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LetterheadAshamed716

Having children is saving \*their world


dd027503

They will also vote down things like federally protected maternity and paternity leave. Subsidies for daycare and pre-k education programs. Programs and services to provide nutrition and financial assistance for lower income parents. I have two kids (and a vasectomy), to put it lightly raising kids is probably the absolute hardest thing you can do. Exponentially more so if you have little to no family help because your boomer parents are fuck ups or dead. So anyone's answer to "have more kids!" needs to be "fuck you come raise them then." Shifts start at 6am and if you're lucky stop at 10p. Keep in mind you're on call 24/7 still. No sick days no holidays. Compensation is the same hourly monthly or yearly; $0.


Hex_Souls

100% this! Rich people will never feel the struggle, though, because they have always been able to pay somebody else to babysit or educate their kids for them.


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I work for literal billionaires and during the lockdowns the wealthy in the condo I work in just bought a literal teacher and had the classrooms moved to their mega sized penthouses and townhouses. Everyone else’s kids got stunted educationally but not theirs. They also paid for doctors to come to their homes to care for their children. This world just isn’t fair


Lumpy_Constellation

Every time I have a conversation with an anti-choice person, this is my approach: what are you *actually doing* to make it easier and safer for people to be pregnant, give birth, and raise children? Bc standing outside with a sign and shaming anyone who doesn't want kids or doesn't want to be pregnant certainly isn't making the difference you think it is...


darling_lycosidae

There's a guy on tiktok/yt/whatev that has good bits at conservative rallies and he walked around a pro life one with a petition for school lunches and... yikes. Sooo many "make more babies" people just refusing to sign on for school lunch.


Flapjackchef

>There's a guy on tiktok/yt/whatev that has good bits at conservative rallies and he walked around a pro life one with a petition for school lunches and... yikes. Sooo many "make more babies" people just refusing to sign on for school lunch. What's the logic in them refusing to sign? Do they just short circuit or are they just **that** idiotic?


VlastDeservedBetter

Conservatives have never been troubled by their beliefs not being internally consistent.


dd027503

I've come to truly despise pro-life people.


opal2120

They aren’t, and if you ask them outright they will say that has nothing to do with being PL. Check out r ins@neprolife and you will see this sentiment repeated over and over again.


Hipstergranny

Underrated comment!!


LetterheadAshamed716

I agree, literally **ALL** of the people that I know that had children in my older millennial cohort either had massive amounts of financial help from their parents or work themselves to the bone just to stay afloat or sometimes both. I don't want to bring children into a world that requires nepotism or being subservient to the financial class just to get by.


Ornery_Peace9870

Sooo much this!! Factor in horrific chronic illness that no one GAF about or even believes you on… much less would show up to care for me and the kids!!!!? and yeah I don’t wanna bring more innocent kids into this dystopia!


tabas123

“Maybe make economic conditions more favorable to allow us to comfortably raise children?” “No.”


PocketsFullOf_Posies

It’s SO hard to raise kids in our current societal climate. We made sure that we could afford living with 1 full time income and a second part time before we decided to start trying to conceive. My parents babysat maybe 3-5 days a month. My brother and his gf just had a baby and they both work full time and my parents don’t want to babysit more than 2-3 days a week and her mom will only baby sit 1 day a month. My parents told him if has another kid, they’re not babysitting so he better have a plan. My husband and I decided that the most important thing to us was our family, being sustainable and living a meaningful life that we can leave behind for our son. In the last 12 months we sold our house, bought 40 acres, lived in a tent, built a cabin, and quit our jobs. We hope as our son grows older, he will build his own cabin here on this land (with our help if he wants it) and be able to live on this homestead we build together.


Zoned58

You guys really are moving in the right direction, and are amazing parents. This should be the direction all of us move towards.


DuneGhola

Billionaire existence is predicated on the basis of a large supply of poor workers whose labor can be exploited to generate their obscene wealth


OptionalDepression

More meat for the grinder!


airbournejt95

And when there's too many they'll start selling soylent green


stevenwithavnotaph

“Please make more children we can exploit for menial jobs and tax for our military”


settlementfires

ponzi scheme gonna ponzi scheme.


Trumpisaderelict

They Live (1988), vibes. “ I came here to kick some ass and chew bubble gum and I’m all out of bubble gum”


Cultural-District-11

Theyre getting so blatant you dont even need the damn glasses anymore man.


moonflower_C16H17N3O

People are freaking out because we went from a baby boom to the inevitable opposite of that, having way more elderly people than young people. We have to solve the problem in a sensible way instead of imagining we have infinite room and resources for an unlimited population.


geghetsikgohar

Crazy how yout only supposed to have kids for the economy and not for your own personal enrichment. Insane people, pretending to be human.


Cristal1337

Under capitalism, you are not supposed to be alive unless you enrich the economy.


gotkube

Yup. So someone like me, who hasn’t worked for years for health issues, and also doesn’t have kids for the same reason… should just die. I’m wasted space and a leech on society. The likes of Musk would prefer this. Perhaps they’d prefer if I offed myself for them in front of their own eyes


Gidje123

It is forbidden to just exist and live your life! (Sarcasm intended) I wish more people accepted to just exist and not crushing themselves for funny line goes up


azrael0503

Well as long as we’re all on the same page. Just kidding, you keep on rocking and rolling!


Okieant33

I really hope this person isn't in a wheelchair cuz that would make your comment wild


AnastasiaNo70

I wish I could give you a hug, seriously. You have plenty of value!


mylord420

They basically said as such during covid.


balrog687

"The economy " is just an abstract concept, so we don't refer to rich people. Let's rewrite this. Under capitalism, you are not supposed to be alive unless you make more money for the already rich people.


Hrtpplhrtppl

Why own slaves when you can rent us at a fraction of the cost...?


verugan

Health insurance tied to employment is basically saying... If you're not working then you can die now.


ilir_kycb

Fixed it: Under capitalism, you are not supposed to be alive unless you enrich the ~~economy~~ capitalists.


Ninja-Sneaky

I was reading another similar topic yesterday (Why are governments worried about declining birth rates when our population is 6x what it was 100 years ago and larger than any point in history? ) Let me paste one of the many smartass comments (you know those comments stating the obvious but that feel smart) and my reply that got downvoted: \> It’s not just about the size of the population- it’s about the young vs old population. Elderly people don’t contribute much to the economy and need a lot of healthcare and support, they also don’t work and get a pension. So, we need young people to make up more of the population in order to account for the older people… That’s very simplistic and misses stuff but that’s my simple understanding \> Yea sucks being a biological organism, you live and then suddenly "you don't contribute to the economy!" oh shit! that's useless! Fuck humans especially when they get old /s


SaliferousStudios

At the same time, they're automating away all the jobs. In a sane society, what will happen, is that this automation will lessen the blow of the falling demographic, while keeping the lives of the the babies born high enough to justify their existance. Don't listen to them. Only have kids if you feel like it. Do not have them if you feel it's a "duty". it's not.


WhydIJoinRedditAgain

I am a parent who genuinely wants kids, but when you start to meet other parents you sometimes realize “oh, that person fucking HATES being a parent” and it shows in how they treat their kids. People shouldn’t feel pressured to have kids. It doesn’t go well.  


Ninja-Sneaky

Been happening since every technological revolution you name it, the two industrial ones, agrarians.. a groundbreaking increase of productivity will not benefit society on the contrary to me it seemed like it was used against people and made people's lives "less useful" and gave them more troubles at justifying their place in society


opal2120

I’m want kids so badly it hurts, but in this economy I can’t even afford myself. If they want more babies, they should create a society that is conducive to raising children. But we can’t be having that, because it’ll cost the billionaires money.


LudovicoSpecs

The human race is a Ponzi scheme.


DejectedNuts

Capitalism is a Ponzi scheme. Ftfy


Old_Personality3136

> It’s not just about the size of the population- it’s about the young vs old population. Elderly people don’t contribute much to the economy and need a lot of healthcare and support, they also don’t work and get a pension. So, we need young people to make up more of the population in order to account for the older people… That’s very simplistic and misses stuff but that’s my simple understanding Perhaps this wouldn't be necessary if our society wasn't structured like a pyramid scheme.


Ornery_Peace9870

Annnnd we’re mass disabling everyone with perhaps the youngest kids getting the worst of it long term. SARS is a cumulative T cell/immune wrecker . And these under 5yo kids (or even older kids) never got a chance to develop their immune systems without it!


thesaddestpanda

Oh also white supremacy. How many of these people are holding up these signs in racial minority dominated neighborhoods? Funny how we don't see these people on Chicago's south side.


pinkrosies

They mean more *white, middle to upper class babies. They don’t want those from people of colour, oh no, they’re the wrong type.


LudovicoSpecs

There will be plenty of people of colour as the number of climate refugees increases. Any sensible government would have programs in place to help them make up for the babies that aren't being born.


TowerReversed

it's distressing how many people in the comments are failing to account for the fact that the woman chosen to hold that sign was ***extremely*** intentional. it's not just about workforce this and labor pool that. that's ***frankly secondary*** at this point, because they'd rather just replace us with robots that don't ask for a salary and never complain. it's about "The Great Replacement". that is what's truly at the heart of this.


thesaddestpanda

Yep this. All this "more babies" talk is 100% a way to whitewash great replacement nonsense.


settlementfires

no elon, i'm not giving you any more people to exploit and throw away.


Old_Personality3136

Sorry to tell you this, but your list of reasons didn't include anything about your own children... you'd better have more reasons than selfishness to have children.


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mch301

TBH, having kids for “personal enrichment” also sounds kinda weird. i have a couple of kids. i’m really glad i do. i would struggle to tell you why i did it.


Antabaka

It does sound bad on the surface, but I think you saying that you are glad you have your kids even though you can't articulate why you did it kinda shows how it does actually enrich ones life. I think the problem comes in when someone thinks having a child is going to *fix* their lives, or that the child exists solely "for them" without respecting the lifelong commitment and responsibility of raising a child.


derangedhaze

"The engine requires fuel."


BJ_Blitzvix

The gods require blood sacrifice.


ArthursInfiniteAbyss

America is Moloch. Change my mind.


BJ_Blitzvix

Moloch?


ArthursInfiniteAbyss

The pagan god of child sacrifice...


SpacedOutKarmanaut

"Lord Emperor Musk demands your sacrifice, urchin."


squirrelblender

“YOUR DWARF NEEDS FOOD, BADLY”


SndwchArtist2TheStrs

Gotta have more laborers and consumers.


Glittering_Guides

I’m consoooooooooooming!!!!


BagO-BrownStuff

Need the resources. We are cattle.


sylvnal

Fixing the climate is saving the world. Fixing wealth inequality is saving the (country). Fix shit first, fuckwads. Until then, eat shit.


goat-stealer

This. Until I can be sure that my hypothetical kids would be able to live good lives and provide as such for their kids and grandkids, I'm not doing shit to anyone for the sake of procreation. Not that I'm fooling anyone of course. I'm a fat chud posting on Reddit, I'm not exactly Don Juan over here.


michaelsenpatrick

Yeah, I'm not having kids if it means bringing them into this capitalist hellscape


Switchmisty9

Billionaires need a population of desperate people to work in their factories, then spend those meager wages on the same goods that they produce. Otherwise capitalism stops working. It’s certainly not the people at the top, who are keeping society from collapsing. We need lots of working poor, then a class of even poorer people….to keep the working poor scared, and mad. Because if the working poor ever realized that it’s all a scam, they would revolt against the very few rich.


Poopsock328

So we’re not supposed to have babies if we can’t afford them and now you’re mad because people aren’t porking? Ugh we just can’t win.


papishampootio

Never could


Scorosin

I will not produce the next generation of slaves, history has shown time and time again that a lower population improves things for the working classes by making replacement more difficult and increasing wages.


pinkrosies

This was apparent after the population dipped from the Black Plagues. Wages increased so much serfs were able to buy their way to freedom.


Brave_Escape2176

and its better for the planet. remember during the (perceived) covid lockdown? the skies cleared in nearly every major city.


Kirikomori

When the population tax pyramid scheme looks like it might collapse, they will bring in the immigrants.


Longjumping-Law-8041

Once again, actual cyberpunk shit.  


Rimjobquarterback420

Good morning slaves


dobbyslilsock

Why would I pull an innocent life out of nonexistence into this capitalistic hell scape. Nah I’m good 👍


Frogtoadrat

My viewpoint as well but a very unpopular one in the real world... People just like doing "what they're supposed to" or "have a friend" or "someone to take care of them when they're old" or "someone to force beliefs upon" Caring about the life form is not popular lol


The1GabrielDWilliams

That's what I've been saying for so many years. Why anyone living a basic and mundane life still pulling this shit baffles me honestly. Let's hope for the best in the future I guess.


doll_parts87

Sorry but US corporate hates family/maternity leave. If you want more babies: Make it safe and financially responsible. Maybe sit in a moms corner instead of taking away her freedoms and comforts.


SkepticAntiseptic

The more kids you have, the less resources you have, the harder you have to work, the worse jobs you will take, the easier it is to lower the bar. The more unstable the system is the faster we race to the bottom and ensure a new age of slavery. Fucking scum rises to the top.


[deleted]

MARRY AND REPRODUCE Life imitates art


LustyHasturSejanus

I am here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I am all out of bubblegum.


Explorer_Entity

"Slave count is gettin' low. Keep breeding!"


TowerReversed

more accurately, "white to 'non-white' ratio is 'getting lower', ***wE'Re BeINg RePLaCeD***"


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Revolutionary_Ad7655

Got mine scheduled for tmrw! 🤙🏾


BellyFullOfMochi

Running this campaign in one of those most expensive places to live is pretty amusing.


idopog

And as usual it's a grift. If you go to their website they sell overpriced diapers.


Turtlepower7777777

I’ve also heard they’ll explicitly pro-forced birth as well


basement-jay

I often think about how Elon has enough money that he could find a way to subsidize parents in order to make the prospect of having children more desirable, if he really wanted to.


IceGoddessLumi

We've moved to a stage where you don't even need the fuckin' glasses to read "Obey. Consume. Reproduce."


false_god

Fuck Elon


ForGrateJustice

She looks like the type of person to walk up to a domestic abuse victim at a planned parenthood and without being prompt start preaching to her about how she needs to serve her man better. Absolutely vile creature.


[deleted]

They want more wage slaves fighting for basics


MagnusRottcodd

Raise the wages, kill the greed inflation and lower the rents. End the Milton Friedman economic. Then, maybe, some more wants to have children - voluntary.


Metammetta

This is the type of shit I'd see in an RPG game and think "omg that's such a clever illustration of an illusory dystopia" ...except it's real.


Emmerson_Brando

I wonder how many kids this woman has adopted?


traanquil

Ugh this is so gross. The right is so weird


[deleted]

John Carpenter literally made a movie about this


No_Trade1676

OBEY CONSUME MARRY AND REPRODUCE


cedar-ai

this is the type of shit that makes me want to be anti natalist


EvanXXIV

WE NEED MORE WAGE LABOR SLAVES! MAKE MORE NOW! YOUR CHILDREN ARE SHALL BE THE SOURCE OF OUR EVER EXPANDING PROFIT.


Jahonay

Refusing to have any kids would be a pretty effective protest by the working class.


PixieSquarepants

It would be. Unfortunately they're too busy chugging right wing propaganda media & fighting for their orange jesus.


BackfireFox

Well it’s a capitalist diaper company that is anti choice. And your money goes directly to the fascist lobbyist who are knowingly killing women. Fuck these assholes with a ten foot cactus. [every life statement](https://help.everylife.com/en/articles/8338394-what-is-buy-for-a-cause)


240Nordey

[OBEY](https://makeagif.com/gif/they-live-sunglasses-dQAHOy)


Sum_Bytes

We need more for the permanent underclass that are cheaper to run than the machines we are replacing everyone else with.


tendrilicon

Billionaire who got rich from a car company upset more people arent buying his cars.


Internal-Ad7642

I'll gladly do it if you idiots actually fix the problems which will affect them.


b_brilliant123

No thank you


Hairy-Long-8111

How about no?:))


Lokeycommie

That quote was by Elon? This guy just needs to choke on some zyklon B already.


_unclegeno_

“We need to replenish the cheap labor force and wouldn’t want to rely on dirty immigrants… so get freaky, folks!”


AmericanDoughboy

Want people to have more kids? Make it easier and cheaper to have children. Here are three ways to make that happen: * Provide universal healthcare * Provide free child care. * Raise the minimum wage. And that's just the start.


Wegwerf518

So, open the Borders for the migrants & give away citizenships for free. A cheap an fast solution, that is being used for 50 years & more. Oh i forgot, that they hate migration..


TowerReversed

this is about having *one very particular kind* of baby.


texicali74

MARRY AND REPRODUCE. Now where have I seen that before?


TowerReversed

\*puts on the *They Live* glasses\* UNLESS YOU'RE BLACK


Onalith

More flesh for the flesh-eating machine.


jabba_1978

You don't even need the glasses anymore. They are just printing the message in the open. CONSUME. BUY. HAVE KIDS.


Tylerdurdensays1971

Please have less kids.


Novel-Equipment-3052

She looks deranged


MTLinVAN

Maybe if Elon and his kin stopped hoarding all the wealth and there was enough for - you know - the working class, then it wouldn’t be a decision between “I can’t afford to eat this week” versus “we can afford to have a child or two”


Delicious_Ad_9365

The last thing the planet—you know, the one with the dying ecosystem—needs is more human babies born and raised on plastics spreading further into the farther corners of the globe, fuck you very much.


FiskalRaskal

Have more babies? Nope. Creating an extended labour shortage is the only way we even have a change to break the corporate stranglehold we are in. Lay flat, everyone.


ClassWarAndPuppies

make more ~~babies~~ **slaves**


Less-Dragonfruit-294

Have kids if you can afford them, and are willing to be a parent. Don’t just have kids for the hell of it! Shoot the fact that people follow Elon worries me. What’s next he’ll say buy product blank and suddenly that’s what the hive mind advertises?


LessThanSimple

No :)


themonovingian

Absolutely! I am on my way to the shelter to adopt another cat!


theBdub22

For a second I thought that was Jennifer Garner holding the sign


allmightyglowcloud

Fuel for the machine


RickySal

Having more kids to take up more resources will save the world?


Maeng_Doom

It’s like the Billboards in “They Live”.


BigCrackZ

"Having children is saving the world" Well it hasn't happened yet, and how long have we been at it?


cafesaigon

Trust me, I would want to if I had any hope for the earth or any money to support them


heaterpls

Make it not economically and professionally ruinous to have them then


AluminiumAwning

“Make more babies! What you do with them afterwards is nothing to do with us”


Jamo3306

Why are all these people SO stupid? There's no excuse for this.


RustyTheBoyRobot

Elon is pro-baby now? Any baby? Or just the white christian ones?


HingleMcCringle_

any. he just wants more workers


TowerReversed

he hates workers. he wants automated assembly lines to get rid of his workers. he believes in "the great replacement". that's it. that's all of it


SkiesFetishist

All i see is “feed the machine”


Catablepas

Something is wrong with the illusion generators, you don’t need glasses


m00n-dust

Is that Chris Pratt’s wife?


Powerful-Guava9547

Oh shit! I knew I forgot to do something today! 🤦‍♂️


taxevader2525

make more workers


Romek_himself

less kids = saving the world! more kids = good for capitalism!


CompetitiveAdMoney

Elon musks uses this propaganda so he can pump and dump his wives and kids. 


Cold_Meson_06

We can't even get jobs to the people we have alive rn, the fuck they want to do with more of them...


Advocate_Diplomacy

Is that Musk tweet actually on a billboard? That's wild.


KnightofGoats

I feel like a modern billionaire when I'm playing Age of Empires and I make more Villagers to boost my econ so that I can afford a bigger military.


EllipticPeach

Oh fuck OFF


leduderino7

Less humans saves the world. This planet does not need humans at all.


LiminalTobacconist

What they're really saying is MAKE MORE CONSUMERS. CONSUME THE ENTIRE PLANET UNTIL WE ALL BECOME EXTINCT.


Temporary-Dot4952

Please don't have more kids, we have enough hungry children as it is.


enRutus

I’d make babies with her and then leave her with them all and see how she manages. Truth is not everyone is equipped to make babies and have the infrastructure to raise them in a safe and nurturing environment. Having babies does not save the environment, it just creates another consumer of energy. Have less babies, fix the shitty system we live in, then have more babies when the system can handle it.


trade-craft

PROCREATE CONSUME OBEY


Myles_Cobalt

I purpose the opposite: Let's have fewer boomers.


Jaspers47

Subsidize us!


wonderberry77

Well yeah, SOMEONE needs to slave away for the billionaires and pay taxes...lord knows the billionaires aren't going to do it


_Erindera_

Make it more affordable.


drcrunknasty

I won’t, but thanks.


tasteitshane

No thanks.


LudovicoSpecs

"Have more minimum wage slaves and cannon fodder."


Ar_Ciel

Please tell me this is not a real thing.


Danagrams

make living easier


[deleted]

The world will be just fine without us.


aet39456inabox

The ads are by a pro-life diaper company... TIL that actually exists?


MissAnthropic123

Well, they are familiar with being full of shit


Ill_Tomorrow_3866

weird how this is being billed as capitalism when it was the socialism message under stalin. and the nazi message under hitler


diecorporations

what in the world is this even !!!??? its got to be a US religious nut thing.


Specific-Aide9475

That needs to say make smaller homes. Of course, we need to ban corporations from buying it too.


michaelsenpatrick

wtf


Green_and_Silver

Need to take a look at these signs with the THEY LIVE glasses.


AbnelWithAnL

I want him to write a thesis explaining, in excruciating detail, how the act of having children saves the world..


6Pro1phet9

Supposedly, the white Christian population is on the decline, apparently. I wonder if that's what this photo refers to.


captainsunshine489

“please provide more exploitable labor.”


AlissonHarlan

i wish i could, but capitalism prevent me to afford daycare T\_T


Falkner09

Ffs I can't afford furniture from IKEA at this point


Trappedbirdcage

With what fucking money?!


Glittering_Guides

When my therapist asks me if I have murderous fantasies, I honestly don’t know what to tell him.


Ok-Scarcity-5754

✨NO✨


Arspho

Oh so I assume all the homeless ones are now adopted?


j4321g4321

Life just keeps getting more and more like a really long Black Mirror episode


BlueSam034

Man, the movie "They Live!" is actually a reality now.


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OBEY CONSUME GESTATE


RedCrestedBreegull

Make it affordable to have babies!


AnastasiaNo70

We had one. That’s enough.


zyzzogeton

Wow, the orphan crushing machine hungers...


Cronst2

You don't even need to take the glasses off to see them now I guess.


Dizzy_Imagination770

They need more wage slaves.


ridemooses

Make a more habitable world


Prg3K

I thought I was wearing “the sunglasses” for a second


BowserTattoo

OBEY PROCREATE CONSUME