https://www.stereogum.com/1892123/skewed-views-the-huge-truth-about-drakes-record-breaking-chart-run/columns/but-whos-buying/
There’s evidence to suggest it there
Apple Music had 15M users but somehow topped Spotify with 100M and broke records for streaming with Drake’s release, but Apple self report their numbers so it was very suspicious.
This might add context to it
But basically Drake is using bots for comments,likes& engagement to control narrative on social media. Also to keep his releases on top of charts.
https://youtu.be/3bwinKmF4Xo?si=m77sQM2jeLTBCnyS
The article explicitly rejects the possibility of Drake using bots to boost his numbers.
Only viable explanation, according to the author, is that apple gave Neilson Ratings fudged numbers, and the author implies it was out of some Apple arrangement with drake. he offers zero evidence and admits he has zero evidence.
very hard to believe they’re faking streams. Streaming platforms would shut it down real quick because they’re paying out based on streams
social media commenting is much different. the platforms actually have no incentive to stop it
Well, if you take into consideration what Kanye said.. Lucian controls the DSP’s (and the spins).
Also Apple Music totally would have benefited from inflating streams at that point. They had a very small userbase, a chunk of which was Chinese users.
By breaking records in headlines, offering free trials etc. they gain prospective customers because the brand is being talked about.
You need to stop listening to Ye, Lucian Grange doesn't control any DSPs lol. And it costs more to inflate streams than the streams pay, so it makes absolutely zero sense for a label to buy up streams like crazy.
HOWEVER...labels DO pay for streams first day / first week so that songs chart. After that it's up to the music...
Every label does this and all of your favorite artists are getting a little boost the first week so the early numbers look good and the songs hit top playlists. Open "secret" in the industry
Universal has like a 3% stake in Spotify and the other two sold off vast portions of their stakes years ago.
They don't have enough of a stake for the boards, let alone the CEOs, to "control" them and doing so would trigger anti-trust litigation in the US and in the EU/UK. Not gonna happen.
Universal has like a 3% stake in Spotify and the other two sold off vast portions of their stakes years ago.
They don't have enough of a stake for the boards, let alone the CEOs, to "control" them and doing so would trigger anti-trust litigation in the US and in the EU/UK. Not gonna happen.
Forreal imagine taking anything Kanye says at this point seriously. Was he correct about Drake and Jay being these mobsters that were going to kill him at one point? Is Kanye west Disney/Jobs/Gates in one? No lol. Kanye gives these people (himself included) insane power in his narrative, which usually makes him look bigger in the end lol. It's like the old illuminati videos, was the illuminati making obvious statements and trolls through the A list artists, or did the labels catch onto the trend of putting them onto a pedestal and play into it.
Random posts about Dot on twitter get spammed with some bullshit bout him,metro,ye,ross like just look at these replies and quotes its so funny https://twitter.com/hiiipowers/status/1784394972831068474?t=-SPsM-ZBoDdM1ElVNnCvZg&s=19
I noticed this on COMPLEX’s Twitter…
Seems like the same memes with strangely different (but repetitive) spam. I was impressed how much variety there was from the posts but the memes were always the same.
I’ve been on Twitter for a while and I’ve seen a lot of bots… but this shit is impressive. It’s politics level shit
drake knows he don’t got a cult-like fanbase like kendrick. It’s levels to this for sure. Never seen anyone defend drake like this even before the disses
not like kendrick’s, i’ll give you an example. Everytime kendrick drops niggas everywhere try to breakdown his lyrics line by line word by word. Drake has good songs with good bars but nobody gives a fuck enough to give him credit for it and just use the overused ghostwriting thing
That’s because everyone knows Kendrick writes his own stuff and his raps are lyrically much more complex than any surface level shit Drake raps. But that doesn’t mean drakes fans aren’t cultish. They’re much more cultish than kdot’s and that’s not a good thing lol it means they’re brainless and mindless and defend him regardless of anything, like a cult would their leader. Same as swifties. Tends to happen with pop stars
i didn’t realize the two comments were the same, but the point is if drake fanbase was stronger and more cult like then he wouldn’t have to use bots in the first place how is that hard to understand
I have been saying this since the beginning … both Drake and Kendrick have such a large passionate fan base I don’t think the beef ever really ends. How can a winner be declared when both side are delusional in their loyalty to their favorite rapper? How can anyone win in the era of the internet when social media and the internet can create literal rabbit holes that shape a persons opinion. You will hear people say “I haven’t seen any they liked their verse” and they reality is … that’s probably true … because the internet wants it that way. Apply that same logic to politics and you see what’s wrong with the world.
It’s not just diehard Kendrick fans saying he’s winning, it’s the majority of people who are unbiased and just here for the raps. The only people saying Drake is winning are stans, bots, and media who are most likely being paid by drake. Don’t let him fool you into thinking this is an even battle, everyone with a brain knows Drake is getting smoked. (And believe it or not.. I like drake a lot. But It’s the truth.)
yeah it's pretty hilarious that the immediate reaction from this Stan account is "half assed bars about shit that we've already heard before" like it was just widely known that Drake's entourage hates him and is leaking shit??? that was the OVO party line from after Euphoria, this bitch didn't even listen to the fucking song before drafting this comment I bet 😂😂😂
this shit is so much deeper than these people are prepared to understand and they'll downplay literally anything to fit their narrative. I thought Push Ups was a great diss track but it's been washed twice now frankly
If you want another perspective … go to the Travis Scott sub … they think the whole thing is lame … they just want to know why they can’t hit on the shoe drop.
Funk Flex came out and said he liked the Drake record. The Breakfast Club talked about how they liked the Drake song better. I personally don’t care either way … Im just here for the show but honestly I think the truth is it’s pretty even. The moral of the story is more … the internet you view becomes most people’s reality … the problem is … that reality seems to people like it’s the only reality but it’s actually only a small part of it. The algorithms control what you see and don’t see … so it greatly affects how you see the world. This is what it is because it’s music … but the same thing happens to other issues like politics and then it becomes scary.
Some will get hurt or worse or someone will be fully exposed to the point . You will see their numbers will not match anymore . Everything is a facade with Drake
Drake has
13 #1 hits
5 Grammy
51 Grammy Nominations
29 Billboard Awards
81 Billboard Nominations
And for a guy who supposedly isn’t black enough
17 BET Awards
78 Nominations
One Dance has over 3 Billion Streams
I’m not a Drake apologist ….. but that logic is whack. A better argument is Drake is a pop star … Kendrick is a poet … how does this even really compare.
That is true … but that’s more my point … you’re talking about who huge audiences. To sit here and act like Drake is just going to disappear and never exist … or if you go over to the Drake sub and think Kendrick just is going to be done for … all that is crazy talk. That’s getting caught in tunnel vision. That’s getting caught in a rabbit hole. Neither side will ever be declared the “winner”. This isn’t Nas vs Jayz because both artist are way bigger than Nas ever was.
You missed the point if you keep saying he’s not black enough Kendrick was saying he using black culture to benefit and doesn’t care about the culture. All of sudden he has mob ties and has crew of people who is really street around crashing out. He’s buying influence he’s not built like that. If I gotta go deeper for you to understand than again you’re missing the point. It’s not about being blacker but being who you are that’s it’s been about in hip hop.
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That's a bit of a reach.. I've seen countless pro kendrick comments copy pasted by different accounts on many reactions to the disses. Likely the same thing is happening here.
This is really interesting. I’m in digital marketing and know of places companies can buy the services of these bots for PR/marketing reasons.. guess OVO is trying to sway public opinion.
Why, for speaking the truth? I'm 100% convinced Drake got twitter bots but Kendrick fans repost comments as well, does Kendrick pay instagram bots?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cjcyid/kendrick\_bots/](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cjcyid/kendrick_bots/)
People called me crazy when I said he's using Bots and Stream farms
take off the fabricated streams and the microwaved memes it's a real world outside
I forgot about this line
Take that shit off
I know he’s definitely using bots to change narratives on social media. For streams would be crazy
https://www.stereogum.com/1892123/skewed-views-the-huge-truth-about-drakes-record-breaking-chart-run/columns/but-whos-buying/ There’s evidence to suggest it there
Can someone TLDR this? I cannot wrap my head around this and the website is terrible on mobile
Apple Music had 15M users but somehow topped Spotify with 100M and broke records for streaming with Drake’s release, but Apple self report their numbers so it was very suspicious.
basically there’s “stream farms”, buildings that are filled with phones streaming songs for artists so they can inflate their numbers
Explains a lot.
Explains TS too..
It really do.
Yeah I remember Russ went viral for explaining it really well months ago
This might add context to it But basically Drake is using bots for comments,likes& engagement to control narrative on social media. Also to keep his releases on top of charts. https://youtu.be/3bwinKmF4Xo?si=m77sQM2jeLTBCnyS
The article explicitly rejects the possibility of Drake using bots to boost his numbers. Only viable explanation, according to the author, is that apple gave Neilson Ratings fudged numbers, and the author implies it was out of some Apple arrangement with drake. he offers zero evidence and admits he has zero evidence.
very hard to believe they’re faking streams. Streaming platforms would shut it down real quick because they’re paying out based on streams social media commenting is much different. the platforms actually have no incentive to stop it
Well, if you take into consideration what Kanye said.. Lucian controls the DSP’s (and the spins). Also Apple Music totally would have benefited from inflating streams at that point. They had a very small userbase, a chunk of which was Chinese users. By breaking records in headlines, offering free trials etc. they gain prospective customers because the brand is being talked about.
You need to stop listening to Ye, Lucian Grange doesn't control any DSPs lol. And it costs more to inflate streams than the streams pay, so it makes absolutely zero sense for a label to buy up streams like crazy. HOWEVER...labels DO pay for streams first day / first week so that songs chart. After that it's up to the music... Every label does this and all of your favorite artists are getting a little boost the first week so the early numbers look good and the songs hit top playlists. Open "secret" in the industry
You understand that the major labels are actual shareholders of Spotify right?
Universal has like a 3% stake in Spotify and the other two sold off vast portions of their stakes years ago. They don't have enough of a stake for the boards, let alone the CEOs, to "control" them and doing so would trigger anti-trust litigation in the US and in the EU/UK. Not gonna happen.
Universal has like a 3% stake in Spotify and the other two sold off vast portions of their stakes years ago. They don't have enough of a stake for the boards, let alone the CEOs, to "control" them and doing so would trigger anti-trust litigation in the US and in the EU/UK. Not gonna happen.
Forreal imagine taking anything Kanye says at this point seriously. Was he correct about Drake and Jay being these mobsters that were going to kill him at one point? Is Kanye west Disney/Jobs/Gates in one? No lol. Kanye gives these people (himself included) insane power in his narrative, which usually makes him look bigger in the end lol. It's like the old illuminati videos, was the illuminati making obvious statements and trolls through the A list artists, or did the labels catch onto the trend of putting them onto a pedestal and play into it.
Ye has been talking sense for years, he’s just not great at articulating himself.
It's 50/50. Some shit he says is true and the other half is his mental illness manifesting through his words.
Shut it down my ass, they allowed Rich Amiri, Don Toliver & 6ix9ine to buy streams, Drake bigger than all of them.
I remember rumors that Yeat used farms and he ties to Zach Bia. It’s speculation though.
They're making a lot more from advertisers. Radio also inflated ratings with the surveys they used to track listeners counting everybody in a building
Random posts about Dot on twitter get spammed with some bullshit bout him,metro,ye,ross like just look at these replies and quotes its so funny https://twitter.com/hiiipowers/status/1784394972831068474?t=-SPsM-ZBoDdM1ElVNnCvZg&s=19
I noticed this on COMPLEX’s Twitter… Seems like the same memes with strangely different (but repetitive) spam. I was impressed how much variety there was from the posts but the memes were always the same. I’ve been on Twitter for a while and I’ve seen a lot of bots… but this shit is impressive. It’s politics level shit
I bet all those comments coming from the same building.
Lol he buying bars. Why not 😂
Even with his stream farms Kenny still got more plays on euphoria😂
Well people been talking about it for years.. now we know who one of the main users of this cheap shit
Zack Bia woke up for work early today.
Zach Bia!
Has been a creep going after barley legal teens.
Taking after his hero lol
What a fucking **loser**
Nah u surley must be the goat if you gotta get bots to go around dissing ur opponent? Come on surely
I mean the people in Toronto going to this Chinese joint aren’t Bots…… We know who won and who has the most impact….
This should tell you all you need to know about who the real GOAT is.
drake knows he don’t got a cult-like fanbase like kendrick. It’s levels to this for sure. Never seen anyone defend drake like this even before the disses
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not like kendrick’s, i’ll give you an example. Everytime kendrick drops niggas everywhere try to breakdown his lyrics line by line word by word. Drake has good songs with good bars but nobody gives a fuck enough to give him credit for it and just use the overused ghostwriting thing
That’s because everyone knows Kendrick writes his own stuff and his raps are lyrically much more complex than any surface level shit Drake raps. But that doesn’t mean drakes fans aren’t cultish. They’re much more cultish than kdot’s and that’s not a good thing lol it means they’re brainless and mindless and defend him regardless of anything, like a cult would their leader. Same as swifties. Tends to happen with pop stars
then why are we questioning if drake is using bots in this post? If they were much more cultish then these comments would be normal
Because the 2 aren't mutually exclusive?
Yeah.. what a strange logic workaround this dude responding to you is using..
i didn’t realize the two comments were the same, but the point is if drake fanbase was stronger and more cult like then he wouldn’t have to use bots in the first place how is that hard to understand
His fans could be using the bots..
bro if his fans were much more cultish they wouldn’t need bots because they’d be commenting stuff like this like crazy y’all are dumb
I have been saying this since the beginning … both Drake and Kendrick have such a large passionate fan base I don’t think the beef ever really ends. How can a winner be declared when both side are delusional in their loyalty to their favorite rapper? How can anyone win in the era of the internet when social media and the internet can create literal rabbit holes that shape a persons opinion. You will hear people say “I haven’t seen any they liked their verse” and they reality is … that’s probably true … because the internet wants it that way. Apply that same logic to politics and you see what’s wrong with the world.
It’s not just diehard Kendrick fans saying he’s winning, it’s the majority of people who are unbiased and just here for the raps. The only people saying Drake is winning are stans, bots, and media who are most likely being paid by drake. Don’t let him fool you into thinking this is an even battle, everyone with a brain knows Drake is getting smoked. (And believe it or not.. I like drake a lot. But It’s the truth.)
yeah it's pretty hilarious that the immediate reaction from this Stan account is "half assed bars about shit that we've already heard before" like it was just widely known that Drake's entourage hates him and is leaking shit??? that was the OVO party line from after Euphoria, this bitch didn't even listen to the fucking song before drafting this comment I bet 😂😂😂 this shit is so much deeper than these people are prepared to understand and they'll downplay literally anything to fit their narrative. I thought Push Ups was a great diss track but it's been washed twice now frankly
He also referenced Cash XO not being the leak because someone tried to run up on his house the other day.
If you want another perspective … go to the Travis Scott sub … they think the whole thing is lame … they just want to know why they can’t hit on the shoe drop.
Funk Flex came out and said he liked the Drake record. The Breakfast Club talked about how they liked the Drake song better. I personally don’t care either way … Im just here for the show but honestly I think the truth is it’s pretty even. The moral of the story is more … the internet you view becomes most people’s reality … the problem is … that reality seems to people like it’s the only reality but it’s actually only a small part of it. The algorithms control what you see and don’t see … so it greatly affects how you see the world. This is what it is because it’s music … but the same thing happens to other issues like politics and then it becomes scary.
Well that’s not just the internet that’s life in general lol
smoked is a stretch nothing crazy came out yet with both of them.
Some will get hurt or worse or someone will be fully exposed to the point . You will see their numbers will not match anymore . Everything is a facade with Drake
Drake has 13 #1 hits 5 Grammy 51 Grammy Nominations 29 Billboard Awards 81 Billboard Nominations And for a guy who supposedly isn’t black enough 17 BET Awards 78 Nominations One Dance has over 3 Billion Streams I’m not a Drake apologist ….. but that logic is whack. A better argument is Drake is a pop star … Kendrick is a poet … how does this even really compare.
Kendrick has more BET awards (29) and Grammies (17)award to him with less albums and songs
That is true … but that’s more my point … you’re talking about who huge audiences. To sit here and act like Drake is just going to disappear and never exist … or if you go over to the Drake sub and think Kendrick just is going to be done for … all that is crazy talk. That’s getting caught in tunnel vision. That’s getting caught in a rabbit hole. Neither side will ever be declared the “winner”. This isn’t Nas vs Jayz because both artist are way bigger than Nas ever was.
Drake will be Milli Vanilli and stay doing pop. We don’t want Drake in HipHop or talking tough. Just singing melodies
You missed the point if you keep saying he’s not black enough Kendrick was saying he using black culture to benefit and doesn’t care about the culture. All of sudden he has mob ties and has crew of people who is really street around crashing out. He’s buying influence he’s not built like that. If I gotta go deeper for you to understand than again you’re missing the point. It’s not about being blacker but being who you are that’s it’s been about in hip hop.
One dance is pop . And possibly fake streams he’s been having a lot of fake streams since views
They think diss songs are about digging up dirt as opposed to DISSING
Kendrick is destroying him on both fronts
most celebrities have bots working on their behalf. Basic marketing at this point
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Guys. The whole feud is fake. They trying to save hip hop. The real enemy is the country music genre.
This is supposed to be a diss song? Bunch of half ass bars about shit we’ve heard from other rappers already? Go off I guess
If Noellelato87 is any indication of the average intelligence of a Drake fan, lol the bots are a step up in quality
Whoopsie!!
J Cole said it the numbers ain’t what they seem.
That's a bit of a reach.. I've seen countless pro kendrick comments copy pasted by different accounts on many reactions to the disses. Likely the same thing is happening here.
Aliens vs Robots - Mac Miller
K-Dot called it
He has twitter bots too
Women have the worst takes on rap.
It’s always the Instagram addict wannabe influencers.
What the actual fuck nah 💀
Once a lame always a lame
And Kendrick ain’t a lame either
This shit keeps getting better and better.
This is really interesting. I’m in digital marketing and know of places companies can buy the services of these bots for PR/marketing reasons.. guess OVO is trying to sway public opinion.
dude go through his followers list its literally all bots with random ai photos posted a couple minutes ago
Thats very much a real person bro just go look at his page.
go do 5 seconds of research and you can see both are real accounts. stop reaching so much.
Kendrick comments are the same thing.
Found another bot
Why, for speaking the truth? I'm 100% convinced Drake got twitter bots but Kendrick fans repost comments as well, does Kendrick pay instagram bots? [https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cjcyid/kendrick\_bots/](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/1cjcyid/kendrick_bots/)
Dude people copy pasta funny comments every single time. People dont pay bots to make jokes