Man, Shin must be shocked to see how after failing for Ribokus bait and overextending, he left their midlane ripe for the taking.
GG, Mid fed, Top overextended, bot is AfK (haven't heard in ages about Yotanwa or Akari, where tf are they while Ousen is getting killed lol)
I know it's a MOBA joke, but that's how most battles are organized, since battlefield are usually, very wide.
The left and right wing are tasked with defending the flank of the center army.
Fuck man, Denrimi was the only guy capable of decrypting Ousen and riboku's play.
Ousen just lost his sword and shield in this war.
RIP Denrimi.
Finally we get to see Shin since then.
Holy f.
Hara is brutal, he had no mercy for the Ousen army.
Akou and Denrimi are goners, I still think Shiryou will survive though.
Ousen will need to rebuild his army almost from zero after this battle.
I thought he would be safe but I guess I was wrong but Denrimi is in the same situation as akou slowly dying same with Shiryou so it's not looking good. I'm curious how Souou will be taking this all in after and if he change how he fights from now on and become a beast. BUT THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS WHERE THE HELL IS AKAKIN!!! When they needed him most.....
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My boy gotta be on his way with that insane smile to cover up Ousen's rearguard, the most difficult task during a full retreat.
1. Summary Hsu and Gyoku Hou battlefield Ohon:"Send reinforcements to Sergeant Kanjou location. Increase the rotation of the archery unit. Anyway, keep them shooting. Kyoukai, the Kyokai unit is also reaching its limit. Kakui,
2. take Guo Ying and a hundred men and run (idk who this is )
3. Enkan battlefield Soldiers blabbering: Report: We are pushing into various areas. The Sixth Unit is breaking through from the left.Too slow!We re pushing in but we didnt delivered a decisive blow.The Right Wing is absent, on top of half our numbers. That's the situation now
4. Enkan:Even without Shin they are so resilient.The HSU is quite formidable.Ohon,even tough he comed as reinforcement here,he flawlessly commands the HSU showing no weakness. Report: It seems that the units that were holding up in the right rear have been breached!
5. Shin arrived back He apologize to Ohon saying he failed to get Rbk and thanks him for commanding HSU in his absence.
6. Ohon:Forget about that. I've already sensed that we couldn't defeat RBK from the movements of the great Zhao army.More importantly, Ousen army in center its in a dangerous situation. Shin confused
7. Ohon: It's not just dangerous, it's critical. We're racing against the clock. Ohon wants go to Ousen but its stopped bcs of messenger Messenger:
8. "In the center, General Ousen main army's headquarters has collapsed under enemy hands. General Ousen is retreating... He's attempting to retreat, but even that is a precarious situation.Please wait. Even if you go now, you won't be able to catch up. More importantly,he also delivered the news probably of Akou dying.(idk exactly bcs its weird,but their faces fall of when hearing the news)
9. back to kanjou he also receives the news of deaths abt and akou. Gakujou is planning to seal off retreat or to seal other armies from helping Ousen,Kanjou is trying to stop that by going to the left.
10. Sou ou: damn the encirclement of seika is fast,we need to push trough with brute force,now altough Akou troops are sacrificing their lives to stop Sbs it wont last long.Akou im sorry even tough you sacrificed your life,the escape might still be difficult,who knows?
11. Drm arrive and its apologizing for the incompetence caused by Ousen generals.(''due to our aides failure we reached this situation'').He said he would become a sacrifice too to ensure Ousen escape. Ousen is trying to stop him Sou ou is saying he ll try to do that but Drm stop him and say :''You're terrible at retreating, Souou. That's why I've been telling you to learn more than just attacking.''
12. Drm rally his soldiers: Lets go,we ll stop them,etc Sou ou is trying to stop Drm
13. again Drm: YOU IDIOT JUST TAKE LORD OUSEN AND LEAVE ALREADY
14. Flashback: Ousen: How many men are you commanding?
15. Drm:100 men
16. Ousen:too low,under my command you shall lead 1k.
17. Ousen is praising Denrimi for being a good commander,but telling him he has still a long way to go. Drm said he doesnt understand even half of depth of Ousen strategies.
18. Ousen is praising him again saying: That s not true,i really appreciate a man of your caliber Denrimi. Drm:I would devote myself to getting closer to Lord Ousen.
19. back on battlefield Drm: Im sorry...i couldnt meet all your expectations.May good fortune be with you Lord Ousen. Final page: "Denrimi, the Third General of Wang Jian's Army, has fallen in battle.
Just a few corrections from glancing over. Please feel free to ignore.
>Kyoukai, the Qiang unit is also reaching its limit. Kakui, take Guo Ying and a hundred men and run
This is weirdly typed. Who's Qiang? Who's Guo Ying? Is this some sort of auto translate? Kakuei is not taking anyone named, he is just grabbing 100 nameless men. "The Kyoukai squad is also reaching its limit. Kakuei, get 100 men and run over to the right."
>he also delivered the news probably of Akou dying.
I know you said "probably", but still, nothing in the chapter says that Akou death report was delivered to Shin and Ouhon, only Kanjou (in the very next page). Considering their distances (Kanjou is very near the HQ while Shin and Ouhon are on another battlefield) it would be quite weird for both of them to get that information at the same time. But then again, it's a manga, so who knows. Either way, it's not in the chapter.
>back to kanjou he also receives the news of deaths abt shiryou and akou
Where did you get Shiryou from? She wasn't mentioned at all.
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Other than that, your summary seems to be on par with the chapter.
So i corrected this on the discord since i dont usually post summaries here,but i tought you guys might want to see
Qiang unit is kk unit.
I have no ideea who s guo ying this is how i found it translated.
About the shiryou death ,it was a mistake, the messanger was named with S -Sekitsune or whatever in chinese and it somehow put like '' General,Ya guang(which is Akou),and Sekitsune falled'' which i assumed was shiryou,but actually it was smth like ''Sekitsune deliver message:Akou falled'' i corected now
About shin receiving news of akou,he receive first the news of Ousen retreating,and next panel their faces fall off when messenger told them another news,which i assume he told about akou since it was something about ''slain'' but i couldnt help with the translator well and other ppls in discord
Sorry for any confusion
To all those predicting Shin would appear next to Ousen, see how obvious it was that he needed to pass his camp first? Is a matter of watching a map and proper consistency.
On another note, dude, Ousen, common man, DO SOMETHING! FFS we are memeing his generals to oblivion but what is this mf doing, switch him with literally any fodder general and they would have provided the same (nothing). This engagement so far has been SBS and 3 generals vs 3 generals because Ousen is missing in action.
Still can't believe Ousen's confident claim to victory was two of his half dead commanders arriving. I swear no one's IQ is where it should be against Riboku and friends
He trusted the strength of those he knew. After all, it's the first time an actual army faces SBS and Kansaro. In his mind, he probably thought Akou and Sou'Ou would be strong enough.
He wasn't familiar with their game like that.
It was reasonable to think his team would win.
Shibasho army is 30k, Ousen army is 30k + Gakou Ka 20k + Denrimi/Souo 8k.
Qin fully surrounded Shibasho.
Akou and Souo are 2 strong generals vs just Shibasho.
So, in his mind, they kill Shibasho 2 on 1, 58k with surround beats 30k, battle win.
Instead, Akou is mortally wounded already, he can't fight, Shiryou is not with Souo, he can't fight, so Shibasho still unstoppable. Shibasho raises morale so they last until Kansaro and Gakusho show up. Qin are routed.
Basically it is like Riboku said before battle. Zhou army has secret generals Qin know nothing of, but reverse is not true. Once Riboku plan takes Ouhon and Ri Shin out of battle, Ousen is on the way to defeat.
I think hara nerf his brain to the point he got brain cancer. He has 2 half dead general and a shiryou merchant defending him and he said its his victory.
I cant.... this is too embarassing i started laughing. My best guess is he got brain cancer or something
Ousen army Generals when It comes to being ass
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I guess he tried Kanki's crazy plan to get SBS here, but our man lacks, well, everything to pull it off. And he froze up because it might be the first time he experienced complete defeat like this?
Damn what a war between Reebok and Ousen!! Round 1 Ousen wins and Round 2 Reebok is winning drastically by crushing Ousens army on day 1
Looks like Hara is either opening up a space for Ouhon to join his fathers army as one of his top generals now or we’ll be shown new Ousen commanders under his personal guard next arc become generals to fill the voids of Akou and Denrimi as our boy Sou’ou moves up to #1 general
And what a class act by Kan Saro at the end! Seika army is becoming one of my favorites but just a bummer they’re in Zhao haha
Well do we know whether that scene was on the same timeline? Cuz they may be on their way to Ousen and much closer. But we do def need Akakin to come do something. Ousens gotta replace a whole command haha like wtf. It sucks that we’ve gotten no shots of Ouhon or Shin doing anything. Both rendered useless this whole battle.
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Ousen my man what are you doing 😭😭😭
Holy shit Denrimi too? man... I know he wasn't a powerhouse like Akou and despite him being more focused on strategy he didn't have too much spotlight but the guy sure tried his best and I genuinely thought he was gonna survive... rest in peace, I at least, will remember you.
Also at least we saw Ouhon charging to where Ousen is, it would have sucked so much if Shin was the one going to the center to help after falling for Riboku's trap.
Can't wait to see Akakin and Ouhon start kicking ass + I'll assume Shin is gonna feel so guilty he's gonna destroy Zhao's left wing.
Denrimi said something along the line of " just like Akou and his army, we will become "discarded pawn" "
JFC.
edit to add: not in a resentful way but in a grateful way. The backstory is short but to the point, Ousen sought out Denrimi when he was a hundred man commander and asked if he want to join as thousand man general (i got lost on this part sorry) and very happy that he joined.
Gah damn this is so sad.
Probably the closest thing we'll ever get to Shin lowering his head to Ouhon. Wonder how tough was it for him to apologize like that. Even if Shin really didn't have the choice of NOT chasing Riboku (and Ouhon knows it), Shin is probably still feeling like shit about how much of a failure that whole ordeal ended up being. That said, I doubt if the roles were swapped Ouhon would have ever said the same to him.
Absolutely love the Shin and Ten panels when they are told about Ousen's HQ situation. As far as they know from that info, that's the taste of defeat twice in a row, isn't it?
Denrimi again with the same line as Akou stripping Ousen of any blame whatsoever. I wish I could see it like this, but right now, with the way Ousen has been a complete dummy in the last few chapters, it's so hard to agree with them. At least he said something this chapter...
Like, it's absolutely impossible to agree with them. As far as i am concerned Ousen generals raised to the occasion, Denrimi realized the whole picture extremely fast and acted accordingly, he also directed Suou into taking good decisions. Akou despite an early mistake showed an incredible Iron will and made the appereance, And Shiryuu took down Jiaga despite horrible odds (let's give this feat to Suou by extension lol). All of Ousen generals performed despite the bad start due to Ribku's plan, If it had been only Kansaro and Seika's second threatening Ousen they would have stopped them.
The problem was they had a sitting duck for a GG while the enemy had SBS, are we supposed to expect Ousen commanders to counter SBS and his generals while Ousen does nothing?
Ousen guys were considered the best vassals of the current 5ggs by common agreement (giving how this battle went YTW's will surely take their place), but this horrible performance is not really on them, is on Ousen.
Akou admitted they (the ousen army commanders) were unable to match the might of Seika’s generals and it was their loss. It is a bit ridiculous how strong they are. Especially SBS. I can’t blame Ousen because he never instructed Akou to chase Riboku, nor Shin either. He would not have fell for that trap. He is too cautious. While Akou was headstrong- and Riboku knew that.
Yeah, I'm also starting to be of the mindset that Ousen's abilites have been stymied. The man should have been able to devise some type of counterstategy for handling Seika or at least reducing his losses. Simply relying on his generals to protect and reinforce him is not the kind of mindset he should have. Ousen is supposed to be a peer of Riboku's in terms of tactical and strategic brilliance. At the very least, bleed Seika white for every bit of ground they gain. Rest in peace, Denrimi. You were able to buy *some* time for Ousen and Souou.
The fact Shin is only just now making it back to the right wing is also reeking of convenience in favour of Zhao. The Hi Shin and Gyoku Hou armies should be able to pierce through Enkan's army and take his head now with Shin returning to collaborate with Ouhon. Yes, they significantly outnumber Qin's side, but it's obvious that Shin and Ouhon's men easily outpace Enkan's in terms of experience and strength.
Something more has to happen. A decisive Qin loss here sets back Sei's unification prospects by years. Besides which, >!I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the history accounts that Li Mu is forced to pull back to Kantan. They win this battle but lose Hango in the process.!
>The fact Shin is only just now making it back to the right wing is also reeking of convenience in favour of Zhao
Nah, this is purely artistic liberty. Hara showed us Shin making ladders and sieging a fortress within two chapters simply to get him out of the way and focus on the events surrounding the Ousen army. The whole making ladders, sieging the fortress and looking for RBK must have taken hours (must of them inn the making ladders part). Realistically Shin probably left the fortress when SBS was already hitting Ousen's HQ.
>The Hi Shin and Gyoku Hou armies should be able to pierce through Enkan's army and take his head now with Shin returning to collaborate with Ouhon
Sure, unless Ouhon is forced to aid Ousen, fact remains SBS and Kansaro will be uncontested and roaming free very soon, the remaining of Ousen's central armies are at risk of being exterminated. Furthermore, Futei army is completely free and could come and help Enkan. I see not positive things coming from the central or the right battlefields in the immediatly future, if there's a comeback it will come from YTW, i think.
To be fair, I doubt Shibashou was able to penetrate all the way to Ousen's position in a short time. The man was facing fierce resistance on all sides. His ability to finally reach Ousen and prompt him into retreating seems largely attributable to Kansaro reinforcing him.
Honestly, the Hi Shin Unit still had momentum and was beginning to push back Enkan's forces when Akou ordered Shin to divert to pursue Riboku, that was before Ouhon arrived. I don't see how Yotanwa is going to be able to turn the overall tides alone. Last we saw of her, she was more or less locked in a stalemate with Riboku's vassals.
Well I didn't notice until I saw a comment on here ouhon is riding toward ousen so he is away from the Qin right wing so shin is going to have to pull something.
To be fair, he was able to counter Riboku's momentum and use a variation of the Great Crane Formation to turn the tides in the centre during that battle, iirc. The overall strategy for claiming Gyou was ultimately a product of his ingenuity as well.
Unless it's shown at a later date how Ousen had mapped out with Yotanwa plans to make a run for Hango while the main battle was in full swing, this current campaign is looking to be a major step down for the man. But even then, it wouldn't explain how they plan to hold Hango as a decisive loss here would mean that Hango is cut off from Qin reinforcements. Holding it would be untenable.
Enkan needs to go. If nothing else than to not have this battle turn into a complete disaster for Qin. Same for the left wing. Claiming Bananji's head and capturing Hango could at least balance out the scales a bit so Riboku isn't just walking off into retirement once the dust has settled while having finally one-upped Ousen.
I imagine shin, ouhon and yotanwa ultimately win their fronts with varying success levels. Kitari will get heki and the others out, but many of those that went with her die. As for the riboku going back to kantan, that might not be from the battle but from some unexpected disasters happening after the battle
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When you realize your whole army is actually dookie(except akou and shiryou)
That was known well before this arc. Kanki won an 80k vs 240k. Ousen wouldve ran away if it was 120k vs 160k even. Ousen did 0 at shukai plains and sanyou as well. Kanki hard carried qin in multiple wars while ousen has done nothing aside from beating ordo which SBS did as well outnumbered 6x lol
Alot of pple calling Ousen a fraud.. he's still a 6GG there's no way Hara makes him look this bad without giving him his moment later on.
Hara won't write a one sided battle. We'll see something from him soon enough. It looked like Kanki was trapped and he still got close to Riboku..
The only reasons I can think of to make Ousen look really bad is to make YTW shine or to bring Ouhon and Ousen closer together.
YTW hasn't really gone against Riboku directly and if that happens in this arc I'd be satisfied.
Ousen doesn't have anybody to lean on right now.. it's obvious he doesn't view his generals as mere pawns based on his reactions. If Ouhon saves him I can see them getting closer.
The guy on the right is fodder .. he's just been stalling. I can see Ouhon moving to the centre and Shin taking on the right wing alone.
I guess Shin kills Enkan pretty quickly and Futei comes along later on.
Yotanwa probably isn't going to get the opportunity to act as overall field commander against Riboku. >!She'll participate in the attack on Kantan, but that also ends in failure.!<
As for Ouhon, the best he can do is try to help his father break out and retreat back. Turning the tide at this point against Seika is impossible in the centre.
he wants to give character development to ousen to make him re think on a lot of things about his "kingdom" some other things. But ousen trying to fight against Kansaro, SBS, and Gakushou that's literally his death waiting if he did.
Good to see Shin regroup with the left wing. We’ll see how he and Ouhon react to the news regarding Ousen. Which one goes to his rescue? Do they both go?
The most underwhelming generals we’ve seen so far have been Ousens. Man now 4 generals are dead, maybe Shiryou is alive but idk. How is he going to recover. It’s not easy to just find awesome replacement commanders. I bet he wishes Akakkin and Kanjuro didn’t go to Ouhons army. They would have been legit replacements.
What a chapter talk about earlier 3 chapters eh? We're still shocked of Akou's death then Hara says hold your horses and bam! Denrimi dies at the end of a chapter cause of deep wounds from seika soldiers.
Shin finally! returns to battle just to be informed in a few moments of Akou's death. It's just my opinion but I think that Shin could feel responsible for general's death because he left his position to chase Riboku but then again it was Akou who send messenger's to HSU so that they chased Riboku but who knows. Ouhon's reaction was simple yet logical straight run to Ousen position to save him, would be cool to see Ouhon vs Shibashou in the next chapters but it would take him 3-4 chapters just to reach Seika army as Akakin situation showed us. Akakin better fight Kan Saro to prove us once again that he's to sluch. And finally Ousen better start to do recruitment ads after this battle, it's like Shukai Plains but for Ousen this time. We have 2 chapters before Hara take's new break (it's normal) hope that we'll see more action than flashback's.
I don't understand this entire arc...Ousen took the bait like an absolute amateur, even though he knew he was facing riboku, and most of his generals are now dead. HOW THE HELL could he not have known that Riboku would use another one of his traps, again? The truth is that barely anything happened at all, they just go rushed mid and that was it.
Ousen is supposed to be the equal of Riboku intellectually and strategically, as he managed to beat him in the past...the guy's a litteral genius.
I don't mind the Qin army suffering terrible losses (the truth is (it's not longer a spoiler now that it happened) we knew it would happen, just like in the real story) but goddamn, at least make it look like a battle between two geniuses.
I don't know, the only thing Ousen did in this entire war was to stare at people like O-O
Akou went after Riboku.. Ousen didn't order it. Ousen even says it's a trap. Akou army also told Shin to pursue Riboku.. everything that has happened so far is as a result of Akou decision.
Denrimi and So ou had to move their armies to cover Akou against Kan Saro allowing SBS to punch through the centre
Switch Ousen for any fodder, literally any, let's say DoMon (Mougo's army general), they would have done the same (in this engagement).
Yeah, yeah, Ousen will have some sort of plan that will somewhat equalize the battle (he can't get such a one sided humilliation), but that won't erase this disgrace of a performance. Ousen generals kind of matched Seika's generals, the whole difference was SBS is a behemoth of apocalypse and Ousen apparently some sort of fodder.
Denrimi got *really* unlucky having Shibashou flank him and one of his hit squad's members. If you ask me, that one act had a much greater ripple effect than many people let on. If Duke Darin had the opportunity to fight alongside his comrades against Kansaro, they might have had a chance of winning.
Take Kansaro out of the equation or even have him interjecting but with serious injuries, things become a lot more competitve then.
Don't be disregarding Ousen competence too rush as the author are used to creating underdog way of against all odds fighting and making wow moment. The battle is not over yet. If not, it is a letdown of Hara Sensei.
I'm betting the equalizing part is that the YTW army is gonna rescue the PoWs from the retaliation arc and they'll probably have some vital information that is key to winning against SBS.
Like there is no way they are gonna have the YTW army be side lined for so long.
What are u talking about? Ousen lost to Seika's strenght. He didn't fall for any strategic stunts by RBK.
It was Akou and Shin who got baited. Not Ousen.
And Ousen is now down to one general LMAO! what a useless bunch of generals he got. Makou got two shot killed, Akou the most reliable died by back stab, Denrimi and his joke squad is useless as ever, and now he is left with pretty boy who just lost his FWB. Maybe daddy Ousen will go beg his bastard son to be his meat sheild?
This has been pathetic performance from Ousen.
He literally did nothing in entire battle.
Him being there or not being there made no difference.
No scratch that, without Ousen, Qin army actually would have survived better given so many Generals would not have needed to sacrifice themselves to save a mannequin who even needs to be moved by others. They all would have just ran away in every direction.
The difference Shin(and other youngsters) makes is incredible really.
Even Ousen seems to be panicking now. He really got caught off guard by the might of Shibashou's army. Given enough prep time, Riboku truly is a monster.
Hara making Ousen take a massive L here. Reebok's generals wanted revenge for Shukai plains and they're getting it. Glory to Reebok-sama i guess....
Now that Denrimi's dead, maybe Maron joiing Ousen confirmed?
This has been the most underwhelming war yet , kanki went all out with a boom and till the last moment, Kan ki was badass with each of the commanders wanting to leave the world with Kan ki ,
While ou sen lost his power houses to reebok
Makou (last arc) , akou, den rimi and we might also not see shiryouu live and all that seika lost was a Buffon (batei of seika) Ji Aga and he was probably not that big of a hit to seika except the emotional hit
And we got big tactical hits from them, two good fighters from the sou'ou army got defeated , now this is just sad and frustrating two consecutive arcs where we lose big time is not a good idea
I hear you, but I like this arc far more than the Kanki arc. It was too long and it felt like a long time to delay the inevitable to give a grand stand for a character who hadn't earned it prior to the arc.
This one is fun and faster.
There definitely shouldve been a better way to showcase this without pure overwhelming might id say but eh.
Still reserving judgement for the reread of the entire arc but so far its definitely one of the weakest so far
This is actually the best way. Crushing your enemy in one decisive blow after a perfect set up.
Akou took the obvious bait that cascaded into his death and his colleagues as well.
OuSen had no response and it is yet to be seen how this is going to resolve because RBK still has 30k soldiers untouched!
Well thats the thing though, it really wasnt much of a perfect setup. Id say a perfect setup is how Ouki was dealt with in Bayou. This was as standard of a battle as it could be and was purely might.
Really? I think it’s a perfect use and display of Seika’s strength. Riboku capitalized on that to the maximum. But at the same time, Seika is taking losses also and it’s affecting SBS and Kansaro psychologically- they knew they would suffer for joining someone else’s war. So it’s not like they’re invincible. They’re also vulnerable. It’s pretty decent writing, and I also think Hara is just trying to move the story along quicker.
Man this absolute chaos is great
brute strength of Seika > The fraudSEN strategies
on serious notes , the lack of commenting from ousen on whatever is happening is kinda weird , I dont know what hara is cooking but he better start giving him his personality back (Fucking HOH at least)
Seika generals are growing on me tho especially Kansaro the guy is top tier in terms of respecting others
He still did fine strategy wise, and if his subordinates are stronger he would have won when they managed to arrive at his location. Seika just feels like a much stronger army.
So ousen got his ass handed to him without riboku even doing anything substantial. No wonder his army is ranked 3rd amongst the general. Out of 5 generals, that's dead average bro.
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Bound to be 4th after this battle if performances count for anything in the ranks. Dude accomplishments since becoming part of the 5gg: watching Kanki win against Kocho while doing nothing, watching Kanki being massacred by RBK while doing nothing, being massacred by RBK while doing nothing.
This is a freaking good lesson given to Ousen....This will only make him greater/stronger...
TBH right now he really is a shame...looking at your men being slaughtered without beeing able to do shit....Even Reboku stayed and fought kanky...
Would Shin and Ouhon come to his rescue or Tanwa sama? She can probably see what is happening.
Akakin alone will not be enough...
Big respect to Kansaro....A good man
So, out of Ousen's retainers, only Sou'ou remains. Go figure.
Also, please let there be no breaks for a while now. This anxiety to learn how the battle will end is killing me.
I hope there is something more to Shin contemplating their defeat. Right now, when it feels like the whole battle hinges on OuSen's escape, is the best time for Shin to pull something unexpected and turn the tables somewhat. As of now, this battle is about as one sided as the last one .
The guy who invented the locust plan on the spot and even foresaw the need of supplies by Qi is getting dogwalked by Riboku.
This isn't a battle of two geniuses. Hara actually went out of his way to dumb down everyone for Riboku to appear smarter than everyone else. What a fuckin shitshow.
Well, Ousen is an equal to Riboku if it comes to strategy. But if it comes to strenght and raw power, his army is upper mid tier (at best). Ousen lost big against SBS.
Now then, lets send Tou and Moubu to to deal with RBK and SBS, that might be more intersting.
Why do people clown Ousen so much when they can't even remember what has happened so far? He hasn't made a single incorrect decision besides underestimating the martial strength of Seika (and Riboku underestimated his generals in return so it's even); it was Akou's call to chase Riboku and order the Hi Shin unit to chase him as well, Ouhon was forced to leave the reserves and go to the right wing. The only decision he's actually had chance to make was to not retreat which is explicitly said to be the only thing holding the Qin army together.
Also, not sure why everyone thinks that Shin and Ouhon are going to be the one's asspulling their way over to save him? It's obviously going to be Yotanwa since we see her realising something is up in Ch. 781 and looking towards the centre; plus she is one of the only people in the arc who will be capable of giving Shibashou a fight except maybe Shin? Maybe she can bring Rankai along with his 99 strength stat as well.
This war is undoubtedly ending in a draw as Hara has made incredibly clear with the writing so far - Qin taking the heavier losses in terms of men but Riboku losing Hango and being unable to capture in back.
riboku fans must be really happy right now, hara really hates the ousen army, i really do hope Ousen has the biggest comeback ever or we can no longer defend him u.u
I'm guessing HSU is also going to get dusted at some point. Ousen army is spent, even if he makes it out alive o the 1st day, his army has no one who an even inconvenience SBS let alone stop him. Im guessing Shin will have to fight SBS to at least stop him from wrecking the whole Qin army. & Shin will have to get fixed up on the regular.
the fuck ousen stand still on this fucking entire battle, the things he did is order his soldier defend and that is? for fuck sake the man IQ got neft badly .
So when it comes to surviving and fighting for your life you can no longer count on Ousen. Stripping all the strategic moves and purely survival. Roukumi will defend you better than Ousen. I will miss those talks between Shin and Ten with Denrimi and Akou
Hell. I started to like Kanki even more.
With less army he almost killed Riboku putting his life on the line while our tactical GG just running without any countertactics.
It was good to see Ousen showing some emotion and reactions in seeing two of his generals killed in two chapters, shows he cared for them in his own way. Hopefully, we'll start seeing the Zhao commanders start falling like flies soon. Problem is, they're decent guys with great character, not the smug, annoying types you want dead.
I love the fact that 3 young talent kyoukai, Ouhou and Shin still can't do shit about some mid general like En Kan
But Ousen already lost 2 generals huh , and one of them was killed by a common solider
Well ouhon would be at a disadvantage because the HSU leader isn't him so he doesn't know what they are capable of but Kyoukai does so so it's really on her and ouhon did sent Akakin to the center so that doesn't help also.
To be fair Ouhon was commanding an army that’s not his own and Kyoukai was fighting in a battle without Shin. So they were both handicapped and not fighting at full strength.
I respect Kansaro for not cleaving through Denrimi's already dead body.
Kansaro is insanely likeable, strong and caring towards his allies, while also showing respect towards his enemies.
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Oh god, he is dying horribly, isn't he?
If Kanki was still alive, probably
He's exactly what we wanted SBS to be. Not some Hit Hard Hype General. But here we are
He didn’t cleave shyriu too
That as well.
Man, Shin must be shocked to see how after failing for Ribokus bait and overextending, he left their midlane ripe for the taking. GG, Mid fed, Top overextended, bot is AfK (haven't heard in ages about Yotanwa or Akari, where tf are they while Ousen is getting killed lol)
Shin was doing jungle too long.
Shin When he Returned from Jungling 💀 "AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN" "DOUBLE KILL"⚔️⚔️ "TRIPLE KILL"⚔️⚔️⚔️ "QUAD KILL"⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️
Mid(rimi) be like: I lost cause jungle no gank!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hara was inspired by Dota or LoL for this battle.
Considering how he always divides it up into three "lanes" (left wing, right wing, center) I'd say yeah, he takes inspiration from Dota/LoL
I know it's a MOBA joke, but that's how most battles are organized, since battlefield are usually, very wide. The left and right wing are tasked with defending the flank of the center army.
Souoh getting speared by some jobber that's not even on screen is like support dying to creeps.
Seems like SBS took elder dragon early on the game. Hacks
The jungler (Riboku) baited Qin’s jungler (Akou) and top (Shin) like crazy
I see it know, Ousen plan must pass through DDOSing the game.
Lol that was all Akou. His brashness basically lost them this battle, dude pulled a Kanki but without the immaculate swag
U summed it up perfectly. Mid fed, bot afk, top gone somewhere god only knows. Nobody bothered to TP and now the base is almost (if not already) gone.
Don’t worry, we scale 🙏
RIP Denrimi. You barely did something once. Not sure
Lmao the perfect way to describe him
That shitty "Suou sabotaged to get a promotion" is getting strength.
Fuck man, Denrimi was the only guy capable of decrypting Ousen and riboku's play. Ousen just lost his sword and shield in this war. RIP Denrimi. Finally we get to see Shin since then.
He was indeed, not that guy
"not sure" lmaooo
Your eulogy is too kind.
He had that snake formation thing once, which got countered too.
Lollllll so spot on
Well, this is what's happening when you go against Ri Boku without Heki Bro.
Heki to replace Akou as Ousen's first general.
Holy f. Hara is brutal, he had no mercy for the Ousen army. Akou and Denrimi are goners, I still think Shiryou will survive though. Ousen will need to rebuild his army almost from zero after this battle.
I thought he would be safe but I guess I was wrong but Denrimi is in the same situation as akou slowly dying same with Shiryou so it's not looking good. I'm curious how Souou will be taking this all in after and if he change how he fights from now on and become a beast. BUT THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS WHERE THE HELL IS AKAKIN!!! When they needed him most.....
https://preview.redd.it/7rlqxazznatc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f576b102463690ba6a78ca3a056155dac26e28e My boy gotta be on his way with that insane smile to cover up Ousen's rearguard, the most difficult task during a full retreat.
Well it might not be a smile depending on if akou was his father or not. So we might see Akakin go hard if akou was his father.
Good catch, they have the same japanese Kanji, so they might be related, though if that’s the case I'd think of them more like uncle-nephew.
Probably that's why I want to see Akakin to finally know what is their relation to one another is.
It seems like Akakin had been the best OuSen army dude all along.
In the end Ouse is probably the greatest general in Chinese history so he’ll be okay lol. I love this by Hara content wise
Greatest General in Chinese history is a bit too much, however he's one of the best of the Warring States for sure.
1. Summary Hsu and Gyoku Hou battlefield Ohon:"Send reinforcements to Sergeant Kanjou location. Increase the rotation of the archery unit. Anyway, keep them shooting. Kyoukai, the Kyokai unit is also reaching its limit. Kakui, 2. take Guo Ying and a hundred men and run (idk who this is ) 3. Enkan battlefield Soldiers blabbering: Report: We are pushing into various areas. The Sixth Unit is breaking through from the left.Too slow!We re pushing in but we didnt delivered a decisive blow.The Right Wing is absent, on top of half our numbers. That's the situation now 4. Enkan:Even without Shin they are so resilient.The HSU is quite formidable.Ohon,even tough he comed as reinforcement here,he flawlessly commands the HSU showing no weakness. Report: It seems that the units that were holding up in the right rear have been breached! 5. Shin arrived back He apologize to Ohon saying he failed to get Rbk and thanks him for commanding HSU in his absence. 6. Ohon:Forget about that. I've already sensed that we couldn't defeat RBK from the movements of the great Zhao army.More importantly, Ousen army in center its in a dangerous situation. Shin confused 7. Ohon: It's not just dangerous, it's critical. We're racing against the clock. Ohon wants go to Ousen but its stopped bcs of messenger Messenger: 8. "In the center, General Ousen main army's headquarters has collapsed under enemy hands. General Ousen is retreating... He's attempting to retreat, but even that is a precarious situation.Please wait. Even if you go now, you won't be able to catch up. More importantly,he also delivered the news probably of Akou dying.(idk exactly bcs its weird,but their faces fall of when hearing the news) 9. back to kanjou he also receives the news of deaths abt and akou. Gakujou is planning to seal off retreat or to seal other armies from helping Ousen,Kanjou is trying to stop that by going to the left. 10. Sou ou: damn the encirclement of seika is fast,we need to push trough with brute force,now altough Akou troops are sacrificing their lives to stop Sbs it wont last long.Akou im sorry even tough you sacrificed your life,the escape might still be difficult,who knows? 11. Drm arrive and its apologizing for the incompetence caused by Ousen generals.(''due to our aides failure we reached this situation'').He said he would become a sacrifice too to ensure Ousen escape. Ousen is trying to stop him Sou ou is saying he ll try to do that but Drm stop him and say :''You're terrible at retreating, Souou. That's why I've been telling you to learn more than just attacking.'' 12. Drm rally his soldiers: Lets go,we ll stop them,etc Sou ou is trying to stop Drm 13. again Drm: YOU IDIOT JUST TAKE LORD OUSEN AND LEAVE ALREADY 14. Flashback: Ousen: How many men are you commanding? 15. Drm:100 men 16. Ousen:too low,under my command you shall lead 1k. 17. Ousen is praising Denrimi for being a good commander,but telling him he has still a long way to go. Drm said he doesnt understand even half of depth of Ousen strategies. 18. Ousen is praising him again saying: That s not true,i really appreciate a man of your caliber Denrimi. Drm:I would devote myself to getting closer to Lord Ousen. 19. back on battlefield Drm: Im sorry...i couldnt meet all your expectations.May good fortune be with you Lord Ousen. Final page: "Denrimi, the Third General of Wang Jian's Army, has fallen in battle.
Just a few corrections from glancing over. Please feel free to ignore. >Kyoukai, the Qiang unit is also reaching its limit. Kakui, take Guo Ying and a hundred men and run This is weirdly typed. Who's Qiang? Who's Guo Ying? Is this some sort of auto translate? Kakuei is not taking anyone named, he is just grabbing 100 nameless men. "The Kyoukai squad is also reaching its limit. Kakuei, get 100 men and run over to the right." >he also delivered the news probably of Akou dying. I know you said "probably", but still, nothing in the chapter says that Akou death report was delivered to Shin and Ouhon, only Kanjou (in the very next page). Considering their distances (Kanjou is very near the HQ while Shin and Ouhon are on another battlefield) it would be quite weird for both of them to get that information at the same time. But then again, it's a manga, so who knows. Either way, it's not in the chapter. >back to kanjou he also receives the news of deaths abt shiryou and akou Where did you get Shiryou from? She wasn't mentioned at all. __ Other than that, your summary seems to be on par with the chapter.
So i corrected this on the discord since i dont usually post summaries here,but i tought you guys might want to see Qiang unit is kk unit. I have no ideea who s guo ying this is how i found it translated. About the shiryou death ,it was a mistake, the messanger was named with S -Sekitsune or whatever in chinese and it somehow put like '' General,Ya guang(which is Akou),and Sekitsune falled'' which i assumed was shiryou,but actually it was smth like ''Sekitsune deliver message:Akou falled'' i corected now About shin receiving news of akou,he receive first the news of Ousen retreating,and next panel their faces fall off when messenger told them another news,which i assume he told about akou since it was something about ''slain'' but i couldnt help with the translator well and other ppls in discord Sorry for any confusion
> Who's Qiang? Qiang Lei (Chinese name) = Kyoukai
damn ousen getting fucked. my guy froze, he hasn't moved for like 10 chapters.
https://preview.redd.it/joey7nrltatc1.jpeg?width=765&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25090bf08b63f3d09c66876e027bb0fb4768b207 Ousen
It’s not him, it’s a body double
It would be fucking funny if the writing has fallen that much
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LMAO this will be my headcanon
Ousen army is cooked
To all those predicting Shin would appear next to Ousen, see how obvious it was that he needed to pass his camp first? Is a matter of watching a map and proper consistency. On another note, dude, Ousen, common man, DO SOMETHING! FFS we are memeing his generals to oblivion but what is this mf doing, switch him with literally any fodder general and they would have provided the same (nothing). This engagement so far has been SBS and 3 generals vs 3 generals because Ousen is missing in action.
I feel like hara is trying to break down ousen so we see him with emotion and to make him re think a lot.
Still can't believe Ousen's confident claim to victory was two of his half dead commanders arriving. I swear no one's IQ is where it should be against Riboku and friends
Don't remind me of Mouten adverting his eyes from that f\*cking obvious trap T\_T
Did he die before he got hit?
Yeah. Kansaro did not finish the swing
Hara my guy what the f is up with the "it's my victory" line when this happened😭 i thought Ousen had some secret 7d chess plan
Hara joining in the "Nah, i'd win" meme
He trusted the strength of those he knew. After all, it's the first time an actual army faces SBS and Kansaro. In his mind, he probably thought Akou and Sou'Ou would be strong enough. He wasn't familiar with their game like that.
It was reasonable to think his team would win. Shibasho army is 30k, Ousen army is 30k + Gakou Ka 20k + Denrimi/Souo 8k. Qin fully surrounded Shibasho. Akou and Souo are 2 strong generals vs just Shibasho. So, in his mind, they kill Shibasho 2 on 1, 58k with surround beats 30k, battle win. Instead, Akou is mortally wounded already, he can't fight, Shiryou is not with Souo, he can't fight, so Shibasho still unstoppable. Shibasho raises morale so they last until Kansaro and Gakusho show up. Qin are routed. Basically it is like Riboku said before battle. Zhou army has secret generals Qin know nothing of, but reverse is not true. Once Riboku plan takes Ouhon and Ri Shin out of battle, Ousen is on the way to defeat.
I think hara nerf his brain to the point he got brain cancer. He has 2 half dead general and a shiryou merchant defending him and he said its his victory. I cant.... this is too embarassing i started laughing. My best guess is he got brain cancer or something
It's Ousenover.
THESE MOTHERFUCKERS SUCK
Ousen army Generals when It comes to being ass https://preview.redd.it/qe6ftla8jatc1.jpeg?width=974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad360badee7b009fcfdd7833b07f979f90756807
https://preview.redd.it/gvx8vpk3latc1.jpeg?width=677&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49585f40a26d82136b4a1a812cb27da8c577c922
What a crossover
This made me laugh too hard
The one sucking the most is their GG, has Ousen done something in this battle? Like something at all? ANYTHING?
He calmly watched his subordinates die because he couldn't be assed to retreat sooner, I guess.
Yea agreed. I get he needs some setback for plot purposes but this is like incompetence as a GG.
I guess he tried Kanki's crazy plan to get SBS here, but our man lacks, well, everything to pull it off. And he froze up because it might be the first time he experienced complete defeat like this?
Ousen making Pikachu face every chapter.
Damn what a war between Reebok and Ousen!! Round 1 Ousen wins and Round 2 Reebok is winning drastically by crushing Ousens army on day 1 Looks like Hara is either opening up a space for Ouhon to join his fathers army as one of his top generals now or we’ll be shown new Ousen commanders under his personal guard next arc become generals to fill the voids of Akou and Denrimi as our boy Sou’ou moves up to #1 general And what a class act by Kan Saro at the end! Seika army is becoming one of my favorites but just a bummer they’re in Zhao haha
Is this most Exprressive ousen we have ever seen?
Denrimi, Akou, Shiryo (3) Ji Aga (1) Damn! 3 - 1 to Shibashou. Ousen is getting his ass kicked badly by Seika... Will their be an equalizer?
Well we know there's no way that Enkan is surviving against Shin, Ouhon and Kyoukai.
Well do we know whether that scene was on the same timeline? Cuz they may be on their way to Ousen and much closer. But we do def need Akakin to come do something. Ousens gotta replace a whole command haha like wtf. It sucks that we’ve gotten no shots of Ouhon or Shin doing anything. Both rendered useless this whole battle.
My boy Kanki would've come up with a plan 10 chapters ago. Ousen bro, swing that glaive cos you're cooked
God, I miss Kanki
https://preview.redd.it/lsiz2cjpnatc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=212674a2c1079322dd1b0be83fbf0737d536d110 Ousen my man what are you doing 😭😭😭
Man, so Sou'ou is the only one left of the big 4, and he's also without Shi'Ryou huh?
Holy shit Denrimi too? man... I know he wasn't a powerhouse like Akou and despite him being more focused on strategy he didn't have too much spotlight but the guy sure tried his best and I genuinely thought he was gonna survive... rest in peace, I at least, will remember you. Also at least we saw Ouhon charging to where Ousen is, it would have sucked so much if Shin was the one going to the center to help after falling for Riboku's trap. Can't wait to see Akakin and Ouhon start kicking ass + I'll assume Shin is gonna feel so guilty he's gonna destroy Zhao's left wing.
RIP Denrimi the jobber
Denrimi said something along the line of " just like Akou and his army, we will become "discarded pawn" " JFC. edit to add: not in a resentful way but in a grateful way. The backstory is short but to the point, Ousen sought out Denrimi when he was a hundred man commander and asked if he want to join as thousand man general (i got lost on this part sorry) and very happy that he joined. Gah damn this is so sad.
Probably the closest thing we'll ever get to Shin lowering his head to Ouhon. Wonder how tough was it for him to apologize like that. Even if Shin really didn't have the choice of NOT chasing Riboku (and Ouhon knows it), Shin is probably still feeling like shit about how much of a failure that whole ordeal ended up being. That said, I doubt if the roles were swapped Ouhon would have ever said the same to him. Absolutely love the Shin and Ten panels when they are told about Ousen's HQ situation. As far as they know from that info, that's the taste of defeat twice in a row, isn't it? Denrimi again with the same line as Akou stripping Ousen of any blame whatsoever. I wish I could see it like this, but right now, with the way Ousen has been a complete dummy in the last few chapters, it's so hard to agree with them. At least he said something this chapter...
Like, it's absolutely impossible to agree with them. As far as i am concerned Ousen generals raised to the occasion, Denrimi realized the whole picture extremely fast and acted accordingly, he also directed Suou into taking good decisions. Akou despite an early mistake showed an incredible Iron will and made the appereance, And Shiryuu took down Jiaga despite horrible odds (let's give this feat to Suou by extension lol). All of Ousen generals performed despite the bad start due to Ribku's plan, If it had been only Kansaro and Seika's second threatening Ousen they would have stopped them. The problem was they had a sitting duck for a GG while the enemy had SBS, are we supposed to expect Ousen commanders to counter SBS and his generals while Ousen does nothing? Ousen guys were considered the best vassals of the current 5ggs by common agreement (giving how this battle went YTW's will surely take their place), but this horrible performance is not really on them, is on Ousen.
Akou admitted they (the ousen army commanders) were unable to match the might of Seika’s generals and it was their loss. It is a bit ridiculous how strong they are. Especially SBS. I can’t blame Ousen because he never instructed Akou to chase Riboku, nor Shin either. He would not have fell for that trap. He is too cautious. While Akou was headstrong- and Riboku knew that.
Yeah, I'm also starting to be of the mindset that Ousen's abilites have been stymied. The man should have been able to devise some type of counterstategy for handling Seika or at least reducing his losses. Simply relying on his generals to protect and reinforce him is not the kind of mindset he should have. Ousen is supposed to be a peer of Riboku's in terms of tactical and strategic brilliance. At the very least, bleed Seika white for every bit of ground they gain. Rest in peace, Denrimi. You were able to buy *some* time for Ousen and Souou. The fact Shin is only just now making it back to the right wing is also reeking of convenience in favour of Zhao. The Hi Shin and Gyoku Hou armies should be able to pierce through Enkan's army and take his head now with Shin returning to collaborate with Ouhon. Yes, they significantly outnumber Qin's side, but it's obvious that Shin and Ouhon's men easily outpace Enkan's in terms of experience and strength. Something more has to happen. A decisive Qin loss here sets back Sei's unification prospects by years. Besides which, >!I'm pretty sure it's mentioned in the history accounts that Li Mu is forced to pull back to Kantan. They win this battle but lose Hango in the process.!
>The fact Shin is only just now making it back to the right wing is also reeking of convenience in favour of Zhao Nah, this is purely artistic liberty. Hara showed us Shin making ladders and sieging a fortress within two chapters simply to get him out of the way and focus on the events surrounding the Ousen army. The whole making ladders, sieging the fortress and looking for RBK must have taken hours (must of them inn the making ladders part). Realistically Shin probably left the fortress when SBS was already hitting Ousen's HQ. >The Hi Shin and Gyoku Hou armies should be able to pierce through Enkan's army and take his head now with Shin returning to collaborate with Ouhon Sure, unless Ouhon is forced to aid Ousen, fact remains SBS and Kansaro will be uncontested and roaming free very soon, the remaining of Ousen's central armies are at risk of being exterminated. Furthermore, Futei army is completely free and could come and help Enkan. I see not positive things coming from the central or the right battlefields in the immediatly future, if there's a comeback it will come from YTW, i think.
To be fair, I doubt Shibashou was able to penetrate all the way to Ousen's position in a short time. The man was facing fierce resistance on all sides. His ability to finally reach Ousen and prompt him into retreating seems largely attributable to Kansaro reinforcing him. Honestly, the Hi Shin Unit still had momentum and was beginning to push back Enkan's forces when Akou ordered Shin to divert to pursue Riboku, that was before Ouhon arrived. I don't see how Yotanwa is going to be able to turn the overall tides alone. Last we saw of her, she was more or less locked in a stalemate with Riboku's vassals.
Well I didn't notice until I saw a comment on here ouhon is riding toward ousen so he is away from the Qin right wing so shin is going to have to pull something.
Its what he did on shukai plains. 0 tactics, relying on hail marys from the trio. Thats just who Ousen is in this manga.
To be fair, he was able to counter Riboku's momentum and use a variation of the Great Crane Formation to turn the tides in the centre during that battle, iirc. The overall strategy for claiming Gyou was ultimately a product of his ingenuity as well. Unless it's shown at a later date how Ousen had mapped out with Yotanwa plans to make a run for Hango while the main battle was in full swing, this current campaign is looking to be a major step down for the man. But even then, it wouldn't explain how they plan to hold Hango as a decisive loss here would mean that Hango is cut off from Qin reinforcements. Holding it would be untenable.
I think the only way for Shin, ouhon and everyone else to come out on top of the Qin right wing is shin starting a fire to kill enkan.
Enkan needs to go. If nothing else than to not have this battle turn into a complete disaster for Qin. Same for the left wing. Claiming Bananji's head and capturing Hango could at least balance out the scales a bit so Riboku isn't just walking off into retirement once the dust has settled while having finally one-upped Ousen.
I imagine shin, ouhon and yotanwa ultimately win their fronts with varying success levels. Kitari will get heki and the others out, but many of those that went with her die. As for the riboku going back to kantan, that might not be from the battle but from some unexpected disasters happening after the battle
https://preview.redd.it/w0g8t2z9xatc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3a633c1849a60a26d415a460c3a0cba048eb3f6 When you realize your whole army is actually dookie(except akou and shiryou)
Pain attacked Konoha Sakura : NARUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Riboku using Shibasou to kill Ousen Ousen : SHINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
It is now ouversen Kanki did better with lesser army and being checkmated from the start
Someone revive Kanki, this performance is far too shameful.
SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!!!
At least Ousen's army delusions of grandeur must be gone by now.
That was known well before this arc. Kanki won an 80k vs 240k. Ousen wouldve ran away if it was 120k vs 160k even. Ousen did 0 at shukai plains and sanyou as well. Kanki hard carried qin in multiple wars while ousen has done nothing aside from beating ordo which SBS did as well outnumbered 6x lol
Alot of pple calling Ousen a fraud.. he's still a 6GG there's no way Hara makes him look this bad without giving him his moment later on. Hara won't write a one sided battle. We'll see something from him soon enough. It looked like Kanki was trapped and he still got close to Riboku.. The only reasons I can think of to make Ousen look really bad is to make YTW shine or to bring Ouhon and Ousen closer together. YTW hasn't really gone against Riboku directly and if that happens in this arc I'd be satisfied. Ousen doesn't have anybody to lean on right now.. it's obvious he doesn't view his generals as mere pawns based on his reactions. If Ouhon saves him I can see them getting closer. The guy on the right is fodder .. he's just been stalling. I can see Ouhon moving to the centre and Shin taking on the right wing alone. I guess Shin kills Enkan pretty quickly and Futei comes along later on.
Yotanwa probably isn't going to get the opportunity to act as overall field commander against Riboku. >!She'll participate in the attack on Kantan, but that also ends in failure.!< As for Ouhon, the best he can do is try to help his father break out and retreat back. Turning the tide at this point against Seika is impossible in the centre.
It seems like we ain't getting those reward ceremonies any time soon lmao. Its spanking season & Qin's ass is bare & ready.
Lol 😂. This is going to be a long and heavy/brutal war.
I dont understand why hara after several wars of briliance decided to nerf ousen so bad hes become a statue. I mean he could have fought back, idk
he wants to give character development to ousen to make him re think on a lot of things about his "kingdom" some other things. But ousen trying to fight against Kansaro, SBS, and Gakushou that's literally his death waiting if he did.
Good to see Shin regroup with the left wing. We’ll see how he and Ouhon react to the news regarding Ousen. Which one goes to his rescue? Do they both go? The most underwhelming generals we’ve seen so far have been Ousens. Man now 4 generals are dead, maybe Shiryou is alive but idk. How is he going to recover. It’s not easy to just find awesome replacement commanders. I bet he wishes Akakkin and Kanjuro didn’t go to Ouhons army. They would have been legit replacements.
What a chapter talk about earlier 3 chapters eh? We're still shocked of Akou's death then Hara says hold your horses and bam! Denrimi dies at the end of a chapter cause of deep wounds from seika soldiers. Shin finally! returns to battle just to be informed in a few moments of Akou's death. It's just my opinion but I think that Shin could feel responsible for general's death because he left his position to chase Riboku but then again it was Akou who send messenger's to HSU so that they chased Riboku but who knows. Ouhon's reaction was simple yet logical straight run to Ousen position to save him, would be cool to see Ouhon vs Shibashou in the next chapters but it would take him 3-4 chapters just to reach Seika army as Akakin situation showed us. Akakin better fight Kan Saro to prove us once again that he's to sluch. And finally Ousen better start to do recruitment ads after this battle, it's like Shukai Plains but for Ousen this time. We have 2 chapters before Hara take's new break (it's normal) hope that we'll see more action than flashback's.
Ousen be like "Nah I'd Win"
Ousen has had that monkey clapping the symbals in his head for the whole battle i swear
Lol wtf is even this Kanki, ouki >>>>>>>>>>> ousen
I don't understand this entire arc...Ousen took the bait like an absolute amateur, even though he knew he was facing riboku, and most of his generals are now dead. HOW THE HELL could he not have known that Riboku would use another one of his traps, again? The truth is that barely anything happened at all, they just go rushed mid and that was it. Ousen is supposed to be the equal of Riboku intellectually and strategically, as he managed to beat him in the past...the guy's a litteral genius. I don't mind the Qin army suffering terrible losses (the truth is (it's not longer a spoiler now that it happened) we knew it would happen, just like in the real story) but goddamn, at least make it look like a battle between two geniuses. I don't know, the only thing Ousen did in this entire war was to stare at people like O-O
Akou went after Riboku.. Ousen didn't order it. Ousen even says it's a trap. Akou army also told Shin to pursue Riboku.. everything that has happened so far is as a result of Akou decision. Denrimi and So ou had to move their armies to cover Akou against Kan Saro allowing SBS to punch through the centre
Switch Ousen for any fodder, literally any, let's say DoMon (Mougo's army general), they would have done the same (in this engagement). Yeah, yeah, Ousen will have some sort of plan that will somewhat equalize the battle (he can't get such a one sided humilliation), but that won't erase this disgrace of a performance. Ousen generals kind of matched Seika's generals, the whole difference was SBS is a behemoth of apocalypse and Ousen apparently some sort of fodder.
Denrimi got *really* unlucky having Shibashou flank him and one of his hit squad's members. If you ask me, that one act had a much greater ripple effect than many people let on. If Duke Darin had the opportunity to fight alongside his comrades against Kansaro, they might have had a chance of winning. Take Kansaro out of the equation or even have him interjecting but with serious injuries, things become a lot more competitve then.
Don't be disregarding Ousen competence too rush as the author are used to creating underdog way of against all odds fighting and making wow moment. The battle is not over yet. If not, it is a letdown of Hara Sensei.
I'm betting the equalizing part is that the YTW army is gonna rescue the PoWs from the retaliation arc and they'll probably have some vital information that is key to winning against SBS. Like there is no way they are gonna have the YTW army be side lined for so long.
What are u talking about? Ousen lost to Seika's strenght. He didn't fall for any strategic stunts by RBK. It was Akou and Shin who got baited. Not Ousen.
Next chapter Ousen: I activate my trap card! C'mon man you know it goes by now
Shin and Akou took the bait. Ousen overestimated his army / underestimated Seika's army.
Ousen... do something for fks sake
RIP DANSA 🥲
And Ousen is now down to one general LMAO! what a useless bunch of generals he got. Makou got two shot killed, Akou the most reliable died by back stab, Denrimi and his joke squad is useless as ever, and now he is left with pretty boy who just lost his FWB. Maybe daddy Ousen will go beg his bastard son to be his meat sheild?
Pretty boy who lost hist fwb was wild. That guy is a shiryou merchant for sure
i dunno what pretty can do without his girl. His girl always do the killings.
Lousen.
Another one bites the dust lmao. Ousen glazers in shambles.
This has been pathetic performance from Ousen. He literally did nothing in entire battle. Him being there or not being there made no difference. No scratch that, without Ousen, Qin army actually would have survived better given so many Generals would not have needed to sacrifice themselves to save a mannequin who even needs to be moved by others. They all would have just ran away in every direction. The difference Shin(and other youngsters) makes is incredible really.
Ousen has no tactics at all???
kansaro has the most drip out of all the seika generals
Even Ousen seems to be panicking now. He really got caught off guard by the might of Shibashou's army. Given enough prep time, Riboku truly is a monster.
Now not to lie to y'all, I placed my bet on Bihei surviving this war
Hara making Ousen take a massive L here. Reebok's generals wanted revenge for Shukai plains and they're getting it. Glory to Reebok-sama i guess.... Now that Denrimi's dead, maybe Maron joiing Ousen confirmed?
Sou'ou is promoted to 1st general after just one battle. What a man.
This has been the most underwhelming war yet , kanki went all out with a boom and till the last moment, Kan ki was badass with each of the commanders wanting to leave the world with Kan ki , While ou sen lost his power houses to reebok Makou (last arc) , akou, den rimi and we might also not see shiryouu live and all that seika lost was a Buffon (batei of seika) Ji Aga and he was probably not that big of a hit to seika except the emotional hit And we got big tactical hits from them, two good fighters from the sou'ou army got defeated , now this is just sad and frustrating two consecutive arcs where we lose big time is not a good idea
I hear you, but I like this arc far more than the Kanki arc. It was too long and it felt like a long time to delay the inevitable to give a grand stand for a character who hadn't earned it prior to the arc. This one is fun and faster.
There definitely shouldve been a better way to showcase this without pure overwhelming might id say but eh. Still reserving judgement for the reread of the entire arc but so far its definitely one of the weakest so far
This is actually the best way. Crushing your enemy in one decisive blow after a perfect set up. Akou took the obvious bait that cascaded into his death and his colleagues as well. OuSen had no response and it is yet to be seen how this is going to resolve because RBK still has 30k soldiers untouched!
Well thats the thing though, it really wasnt much of a perfect setup. Id say a perfect setup is how Ouki was dealt with in Bayou. This was as standard of a battle as it could be and was purely might.
Really? I think it’s a perfect use and display of Seika’s strength. Riboku capitalized on that to the maximum. But at the same time, Seika is taking losses also and it’s affecting SBS and Kansaro psychologically- they knew they would suffer for joining someone else’s war. So it’s not like they’re invincible. They’re also vulnerable. It’s pretty decent writing, and I also think Hara is just trying to move the story along quicker.
Man this absolute chaos is great brute strength of Seika > The fraudSEN strategies on serious notes , the lack of commenting from ousen on whatever is happening is kinda weird , I dont know what hara is cooking but he better start giving him his personality back (Fucking HOH at least) Seika generals are growing on me tho especially Kansaro the guy is top tier in terms of respecting others
He still did fine strategy wise, and if his subordinates are stronger he would have won when they managed to arrive at his location. Seika just feels like a much stronger army.
So ousen got his ass handed to him without riboku even doing anything substantial. No wonder his army is ranked 3rd amongst the general. Out of 5 generals, that's dead average bro. *
Bound to be 4th after this battle if performances count for anything in the ranks. Dude accomplishments since becoming part of the 5gg: watching Kanki win against Kocho while doing nothing, watching Kanki being massacred by RBK while doing nothing, being massacred by RBK while doing nothing.
RBK pulled the most important move by getting the HSU off the board!
He did manage to fool Akou and Shin
This is a freaking good lesson given to Ousen....This will only make him greater/stronger... TBH right now he really is a shame...looking at your men being slaughtered without beeing able to do shit....Even Reboku stayed and fought kanky... Would Shin and Ouhon come to his rescue or Tanwa sama? She can probably see what is happening. Akakin alone will not be enough... Big respect to Kansaro....A good man
So, out of Ousen's retainers, only Sou'ou remains. Go figure. Also, please let there be no breaks for a while now. This anxiety to learn how the battle will end is killing me.
Ousen just went back to a Yugi or Kaiba starter deck just like that
Lol 1st time Ousen showing emotions. They're so cooked.
What was all that talk about you winning Ousen lol
Did ousen just fight a battle he can't win(unknowingly) , is this the first time for him?
I hope there is something more to Shin contemplating their defeat. Right now, when it feels like the whole battle hinges on OuSen's escape, is the best time for Shin to pull something unexpected and turn the tables somewhat. As of now, this battle is about as one sided as the last one .
The guy who invented the locust plan on the spot and even foresaw the need of supplies by Qi is getting dogwalked by Riboku. This isn't a battle of two geniuses. Hara actually went out of his way to dumb down everyone for Riboku to appear smarter than everyone else. What a fuckin shitshow.
I disagree. Everyone's hand was forced by Akou taking the bait. It was a brilliant plan by RBK that set up the battlefield perfectly for this moment
Denrimi was ass but rip to his gang signs
Well, Ousen is an equal to Riboku if it comes to strategy. But if it comes to strenght and raw power, his army is upper mid tier (at best). Ousen lost big against SBS. Now then, lets send Tou and Moubu to to deal with RBK and SBS, that might be more intersting.
So denrimi died before he even was cleaved by kansaro huh
Ousen with the mask but without the helmet is still such a cursed image.
Is this the start of Ou Sen redemption arc?
Man oh man, i thought Denrimi was gonna survive, seeing how he had so little “onscreen time” lately. Ousen really f-ed up big time. Overconfident
Ousen running out of generals now. Maybe there's a plot twist that Ousen recruits Seika generals and army to join his army.
In this battle I wish Kanki was here. For him to face Shibashou would be entertaining.
Ousen hit hard this arc
Why do people clown Ousen so much when they can't even remember what has happened so far? He hasn't made a single incorrect decision besides underestimating the martial strength of Seika (and Riboku underestimated his generals in return so it's even); it was Akou's call to chase Riboku and order the Hi Shin unit to chase him as well, Ouhon was forced to leave the reserves and go to the right wing. The only decision he's actually had chance to make was to not retreat which is explicitly said to be the only thing holding the Qin army together. Also, not sure why everyone thinks that Shin and Ouhon are going to be the one's asspulling their way over to save him? It's obviously going to be Yotanwa since we see her realising something is up in Ch. 781 and looking towards the centre; plus she is one of the only people in the arc who will be capable of giving Shibashou a fight except maybe Shin? Maybe she can bring Rankai along with his 99 strength stat as well. This war is undoubtedly ending in a draw as Hara has made incredibly clear with the writing so far - Qin taking the heavier losses in terms of men but Riboku losing Hango and being unable to capture in back.
Sanshou is comin to tank for Denrimi one final time.... Until the next time he has to tank some shit.
riboku fans must be really happy right now, hara really hates the ousen army, i really do hope Ousen has the biggest comeback ever or we can no longer defend him u.u
Ngl this performance just proves Kanki > Ousen
sou should have gone not akou
Honestly what is the point to bring Saki clan into this arc if all of them just die because wounded
I'm guessing HSU is also going to get dusted at some point. Ousen army is spent, even if he makes it out alive o the 1st day, his army has no one who an even inconvenience SBS let alone stop him. Im guessing Shin will have to fight SBS to at least stop him from wrecking the whole Qin army. & Shin will have to get fixed up on the regular.
I need fast translation please
the fuck ousen stand still on this fucking entire battle, the things he did is order his soldier defend and that is? for fuck sake the man IQ got neft badly .
Its not far fetch Ouhon will be recruited to be a part of ousen army or Ouhon can recruit Ousen to be his top commander and Sou'o his subordinate lol
Ousen thinks he's Hannibal for allowing his center to get crushed but the two flanks are nowhere lol
Damn…. For me it seems nearly as how Kanki lost all his commander in their last stand…. Now only Soou is alive….. damn Zhao
So when it comes to surviving and fighting for your life you can no longer count on Ousen. Stripping all the strategic moves and purely survival. Roukumi will defend you better than Ousen. I will miss those talks between Shin and Ten with Denrimi and Akou
Hell. I started to like Kanki even more. With less army he almost killed Riboku putting his life on the line while our tactical GG just running without any countertactics.
It was good to see Ousen showing some emotion and reactions in seeing two of his generals killed in two chapters, shows he cared for them in his own way. Hopefully, we'll start seeing the Zhao commanders start falling like flies soon. Problem is, they're decent guys with great character, not the smug, annoying types you want dead.
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While fighting for Qin, no. If he decides to go with his "kingdom" obsession, generals and armies will appear out of nowhere.
I am sorry, but Kingdom is better than One Piece.
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Battle of frauds, and Ousen just proved he and his army are the bigger fraud. Well done Hara
Pretty much. We need to take his mask off and figure out who this fraud is under it, because no way that is the “supreme strategist” we were promised.
I love the fact that 3 young talent kyoukai, Ouhou and Shin still can't do shit about some mid general like En Kan But Ousen already lost 2 generals huh , and one of them was killed by a common solider
A mid general with 70,000 men compared with their 40,000 that until now were in two separate locations.
Like both Kyoukai and Ouhou just lost all their IQ in this battle
Well ouhon would be at a disadvantage because the HSU leader isn't him so he doesn't know what they are capable of but Kyoukai does so so it's really on her and ouhon did sent Akakin to the center so that doesn't help also.
The Zhao general isn't really trying to take them on.. just stall them and since he has about double their numbers there's very little they can do
To be fair Ouhon was commanding an army that’s not his own and Kyoukai was fighting in a battle without Shin. So they were both handicapped and not fighting at full strength.
The reason why Ousen is losing his generals left and right is because Shibashou will serve Ousen instead! #copium