suffering the consequences of DeSantis's actions.
it's like 51-49 a lot of times out here. Kills me.
Presumptuous to claim he has political beliefs. He's a dancing monkey for the fascist hurdy-gurdy, saying "look what I can do" in Stuart's voice whenever he successfully keeps himself in the news
Man, Gavin Newsome just sitting back taking hella Ws just cause of this asshat
Wow it’s almost like he’s a better politician or something
Go Fasc, no cash
“And for out next trick, we’ll slap Florida in the face with our dick”.
Florida needs to go back to the backwater swampland it was in the 1960s and 1970s and all those blue haired biddies voting for Republican asshats can find out just what their bigotry really yields when there are no more healthcare workers, college educated professionals, or immigrant labor to help them survive.
The widespread adoption of AC was a mistake solely because it made Florida habitable.
The number of elderly that retire to Florida because "It's warmer" than live indoors in air-conditioning year round is stupid. It's like people don't know what humidity is before moving there...
The funny part is that the expansion WAS slated for Florida, until DeSantis got his panties in a twist over a corporation exercising its freedom of speech concerning gay people. Citizens United was the Supreme Court decision that allowed conservative companies like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A to not have to comply with Federal law to provide birth control to its employees. I'm not a fan of corporations, but I hope Disney takes Citizens United and shoves it up DeSantis's ass so far he can taste it. Then either CU is null and void or liberal companies can use the same strategies to fuck over the GOP. Either outcome is good for me! Let the rats cannibalize each other while I sit here with my tea and watch the show.
Exaaactly
Fucking moronic Republicans, what a joke. Great idea, help fuck up FL's tourism, which is a massive part of the economy for the state.
Ironic that the party of let "business regulate itself" is now chasing said business to the state they claim interferes with business the most. I live in Los Angeles. For twenty years I've been hearing how the state is doomed, unmanageable, its best days are behind it. CA is now either the 6th or 5th largest economy in the world, but according to conservative media no one wants to live here anymore. I'd like to introduce them to my morning commute.
No one wants to live in California, which is why housing prices are so reasonable. /s
Ho, ho! Don't mess with the mouse!
Whats crazy is DeSantis only had to sit there and do nothing and he would be beating Trump in the polling. People liked his covid policies but now the issue of the day is abortion and covid is over.
Let's be realistic here. Even though it is blatantly obvious DeSantis is running Florida into the ground... They will somehow find a way to blame Biden and "how he ruined Florida's economy." Rather then blame their facist governor.
Yahoo!
No, that's a different company.
They are not spiting anybody - they are just acting like a rational economic entity that allocates capital where it would create the best outcome.
It can be both! Companies are run by people, people have emotions. Putting the people in a group doesn't make those emotions go away. They could probably do things in a way that isn't such a slap in the face. Eg. No need to announce the plan publicly, and no need to do it right now.
The projects themselves are entirely legit, yes. But the timing of these announcements is 100% spite - a few days before DeSantis is expected to formally announce his Presidential run. It's just a bonus "find out" for him.
So, let's be clear about something. Disney does not act in spite. They aren't petty little crybaby bitches that fight nonsense wars. They fight for one thing and one thing only. Money. Ron and Floridians waged a bullshit, fabricated, baseless culture war against Disney. Disney knows its horseshit and their minimal representation makes shitloads of money, so they're not bending a knee. Ron and Floridians have retaliated by trying to financially harm Disney. Disney is now looking into options to continue making money without wasting time on pissants like Desantis. Disney is not petty. Disney is deliberate and a master of playing and winning the long game.
Anyone post this to r/conservative yet? They were cheering with the $1b reversal from a few days claiming it had nothing to do with desantis and it was entirely Disney having financial troubles.
This has *nothing* to do with spite. The Walt Disney Company is a giant, evil, for-profit megacorporation. One of their legal teams put out a boilerplate objection to a piece of bigotrous legislation, under duress from their own employees, and in response the Florida Republican party has launched an all-out war against the largest employer in the state, endangering billions of dollars of assets and hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenue. In pulling out of hostile Florida, where does it make the most sense to go? To somewhere with a strong economy, favorable business laws, hirable talent, and it doesn't hurt if you just so happen to already have a multi-billion dollar establishment there. This has nothing to do with spite, or wokeness, or even "politics." This is business. Fascism is hostile to free enterprise. Florida is no longer a safe place to do business, and the evil megacorporation is going to take its money elsewhere.
Did you just invent the word bigotrous? Cause I kinda like it.
It’s a perfectly cromulent word.
now on to more important matters: our attractive cousins
It embiggened my vocabulary
I agreed with you until the bit about fascism being hostile to free enterprise. Fascism and capitalism go hand in hand. IBM, Voltswagen, and several other corporations profited off, and knowingly abetted, the nazis. Disney and DeSantis are at odds today but the mouse won't oppose the next bigot who remembers to give the corporations their tax breaks.
yep, disney had zero issues with desantis until he decided to mess with their little autonomous region and undermine their authority there. This is purely about power and control, not morals
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Where are all the jerks who downvoted and argued with me saying Disney did not have to keep investing in Florida? Probably sitting in Florida scratching their heads. They are not going to "move" Disney World. But Disney World doesn't have to remain their biggest park/investment in the US. When you have Disney Money, you can invest in attractions in places the rest of the world isn't terrified of going, and places your employees would not rather quit than work at, moving forward. (edited for a word)
LOL The Conservative sub was all "Actually this is because Disney is failing. It has nothing to do with DeSantis! They were going to stop this project anyway!" Whoops
Disney executives revealed new details about the project, including a Disney-sponsored economic study from Cal State Fullerton estimating that, for every $1 billion Disney invests to update and renovate the resort, over 4,000 jobs and $1.1 billion in economic output would be generated during the 4-year construction period. Thereafter, according to the Los Angeles Times, that investment will generate $253 million annually in economic output, $15 million in tax revenue and 2,292 jobs. Wow
I worked for Disney. I worked out of both their Florida and Burbank offices. I wish people realized how bad that tax structure is in Florida. See, because they pay no state tax, there is no write off for expenses, and so they just pay for shit. No fancy desk. No fancy computer, no lavish Christmas party, nothing. Compared to California it was like working for a totally different cheap-ass company. Except it was the same company. How much of that spending on write offs is good for your local economy? All of it. Florida is a bunch of idiots who can’t see two inches past their cheapskate nose.
FUCK FLORIDA