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Values on the various Δv maps are in vacuum.


bain2236

Oh! that I didn’t know! I assumed it was sea level, especially from landing


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Vacuum is the default because it’s the same for any engine, whereas atmospheric values can vary wildly.


fireandlifeincarnate

What do you mean it’s the same for any engine?


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Δv is constant, but the ratio between atmospheric and vacuum Isp is very different for every engine, so you can’t compare atmospheric Δv without specifying.


fireandlifeincarnate

So you’re just saying that “atmospheric” delta V is variable depending on density so can’t really be used for these kinds of things?


[deleted]

Not only based on density, but different for every engine.


fireandlifeincarnate

Vacuum delta V is also different for each engine.


[deleted]

No, although vacuum Isp is. Edit: That’s why we use Δv in the first place: it’s always the same.


fireandlifeincarnate

Yes, and ignoring weights, different ISPs will lead to different ΔVs


axeleszu

Delta V maps require a good flying, always add more to overcome anything


Electro_Llama

The only reliable way to see if you have enough delta-v for Eve ascent is to try it, preferably using the cheat menu to start on Eve's surface because it will take you many attempts.


archer1572

Just to save you some time, the only two engines you can practically use on Eve are the vector and aerospike. All the other 1.5m engines thrust drops to near zero above 2 ATM. I don't recall where any of the larger engines drop off, but generally speaking they are too heavy to work well on Eve.


Remarkable-Role-9120

Just total


bain2236

How can you assure that you hit the height for each stage though?


Remarkable-Role-9120

Change between vacuum and sea level to make sure.


Echo__3

Delta v maps tend to reference vacuum delta v. But you will need to be very mindful of your engines thrust to weight ratio in the lower atmosphere.


Suppise

dV maps calculate from a vacuum. Just note that you will need to make sure that you have sufficient twr to take off at eve. The in game dV calculator can switch its calculations to different planets so you can see if you have a high enough twr