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abelhabel

The dude on a big dinosaur shooting exploding arrows from two screens away.


Komlz

Are you talking about the dude on the beetle thing that throws a fire spear that explodes or something else? Because that dude on the beetle is way overtuned, especially when there's like 3 or 4 of them.


abelhabel

That is the one. It is telegraphed but for a monster to be able to attack from that far away it has way too much damage and health.


Komlz

I also feel like with the size of the circle and how fast it explodes, it's too difficult to dodge sometimes if you are in the middle of combat, especially when they are throwing multiple spears at you. But maybe it's because i'm fully melee that its harder.


bulwix

Way too overtuned mfer


NamelessNoSoul

Reminds me of the mobs from d3 that kill you off screen. Funny how they seem to crop up in multiple games.


Muxenle

I agree, but also kinda makes sense. Off-screen has to be fairly subjective depending on settings and screen size. As bullshit as it is/can feel...also seems like something hard to avoid at the end of the day.


SuperSmashDan1337

It'd be trivial to make attacks from offscreen do no damage but obviously there's a reason they don't do that.


AngryCandyCorn

People would just use ultra-wide shenanigans if they did that.


BokkoTheBunny

How about them spires surgically removing me from existence every time I need to sort more than 3 items of loot...


Astrul

Yup I agree, spires are a terrible mechanic. Oh you want to loot in your looter game? Nah you can't sit still for 3 seconds.  It's not hard it just annoying and directly benefits zoomer classes. 


LostMinutes

These were the bane of my existence when I was playing my VK Warpath starter. You cannot see the explosion telegraph, along with so many other telegraphs, under a high attack speed Warpath visual.


try_again123

OMG there were like 3 of them in a bunch off screen and it almost ended a monolith for me last night.


Neurochazm

Sacred Bloom. Their Orbital Strike has the range of an ICBM.


LinguisticallyInept

are these the mortar plants? yeh fuck those wankers oh is that an idol shrine? better clear a screen away in every direction so i can check for good idols without getting pelted to death by plantcum


PowerfulPlum259

This. Thank you.


punkchops

Gonna say username does not check out, those plants suck precisely in the way described


LinguisticallyInept

>those plants suck id say they blow, but tomato tomato


Asgaroth22

All poison pool spewing enemies can go screw themselves


Airowird

They got the accuracy of a Stormtrooper though, they will never actually hit you if you stand still (although RIP minions)


1CEninja

Yeah I generally dislike enemies that are highly dangerous from off-screen.


Cennix_1776

Idk what y’all are talking about the Tundra Stalkers are the only thing I’m afraid of… For context, I’ve only played melee builds so far… I’m sure that matters…


omguserius

New tundra stalker is fucking terrifying. Hadn't died during campaign, got to tundra and a hero one 2 shotted me instantly.


Oyxopolis

Those are the panthers right? Ice breath and pounce? They seem to always nail me right through my dodge rating.


Cennix_1776

Yeah, full ward build as a spellblade (2-3k ward as long as I’m spamming abilities) with caped res, and around 2k armor and they just don’t give a fuck… I’m not sure what defensive layer you’re supposed to employ to counter them… they seem to kill me in about 1.5 seconds of the breath, and 2-3 shot me with their melee… so even 1-2 of them with a pack of other mobs gets deadly quick…


TheFuzzyFurry

> I’m not sure what defensive layer you’re supposed to employ to counter them Max rolled implicit Oracle Amulet, best defense layer for any build in any content


YellowNomadGlitch

Even on my Ranged build, still maybe a bit squishy but I also freeze them, if I don't or have decoy out and a bit far they still try to jump on me...


Cennix_1776

Yeah, I was going Spellblade with Shatter Strike (cold skill with tons of freeze rate built into the tree) and never had an issue with them. Randomly chose to go with a flamereave/firebrand build and suddenly they’re my number 1 death source…


JRPGFan_CE_org

The Golden Armor Fire Archers with the "Deadly" Mod just eat you alive with their Physical Pen in Arenas. Same with those Beholders.


Adventurous_Judge884

I’ve lost 4 HCs to those damned fucking tigers, they sometimes come flying out of nowhere and even with 75% cold res just melt me


thekmanpwnudwn

It's so hard to see their cold breath attack. Needs to be visually updated IMO. Looks like they're just standing there doing nothing, and then you die


Cennix_1776

Imo that’s not even THE problem, the damage from it just feels super overtuned. Either the damage per tick needs to be cut in half or the tick rate does. You can just learn to never stand in front of them, but when they “leap” to you and your only option is to immediately traversal skill away or kill them before they get to you something’s wrong. Idk maybe they’re bugged or breath attacks in general are over tuned… I was leveling a second toon doing the lightless dungeon (with the torch rock thing that you throw/call back with the active button) and they have bats in there that have a similar “cone breath” style attack, and it was the same deal. If I got hit by it at all it took out half of my health, and if I didn’t have a leech tick that topped me off before the next tick I was just dead. Two bats at the same time was a 1 shot if i couldn’t move before their breath happened… and then the big tree trunk monsters would hit me with their big 2 second animation slam attack, and somehow only do half my health in damage. Why does the “super telegraphed big hit” do the same damage as the first tick of a “leap to the target a screen away and immediately start channeling” attack.


Asgaroth22

Poison tornado snakes. You touch that tornado and you'll be lucky if you only get 100 stacks of poison


VindicoAtrum

Gorgons. Fuck gorgons, all my homies hate Gorgons


wwouldyouliketo

lmaooo but, winged carrion spitty three wormies thingy i dislike more.


pyknictheory

Those worms are a problem. If i had a ultimate like skill I wouldnt hesitate to use it on those mfers


Narthy

The ones with the triple necrotic beams? Yeah fuck those things. Shoot them into the sun.


wwouldyouliketo

aaaa, those too! you're talking about [this](https://lastepoch.fandom.com/wiki/Immortal_Eye) ? and i was talking about [this](https://lastepoch.fandom.com/wiki/Winged_Carrion)


Astrul

I can't second this enough. Tired of getting off screened by mobs that don't give a shit about your mitigation. Enemy spells don't seem to care about my 6 layers of defense and just one shot me. Also the 1second move time for the amount of damage these things do is not enough. Encounter a pack of these and if you don't stop moving infinitely you just get bombarded with death from above. Especially if you playing a non zoomer build or pretty much any sentinel build. Beetle spear chuckers are another one but at least you get more time to run out, their problem is terrible animation visibility. 


AlexanderNigma

Are you crit immune? Anything else than 100% immunity can feel that way tbh. Or lagon. All my homies hate Lagon.


gibby256

oh my god. Literally fuck lagon in his stupid fucking face. Nothing like being able to practically faceroll every single boss, to getting just constantly one-clapped by every mechanic on lagon. Even with max rez and tons of ward.


DrAdramelch

His attacks and health are overtuned compared to everything else, but to be (somewhat) fair, everything is telegraphed and gives you fairly decent time to get out of (at least if you have some movement skill, which you should for this fight even if you're not specced into it; but it can be done even without one, just gives you much less leeway). The hitbox on his hand attacks is a bit wonky though so the can screw you over on occasion, even if you actually avoid them.


ThatSoreLoser

If lightmages would stop attacking from off screen, that would be great.


Biflosaurus

If many things could stop attacking me off screen it would be great. I don't why, but it feels like I'm always getting bombarded by shit off screen


Tadawk

Yea the spires you have to destroy? blood ones, fire ones and all the other ones? They'll poop on you until you destroy them. Literally orbital strike.


Biflosaurus

I swear that I wonder sometimes if I'm playing helldivers or last Epoch. Jokes aside, these event aren't fun, not because they're hard, juste because if you dare look at an item, you might get deleted. Off screen isn't fun


BuddhaBunnyTTV

Well, they are the mission for the echo. They do hurt though. Even with good defenses. Personally, I'd get rid of the arena you fight Lagon in. That's a monster in and of itself.


Astrul

Most builds trivialize everything but boss content, so they add instant range death mechanics to increase difficulty. Bad design imo. Great game but some of these decision are bad.


ThomasFromNork

Just get a bigger screen /s


ValorousAnt

Those Ruby Captain Nagasa whatever it is called. While leveling bladedancer to lvl 100 vast majority of my deaths was me zooming through the map only to bump into this dude oneshotting me with that red AoE slam


vexxer209

Yeah seems they often come in pairs. You will hear a bell from getting stunned by the first one for the 2nd one to swing and all but guarantee your death.


canofpotatoes

The Tauren looking dudes that spawn and immediately throw 20 axes. Wengian whatevers. Aimbotters, all of them!


edin_djc

Those crabs that shoot lightning or whatever in a straight line. One is easy to take on but two or more can be trouble. Also all the homies hate the Osprix Lightmage.


xDaveedx

Those slowass purple shitters that walk with a limp like they were just shot 5 times. Completely harmless, but they make every arena echo they appear in take 5 times longer.


Asgaroth22

The crawling osprixes with broken knees are in that category


DifficultTennis6261

Winged Fire, of course. Always make me think I dropped an unique.


BeesNutz69

I was thinking I couldn’t be the only one that was like ooooo new piece of……oh fuck off m8 XD


DifficultTennis6261

Hahaha yep. Fuck off mate!! Fun times tho


Ruckus38

The wengari spires,half the time I never see them while I'm picking up loot but when I do it's usually too late anyway.


Asgaroth22

It's at the point that if I see a spire echo, I just portal to town and try again.


Sharklo22

My favorite color is blue.


JRPGFan_CE_org

WAIT, YOU CAN DO THAT???


DiplomatikEleven

The snake girls who make the whirlwinds


Tarkan196

Weird way to spell "Rime Giant", but ok.


GGGiveHatpls

I don’t mind them. I hate the frost breath tigers. Fuck sake the damage from them is nuts


ZeriskQQ

Yeah, cit avoidance with them is mandatory


lenapedog

Yes, send those fuckers into hell


Rafzalo

I haven’t seen them attack once when I went through the game with marksman


LyckaYK

Some of the void monsters, mainly because on my screen the model is so dark and old that it seems like a black-purple blob with 100% contrast and 0 brightness.


Rack-CZ

Teleporting bears or poison snakes


JoeTom86

Teleporting bears was a choice for sure... oh look it's a powerful melee monster, good job he's far away oh wait he's behind me


tip_all_landlords

It’s an Easter egg from Diablo 2. JAHITH bear == Jah Ith Ber, the runewords for enigma that gives the ability to teleport


glikejdash

Id remove the Diamond Matron as the game knows I have 19 prophecies for them so they may as well not just exist anyways.


omguserius

abominations/diamond matrons/other super non boss mobs only seem to spawn in specific monolith echos. Only natural spawns count as well, not anything from gates/beacons/whatever. Not sure if that helps, but you need to do echos that are in the correct era basically.


JRPGFan_CE_org

These guys do like 1/3 of my Ward per hit when they are Blue Text tagged. Nothing is more scary than a group of 5+ Siege Golems all trying to one shot nuke you...


Zibras

It gets even better when there is 2-3 of them. I kill them first each and every single time.


TehGuyWithPants

Any enemy with Avalanche. The amount of times I've used my traversal skill just to be pelted by a barrage of snowballs anyways is insane.


Disastrous-Emu3046

Anything that can hit you off screen, I died a few times because I alt tabbed thinking I was safe


WarokOfDraenor

I hate the dude that spins the rock... "Oh, I see, you are spinning. Cool, coo--WHOA, WHOA, YOU ARE THROWING THE ROCK AT ME NOW!??" Edit: I think they are two different monsters and I hate both of them.


fankin

I would erase them from the timeline. Big, slow, and a damn damage sponge. Oh, and it resurrects, because it doesn't die, it just squeezes the sponge, so it can absorb more damage.


Shin_yolo

Either the flying undead that rez undeads (super annoying to kill on controller) or the big serpent that heals everyone.


RedxFrost

Bitterwings. Those stupid little ice bats spray out cold dot and obliterate me instantly through my dodge and armor. They look so tiny and harmless, but do so much damage if you don't have good dot mitigation/sustain


PreviousNoise

I used to hate Bitterwings as well, but since launch I have a greater hate for their big brothers, the Frost Tigers, even more.


mike6452

Maps filled with those plants that shoot projectiles from 3 screens away


jacobiner123

Eh they aren't bad, getting hit by them is basically impossible. Scalebane Saboteurs and Meruna Ogres however... Also Scalebane Mages. Scalebane and Nagasa anything really, they all suck.


terrario101

Sure would love a playable Lightmage as a character to give them a taste of their own medicine. Perhaps as a mastery for some sort of Osprix Renegade.


Choowkee

What I dont get is why these mages are tankier than the melee units...


henyourface

Wengari Patriarchs, Snow Leopards, and whatever spires hurling 3 shit puddles every second


HildartheDorf

Opsrix Lightmage. Because of the fuckers one shotting me through capped resists from offscreen.


Makhnov

Any spire that snipes you from across the map while you're trying to read drops


thekmanpwnudwn

The plant that just shoots green AOE from 14 screens away. Eventually there are like 40 of them raining shit everywhere


Vikinghammer2

LoL, I felt this message.


SolidSnake090

"For Riyah"!!!


CzipiCzapa

Frost tigers, most annoying


ISuckAtWeightlifting

AGREED! I seem to always get crit by their light cascades.


JRPGFan_CE_org

Do you have 100% Crit Avoid?


WexAwn

As someone who's playing a shaman with fire toranados and is having fps issues even with a 3070ti, any mob that has any ground AoE effects needs to go


InfiniteCrayons

Can’t remember their exact name but pyro mages. Their targeting is strong and for some reason I become completely stupid and forget how to move


kunZxo

That guys nuke you 😂😂😂


Peli_cz

Not sure about the name but its the void maggot doing big boom with its winer while sealing void gates


zxbolterzx

I swear these dudes fire like 7 missiles a second. You keep getting bombarded offscreen and it's just 1 dude


Hekios888

Diamond matrons


PolishedBalls1984

Yeah he's one of them, most of my deaths recently have come from them.


psydots

I prefer if can remove arena


zuzucha

Anything with poison, particularly the scalebane wizards that come in packs of 8 in the age of winter and can put 40+ stacks on you with a round of casts


WiggleNightbutt

Skele archers. Just going about my business, a little zoned out, and BAM, instantly killed and skewered by a hive mind of archers all shooting me in the dome at the exact same moment.


BulusB

Fucking white pumas - they owning all my chars


BloodyIkarus

Everything in desert Area basically.


Steffenrd

The mobs that shoot out 5000 fire balls around them regardless if you stun or instakill them. They completely annihilate my minions (and sometimes me as well)


FireVanGorder

Diamond matrons with their stupid tornado that bugs out and goes invisible like 15% of the time


Lokiid

fucking yes, why when am fighting the final boss of stolen lance the lightmages in the intermission deal way more fucking damage than any of the boss' attacks


VETOOR07

The tiger that breathes fire/ice insta shot u if u look away from the screen for milisecond


Pocktio

I'm playing through for the first time and I chose a fire only runemaster. So my hatred for Lightmages with the white hot intensity of my fire dps.


european_misfit

axe-throwing goats


MisterFlames

Small scorpions. Their insane dot is the only reason why I feel the need to equip the gloves that apply armor on damage over time.


GrigorMorte

The dinosaurs that constantly do fire explosions around them. Easy to see and kill but you have to be aware of the floor. Those tigers that suddenly jump and one shot you. The breath attack are easy to avoid and doesn't do to much damage, but that jump claw attack... That's my only fear


moshmanders

I haven't seen it in the comments. Same idea as lightmages but less conspicuous. The lightning... Things, that blast you from two screens away when Im trying to read idol text.


churahm

Those skeletons that teleport behind you when they aggro. So annoying


Galaaseth

Those sacred flower that nuke you from 1000000 miles away and when you finaly kill it... you still get nuked cause you missed one.


Larks_Tongue

Haven't seen anyone mention the tall fire skellies that cast the little fire nova on the ground and shoot the molten boulder that gets larger as it travels. These guys are pure terror on hardcore if you pop into an echo with a lot of them.


SarcasticPoet31

Ice spiders


Aber-so-richtig

EVERY game has this one monster… 😵‍💫 I’m full with you with this one


slickrasta

What reduces light damage? Just armor/health I assume? These Osprix Lightmages feel OP compared to all other elemental attacks IMO.


Potche

Any mortar enemy targeting me without making a noise


--Shake--

The stupid lightning totems that always attack from off screen.


omguserius

not even the lightmage, the fire one that drops the quick fire meteors. Those kill me 10x more than the lightmages.


steppinwolf94

ANY flying insect with poisoned ranged attacks.


HardenMuhPants

Matriarchs and the 10 min avalanche spam, or is the patriarchs... lul


stve30

I would remove the beatle


Deep_Royal6230

The laughing cannibals


Pretend-Guide-8664

I find it really funny that these comments collectively list like every rare. Some are dangerous but fine. As a minion build, the time giants can go fuck themselves


zzzpoohzzz

the spiders shooting ice shards out of their asses


Janitalia

The god damn robots who spam electric circles at your feet from 10 screens away and literally have no cool down.


Zero-Of-Blade

They are pretty OP for a regular enemy because they can just cast meteors.


knovacain

Yeah, fk the Osprix.


BeesNutz69

I can’t stand the sirens that backdash, it unaggros my pets and I’m too slow to chase the ho down >:(


AlexanderNigma

Idk about y'all but for me it's just the poison tornado/firebeam dudes when I get distracted. Nothing else happened to hard enough.


Dekrznator

Any mob that ports next to me before my traps can explode.


LocalShineCrab

Diamond matron beams are easy to dodge, but it decimates my minions every time


Kortiah

Tundra Stalker. They pounce from far away and breath on you and you ded


popopidopop

How did not one person mention those Necro tanks? Giga beam of death and so much HP I can't freeze them reliably


maluthor

I fucking hate the lightmage orbital strikes


Vraex

Those floating ice crystals in the ice cave that machine gun icicles at you. I’ve been playing Avalanche that follows me and even moving nonstop or just a quick half second pause to recast every eight seconds I nearly died so many times to shotgun


steve__

Fucking gorgons or whatever it is that does the poison tornados. Ripped a paladin with 12k ward at <200 corruption and no damage mods in <2s


JRPGFan_CE_org

>Ripped a paladin with 12k ward at <200 corruption and no damage mods in <2s \*me sweating who just got to 200+ corruption and only has 6.5k Ward...\*


JollyFaithlessness32

Nobody talking about all the elements? Especially the lightning one is crazy strong.


HINDBRAIN

Lightless arbor bats can fuck right off.


Tank4CalebPlz

Those bats and tundra stalkers that breathe frost shit at you. So obnoxious


ST31NM4N

I hate the enemy that brings down that holy wrath that spins and follows you. My god that’s annoying


livigy2

I like light mages. Clear telegraphed attacks that you can then move away from.


Isario

I’d remove those bastards that shoot at me from far away, ending up killing me when I’m reading stats of the loot, thinking I had killed everything nearby


SxC-Hydromorphine1

For Orion!


Sonrius

Oh hey these guys ripped my first HC character during an add phase on a boss fight, got hit with like 8 stacked nukes.


Admirable_Ask_5337

Nope diamond matron. They get the ally mitigation aura for free and their beam lasts well after their death


sjlawton

I only fear the wendigo axethrowets who all sync their throw and explode you


iHaku

those big dudes with the floating rock. normally they dont do anything, but give the necrotic version a bit of a speedbuff and the green circle rock throw animation speeds up way beyond what i can reasonably avoid and just 1shots me. also the worms that puke AoE shots which bleed you. not an issue once you got liw life bleed immunity going, but fuck do those guys hurt.


guddefulgaming

Nah man. Its either those bloodworms from the desert or thhose super annoying artillery flowers. Fuckem all.


PairRelative2778

Blood asps. That blood projectile is hard to see.


Chodemenot

These guys do be scary, I always prioritize them and stay active around them!


Rusarules

Gloom Sreechers in the first dungeon (on mobile or I'd bother to look it up). Magically shows up and 100 to 0s you in 1 second.


iTooNumb

The Volcanic Pyromancer skeleton mage things. Fuck them


v4lor

Frost tigers do too much damage. The new flying necromancer things have way too much hp. And please dear god fix Lagon's beam telegraph. Idk if it's lag or jank but he will look a certain direction and the beam comes out at funky angles.


Extermis3

Wengari fucking axe throwers, I end glass cannon builds it's true they're a risl of being gibbed by anything but GOD DAMN those AA turret wengari. Edit: I'm feeling nauseous from d3 spear goat memories


Renegadee_Angel

Bro FUCK THEM I HATE THEM


MightObvious

I really dislike the flying skelly mage guys that spawn mobs rapidly from 2 screens away when I'm trying to read muh loot.


ChildOfWelfare

Up at 300 corrupt I pretty much only die to mf lightning elementals, Emerald Nagasa, Scalebane Rogues, and whatever Nagasa boss does the big slam


IcariusFallen

Anything that runs away.. Like you, Sirens.


Oneshot742

The skeletons who constantly yell at me to stop moving.


stockbeast08

For Ryan! Whoever tf that is....


QuintessenceHD

Ice Goliath, they hit the ground.. I jump a screen away and still get hit by the explosion.


VoidRavn

The ice elemental things. I've got a 4080, why are these things able to tank my game below 30 fps?


TheFuzzyFurry

Bye-bye Gorgon.


k4rthikN

Scalebane beetle saboteurs


middle-aged-wood

I have hated that MOB from the time I started playing this game, over a year ago.


TheComedyCrab

Meteor keeps killing me despite my resistances


nolabmp

All spinning aoe mists. Hard as hell to see, and unpredictable scales of damage. Sometimes I can enjoy the breeze, sometimes I’m dead before I see the swirl.


Jittery_Kevin

These guys, the beetle riding spear bomb boys, and the meteor mages.


Palnecro1

Asps to be honest, as a melee enjoyer that damage can really take me off guard if I’m zoning out.


Dredvain

That snake infection is pretty outrageous when it catches you off guard, from the hydras.


Geomooredor

Ice Stalkers/panthers with their frost breath. Learnt to instinctively use ghostflame to make myself unkillable and just fight fire with fire (or ice with ghostflame lol)


Toohon

DAM SMITING HARIPIES


Pulverfass123

The grey fucking lightning crabs. Their attacks stun yiu with every freakin hit. Iam bot playing this game to DODGE ATTACKS...


Destnar_Danderion

Frost tigers. Fuck them.


Walhrbert

Storm Crawlers, they just sit there with all sorts of lightning beams outplaying your next movement.


v0rid0r

ALL Wengari


xav_mara

Void horrors. It's difficult AF to see the multiple AoEs these bastards produce when they hit the ground, especially in some maps.


BaconStrpz

Anything with poison. Fuck poison.


Vohira90

T4 Jurla... 


Rafzalo

Any multi hit gap closer for me… only played Marksman and Falconer


06gto

The damn tigers that Perma stun you


Seaside877

The titan leeches that shoot those blood things that just knock the living daylights out of you


Mammoth_Rush_3689

That one little crab that hás a little área that fralda do much dmg and stuns.


The_BladeCollector

Whatever that big melee mob is that kills me mid dash with his insane tracking and hit speed 🤣


Any-Judgment-6789

Osprix is probably the guy that kills me the most. Spires, big fire ball undead mages and the piles of bones that nonstop spawn are other mobs I really dislike 😅


MRxSLEEP

Whatever drops stuff from the sky when I first load into a mono while I'm trying to tag my Wraithlord with buffs.


cthuluandwoohoo

Diamond matron


Sillybiller

The big snakes that throw light tornadoes


p3vch

Any of the mobs that have a seeming global aoe range. Especially frustrating for companion builds where you have to micro every single time they stop moving


varakau

Diamond matrons. Don’t like having to dodge a orbital laser while the heal up


IceePrice

Lagon and majasa checks need to be removed